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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 5:25AM
^^ Please re-read my post and the one I made earlier in a more extensive fashion. You have clearly not read what I said given that you have focused solely on the extremity of the acts as the determining reason for winning. This is in spite of me stating in both of my posts that I have made it crystal clear that I am considering a multitude of reasons beyond that and have presented arguments to support them as such.
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 6:22AM
Yes, Riley Reid is bit of a surprise in how she takes on the anal guys.
Riley Reid has been in the porn-business for a while doing pussy only movies. And I would've said that she was too skinny to do well among anal porn-fans.
But I have to say that she has changed my mind with her performance in 'Being Riley Reid'. The thing that turns me on is that Riley Reid goes on an anal campaign and does it with anal guys again and again.
When the lady does it only one time, then you don't really know if she likes it or not. But when the lady takes on the anal guys again and again in one scene after another, then this makes it look like she really likes anal sex and anal guys. Which is a turn-on for anal porn-fans like me.
Anal porn-fans like being liked. And Riley Reid makes it look like she really likes anal guys.
Edited by - Dan on 10/23/2015 6:27:06 AM
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 10:13AM
So I'll restate the first part of that post again:
What makes Adriana's "non-showcase" scenes better than everyone else's?
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 10:20AM
Huh...looks like nobody is really considering who I think is the odds-on favorite to win it: Carter Cruise. I mean, we're talkin' about a girl who's had several showcase movies released in 2015, most notably the one for BLACKED (Carter Cruise Obsession), is as gonzo as they come (anal, DP, blowbang, gangbang-you name it, she's done it) and has also had several hits on the features side. Oh yeah, she's also the one who won "Best New Starlet" last year.
 
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 10:50AM
Personally, everyone appears to be making very good points and in the end, as we all know, we won't find out who the Performer of the Year is until January 23, 2016.
Carter Cruise - The Reigning Starlet of the Year came out of the blocks hard, with a prolific amount of work, both gonzo and feature, did an epic amount of blowbangs, DPs and gangbangs, and was featured in what was probably the best selling feature/showcase of the year: "Carter Cruise Obsession" - it spent 4 weeks at the top of the ADE charts. From June onwards, however, Carter has been particularly quiet and this combined with her shift to G/G only may seriously impact her chances.
On the other hand, Riley Reid, another superb performer, started the year particularly slow. In fact, I'm sure many would agree that until the "Being Riley" showcase - not the best selling, but definitely one of the best received showcases of the year - that Riley really put her stamp on 2015. While it was an amazing showcase, it remains to be seen whether it will be enough to get her across the line. But many contributors are correct, she's definitely in the front pack. The fact that both Carter and Riley are Spiegler Girls will definitely help them. It's not since the days of Tori Black that we've seen a non-Spiegler Girl with POTY.
While people have been mentioning Dani Daniels and Anikka Albrite, I don't think either have expanded/grown their performances enough this year, and without a significant showcase to propel their case for 2016 POTY, it would be difficult to see either performer giving the contest a real shake.
Like Carter, Keisha came out of the blocks hard, notching up a number of firsts, developing her level of performance and driving the sales numbers of a lot of releases. The problem is, is that while Keisha is a very good looking girl and a strong performer, she is not of the same calibre, performance-wise, as the likes of Carter or Riley. She doesn't impose her will on a scene, she doesn't make it her own. In fact, as many of her strong supporters have written on her ADT thread, she can sometimes come across as disinterested. Moreover, rather than showcase her strengths as an A list performer, her performance in "Gangbang Me 2" in fact highlighted her current deficiencies. Dahlia Sky's gangbang was, as many reviewers and fans commented on, miles ahead of Keisha's gangbang and in turn illustrative of the fact that Keisha probably needs another year before she's really going to give the competition a shake.
Speaking of Dahlia Sky, like Chanel Preston and Aidra Fox, while they are all phenomenal performers which performers and producers love to work with, their scope of work as well as the associated hype and marketing, not to mention the presence of a serious, top-notch show case, really handicaps their chances.
