I am wondering if a girl doing a Max Hardcore scene has changed your opinion of her for good or bad? I recently Saw The Rebecca Linares Universal Max 7 Euro Scene. And it was like everyone was saying. He treats Her like Shit. Pissing in her mouth and Slapping and all around being Max to her. You could tell from the the look on her face she wasn't enjoying it. It looks like she got in way over her head with him. Everytime I see her now I always think back to that scene she did with Max. I think I was bad choice,just like everyone will forever remember Briana Banks (AKA Mirage) For the Pissing Scene she did with Max Hardcore. Now I just hope that some of my Favorites Like Brianna Love and Hailey Young Don't Fall into the Max Trap. Hailey Young was in one of his Movies, but I think it was more of a crossover thing with Brandon Iron for One of His Baker's Dozen Movies. I'm not too sure. Correct me if I'm wrong about that. So what do you the rest of you think about this Topic?
No, it doesn't change my mind. I don't like his movies and I hope that the women in them know what is going to happen but I don't think any less or any more of someone for appearing in one of his films.
^^^Yeah it's just porn. I don't analyze it that deeply. The only "porn history" that matters to me is directors/cameramen. If they ruin a scene starring a girl I really wanted to see, that director goes on my "list".
I'm not big on the degradation thing so I tend to stay away from Max's films. More power to the guy for exploiting the genre and retaining its loyal audience throughout the years.
I have never tried to psycho-analyze Max. But to the point, appearing in Max scene rates neither a demerit nor a gold star on my scorecard. It's neither an acheivement to be awed by nor a disappointment to be looked down on. It's just another scene the girl performed in.
Layla Rivera and Hailey Young did a scene for Baker's Dozen (now www.covermyface.com) together at Max's home. He was kind enough to do some camera work for me and I appreciated his help that day.
Yes, I actually forgot that I owned Baker's Dozen 7. LOL. So much porn. Great Movie by the way. So Brandon, I'm curious if you filmed her baker's dozen scene before she did american bukkake.
Well you would only hope. Sometimes girls you wouldn't expect to do a max film does one. I.E. Sativa Rose. Now she was surprise for sure. I remember her earlier vids and she looked like she hated getting a facial, but she sure did take Max's Piss well. LOL
I don't hate Max. I actually liked His earlier stuff. Back when he actually fucked girls hard, but good. But he went off track and starting doing all the little girl stuff mixed with piss and all the rest. Just give me some good, hard fucking minus the circus act shit.
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Posted - Jul 21 2008 : 10:14AM
*intended for other Max Hardcore thread Edited by - Taylor Von Bailey on 7/21/2008 5:48:02 PM
You could just as easily say the dvd buyers are the reason. I'm no Max fan, but seems to me like a misplaced move, avoiding a (for example) RedLightDistrict DVD just because a "Max Girl" happens to appear in that RedLightDistrict DVD.
Eh, I don't watch that much porn to begin with, so I'm really not making much of a stand. If an actress who's worked with him is in something I happen to look at, I'm turned off so much by that association that it ruins it for me... I recognize I approach porn too cerebrally. I can't help it. And you have a good point, some of the responsibility does lie with the people who watch it, but let's be honest. The actresses are "supplying" the product.
If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06
Posted - Jul 21 2008 : 4:57PM
If you've been around the adult industry for at least 5 minutes you've heard of Max. So while I can certainly understand that shooting for Max may not be every girl's first choice, it's pretty hard to say you've never heard of him, and you don't know what he does. Someone who goes to shoot for Max Hardcore, pretty much would know what they are in for. So if a woman chooses to accept the offer, it's pretty hard to say "I didn't know what I was getting into".
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore Oh, Max, you romantic, you... and from amiannoying.com: "One of his cameramen said that about half of the women he had sex with cried, bled or vomited." Edited by - burningdownthehouse on 7/21/2008 5:58:21 PM
I was surprised when Leanni Lei did her scenes with Max, she didn't strike me as the type of girl who would do a Max Hardcore movie, but it didn't change my opinion of her, I still remained a big fan. She didn't have the problems that some girls have reported in dealing with Max, judging by her comments in this chat "max didn't make me do anything.....but of course he asked" "he's different.....kinda cooky and funny at the same time" "max has a bad rep i know in movies, but in real life he's actually a nice guy"
real answer is: Rocco isn't old and ugly as Max. If you consider Max Hardcore as a misogynist...Rocco makes the same things, head in the toilet and stuff like that.
""max has a bad rep i know in movies, but in real life he's actually a nice guy" See, there's a difference between kindness and patronization. It's always "I know people don't believe it, but he's really a swell guy!" As if his "niceness" comes from anything but his angry, patronizing misogyny. You're not "nice from the heart" to people you devalue enough to brutalize on film for profit. If he's nice, it's because he wants you to cooperate on camera and not sue him when you're done working with him.
+1, although i don't like the way both treat the girls . some of rocco's scenes disturb me much more than max . even directors like jake malone (which is one of my favorites)and many others shoot rougher scenes and abusive degrading stuff than max (i don't think there's anything wrong with that as long as everyone knows what they get and accept it). lots of hypocrisy here (just because max is an old ugly asshole with a big mouth and a small dick ).
