Maybe I should have spelled out for the peanut gallery that I am looking specifically for fairly educated guesses and not Adriana Chechik yelling and splashing pee everywhere or whatever.
^ Opinion from here in the peanut gallery, looking for a g/g scene where Miss Porn actually gets off? I'd say look for scenes where the girl is fingering herself as she is receiving oral. That gives the indication she's actually trying to have an orgasm. Saw it recently in a sensual.love with Alissa Foxy & Kelly Collins. Doubt Alissa actual had an orgasm, but the fingers were working, so she was at least trying.
^^Speaking of orgasm, I have a pretty high degree of confidence about this one from Straplez between Mia and new girl Adrianna.
Adrianna does not appear to have done anything else. Her name doesn't even show up in any of the other MetArt sites. Overall a nice scene, though for the most part Adrianna is a bit reserved so it's difficult to say if she has enjoyed herself. The exception is the oral sex.
The foreplay is pretty perfunctory. Adrianna looks somewhat guarded. She has yet to master any sultry looks of seduction. Then Mia rips a hole in her pantyhose. That's when Adrianna begins to lose control in the most sexy way possible.
Mia's oral sex is just magic. Adrianna tries her hardest to keep quiet and hold it back to no avail. This part is fantastic.
Doggie followed by missionary. Not bad, but during this feeldoe part the two of them just don't seem to connect in a very visceral way. It's easy to get jaded when two performers loudly and visibly respond to each other, but when it's not there (or at least not much), it does feel like a loss.
^That's one of the advantages new girls have; they haven't quite learned how to put on a performance yet, so chances are high you are getting authentic reactions from them when they are paired with an experienced partner. Best to enjoy while it lasts, before they pick up some bad habits.
^To be able to act a little is no bad thing. This is not just for the audience, but for their partner too. It contributes to a sense of cooperation and camaraderie.
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Posted - Apr 11 2023 : 11:30PM
^^Ah yes, the precious early scenes before they learn modern-day porny nuisances.
^Eh. I think focusing on acting is how we get the mostly-terrible (to me) content out there today. The scene partners can figure what each other needs by actual communication in the rare instances when there is a combination of an interest in doing that and the freedom to do so.
Usually though, we just get *screech* *stupid porn-sex 'dialogue'* *fake moan* *the end*
^I haven't seen the video yet but the cast looks very promising. But as far as plot goes, I'm just not part of the "taboo" audience (if that means any kind of family roleplay or such). One series that I really like in this respect is actually the kiss me/fuck me series, where it's just simple, straightforward sex between two established romantic partners. That series also has multiple scenes with very good sex too.
Really looking forward to this one. Although I'm sure most of the posters here won't be into it. Also interesting to see most of those scenes have been shot for the personal websites/onlyfans first and now later released by Evilangel. Times have changed in porn.
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Posted - Apr 13 2023 : 1:52PM
^^I agree. It's actually quite a cute story. I just watched the story and skimmed through the sex but I'll be watching it in full tonight. They spend just the right about of time on the story, the sex is itself is 35 minutes of a 48 minute scene which I really appreciate.
Some really cool cast members. Skylar Snow has some amazing scenes with GFF, Katrina has had an amazing scene with Freya Parker on Lesbian X, Gianna Dior has that great scene with Vanna Bardot on Slayed... but yeah this video is not exactly my cup of tea 😅
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Posted - Apr 14 2023 : 1:57AM
Looks pretty representative of GG porn these days.
did Serene Siren invented this hot position ?? scene with charli summer from twistys.com. is there more of gg scenes include this position?? she has with ember snow too.
^Oh yeah I definitely have seen her doing this in other scenes. But this is a perfect example of how subjective things are -- you like it, but I find it so bizarre and unappealing that when I did my recap of her scene with Jazlyn Ray, I kept the screencap of "normal" tribbing position in and deliberate left out that position.
Yet another interesting Brazzers scene, this is between Jenna Sativa and Isis Love, released on August 26, 2018, titled Detention With The Domme. I have left out the parts I don't are for (weird/bad tribbing, etc.) and only included the interesting/good parts (to me anyway).
Yeah it's a schoolgirl getting punished scene, what did you expect? I got to say Isis looks fantastic in glasses and the ruler. If you, like me, expect her to use that to spank Jenna, well, surprisingly, you'd be wrong. It will be put to a weird use later.
Jenna's oral sex is really good. I'm not disappointed. It's only after the oral sex that they kiss. It's a deep and hungry kiss and looks very good. Later Isis rims Jenna while penetrating her with two fingers.
