^^Spray Distance? There ya go complicating things by needlessly bringing even more physics into it. I've developed an elegant, flawless method for measuring Real Female Orgasms (tm) in G/G scenes. And you want to keep adding on and turn it into some kinda Rube Goldberg monstrosity.
You hard-science guys are always pullin' this kinda shit. Ya never know when to say when. Ya never know when to leave well enough alone. Cue the Ian Malcolm could/should quote while I look for another cliche. ;)
Distance, volume...repression, recession...it's all the same thing, man.
^Yeah, that's about the only thing on the Adulttime calendar right now that looks halfway decent. And maybe, but probably not, the Siri and Haley Reed comedy video.
Gratuitously snide remarks aside, this is a very informative post. Thanks. I did not know about this studio before and will take a look at some of their scenes. I'm very intrigued by their hour long (!) scene between Amirah Adara and Candee Licious.
A distributor of physical DVDs? It's not a surprise they are no longer in business. I was a customer of theirs a long time ago and actively participated in their forums back in the day.
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Posted - Apr 21 2023 : 12:41AM
Things may be on the verge of getting VERY interesting when it comes to lesbian porn again as she is not looking to shoot the classic MILF/teen scenario.
Same here, purchased many rare one of a kind videos from them over the years, especially the 00's with TNV, early Abby Winters, in fact I think their the ones who put AW on the map, they steered Viv Thomas in the right direction also I seem to recall, it was the greatest archive of lesbian video in the world really a shame it couldn't continue to exist for that reason alone, and the forum was the greatest repository of information of lesbian content, it was the library of Alexandria of lesbian porn which like the real thing has burn't down to the ground loosing all the ancient lesbian manuscripts to dust in the wind!
Ah the memories. The very expensive memories. I've ordered DVDs from them that cost about half a year's subscription of Adult Time. But you are right, there are good memories too: early Viv Thomas, TNV, etc. I also got some of the only JAV stuff I've ever watched from them. As for the forum, it was (at least going by perhaps rose-tinted glasses) surprisingly positive and spam free.
I saw Eve Sweet for the first time in a recent Viv Thomas scene. It's with Foxy Alissa (the recap is posted in the VT thread). I find her very attractive and like her performance. This is another scene with her from last year from Sexy Hub, this time with Ivi Rein. It's not the best scene ever by any means, but it's fun and very sexy, with Eve playing the "dominant" teacher role really well.
The setup is the classic workout in tight clothing. Small but in charge Eve bosses Ivi around, and spanks her pretty hard. Also, I'm a sucker for pretty girls in glasses.
A very sexy moment: Ivi sticks out her tongue tentatively, and Eve just grabs the back of her head and shoves Ivi's mouth onto her own pussy. Later there are two more nice moments: Eve twirls her fingers to teach Ivi to swirl her tongue on her clit, and she also puckers her mouth to show Ivi how to suck on her clit.
Then the teacher shows Ivi how it's done. She also fingers Ivi hard, and later Ivi gets to practice this too.
This comes from an exchange on the Viv Thomas thread, but it's also inspired by the above discussion about LezLoveVideo -- but is this year not the 20th anniversary of Pink Velvet 1? And I looked up Girlfriends Films: Women Seeking Women Vol. 1 came out either 2003 or 2002, so close enough to 20th year. I feel like -- at least for myself and those who believe the significance of these -- this deserves some commemoration, no?
Lesbian porn is such a weird little corner of culture to put so much of one's time in. Yet having done so, we might as well treat it with some degree of seriousness. If so, then that was truly a transformative moment that should be celebrated.
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^^I recently watched the new scene starring Eve Sweet and Kate Quinn "My House Guests" and it was really good. Eve reminds me so much of Eve Angel and not only for the name, but also due to the strong resemblance between the two actresses. Their looks, performances and moans are too similar. It is funny that in this scene Jo makes an appereance as an indiscreet voyeur. I hope they have a scene together one day because it would be full circle in some way.
About the anniversary of Pink Velvet, yesterday I just started to watch scenes from Viv Thomas productions. God, how good they still are. I try not be too critical of lesbian porn scenes these days, but there is no comparison to the great work Thomas put in those films. The perfect shots with close ups, the great passion between the actresses and, who cares, the anal fingering. Just yesterday I also watched a threesome scene from Girlsway with Kenzie Taylor, Kimmy Kim and Scarlett Sage and it was just shameful how the scene was, including the anal. Compare it with the Eve Angel and Sandra Shine scene from Pink Velvet 3. Even if for some it's not their best work (to me is a classic), the chemistry, the direction, how the scene develops... I can't believe how amazing is.
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The era when Girlfriends Films, Viv Thomas and Abby Winters and a host of others were getting started in the early 00's, I think 02 or 03 are the critical years, I call the golden era, Pink Velvet #1 was a collaboration with Lezlove, before the influence of Lezlove Video Viv Thomas was more af what you may call a glamour site, their videos were somewhat soft-core I seem to recall, LLV literally made them what they are today, it's also the case with Abby Winters, their first truly realistic masterpiece was a film titled Girls on Film released around that critical time, 02 or 03, I'm going on memory here, basically a film created at the behest of LLV, and it set the stage for what followed with AW.