Is it an actual fact that max isn't a nice guy off camera? Are there horror stories about Max's personality off camera? I ask because I don't see how people can judge a person based their on screen persona. I may be totally wrong but I always figured Max is/was a so-so porn guy who wouldn't have been much of a big deal in porn but found a ninch and exploited it for all it's worth. Isn't all that stuff just an act/performance put on by Max and the girls for the audince who likes that type of stuff? Other than the "sick" and "creepy" stuff is having sex with Max harder on a girl than someone like Rocco (or plenty of other guys) who's bigger and more intense? Aren't most of the girls who appear in Max's movies playing a part and acting/pretending like what they're doing is worse than it actual is? Just like the girls who may not like something in other movies have to pretend they're really into certain things? Don't Max and the girls discuss all that stuff ahead of time and the girls agree to it? I'm not a big max fan but it seems to me that if he was as evil and terrible as some people claim he'd never get anyone to work with him much less have repeat performers.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jul 23 2008 : 1:11AM
Wrong, Rocco makes good rough S/M tinged porn whereas Max makes shitty pseudo-S/M porn. Jake Malone is pretty old looking and makes pretty good rough porn, I've never even seen what Mason looks like and she makes brilliant rough porn.
So could you say that either the women just have no Idea of what they are getting into or maybe they do go in knowing what the scene will be like. I think Rebbeca Linares scene comes to mind. She looked like she didn't know it was going to get that rough. A very interesting thing to think about.
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Posted - Jul 23 2008 : 10:20AM
+1+1Yeah. For a 4-5 yea period in the 90's Max was my boy, my hero. I like, no loved his shit. Just after a while I guess I got burned out/jaded/bored. But what really got me was that gyno shit, like with the speculum. I saw pics of that shit and it was a major turn off so I never actually saw it in action. That was the turning point for me. Haven't seen any new Max in years, even though some of his work interests me, just haven't made the choice to get any. Just other stuff is higher on my lists of porn wants. ANYWAY I find it funny that a chick can do all kinds of nasty shit with any and everyone else and it's all good. Yet they do it with Max or some other guy who is hated for whatever reason and all of a sudden the chick it tainted, she's damaged goods. All of a sudden there is concern for the chicks physical and mental state. Fuck out of here! There is a topic with like 20+ pages on chicks fucking animals, yet I bet some of those guys on both sides of that topic would probably rather a chick fuck a dog than Max. Again And did I see someone allude Hitler with Max? *sigh* Bruh it's not that damn serious.
i agree.hell,i just saw the roxy jezel scene with rocco sifriedi,,,,and WOW!!!!this big dicked animal fucked her so hard,so deep,so long,,that she was in obvious pain.(a scene now on my all-time favorites dvd-by the way)i mean,this guy is a horse,and does the same shit mostly with girls,yet he's a hero.sure Max talks the shit more,and dresses the girls up in teeny-wear,,,but rocco is just as big a monster as ANYONE in the industry. both of these men are my personal hero's,for the record. but back to the topic.i like an actress more when i find she has worked with Max.i hunt down all material of these g irls once i know they have.if it was the first scene of her career with Max,i then archive all her work. then you have these guys who like hearing that Max may be going to jail.UNREAL.who watches porn for the normal sex scenes?who does'nt like seeing a young,lazy porno girl,,too lazy to think about working a 9-5 job fresh outta high school,,get thougholy worked over by a stranger like Max!?!?!it's a dream.these girls have decided to go to strange places,walk into strange homes,,and give up thier body cavities to strange men for money.and men out there have a problem with hardcore porn,and men like Max. HUH?
Hmmmmm. One difference between Rocco and Max could be that after her scene with Rocco, Roxy Jezel didn't have anything negative to say. But after her scene with Max, she said this (scroll to the bottom of the link): [ invalid url ] Now we all know that Roxy has done a lot of hard scenes, so for her to say this about Max clearly shows that her problem with him wasn't that it was a hard scene, or that there was S&M, or whatever. Her problem was that Max does things that are not agreed upon. That's why people don't like him. You can do the hardest scenes in the world, and that's ok, so long as the talent has agreed to do it. With Max, that often isn't the case.
she stopped the scene with Rocco, why she doesn't stopped the scene with Max? Edited by - leatherface on 9/3/2008 1:18:16 PM Edited by - leatherface on 9/3/2008 1:29:27 PM
I would love to hear from women how they've percieved him in diffirent situations. I've heard 'professionalism', but I've never heard of a fun story involving him and I've never seen anything fun in his scenes or BTS. Why doesn't he seem to like having the privilige of meeting and fucking a lot of girls? Why does he act like the owner of some huge porn enterprise when his just little Max? I think he's completely unable to have a serious or even casual relation with a woman, so he's shielding himself by being 'professional'. Rocco can goof off a little, and everyone else doing rough mentioned in this thread seem to have a pretty good time... but Max is doing a dirty job because someone's got to do it?