She later just pumps Jenna hard with two fingers, which Jenna really likes. Later she spreads Jenna open and licks her clit hard for a very impressive three straight minutes. Jenna, unsurprisingly, really likes that. It's unironically, really good. The only weird part is that Jenna has to hold that ruler between her feet. Later she finally couldn't hold it up any more and drops it. As a punishment, she is kissed hard. Wow that's a really cool punishment, again, unironically.
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Posted - Apr 16 2023 : 3:49AM
Post your hot-takes.
Hot-Take 1: Sometimes the sex in porn tries to look like the sex in movies where there is supposed to be this torrid and hot love affair, and it always comes off comical to me because I think, "that doesn't look effective" and more immersion-breaking than that, "these people don't know each other." It's much, much better to just show two people exploring each other.
I can't wait for the interest in porn performers being actors to fall off.
Hot-Take 2: Women that are 1 hundo percent straight just shouldn't do girl-porn. It's weird, and really no one should be doing things they don't want to do in porn. Coming into porn just to continue doing stuff you don't want to do is asinine.
She didn't exactly invent that position, but she's definitely popularized it. Sinn Sage has been doing a similar position in her scenes since early in her career. Serene has actually talked a few times about how that position is one of her favorite things to do in a scene, so there are a LOT of examples to pick from with her work. In fact, as someone who has purchased a lot of her content over the last 3ish years, I'd say she probably does that in about ~70% of her work.
If you're interested in some good examples, I'd say check these ones out:
-Lesbian Seduction #63 with Zoey Monroe
-Women Loving Girls 5 with Chloe Temple
-Lesbian Booty Calls with Casca Akashova
-Brazzers "Exercising Her Ass Off" with Tiffany Watson (I virtually never recommend Brazzers G/G scenes, but this one is a rare gem with some great tribbing)
In my opinion, the only (american) sites that try to make it "torrid" and "hot" are allherluv and sweetheartvideo (although its scenes are usually short). I could mention GF Films too, but it's impossible not to compare these new scenes with the old ones (which were erotic, "torrid" and "hot").
Like a month ago Braylin Bailey tweeted something like "Who knows a good acting professor?", so I think she wants to improve her acting skills...
Most of the time,scenes that go for "torrid" and "hot" just don't deliver,cause it always devolves into "run of the mill" hardcore porn,except a lil slower. That,and the girls set so many boundaries between each other,till the point you can't believe the scene. Me personally,I can never fully get with a scene that ignores good nipple play,I don't think a lesbian/gay scene can really,fully work without it,and so many so called "erotic" and "sensual" just give very little time to breast.
Even though its softcore,if you wanna see a good example of torrid and hot scenes,check out stuff from this old softporn show called Beverly Hills Bordello. Acting wasn't all that,but the sensuality in the show(their lesbian stuff specifically)felt homoerotic,although its soft. So much lesbian porn just feels too much like an act,its never vulnerable enough to be believable(and its by design).
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A lot of the hardcore nasty B/G performers are just as good or even better than established G/G performers, they just rarely get the opportunity to show it.
Mature/Milf performers should be paired together much more often.
Scissor tribbing should be abolished.
Strap-Ons are the only toys that should be allowed in G/G scenes.
Girls should start out G/G only to prolong their careers. However a G/G only girl crossing over to B/G does lessen their appeal.
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Posted - Apr 17 2023 : 2:33PM
Which BG performers are you talking about? I don't really get the point of there being some kind of separation or purity thing. I say as long as the performers actually like pleasing women, bring them on. And if they don't like pleasing women but just have fun "playing with women" leave them out.
On milfs, I am tired of that trope (and all porn tropes really). If it were up to me, I would use 30-something performers more often and not even reference the "milf" thing. I hate it so much.
Agreed! Scissoring is stupid enough as it is, but then in a low-quality porn scene, the women have to act like not making physical content with their vulvae at all is making them cum oh so hard. It's obnoxious.
I'd prefer to watch women use vibrators or G-spot toys over strap-ons.
Yes I have watched that scene. The sex is great. The rest is very, very problematic. For a lack of a better word, it's too authentic. In the Feminist Porn thread, I touched on this without delving too deeply into it. For me, I think it's important that women (or men for that matter) in porn should treat this as work, and reserve a separate, private identity for themselves outside work. Once the camera is turned on, they should assume an identity that is different from their personal identity. It's not easy, of course, but actors in general try to do this all the time. As a viewer, I am certainly interested in seeing more than just sex, but that's where story and writing and acting come in. That's not where real life should come in.
