why most pornstars don't do private?

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badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 2:27PM I read that many pornstar don't do "privates". I don't understand this choice: if you pay the right fee, and you take a complete std test, where is the problem? there is a substancial difference between shooting for a production company and shooting for an independent collector? I think all the point is about to get paid to have sex with guy with a recent std test... if you are already famous, what do you care if the movie won't be edited and public? anyone in the business can explain me their pov about this? [Link]
magnyc Deactivated User 327 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 2:54PM They will at the end of the month when things are slow and they need to pay their rent! [Link]
Princess Chris Member 30 Posts 7/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 2:55PM I would think it's a safety issue, and not from an STD stand point. How do you know that the guy isn't some psycho that might hurt you or kill you. When you shoot with a company it's safer than being with one guy by himself in a hotel or something. Just my personal opinion though. [Link]
magnyc Deactivated User 327 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 2:59PM They will totally do it for the right price...trust me LOL [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 3:05PM Princess Chris wrote: I would think it's a safety issue, and not from an STD stand point. How do you know that the guy isn't some psycho that might hurt you or kill you. When you shoot with a company it's safer than being with one guy by himself in a hotel or something. Just my personal opinion though. Click to expand The girls book through agencies, so the safety issues you mentioned are not really a factor. [Link]

badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 3:56PM Princess Chris wrote: I would think it's a safety issue, and not from an STD stand point. How do you know that the guy isn't some psycho that might hurt you or kill you. When you shoot with a company it's safer than being with one guy by himself in a hotel or something. Just my personal opinion though. Click to expand the agency/agent should have a copy of guy's id document... however if she doesn't feel safe she could take a friend of her to the shooting place. [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 4:04PM magnyc wrote: They will totally do it for the right price...trust me LOL Click to expand But they say they don't do, no way. are you saying this for personal experience? [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 4:13PM Many do. Its called escorting. [Link]
Princess Chris Member 30 Posts 7/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 6:58PM There was nothing in the original post to indicate that you meant getting a girl for a private video through an agency. The way it was written made it sound like you are talking about contacting them directly. [Link]
magnyc Deactivated User 327 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 7:58PM Its the 30th of the month...they are out there needing to pay rent and will have sex with you...usually about $1,000-1,500 [Link]
ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 10:25PM crap, if someone wanted to pay me $1500, i'd let em sleep with me. not really. [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 11:01PM Maybe some of them can't be bought for any amount of money to pretend that they're enjoying sex wtih a guy who most likely will be gross, sweaty, has a small dick, and can't fuck worth a damn. I know not all guys who hire escorts fit that description, but some do. [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 11:04PM Yet another prostitution thread from yet another brand new account . . . [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 3:04AM tricia_devereaux wrote: Maybe some of them can't be bought for any amount of money to pretend that they're enjoying sex wtih a guy who most likely will be gross, sweaty, has a small dick, and can't fuck worth a damn. I know not all guys who hire escorts fit that description, but some do. Click to expand but they are doing their job for money, not to enjoy theirself with handsome Brad Pitt like guy. Ron Jeremy is beautiful? I don't think all guy who are not adult performer are ugly and with small dick, maybe they have big and woody dick but they have very successful job and are not interested to become an adult performer. [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 3:07AM Harri Patel wrote: Yet another prostitution thread from yet another brand new account . . . Click to expand prostitution? I'm not talking about guy who hire escort, but about guy who want to make a personal movie for their collection. Like Jules Jordan when he worked in a porn video store in Philadelphia and started to shooting himself. [Link]

Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 7:55AM tricia_devereaux wrote: ...a guy who most likely will be gross, sweaty, has a small dick, and can't fuck worth a damn. Click to expand You just described me perfectly. Sigh... [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 10:59AM It does seem to me if someone is going to shell out 1,500.00 clams for a hour of a pornstar's charms, most likely they will at least be showered before the big event. Having said that, I think the newbies to the formum should be encouraged to do a search here before they make yet another dumb topic, that they think no one has ever heard of before. This topic has been discussed 100's of times (even just last week). Hey lets get back to anal warts or Kurt Lockwood. [Link]