First of all, there was no need to quote my entire post. Clip that shit down. Okay, so to respond to you: I've never seen the scene with Rocco, I've just had it described to me. But it was my understanding that she didn't stop the scene, she just stopped the anal sex, and then they continued with a blowjob later. Is this correct? BUT if you really want to know, well, she is still in the biz, and she does check [ invalid url ] regularly (most recently was this past Saturday), so why don't you ask her? [edit: forgot the second "o" in "Rocco". I am sooooo smart.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/3/2008 12:56:06 PM
Interesting; thank you for pointing me to that other thread. It seems as though there are some very conflicting opinions between various ADT'ers about how she felt about the scene, even after watching the complete scene and the BTS! Especially since, in this post, it's mentioned that in the BTS of another movie, Roxy says Rocco went too far in her scene with him. Again, I would urge anyone here to contact Roxy at [ invalid url ] if they really want to know how she felt about it. BUT, I would tend to believe what she said at a later date more than anything she said at the time. Why? Well, because at the time you can be very overwhelmed with emotions, etc. But why would you lie about something several months or years later? There doesn't seem to be any reason for Roxy to say that "Rocco went too far and he doesn't know what 'no' means" if that's not really how she felt. So in this case, it kinda looks like both Rocco and Max went too far with a particular performer. What we need then, if we are really to compare the two, would be more stories from other girls.
Although I don't care for the more recent stuff with the vomit and the pee and I never got the point of the speculum or when he'd poke a finger in a woman's butt or pussy and push it through the other whole, Max Hadrcore is among the most innovative guys in the industry. The stuff that is mainstream today: gagging, ass to mouth, cum drinking, cum swapping, and the rough stuff was all done by Max in the early 1990s. On top of that, his lighting is always good (relatively speaking) and he's hands down the best actor in the industry (unless he's playing himself in which case he's cornered the market on being a curmudgeon). And he's a surprisingly sensitive guy if you can find some of his comments about former running buddies such as Bi-Sexual Britni. Finally, Max Hardcore is a gatekeeper to the magical world of Pr0n that we all love. Before I develop a serious interest in a new starlet, I need to know she's paid her dues in one of two ways. Either she's paid her dues the hard way by working with Max or she's paid her dues the easier way by working with Joey Silvera--who is as rough and pervy as anyone not named Dario Rocco Siffredi. (There's a third way: working with Ed Powers but his films just don't do it for me.) As for the comments about the size of Max's ya ya. He's putting some hot tight bodied newbie's ass and you're measuring his ding dong. As Roger the Alien on American Dad would say: "Really?"
sure supertee.lol.never been asked before,but...i must say that,@ 37 years of age,and after owning a computer the last 8 years,,,i dont buy ANY dvd's.back pre-internet,my favorites to rent were Max Hardcore,Bukakkee's,Rocco Sifreidi(mis-spelled-lol)Joey Silvera,gangland to name a few. now,my favorite content are web-sites.ther's kink.com,the old meatholes(not any more however.they have for some reason edited thier content.it's now not worth a dime because the hardest scenes are gone/cut,,and extra sites like piss-mops are now unavailable),then there's Max Hardcore of course.anything over the top hardcore.i find it hard to like 90% of the sites out there nowadays.guess starting out young watching Max content and the like have jaded/hardened my soul.lol. but,while joining mega-sites like videobox.com and videoz.com etc...dvd's and series like black attack gangbang,7 the hard way,6 black sticks-1 white chick,barely 18,anything teen related all are some of my favorites,i guess. BUT,I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS.hardcore only please.have a good one supertee.
This kind of post is unnecessary and against the etiquette of the forum.Edited by - Flash on 9/6/2008 7:15:13 PM
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Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 1:03AM
who the hell buys his stuff, anyways? what the hell? chrissakes. Max is a openly devout racist/bigot.
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Darrah Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 2:38AM
The comments I read at LIB is that she didn't know who Max was and was lead to that room by her agent. Her agent left her there until it was all done. Her agent then shows up and comments at LIB attacking me when I called him a rapist and just the same as Max. Her agent then says she supposedly stayed with him for the next 10 months. I said then why do battered women stay with their abusive husbands/boyfriends, why do adult women publicly defend the fathers that raped them. Just because she supposedly stayed with her agent for the next 10 months is meaningless. Why do most of the porn girls stay with their agents after the shit their agents have put them through? I've never been abused. So I don't know the mentality behind why women stay. But she didn't know who Max was and her agent lied to her and lured her there full well knowing she trusted him.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Sep 7 2008 : 3:48AM
JESUS,,,this blacksix character is a downer to read.male or fmale i don't know.but perhaps "it" should switch to romance novels!!!
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Right, check out a Malone or Mason flick and tell me that's a romance novel 'not ruff enuff' Sorry to bring you down by pointing out that Max makes poorly shot and performed pornography. I guess uncritical support for any shit someone puts out there would be preferred.
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Posted - Jul 20 2008 : 3:34PM
Fuck out of here!