In that scene, there are certainly moments where I feel the camera should be turned off. Sure they are consenting adults and they have the freedom to put that on tape and have it disseminated publicly if they choose, but as a viewer (or a filmmaker), there are responsibilities to refrain from certain things too.
^It's the same reason I never pay any attention to paparazzi gossip of Hollywood actors' private lives.
Anyway, onto some lighter topics. Are people aware of how good Krissy Lynn is with a strap on? Here's another entry in my browsing of older Brazzers scenes. This scene is between Krissy Lynn and Jade Baker, titled "Finishing School Of Fucking," released 9-12-2018. Unlike the previous scenes I've cited, this one is almost devoid of kissing or oral sex. The highlight of the scene is Krissy taking a strap-on to Jade, wielding it very well.
As the title suggests, this is some sort of, well, finishing school of fucking. Krissy plays the predatory older lesbian with appropriate swagger. One of the most remarkable aspect of the scene is that this tease/setup lasts 15 minutes out of a 45 minutes scene.
Krissy first takes Jade from behind, thrusting her hips lustily. She knows exactly how to use that thing.
Jade then has quite a bit of fun riding Krissy. Then it's missionary where Jade also rubs her own clit hard.
This is the April scene from Lesbian X between Sophia Burns and Dharma Jones. Overall it's not nearly as strong as the earlier scenes this year, but still not bad by any means. There are quite a few parts that I don't' much care for (like 69), but I'll just highlight the parts I really like.
Going back to the high glam of the first two scenes of this year (Aidra Fox and Kylie Rocket, Freya Parker and Katrina Colt) and away from the more "grungy" look of last month between Bella Roland and Olivia Madison, the scene opens with the two women framed by the gorgeous setting sun. Dharma leans into the touch by Sophia. They kiss, the lick, and touch each other. There's also an excellent piano score playing in the background. They look fantastic together.
The best part of the scene is Sophia's oral sex on Dharma. Later she uses a finger together with her mouth. This part looks great.
I also like the part where Dharma eats Sophia, though her "side" angle appears to me a little awkward. Later Dharma sits on Sophia's face, who buries her mouth inside Dharma deliciously.
^^Amber in the SapphoFilms scene you might know better as Nesty, longtime model. She's worked for most of the studios in the EU. She's also moved up the mgt ladder at SF.
SF is an Italian co. Founder/owner/director/producer is Jean Garian. The co has been around for over two decades. A mix of am-models and pro-models. Many more am-models were used in the early films, pro-models brought in later on to build an audience and bring in the $$$$. The same process you see at AW, GOW, Ersties.
Garian has directed most of the films but he has added some female directors including family members. The co tries to push a female-friendly angle in it's PR. The co also pushes the angle that "these are REAL Lesbians having REAL lesbian sex". lololololololol. It's so ridiculously comical considering the list of models who have shot for SF.
Some of the well known models who have shot for SF: Nesty, Zazie Skymm, Sarah Cute, Alexa Tomas, Vinna Reed/Crystal Caitlin (pre boob disfiguration), Antonia Sainz, Cayla Lyons (pre boob disfiguration), Amirah Adara. One of the most recent models at SF is gorgeous Kate Quinn.
Are some of the am-models lesbians? Perhaps, maybe one or two slipped in. Are ANY of the pro-models lesbians? lolololololololololololol.
Most of the pro-models use a different name when they shoot for SF. Nesty is Amber. Sarah Cute is Cristal. Zazie Skymm is Alyssia. Antonia Sainz is Brianna and on and on. Perhaps this dumm-dumm affectation is finally being put to rest. Kate Quinn is Kate at SF. Wow, how sensible.
So, what are SF films like?
+'s: The pace of most scenes is very relaxed. Most scenes are an hour or more. The eye candy appeal is def there. Some of the models are lovely. And, unlike a Bree Mill's flick, SF models aren't usually weighed down with fifty pounds of clown makeup. The sex usually takes place on a bed or couch; not on a table or kitchen counter or hanging from a chandelier. Some of the models actually have have skills.
-'s: The direction/choreography is woefully heavy handed. Every scene is micro-managed to the nth degree. Every second of every scene the director makes sure that you know that the models are performing for the camera. Jean Garian has some rather comical notions of what we do in bed. The tribbing is hilariously stupid, most of which involves the models trying to perfectly align their clits. Garian is obsessed with showing the model's clits. If you get off watching models go thru acrobatic contortions just so a director can get what he thinks is a perfect 10 second shot of a vaj, then this is the G/G co for you.
