I'm a little biased against guys who think that every porn girl simply has a price.
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| tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00 |  Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 12:15AMI'm a little biased against guys who think that every porn girl simply has a price. [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 3:02AM there are companies that offer many money to do creampies, but some girl choose to don't do it for any price. in this sense I agree not every porn girl has a price. [Link] |
| KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 5:53AM [/quote] For you..anytime of the month babe...lol...and you get a discount for being awesome! XOXO Katarina Kat [Link] |
| kara bare Shawna Lenee 57 Posts 12/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 10:07AM [Link] |
| T0201 Deactivated User 167 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 12:59PM With one of the only real differences being that when working on camera everyone is aware of it (friends, family, and the rest of the world) forever which impacts one's ability to integrate back into the mainstream world, and if working privately few are aware of it, which doesn't really hamper one's ability to integrate back into the mainstream. mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 9/5/2007 5:29:58 PM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 1:31PM [Link] |
| kara bare Shawna Lenee 57 Posts 12/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 1:40PM Edited by - hardware on 9/5/2007 5:28:32 PM [Link] |
| popdog Member 865 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 1:49PM [Link] |
| tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 5:27PM sweetie... I didn't tell them that it was you or not. But sigh... now they know about us. You KNOW a couple of those points don't apply to you. You're always so insecure about yourself, I don't know what to do with you. ;) [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8011 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Sep 5 2007 : 6:43PM [Link] |
| debella56 Member 24 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 7 2007 : 11:52AM [Link] |
| gingerlee Member 301 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Sep 7 2007 : 9:02PM The whole 'everybody has a price' thing is usually thrown up at me as well, so I have just started writing back that I'll do it if they pay me 500K in cash, because most guys just keep pushing for a 'estimate' of what it would take to get me to even consider their request. They usually leave me alone after that, but I'm totally screwed if somebody actually has the ability to pony up that money. [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 5:36AM you have not explained the reason why you don't do privates [Link] |
| T0201 Deactivated User 167 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 7:58AM [Link] |
| Le Duc de Blangis Member Ecce Lex 396 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 8:40AM this thread is really funny. full of hypocrisy. pornstar, escort, pornstar, escort... possibly, the only difference is that pornstars satisfy their needs of fame. because women are histrionics. really funny. [Link] |
| gingerlee Member 301 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 10:14AM So...yeah, thanks, but no thanks. If I wanted to do private encounters I would take my ass to the Bunny Ranch and chill with the girls there. [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 11:11AM Le Duc - can you read? or are you just using this as an opportunity to insult women. Women are not all histrionics. The performers have made clear here they are building careers. They have explained that privates don't help their career (eg increase their performance rate.) [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 1:26PM @ Gingerlee thanks for your explanation. so helping pornstar career means to increase performing rate. so your goal is to increase rate, that is to earn more money. now I understand why some pornstar making privares ask up to 3 times their standard performance rate: their goal is to increase their rate doing privates. Edited by - badmotherfucker on 9/8/2007 1:30:51 PM Edited by - badmotherfucker on 9/8/2007 1:48:58 PM [Link] |
| kara bare Shawna Lenee 57 Posts 12/05 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 3:24PM Give it a rest. mod: extraneous quote removed Edited by - hardware on 9/8/2007 3:44:45 PM [Link] |
| KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 4:21PM I do understand your curiosity as well as a lot of the members that feel that it's a bit hypocritical when a Porn Star makes it a point to NOT do privates... ...I agree with the feeling sometimes. The problem is that some of the girls feel the need to go into lengthy explanations to why they don't when in reality all they need to say is: "because I just DON'T FUCKING WANT TO" (Isn't that simple and to the point?) ...bottom line is, to a lot of the girls, it's personal and some don't want to be public about it. It would be like me asking you if you finger your booty whole right before you cum, or how many times do you shake your pipi after you pee...the answer is "non of my business", right? So just be happy with the ones that do...there are websites that tell you who does and who doesn't...if you're looking for private then just go there...No offense intended to anyone, just my cheap two cents...(and I'm bored sitting in my hotel room) XOXO Katarina Kat [Link] |
| dvd4dvd Deactivated User 292 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 4:39PM you never know. the guy paying might be some kind a nutso or psycho. There's a big difference between the average porn viewer and some psycho. Then there's the STD issue. how the hell are you suppose to know for sure that this guy who's gonna be doing the poking is not a walking time bomb, or worse has a life threatning disease that will make her a gonner? If you mean private as in "go for a date, and score at the end", well that requires the right attitude, style, character, moves and so forth. Now if you mean private as in a movie shoot as I used to do, then that requires contracts, registered and documented medical screenings, filed scene locations, artists,people that will be participating, various legalities, and finally financial security, financial background such as an advance, an assurance of payment. remember that the difference between porn stars and some mary jane, is that they do this for a living and need to have assurance that everything is legal and safe, with no loses. [Link] |
| nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 5:30PM Edited by - hardware on 9/8/2007 9:08:36 PM [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 6:45PM I know who do privates and who doesn't, here I'm trying to understand WHY, because it seem a quite hypocritical behaviour. we are human beings, not animals, so we are curious and we like to understand reasons behind people behaviour, and to debate around it in forums. So far I understood there are 2 main reasons: 1) safety problem 2) tricia deveraux point: average porn viewer would be fat, sweaty and with small dick, a ugly guy. [Link] |
| Le Duc de Blangis Member Ecce Lex 396 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 7:14PM it's my favorite hobby. the porn "career" without escorting is a "good" career of course. of course. of course. of course. de Blangis. ps: I can not read. I am a stupid french asshole. [Link] |
| KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 7:53PM I understand babe...the point I was trying to make too was that everyone has different reasons. Not every girl that doesn't escort falls under the same category of reasoning... The general reasons, everyone knows...such as safety, health, and very unappealing customers...etc. Other than that it varies from girl to girl, so you might want to do a poll rather than an open general topic to satisfy your curiosity. Because this is a topic where everyone has a different POV. XOXO Katarina Kat Edited by - hardware on 9/8/2007 9:09:45 PM [Link] |
| noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 7:55PM [Link] |
| KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 8:01PM ...you just love me...period!...and I love you back! We have a date in Oct, right? Shoot for handjob...got it! XOXO Katarina Kat [Link] |
| KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 8:07PM XOXO Katarina Kat [Link] |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 8:08PM [Link] |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 8:09PM [Link] |
| noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 8:50PM And yes we are set for Oct, I'm soooo glad you give handjobs on the first date!  I'll earn my keep though, my camera's been ready.  [Link] |
| twilly Member 9 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 9:00PM "The day prostitutes look like Julia Roberts is the day I don't have a bank account left." I did a recent check of "services" in my area. 99% of them looked like they could lose a few hundred pounds and still look like they could drive a Freightliner to Kansas and kick the shit out of somebody in a barfight. The only one that looked half decent was REALLY expensive. Prostitutes look like shit.... Pornstars don't. The male actors they're with are also a fair example of the human race - not exactly a lot of beerbellies in porn you have to admit. Same deal with strippers.... does it occur? (services) - I'm sure it does, but it's rare. [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 9:13PM [Link] |
| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 9:29PM [Link] |
| nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 9:31PM [Link] |
| Jackstah Member 531 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 10:57PM mod: nested quote removed Edited by - hardware on 9/9/2007 3:40:36 AM [Link] |
| T0201 Deactivated User 167 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 3:40AM After all I'm sure for most women in the industry, including the ones who don't make themselves available, it's true that they frequently have to do scenes with guys they don't personally like. Edited by - hardware on 9/9/2007 4:18:16 AM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 4:18AM [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 4:19AM You are right, as Rocco Siffredi said the true professional performer should be ready to have sex with any partner, also a 70 y.o. woman/man (Rocco did many granny-movies, that guy is a sex-machine!). He/she should not be concerned with partner appearance. I think that if 66% performers escort, many other do it but they don't say it. However it would not be difficult, if you have some money, to shoot a performer who don't do privates: 1) with 500$ you pay a webmaster and create your own porn website 2) with 5000$ you buy a pro camera, for example sony hdr-fx7e, and lights. you can also rent it for 200$/day 3) for free you take a friend who will be cameraman and assistant 4) for 300$/day you rent an apartment or a hotel room as location 5) 50-100$ for full STD test Now you are a "pro" producer/director, and with 1000-3000$ you can hire every porn girl for a gonzo scene, + 20% to her agent. Seymore Butt and Jules Jordan started this way. all you need is money. [Link] |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 5:22AM How can you build a porn website with no porn? Using images and footage that is not your own can land you in a lawsuit. Also, in order to hire talent (through agency at least), one needs references or be a reputable photographer or company. [Link] |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 5:46AM [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 7:58AM [Link] |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 11:08AM |
| tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00 | Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 3:39PM So you live in Europe? It's been my experience that the porn girls there have a different attitude about stuff. Several of my friends here do privates, and all of them have different attitudes about it, and different ways that they go about it. I asked a couple of them, out of curiosity, and they both said that they wouldn't let someone tape something without a non-release contract. They wouldn't simply go the route of not signing a model release. About girls who do porn work with guys that they aren't attracted to physically, or with guys who struggle to be able to perform in the scene, then I agree that it wouldn't be a big deal to say yes to a private. When I was a stripper, I danced in private for a couple of guys that I was comfortable with. I drew the line before bjs or sex, etc, though. Mostly because I don't enjoy having to ACT like I'm having a good time during sex. I really like sex, and although a couple of the times I was approached for a private including sex, I thought that the guy looked like he could be good in bed, it just wasn't something I wanted to do. Because if he wasn't good, I knew that if he was paying really good money to fuck me, it was my job to act like I was enjoying it. And like I said, acting like the sex is good isn't enjoyable to me. Also, I love to give a guy pleasure, but if he's struggling, it makes me feel like I'm not doing my job well as a woman, so it would upset me on a personal level. I remember doing a peep show thing at a strip club where I worked, and I thought I was being REALLY sexy, but the guy was obviously