It's a well-known fact that a number of Vivid DVDs are edited from their VHS original releases. Reasons people give for that are primarily to make room for their DVD extras or because once a title goes to catalog (i.e. is not a new release), it's re-edited to fit on less costly VHS tapes. Since they'd already re-edited a lot of masters before DVD became popular, there was not a lot of motivation to go back and re-edit. Remember, Vivid has hundreds, if not thousands, of movies and videos in its catalog.

I've given up a long time ago trying to understand Vivid. They are satisfied with their product, and there's too much porn out there for me to spend time asking why.

Finally, from a moderator's standpoint, please avoid the use of inflammatory subjects for threads. It's not necessary and only serves to become a magnet for a moderator.

- Saki

Edited by - saki on 11/26/2002 4:26:47 PM

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In other words, why mess with success? I agree most of their films don't appeal to me...but lets be honest, nine times out of ten, your first exposure to porn is probably going to be a film from Vivid.

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Now that mommy's not around. . ."

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1) First and foremost, Vivid makes a LOT of money. It is a well run business that has a very strong niche. They have monopolized the market within their niche. Hardly what I would consider a crap move.

2) They have signed what may arguably be the strongest stable of performers in porno today. Hardly a crap move.

3) They are extremely prolific in their production output. Hardly what I would perceive from a crap studio.

4) Their features obviously use modern cameras, lights, sets, wardrobes, locales... certainly not crap ingredients.

So, why the hullaballoo? Answer, because Vivid doesn't do the hardcore thing that so many of us love. OK, that's their perogative... just like it is your perogative to take your dollars elsewhere. But does that make them crap? I don't think so!

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I only say "suckered" because there they were on a store shelf, it was after I turned 18, and I thought what the hell, buy one. Of course I'd been reading Hustler for a couple years proir, but had yet to purchase an adult film... so I jumped at a couple of their VHS.

While I can't say that they were "satisfying", they did quench a thirst to see porn, and to legally possess it. Well they served their purpose.

I can't really be a judge of Vivid's DVDs, I can go by what a lot of people say, which is usually nothing good, or spectacular.

I can say that I've been interested in buying a few Vivid DVDs, but seeing is how they seem to be a "mess", I haven't yet.

But ya gotta admit, some of those covers, if not all, are HOT!

---BIGmike, going and going and going since MCMLXXX---

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Now if I were to see a porno title with a babe, especially a babe who likes Vivid stuff, I would happily watch Vivid videos.

Ron

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98% of the people reading this have heard every criticism possible about 'green' (ok, Vivid) a thousand times before. I dunno how you guys keep nourishing your rage but I'm very impressed that there is so little else wrong with your lives that complaining about a company that produces movies of gorgeous women having sex is so high on your list of things to do.

Every now and then things become clear.

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Edited by - manetho71 on 11/27/2002 4:03:48 AM

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My biggst problem with Vivid right now is the authoring on their DVDs, which from the last couple I've seen, does bring the word "crap" to mind. I think the last two or three DVDs I watched of theirs kicked me back to the main menu in the middle of the feature (I think at the layer change), and you had to mess around with the chapter menu to try and get back into the feature. There were also a couple other problems that seemed just as juvenile.

I'm sorry, but Vivid is probably the studio that gets the majority of the mainstream attention (if not the top, then definitely in the top three). Like others have said, a good portion of people are introduced to porn through Vivid, and when they do a lousy job I think it brings people's opinion of the adult industry down even further. Heck, people still laugh at the adult industry's use of multiple angles because of the horrible job Vivid started with them despite most companies doing them right. Whether you like Vivid's movies or not, they're still one of the top companies out there. I just wish Vivid would realize it and start acting like it with their DVDs.

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i should be so lucky, lucky lucky lucky

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That having been said, I agree, as a porn company, the majority of Vivid's great work is done by their marketing department.

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Oh, and I'd like to wish the moderators and everyone else here a Happy Thanksgiving day. I just used the "comparison cart" and read a lot of reviews last night, and saved a bundle of cash! This site has been most helpful!

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For whatever reason, when DVD was introduced, Vivid released many of their older titles using the "catalog" version of the movie rather than the original version (many people assume that it was so Vivid could fit all of the extra stuff on their discs (probably a marketing decision rather than a creative one).

The other thing that they did with virtually all movies that were shot before anyone ever considered DVD and multi-angles, is to edit scenes from the VHS version so they gave the illusion of multi-angle. What they were really doing was taking a sex postion that may have lasted 3 minutes on VHS and cutting it to a one minute scene that had 3 different angles. They weren't 3 synchronized shots, just 3 shots of the same scene.

Now that DVD is in their mind at the time of shooting a movie, this no longer happens.

Basically, if you are thinking about buying an older Vivid title, do some research. The title may be an edited version. If you are buying a new Vivid title, I wouldn't be concerned.

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