As I mentioned earlier, I am a huge Angela White fan. Not only is she a phenomenal performer, but she has grown into one of the best female producers/directors in the biz. One the one hand, she does have the benefit of featuring in a number of extremely well-received and strong selling showcases that highlighted her diversity as a performer - with women, men, in threesomes, and in more extreme orgy-style sex - but as Bonnie and others pointed out, the fact that she only shoots for herself - what would appear to be the result of her living in Australia, means she probably doesn't have enough exposure or scenes under her belt in 2015. If she did, she would definitely be up there at the top of the pack.
Finally, one needs to discuss Adriana. She's been around for a couple of years honing her skills, and 2015 has seen her perform in a copious amount of scenes, both gonzo and feature, while continue to push the "extreme". The problem for Adriana is that not only does she have slightly weaker branding than some of the other performers, but if you look at her titles, she doesn't appear to sell that well. Very strange, I know. But if you followed the charts this years, none of her titles really vied for top spot in the charts. Taking ADE ranking as one example, Jesse: Alpha Female spent a fortnight at number one, Being Riley spent a fortnight at number one, Carter Cruise Obsession spent four weeks at number one, The Real Buttwoman Returns and Angela: Volume Two are currently 1 and 2 resprectively on the ADE charts, while Adriana's a Slut capped out at number 12. If I'm to be honest, I think that's a major problem.
Sorry for rambling, but that's my two cents. Love to hear what you guys think.
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:18AM
^
A long post there, but you made several good points, most notably in regards to Riley Reid. I, too, seem to remember that prior to the news revealing her Tushy showcase, her Star Crossed thread here was quiet for much of this year because there wasn't really anything to talk about, as far as new/upcoming scenes from her. I mean, I know there were a couple of scenes that came out during the time prior to the Tushy revelation, but the way I remember it is that 2015 was rather "quiet" for her up until the big announcement. Regardless, I think it goes without saying that the anal showcase, alone, makes her one of the front-runners for this award.
And to make a quick point about Carter Cruise...keep in mind that even though she announced she was "taking a break" in June, the scenes for her BLACKED showcase didn't start to get released on the membership site until June and the DVD itself wasn't released until August.
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:28AM
^
That is true regarding Carter Cruise. Good point.
You also make a good point that quantity isn't everything. Riley's showcase dropped and boom(!), she raced into contention.
That's why I think Angela White is still a chance because of Angela: Volume Two and her other showcases.
What's your opinion, if we are discussing this line of thought, when it comes to Jesse (Jane), Samantha Saint or Alexis Texas?
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:43AM
^
Hmm...honestly, I've never been interested in those three, but it seems like each of 'em did make a mark this year. Jesse started doin' some stuff for Jules Jordan, Alexis Texas returned to gonzo by working with Jules and Elegant Angel, and Samantha Saint did some stuff for Jules, too, right?
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:45AM
Correct, all three returned in varying ways with showcases with Jules. It just seems they haven't had the same impact as any of the other performers all of us have been discussing.
It's like they're from a past generation, that in terms of performance, is nowhere near the current girls.
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:54AM
^
Yeah, on the JJV thread, that seems to be a common complaint about all three of 'em-that they're too "vanilla."
And going back to your first post...I like her a lot, but I have to admit that you're probably right about Keisha Grey, that her personality and this idea that she's "disinterested" in scenes sometimes is a detriment to her chances. As for Adriana Chechik, she seems to be like one of the most popular performers here on ADT, but you may be correct in stating that she doesn't have "mass appeal."
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 1:23PM
And I shall restate my original respose - go read my initial post, all the reasons are there.
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 1:41PM
Logistical question here - does anybody know if a female performer has won both Best New Starlet and Best Performer in the same year, or if it's even possible or allowed? I can think of a few amazing new girls that would also considered frontrunners if this was within the rules.
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 3:52PM
^Missy (RIP) won both in the same year (1997).
(As much as I loved Missy's work, I felt that it was a bad decision. One or the other...not both...not in the same year. The same goes for Tori Black's back-to-back wins. Love her work...really sweet person...wasn't a fan of the back-to-back thing.)