bhbest Member 37 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 10:34AM I have done privates as I am a collector and video is my hobby. I have several cameras including a new HD cam. While I am not a Brad Pitt type, I take care of myself, and straight, clean and act 200 percent professional when shooting and all my models enjoy working for me and have come back several times. However I still find it almost impossible to find hot new talent. There are several websites you can find talent from both agencies and where girls post independently. But I have found it still very difficult to find talent that is worth shelling out my hard earned cash. I have been able to book several models for shoots and they were great. But have had more flake on me or give me the run around than not. Most of the girls I have talked/ worked with are worried about safety and STD's and being scammed or not paid. Some want to bring boyfriends/agents or whatever. Since my shoots are private I hate this but understand that safety is key and just pass on the model unless she is bringing a female escort or coming alone. That's just my preference as I am doing this for fun and do not want any spectators that are attached to my talent. But my main problem is I am on the east coast and there are way to many creeps that try to scam the girls out here according to the stories some of these girls have told me. You wouldn't believe the shit that some of these girls have been through and some legitimate website directors out here have scammed and or tried to scam and abuse the girls. Basically this makes it nearly impossible to book talent as these girls out here get a million inquiries and most are bad ones from bad people. Once again this is according to the models I have worked and all of them have had several nightmare experiences with so called producers. So I feel the general synopsis is it is a much more risky out here than in porn valley. [Link]
phatbasey Senior Member 1390 Posts 1/05	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 1:03PM Clam Digger wrote: Hey lets get back to anal warts or Kurt Lockwood. Click to expand Very very very funny...goood one CD! [Link]
nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 1:06PM tricia_devereaux wrote: Maybe some of them can't be bought for any amount of money to pretend that they're enjoying sex wtih a guy who most likely will be gross, sweaty, has a small dick, and can't fuck worth a damn. Click to expand [Link]
noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 2:12PM How much for a blowjob? lol [Link]
KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 3:11PM ^Hmmm...bad boy... mod: extraneous quote removed - see the Forum Etiquette Edited by - hardware on 9/2/2007 5:14:58 PM [Link]
brewski Deactivated User 208 Posts 6/07	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 3:23PM If you eat herpes pussy, the outbreak will start in your gums and then drizzle from the edges of your lips and drip across your chin. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 5:44PM Here's my theory. When they do porn, the dudes are (more or less) professionals who will move on after they fuck. It's just another day at the office for both of them. Sometimes fans get obsessed with one particular star. They send them creepy emails and stalk them and harass them. Now imagine that you're a female porn star. Are you going to want to take a chance that this guy could be that creep who's been sending those weird messages? Some of them do escort, I gather. But I can understand why they'd be a little more wary about it than doing a guy in a more professional setting. [Link]
noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 6:39PM KatarinaKat wrote: Hmmm...bad boy... Click to expand Ok then, how much for a handjob? lol [Link]

badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 6:53PM @bhbest Did you shoot also top performer in porn valley, I mean someone like Aurora Snow or Bree Olson? If yes, how much did you pay them? There are some agents that don't reply you at all if you say them you are a private collector... When I have shot some model in East Europe, I paid them and showed them my STD test before shooting, but they weren't big name in porn biz. Could you post these websites where you can find agencies and independent talents? mod: extraneous quote removed - see the Forum Etiquette Edited by - hardware on 9/2/2007 8:12:59 PM [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 7:03PM @RandomPrecision: I understand your pov, maybe this is the point. They fear to find a guy who is gross, sweaty, with a small dick and who is also a psycho. could any talent female in the business confirm this theory, or demolish it? when you go to porn expo in Las Vegas or elsewhere, and you meet your fans, they seem you gross, sweaty, or psycho? Edited by - hardware on 9/2/2007 8:14:05 PM [Link]
KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 7:04PM noahped wrote: Ok then, how much for a handjob? lol Click to expand For you babe...I will give you one while you shoot my content! lol...if we can ever match our schedules Jk Now watch, this will end up in Lukeisback.com: "Katarina Kat gives free handjobs" lol...Hey, any publicity is good publicity! well most of the time at least...right? XOXO Katarina Kat mod: snipped the nested quote Edited by - hardware on 9/2/2007 8:14:44 PM [Link]
noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02	Posted - Sep 2 2007 : 7:38PM It's going down next month!! I'll be there the one week you are free!! haha you are too kind, after shooting some great content with you I'm probably gonna need a handjob... [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 10:53AM @ KatarinaKat: do you do privates? [Link]