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Posted - Apr 18 2023 : 11:46AM
^I have liked some Sappho Films stuff, but at the same time, 100% agree with this. I would also say that even though the scissoring is dumb, overall the content is a lot less stupid-looking than what the U.S. sites put out, on the whole.
I dunno why U.S. sites are so immature but none of the company site shit over here is for adults.
It took me a while to figure out who the brunette is, thankfully someone on twitter figured it out for me, Anya Krey, and yes I'm very well aware of who the blonde is, the magnificent Nesty!
Tremendous amount of info about SF you got there really appreciate it, what I love the most about them is the pure raw sex on display, the tribbing is completely over the top contrived but I love it! I used to have a correspondence with them back when they sold DVD's, my goal was to eventually buy every DVD they had available at the time which was I think about 200 or so, unfortunately their payment processor refused to sell any more porn content suddenly, Now only available at PPV sites but picture quality is not bad actually for many of the HD videos like the one above.
Bella, we're the perfect example of "to each her own". lol
The tribbing/scissoring in studio G/G just irks me to no end. I know I shouldn't let it, but it does.
As much as I'm a Debbie-Downer about the trib/scissor in SF scenes, at least at SF they try to make physical contact with each other. Unlike in many US studio scenes where the models just hyperactively bounce all over the bed like it's a trampoline...making absolutely no contact with each other. They're basically fucking air, not each other. It has great (unintentional) comedic value, very little erotic value.
My wife will snark during US scenes "ahh yes, we've now reached the obligatory part of the scene where the coked-up Energizer bunnies spaz out for 1.75-2.25 minutes. Time to hit the FF button or grab a drink from the fridge."
We're in opposition on this one - I want nothing, nothing at all, to do with the put on identity that is the norm that they wear in scenes scene in and scene out. I desire greatly to see that mask be tossed to the side, to see the real people and their real selves making authentic and sensual love. I'm not interested in seeing them acting, nor do the stories matter much to me. I want to see something real, with no pretentiousness, no masking of their inner self. I'm sure it takes a lot to be that brave, to be that vulnerable even, I'm sure not many can do it (just look at the state of G/G as we know it, look at porn as we know it) but just the same it's what I want to see. When I see something close, or see it, that's what moves me, that's when it becomes something more than just getting our collective rocks off. All the masks, the keeping of their inner selves private and separate, that's all barriers to the true art that adult entertainment could be.
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Posted - Apr 18 2023 : 6:04PM
Anything else about U.S. lesbian porn throw you off?
For me it's the constant humming noises that performers do as soon as the "you're my stepmom/I've never done sex before" dialogue ends. It usually goes on the whole time sex is happening, except when they are saying "oh my God fuuuuuck". I can't not hear it because it is so invasive, and I've yet to hear a rational explanation for why porn producers like it so much.
For me it's the use for the same girls over and over again. Nancy A is in almost everything, which would be fine if we were talking Malena Morgan-level chops.
I hear ya, the screaming and yelling and whooping and hollering is the biggest turn-off, I've often suggested they dubb the sound of a tennis match over porn so my neighbors think I'm watching tennis!
I love girls grinding but like you not into banging, or bouncing as you describe, I love when the camera is back to capture their entire bodies together, legs spread submitting to each other, even if as they say it's really a man's thing why women trib in porn, weather a woman gets anything out of it or not, for me it's the aesthetics, it's very enjoyable to watch, and Sappho Films does it best, also ALS (All Ladies Shaved) have some excellent trib action, but too much toy use with ALS, the really great thing about Sappho Films...Toy free.
Same girls and too much of a similar feel between scenes. Don't get me wrong though,Ultra/Wow older stuff is still king,some of the most sensual lesbian porn,right now,their really losing their grip.
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Posted - Apr 18 2023 : 11:13PM
^Seems like they are doing the thing all the sites are doing, reducing the content to overplayed gimmicks, which in their case are slow motion, performers constantly staring at the camera, and moan-sound tracks.
EVERY squirt in EVERY squirting scene is definitive proof of a Real Female Orgasm (tm). Dontcha know that by now? Just how orgasmy the scene was is directly correlated to how many times the mop bucket was emptied while cleaning the set after the scene. It's statistics!
Posted - Apr 11 2023 : 2:26PM