Edited by - fu_q on 10/23/2015 4:11:24 PM
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I'm going to expand on why I believe that Adriana Chechik should win. I know that opinions are like assholes (...and often held by assholes...), so everyone has one, but here goes:
To me, the FPOTY needs to have a special spark, needs to show that she cares about what she's doing, and needs to leave it _all_ out there on the screen. She also should be stunningly beautiful and really give a shit.
This is what made Bonnie Rotten awesome, and it's what made Sasha Grey awesome. Anikka Albrite, in a bit of a different way, also largely fit this bill.
Chechik, in my opinion, has all of the requirements.
-Stunning good looks. She could have been a Vivid Girl back when being a Vivid Girl actually meant something. Nobody in the industry right now is _more_ attractive than she is. (Do Vivid Girls even exist any more?)
-Leaves it all out there. She does extreme acts, and--from the way it often seems--she actually wants to do them...almost as if she wants to test her own boundaries and accomplish something more than she has before. How many anal fistings has she taken...self- and from others? How many crazy things has she put up her butt? Hell... she even recently took a life-cast, equine dildo up her ass in Dana Vespoli's recent release. Who gives more than she does?
-Really gives a shit. Watch the aforementioned AVN ShoTime special and tell me that she doesn't care about her job. Those tears were real, and that drive and determination are just as real. She's the real deal. (If you listen to her interviews, it seems that she came from a difficult place in life. She's chosen this avenue to make something of herself, and she's succeeding.)
-Special spark. All of this adds up to that special spark. She's awesome, and so are her scenes...and her prevalence in films these days shows it.
I'm not saying that she's _going_ to win, but I am saying that there isn't anyone out there who deserves it more...and plenty who arguably deserve it less.
The next tears that she cries at an AVN Award Show, I'm hoping, will be tears of joy after having just won the FPOTY award.


Edited by - fu_q on 10/23/2015 4:18:43 PM

 
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 5:50PM
You mean the one where you cited how extreme she was (technically) three different times? Yeah, I read that.
And again, I'm not trying to say that she would be an unworthy winner, but that given the recent history of the winners of this award, "extremeness" does not play a particularly large factor as to who is going to win.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 3:14AM
^
OK, for one last time, I'm going to break it down for you nice and simple for you being as you seem incapable of extracting different points from a single post:
Point 1 - "for the relentless release of scenes she's shooting"
Point 2 - "for her versatility and variety in shooting both erotic and extreme with equal conviction"
Point 3 - "for her ability to be so utterly genuinely passionate with the girls just as much as the guys"
Point 4 - "for the incredible consistency in the quality of her scenes"
Point 5 - "for her astonishing ability to find ever more extreme and nasty acts to perform and push herself to do just when you think she's done it all already"
Point 6 - "the tenacity and the physical strength to keep this up for so long and still look as fresh and as stunning as ever"
Point 7 - "The sheer volume of highly memorable scenes she's out out this year is more than anybody else by some margin"
Point 8 - "all three girls face shown they have some real acting chops too"
Eight completely different points, two mentions of sex act extremity in two completely different contexts. You are the one focused on extremity being a deciding factor not me, for whatever reason. Clear now?
Edited by - H1gh Contra5t on 10/24/2015 3:15:25 AM
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 3:25AM
Riley deserves all the awards she gets.
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Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 11:51AM
As a fan, I don't see what needs to happen on set to bring a great performance into my living room. I agree that excellence in porn has very little to do with what extreme acts a performer is willing or unwilling to do.
Still, there are some great solo and GG performers (including your fellow Spiegler-girl Jenna Sativa) who will never be considered for FPOTY unless and until they take cock.
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Dani Daniels wasn't nominated until after she shot this title.
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So on the whole I agree with you. But I wouldn't say that a willingness to do "extreme" acts is irrelevant. In fact, girls who are unwilling to take cock on camera are not in the running.
Like BlackSix, I prefer curvier girls, but Riley definitely makes my dick hard. If it weren't for her personality, she wouldn't be in the running.
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Still, the Tushy scene may provide that tiny little nudge that takes her over the top.
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Here are the actual nominees for the 2016 AVN Awards:
Anikka Albrite
August Ames
AJ Applegate
Vicki Chase
Adriana Chechik
Carter Cruise
Dani Daniels
Aidra Fox
Keisha Grey
Jillian Janson
Eva Lovia
Maddy OReilly
Romi Rain
Riley Reid
Kleio Valentien
Surprising omission: Casey Calvert
Still think it is a tossup between Riley Reid and Adriana Chechik.