bhbest Member 37 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 2:21PM @ badmotherfucker Some of the girls I have worked with did spend time on the west coast working for agencies for a while but all came back to their hometowns and all are retired from the biz as we speak. I still talk to 2 of them and I still work with them once in a blue moon. One in particular likes the easy extra cash plus we get along great and are good friends. Unfortunately girls like Bree Olsen and Aurora I would have to fly out here and the costs would be ridiculous. I could be convinced to pay that though I think with Bree and even Aurora. If I could shoot with anybody though Bree is at the very top of my wish list. Yes you definitely are right about agents and models not replying to private collectors. The safety thing once again plays big there so it is understandable [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 2:30PM So what if decide to start my own website and I need material for the launch. Can I hire girls and film it and would that be considered a private? [Link]
kara bare Shawna Lenee 57 Posts 12/05	Posted - Sep 3 2007 : 10:48PM The reason I don't do privates, is it won't benefit my career. I would only be doing it for the money. I enjoy making porn, it is my passion. If I do something just because I need money, it wouldn't be fun to be and the passion would be lost. In the future, my decision may change. After I make each scene, I hope to have a lot of promotion and great reviews. I don't want to be sitting around in a vault somewhere. Magnyc says they will do it for the right price- Not all of us. That's why us smart whores save our money, so at the end of the month, the rent is paid without worries! mod: extraneous quote removed - see the Forum Etiquette Edited by - hardware on 9/4/2007 12:09:47 AM [Link]
Gabriela Rossi Member 29 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 12:48AM Kara Bare says "The reason I don't do privates, is it won't benefit my career. I would only be doing it for the money. I enjoy making porn, it is my passion. If I do something just because I need money, it wouldn't be fun to be and the passion would be lost. In the future, my decision may change. After I make each scene, I hope to have a lot of promotion and great reviews. I don't want to be sitting around in a vault somewhere. Magnyc says they will do it for the right price- Not all of us. That's why us smart whores save our money, so at the end of the month, the rent is paid without worries!" And I completely agree with her. Mr. Badmotherf---er, please keep in mind that A. asking an adult performer for a "private performance" is the most yawn inducing of all pickup lines and B. we are experts in putting on a performance and are not in the business of receiving a salary in exchange for satisfying a customer's every whim. For that, I suggest you pay a trip to the world-famous Bunny Ranch. The ladies there are lovely, hard-working and quite fabulous. [Link]
saratoga120 Senior Member 1404 Posts 5/05	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 1:33AM Don't lose the glasses. You don't have to wear them all the time, but please don't lose them. [Link]

Uncle Fester Deactivated User I rock, therefore I am! 131 Posts 6/07	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 1:55AM Basically, it sounds like a girl won't do a private scene because then she will be getting paid to have sex like a prostitute, but if it's for a company, it's a career. [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 2:09AM @ Kara & Gabriela Sorry but I don't understand your pov. You say that you love making porn, but making porn isn't to get paid to have sex in front of camera? privates are the same thing, except that the movie will not go in the stores and internet, but will remain in guy's collection. I understand the safety problem, but not career problem: you pornstar accept to work also for small productions, not all your movie are reviewed, most of them are totally forgotten after few months. About bunny ranch, many of you performers go there when you are over 30s and have little schedule. But I want a fresh and young pornstar to shoot my own movie, not over 30 yo ex pornstar. [Link]
Faceblaster Member 390 Posts 5/04	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 2:12AM Kara, where can we see you dance? Do you list your club appearances somewhere? [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 12:30PM I suggest you pay a trip to the world-famous Bunny Ranch. The ladies there are lovely, hard-working and quite fabulous. Click to expand The prices they charge over there makes me think they all have golden pussies they're selling..... [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 1:08PM I think some people are underestimating just how undesirable some potential 'clients' can be. I used to have guys ask me to do privates, and although a few of them were cute and possibly even date-worthy (without money attached), a lot of them were far from attractive, charismatic, or sexually appealing. And yea, a lot of guys who hire escorts are really kinky in unappealing ways. Whereas some of the experiences might end up being ok, believe it or not, there are still porn girls who wouldn't put a price on possibly having one of the 'other' experiences. badmotherfucker - just out of curiosity... do you sign a non-release contract so that the girl knows you won't sell the scene? [Link]
