None of the above, really. Believability isn't so much about stretch marks or farts, but more in how the sex itself plays out on screen. Like any situation, does what we're seeing make sense and have some basis in reality. In an action picture, does the hero bleed? In a love story, do the two hate-at-first-end-up-together actors have some sort of chemistry we can buy into (Billy Crystal/Meg Ryan yes, Keannu Reeves/Sandra Bullock no)? Do we believe a guy like Max Hardcore could score these hot young girls if he weren't paying them (we don't)? Is it believable that in a typical sexual situation males have giant cocks and pound women mercilessly? Or that women really love being fucked in the ass to the degree shown in most adult films?
A male masturbating can enter a fantasy world, in effect, where the porn is extending his desire to have sex in a way not normally available in his relationship (if he's even in one). This is why gonzo is so popular among males; what man wouldn't want to meet a hot young girl in a parking lot who'll jump on his cock in less than 60 seconds? In a manner of speaking, any story actually interferes with his primary goal of seeing the sex - as soon and raw as possible. In his porn world, the male "hero" doesn't have to buy dinner, tell her he loves her, change diapers, or bring home flowers. And he gets a seemingly endless supply of hotties to boot!
For the female, porn is usually working on the level of what IS possible with her husband or boyfriend. She wants to see couples who might like each other, with the enrichment of a sensible story as to WHY they're going to engage in sex. Without such logic driving the action forward, the act itself is impaired and unfulfilling. It's no wonder that many women immediately ask, "What, they just met in a parking lot and she's letting him fuck her in her ass? And she loves that giant thing pounding her like that? Huh?" You can't make a movie about two chicks who drive themselves over a cliff at the end without the two hours preceding the fateful plunge.
As we said before, we don't see much hope for anything other than the status quo for the foreseeable future, but we do see glimmers here and there. Wicked seems to be making a sincere effort to produce better adult fare, with Digital Playground's "Pirates" upping the bar and proving you can spend more than 10 grand and recoup your investment. Even stuff from Vivid seems to be getting better.
Edited by - Freddy and Eddy on 3/29/2007 6:54:30 PM
Sorry, Gal, we won't make the mistake again, promise.Just click on our avatar, but for the record it's www.freddyandeddy.com.We doubt it's "millions" of women. We suspect most women get their porn viewing from boyfriend's or husbands who bring it into the relationship rather than women actually making the effort to shop for it. We get quite a few women who buy titles from us to suprise their partners, so that's a good sign.We doubt it's any overt attraction, rather that he pays decently and on time and conducts himself in a professional manner that keeps them coming back. To be clear, we have nothing against the dude, except we can't stand his movies (well, at least the scenes he's in, anyway). As far as the domming thing goes, sure, anything's possible; you believe this and it makes your viewing experience better, which is awesome.
There was always a strong feminist movement, that had a PRO porn issue. There was a strong wave of feminism in Denmark and the Netherlands, that fought for the rights of porn actresses and the right to enjoy porn. They dont wanted, that porn was in mens hands only.
It was especially strong in Scandinavia and the Netherlands, but it was and is even existing in the USA or UK. I dont want to list all names and books from US and UK pro-porn feminists. ( Isnt Nadine Strossen the president of ACLU now ? She was also a pro-porn feminist )
The reason why women are ignoring/rejecting/hating porn are so diverse. Most are based in the sexual and social education. And the porn industry is responsible for her negative reactions too. There is so much degrading and subintelligent and non-arousing stuff here. Yes, many women are fundamentally against porn, and they will never watch it. ( Like my mother ) She says, that sex shouldnt be in the public. Its a private thing. You cant convince her. She is a stalinist feminist. ( Reading the german EMMA ) For her, sex is very bad and she is very disappointed, that her daughter turned into a pro-porn activist.
But there are many women that think, "no, I dont have anything against sex in movies, but why always these fucking-sucking, without romance, kisses and a nice plot ?". I have showed some movies to female friends and relatives, and nearly 2/3 liked the movies. "Oh, I never thought that THESE movies existed. I thought it was all raping crap."
But these women will NEVER enter a store or browse through the adult movies alone, they need an advice and you can only ( or I ) make mouth-to-mouth propaganda.
Let me try and keep track of this: ILMR = SueR = BustdownGal * I wonder if this mystery babe will make yet another appearance in this thread -- in the same, or in a still different, guise.
There is no perfection, but Janine comes closest 4 Posts 6/09
Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 3:48PM
Watching porn was how we learned what to do with a woman, when we were teenagers. We certainly didn't ask our parents for advices. Of course, we later perfected the techniques depending on what our women wanted and preferred. In my opinion, watching porn should be made mandatory in all high schools. :-)
Mine is the last generation that had sex before we ever saw any porn. I really could have done with more education. I wasn't much good at it when I started, but most of the porn I have seen would not have helped. Nina Hartley's instructional videos would have been good.
I learned a lot more of what it's all about from books and women. I don't think I saw a porn movie until about five years after the first time I had sex. By that time I knew enough to see that a lot of porn is nothing like real sex.