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 2:04AM
no valentina nappi & amirah adara ?this is unfair
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 11:16AM
No Karmen Karma... Well, in my opinion it has to be Adriana. Last years winner Anikka was had some really strong scenes, too. But Adriana clearly was 2015's most important performer.
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 11:47AM
^^ Valentina and Amirah weren't even nominated for Foreign Performer of the Year. Glaring omission. Valentina had 4 scenes that got nominated for AVN's while Amirah got shut out.
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 3:38PM
This is a power list. There are many to choose from and some fabulous performances.
I would say that Adriana Chechik is the frontrunner. Keisha Grey could definitely take home the trophy.
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 3:51PM
I would go for either Keisha Grey or AJ Applegate
 
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 6:23PM
Very interesting when you count how many nominations each star received. Carter Cruise leads the group with 12 nominations followed closely by Adriana Chechik with 11.
Here is the distribution:
Anikka Albrite - 9
August Ames - 2
AJ Applegate - 3
Vicki Chase - 6
Adriana Chechik - 11
Carter Cruise - 12
Dani Daniels - 7
Aidra Fox - 9
Keisha Grey - 6
Jillian Janson - 7
Eva Lovia - 5
Maddy O’Reilly - 7
Romi Rain - 5
Riley Reid - 9
Kleio Valentien - 4
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 7:22PM
^ I noticed this too, 11 nominations is an extraordinary amount. You would have to consider that to be recognised for so many different categories says something about Adriana's chances of winning the main prize. As overjoyed as I am to see her nominated for so many, I'm very surprised there was not a single G/G scene that was nominated given how many incredible ones she has done this year, particularly for Jonni Darkko and Jay Sin and Aiden Riley. Her most recent scene in Fetish Fanatic 18 with AJ Applegate was a truly brilliant scene and easily among her very best ever. I also wished she would have had a scene nominated for Most Outrageous Scene because, let's be honest, she does so many of these and she takes a particularly great deal of pride in delivering these kinds of scenes. I'm probably just being greedy but I still would have liked for her to be recognised for these aspects of her work as well.
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 8:03PM
^ Adriana did get some recognition for her g/g work:
Best Actress - The Turning - Incredible acting in this movie done by Adriana. She was in every scene. I hope she wins.
Best All Girl Group Sex Scene - The Turning - Adriana, Carter, Jelena and Tara
As you were, I was surprised she didn't get recognized for her gonzo g/g performances, though.
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 8:26PM
Can I add two more names to the list? They could also both and probably will be in the BEST MILF (for me Lisa Ann) category, but for performer of the year (yes also mention Lisa Ann) I would also nominate Ava Adams & Veronica Avluv
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 8:36PM
^ Both are nominees in the MILF Performer of the Year category.
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 8:55PM
can you give me a link to that tread??
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 10:45PM
I'm gonna go with either Aidra Fox, AJ Applegate or August Ames. My money would be on AJ tho.
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 3:44AM
Yes sorry I should have clarified, I meant her gonzo scenes. I'm still pleased she's at least been recognised for her G/G work, especially as it is The Turning because this was a movie she was especially proud of being part of . I just wish I had the time and money to watch it all!
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 5:37AM
Although I think Adriana Chechik will win it, I want Aidra Fox to win it. She's had an awesome year!
 
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 6:07AM
Personally, I think Karmen Karma is a glaring omission from the nominees list.
Anyways, even after the revealing of the official nominees list, I still think one of the Greg Lansky showcase girls will win it-Carter Cruise or Riley Reid.
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 10:33AM
Unlike Newcomer which I think comes down to two girls, I think this is way more of a toss up . I could see them going 5 or 6 different ways with it based on different reasoning.
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 11:04AM
We should all be offended about Valentina Nappi's omission from POTY nomimations. Could be argued that she is the best looking of anyone in the business, and just as perverted as anyone as well... I just dont understand it.
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 11:12AM
Indeed
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 11:51AM
I'm surprised Mia Malkova isn't a nominee.