Uncle Fester Deactivated User I rock, therefore I am! 131 Posts 6/07	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 1:23PM Tricia, while some of the potential clients might be considered "undesireable" in the private sector, it's not like some of the current working actors are prizes either. [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 2:17PM tricia_devereaux wrote: badmotherfucker - just out of curiosity... do you sign a non-release contract so that the girl knows you won't sell the scene? Click to expand No I don't sign a non-release: I simply don't ask model to sign a release, so I can't sell my scenes because I don't have the realeses, and I think model knows it. However girls in Europe don't seem interested if I will sell the scene or not. [Link]
kara bare Shawna Lenee 57 Posts 12/05	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 2:52PM badmotherfucker wrote: @ Kara & Gabriela Sorry but I don't understand your pov. You say that you love making porn, but making porn isn't to get paid to have sex in front of camera? privates are the same thing, except that the movie will not go in the stores and internet, but will remain in guy's collection. I understand the safety problem, but not career problem: you pornstar accept to work also for small productions, not all your movie are reviewed, most of them are totally forgotten after few months. About bunny ranch, many of you performers go there when you are over 30s and have little schedule. But I want a fresh and young pornstar to shoot my own movie, not over 30 yo ex pornstar. Click to expand Actually, that is where you are wrong. Everyone has different opinions of course. But they are different, it is NOT the same thing and that is why you don't understand us. When making a movie, we think about how it looks to the viewer- my job is to please them through the camera. My job is to NOT let people forget who I am. Hopefully I did a good enough scene for people to remember that for at least a short while. If you forget me- I did a horrible job. Not all my movies are reviewed, you are correct. But I am sure someone out there bought it and had her or her own thoughts about my scene. Privates are only for money, and they doesn't satisfy me. Now, making guys who are watching me on his big screen TV nut all over the place from my performance- that satisfies me :) But again, every porn star and porn watcher has their own opinions. [Link]
kara bare Shawna Lenee 57 Posts 12/05	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 2:54PM Faceblaster wrote: Kara, where can we see you dance? Do you list your club appearances somewhere? Click to expand I dance at Diamond Men's Club West in Ohio when I am at home. :) I will be posting a schedule on Myspace soon! [Link]
badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 5:31PM @ Kara I respect your opinions. only one question: if someone contact you saying he is not a pro director, but he wants to open his own pay-site (where all people could appreciate your video) so he need material for the launch, would you accept to shoot with him, or would you consider him a private collector yet? just curious Edited by - badmotherfucker on 9/4/2007 5:32:59 PM [Link]
wolf69 Member My compass is pointing West. 830 Posts 5/04	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 5:51PM kara bare wrote: Now, making guys who are watching me on his big screen TV nut all over the place from my performance- that satisfies me :) Click to expand Oh god, I love you Kara! [Link]
KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 7:00PM badmotherfucker wrote: @ KatarinaKat: do you do privates? Click to expand Yeap, on the 30th and 31st only though...lol...just joking!...I do on the 15th as well... [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 7:48PM Uncle Fester wrote: Tricia, while some of the potential clients might be considered "undesireable" in the private sector, it's not like some of the current working actors are prizes either. Click to expand I agree. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with girls who do escort. Someone was just asking the difference between porn and a private for a porn girl, and I was offering one possible explanation. [Link]
BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 8:15PM tricia_devereaux wrote: Maybe some of them can't be bought for any amount of money to pretend that they're enjoying sex wtih a guy who most likely will be gross, sweaty, has a small dick, and can't fuck worth a damn... Click to expand TRICIA - You promised you'd never tell. I gave you $5000 fuckin' dollars, and you SWORE you would never tell. And I even paid for the disinfecting and delousing that you demanded, and bought the new outfit that you threw a fit for, cuz you wouldn't put back on your stuff that came in contact with me in the room. You burned your clothes right there in front of me. And you still come in here and dime me out. Damn, ain't anybody's WORD good anymore?! Now I gotta move to another country and take on another fuckin' new identity. BSD [Link]
noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 8:20PM KatarinaKat wrote: I do on the 15th ... Click to expand I guess I'll have to photoshoot you on Oct. 15th then lol mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 9/5/2007 12:46:37 AM [Link]
ipop Senior Member 1115 Posts 1/06	Posted - Sep 4 2007 : 11:57PM It seems like Tricia has a pretty low opinion of the average porn viewer. I'm sure there are some disgusting perverts out there, but I'm guessing most porn viewers are average men who shower and take care of themselves and view porn to satisfy their sexual urges since their wives or responsibilities don't allow them to be promiscuous like a college kid... I'm guessing that 99% of porn viewers aren't as disgusting as Ed Powers, and look at all the hotties he has booked. [Link]