having problems. It was so hard to not feel like it was MY fault... that somehow I just wasn't attractive enough or sexy enough for him. In porn, I never wanted to feel like I was getting paid to act like I was enjoying sex (although there were a couple times when it did include that). I felt like I was getting paid by the production company so that they could have a good scene to sell and make money off of. The times when I didn't enjoy the sex (and granted, some scenes were enjoyable but hard work just because of all the starts and stops and uncomfortable locations like the desert or the cold outdoors), it just wasn't as worth it to me, cause getting into porn for me was always more about the sex and a career than about the money. For me, being in a scene was a balance of enjoying myself (because I still believe on the other side of the camera that a scene where the people are really enjoying themselves rather than just asking is going to be SO much better) and of doing what it took to give a good scene for the movie. [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 3:33AM Well I think next time I'll shoot a private I will ask for the release firm, because who know, maybe tomorrow I will open my own porn website. You seem a very sensitive person, you didn't like to simulate pleasure, and you worried if you were able to satisfy your partner. But I have spoken with some European pornstar, and read many interview of american pornstar, and many of them said that they fake pleasure, that for them is only work and don't have real orgasms, also because continuous start and stop, unconfortable locations, etc. When I watch a porn and I see female that scream too much, that say always "yes yes fuck my ass yeah!", I know it's fake. Because it is not natural, is too much. Also, I can see pain in some female face when thay take big dick in their ass. Katia Kassin in this forum said that the female performer has to smile while she feel pain 'cause she is being fuck hard in her ass. On the other hand, all the male performer have no problem to get woody, but they take too much time to cum! when they have to cum, often they jerk off for many many time, while female performer is waiting with open mouth. I think when you are really excited you have not to to jerk off 5 minutes to cum. And apart some rare case as Peter North, Manuel Ferrara and few others, many of them have small load of cum... but when a man is really excited he has a big load. My female friends say that porn is made by men for men, so all is focused about man pleasure, and all scenes end with cum, but there is not attention about female pleasure. Maybe that is the reason why many girl think watching porn is boring. Not to say about sperm swallow and creampies. I don't think female performers are excited by swallowing big glass of cum, or let ten guy to cum into her ass. Let's say it, when they do this scenes, they are paid far more than usual, that's why they do it. Some performers say they are not in porn for money, but only for sex and career. But I wonder, career is not about money? The more you grow in career, the more you are paid in scenes and club appearances. I think they know they won't be famous like Jenna Jameson, there is only one Jenna every ten years. So there are new 18th entering the business, and all say this will be the new Jenna, and after 2 years, they take their money back to home and leave the business, like did Keri Sable and others. Only few become really famous, and porn viewers want always see new and fresh faces in movies. So I think speaking about career is speaking about scenes fee and club rate for dancing, that is money, as in many others jobs, included mine. Edited by - badmotherfucker on 9/10/2007 3:55:07 AM [Link] |
| gingerlee Member 301 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 12:53PM As far as the whole 'excited guys have big loads' comment, in my personal and work lives, guys can be really excited during sex and not have a gallon of cum (hypothetically speaking). How do you know if the guys without a ton of cum have already shot 2 other scenes that day, if they have been working every day for a month, etc.? Again, you don't know because you aren't there. Don't state your opinions as if they are facts, because unless I missed something you aren't actually in the porn biz, you are in the 'getting privates on camera' biz. Is it that hard for you to understand that there are girls that don't want to do privates, and there are a ton of reasons that they don't want to do them? Really, just drop it and be happy with the girls that agree to do it. [Link] |
| Faceblaster Member 390 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 1:52PM [Link] |
| badmotherfucker Deactivated User 25 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 2:09PM I read some interview of directors who said that many male performers have difficulties to cum, and everybody can see it when they jerk off for 5 minutes in front of the girl's face. On the other hand they have small difficult to get woody, because "to get woody on command" is their job, also using cialis or viagra. If you read top performers interview they say a good male performer have to get woody on command and have a big dick, otherwise everybody could do it. I read also performers interview, and they say that often they have to have sex with partners that they don't feel attractive. I am not in the business but I know that if you have good health cum load depends on frequency of ejaculations and how you are excited, every man knows it. don't be nervous, take easy, we are only chatting. Edited by - badmotherfucker on 9/10/2007 2:16:41 PM [Link] |
| mjdavis Member 40 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 7:22PM infact i know a ameature producer from the midwest who did a couple scenes pov with local midwest talent"' they were ugly" but they signed the model released he uploaded to clips4sale.com for free so now he had an official page reference. a month later he went to to vegas for the expo and did a scene with katrina cat and a pov scene with amber wild. and this kid is like 21 yrs and put this together with in like 2 months. he did upload the amber wild and katrina cat scenes he is pretty legit, but he has some scenes unrelaesed that he does not plan on releasing [Link] |
| KatarinaKat Member 250 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 10:12PM I am assuming you are talking about KatErina Kat from Vegas, right? or are you referring to me, KatArina Kat? Just wondering, because I don't know what you're talking about...lol...what's the name of the website babe? XOXO Katarina Kat mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 9/11/2007 3:58:25 AM [Link] |
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