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 1:17PM
A slight OT question, but what with Adriana receiving 11 nominations does anybody know the highest number of AVN awards won by a single performer is? I'm just curious if she could set a record here.
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 3:55PM
2015 is the year of Adriana Chechik. I think she will win. But I fear - if she won this award at such an early stage of her career that can be withdrawn faster than porn. For example, as Tori Black and Bonnie Rotten.
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 7:18PM
Tori Black won 5 when she won FPOTY in 2010. Asa Akira actually won 6 in 2012 (5 of them specifically for Insatiable 2), and lost to Bobbi Starr for FPOTY, then won 5 when she won FPOTY in 2013. Anikka won 5 last year. Ashyln Gere actually won 5 the first year they had Female POTY in 1993.
And I'm fairly sure that the 12 that Carter Cruise has isn't the most nominations in a year, but I'm not about to go digging to find out what that answer is. And Adriana's actually nominated 3 times in best group scene, so the most she can win is 9.
Edit: And I still feel like this is Riley's year.
Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 11/21/2015 7:19:30 PM
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 7:24PM
^ That's good to know, thanks for the info. I would love it for Adriana to set a new record for most AVN awards won, it would be a huge crescendo to an already amazing year and the perfect way to round it off. As a loyal #ChechikArmy member, here's to hoping .
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 8:03PM
No matter who wins all the girls in porn can be proud of their achievements whether they were nominated or not there is a lot of happy guys and girls out there enjoying their scenes and even if the girl is not on the "radar" of the big Studios she will still have her army of fans who love her to bits and love her work
Here is my prepared speech for the winner of this competition and she should stand up and take a deep breath and look everyone face on then say the following....
(Drum Roll) And the AVN 2016 award winner is....(Anikka Albrite) followed by rapturous applause
Anikka: I would just like to say thank you to everyone who voted for me and made this moment a reality,as much as it's a huge honor to be selected and to win this award i think the real winner is not only me its also you ,my fellow performers and Directors and everyone else behind the scenes in porn from the make up artists to the sound crew etc and of course the fans the real people who enjoy and love porn and support us girls.
Thank you for all your support,it's with this genuine appreciation and love that i will continue to perform knowing that the real people who matter are fully behind me and that will drive me on to bigger and better things and essentially make me a better person.
I would also like to offer Stinkfist 24 hours of no holes barred fun,sometimes its better to give than to receive although on this occasion i think the greedy bugger is looking for both :) and on that note YES Stinkfist im ready for you :0
The End
Edited by - stinkfist on 11/21/2015 8:04:43 PM
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Does anybody know if there is also an award for an Alt girl of the year? if so I would go with Larkin Love this year
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 5:36AM
Who wins: Riley Reid
Who should win: Adriana Chechik
Runners up: Anikka Albrite, AJ Applegate
Most glaring omission from the list: Dahlia Sky
Edited by - JB_X on 11/24/2015 5:37:52 AM
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 11:31PM
^Yeah, Dahlia not being nominated is a bit weird.
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 12:01AM
Really dig Larkin Love but her scenes seem rarer than hen's teeth, unless I'm not looking in the right places?
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 9:51AM
ALT girl for me it would be Proxy Paige :)
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Posted - Dec 4 2015 : 12:35AM
AVN's list isn't exactly mine ... but I enjoyed watching the following gals an awful lot this year (and other years):
Vicki Chase
Adriana Chechik
Carter Cruise
Aidra Fox
Keisha Grey
Jillian Janson
Maddy O’Reilly
Riley Reid
Felt like Adriana Chechik should have gotten it last year. But at this point, either Maddy O'Reilly or Riley Reid are more overdue. (I'll lean toward Maddy, her sexuality seems to have really exploded in the last year or so). Carter Cruise could take it and I wouldn't mind, although -- as usual when you win best new starlet – she's spun off toward some other ambitions. So probably lacks the edge others might have. Unless AVN wants to go for "mainstream" appeal. Vicki Chase has been kicking ass for several years and would be hugely deserving.
I'm gonna say it's one of either AC, MO or RR. And I'd vote personally for Maddy.


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