The influence of Lezlove Video can't be overstated in creating the modern lesbian erotica we enjoy today, I may never have heard of studios like Thursday Night Video, or Little Eva, or Greywood Video if it weren't for Lezlove, they were very honest, they often gave critical reviews of videos they were trying to sell, trying to steer the producers to do better, get rid of the problems which plagued lesbian porn at the time like acknowledging the camera, or guy talking behind the camera, more better dialogue between the models, I coud go on and on really.
It was literally the absolute most complete adult lesbian video archive in the world, nothing came close, damn shame it's gone.
^^^Re: the Kenzie/Scarlett/Kimmy: the adulttime audience loved that shit lmao.
Someone talk me into finally cancelling Girlfriendsfilms/Adulttime. The content is extremely awful, but I have irrational fear of missing out and it's my last day to stop the rebill lmao
Now that you mention it, Eve Sweet does have similar attributes to Eva Angel, one of the icons, a legend! Speaking of Jo, I think Pink Velvet #1 was my introduction to Jo, her beauty stunned and amazed me, when the video began on the train, I couldn't believe I was about to witness the most beautiful woman in the world have lesbian sex, and by the way, these videos get better with age, they should remaster and reissue them for old time sake, not convert them to 1080, keep the same aspect ratio but better image quality, maybe add some behind the scenes and out takes, in fact I would love to see a reissue of all early VT vids because I didn't get them all unfortunately, before they went OOP.
I think you meant Eve Angel (you mentioned Eva Angel) right? I thought she was the most beautiful woman in porn. Just an exotic sculpture of a goddess on screen. Her and Jo who was also incredibly beautiful had many scenes together. I remember that train scene! What I take from Eve Angel's performances is always lackluster. I would always be excited to see her but she would always just feel distant. Jo actually seemed really attracted to her but I felt she wouldn't match that energy and attraction Jo had for her.
A lot of that era of Viv Thomas was mixed with the highs of seeing such beautiful women (like supermodel level) but the sex being just really going through the motions. There were some standouts like Sandra Shine, Blue Angel and many times Jo. Sandra Shine actually did a few scenes with Elexis Monroe who was an AMAZING performer but coming from the pinnacle Girlfriend Films era. As a side not whenever Elexis had sex I never doubted it one bit. All the scenes from that era with Elexis Monroe were fucking astonishing. It felt like she deprived herself of sex until her scenes.
Back to Eve Angel, even though I felt disappointed with her sex on screen I would still keep coming back because just damn she was 1 in a billion as far as beauty imo.
I dislike the term "golden age" since this implies everything is downhill since. First, I don't think this is true. Second, this is literally what every generation says about the next ("back in my day..."). Nevertheless, it's certainly fair to say that the videos of that era were a transformative moment. Well, that's certainly my argument.
But moving on from this abstract stuff... Girls On Film! JFC I feel old. OK weird flex time.
Top 3: Viv Thomas videos. The first two, I think, came out before Pink Velvet. You talked about VT used to be a glamour/softcore, how LLV "made" VT what it is today and I think there's a lot of truth to that. On that "Sandy Babe Abroad" DVD, it literally says "2000/2001 Playboy TV UK." It's not softcore, but certainly has that flavor.
Oldtimers like us wax nostalgic about Pink Velvet, because it was really the proverbial "a bolt from the blue." When things change, you expect them to be gradual, to transform into their "final form" step by step. Yet Pink Velvet seems to just appear in a finished, perfected form: amazing beauty, amazing kissing, amazing sex. Looking at those earlier Sandy and Jo videos, however, you realize PV does have progenitors/predecessors, it's just that they are not as well known.
Middle 3: the early Abby Winters, and a Greywood production featuring Jenna Haze and Aurora Snow, two very, very mainstream stars.
Lower 3: Kaylynn and Ann Marie (another two mainstream stars) is a personal favorite of mine. "Elaine's Crush" is imo the finest thing TNV ever made, featuring the mind-boggling beauty Corinna. The last one is kinda fun, featuring a bunch of 90s star doing some of the best pre-VT, pre-GFF lesbian sex.
The Jenna/Aurora scene, the Kaylynn/Ann Marie scene, and to a lesser extent the "Women Loving Women" video did hint at how American lesbian porn had plenty of talent, but was constrained/distorted by direction.
After a series of yearly subscriptions to GW & then AdultTime, I left. I just couldn't keep giving them money for so much recycled product. Yes, FOMO is real. Just don't like what it has become.
^^ No, I didn't like when AdultTime significantly reduced creating their own scenes g/g & became an outlet for product made by others. The yearly price I was paying was more than reasonable, just didn't like what the site has become. My normal rule is, are you getting enough content for the price? But, in this case, annoyance ended my time there.
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Posted - Apr 22 2023 : 5:17PM
^Oh, gotcha. Funny enough, they did do a price-hike recently, end of last year or beginning of this year. That's the other reason I haven't canceled already. I get basically all the Gamma gg stuff for like $95, grandfathered in. If they could just let cut down on the retarded behavior during the sex and allow the performers to act like people, it would be a no-brainer to keep the subscription. Adulttime still puts out more GG content than anyone else but man do the producers direct them to act stupid as hell.
Yes I meant "Eve" Angel, little typo on my part, There is a particularly hot scene by Purzel in a video titled "Best of Lesbo-Teeny's #9" with a blonde who goes by Candy, (Purzel never provides the name of the models) only one draw back a gigantic dildo appears but overall the scene is really great, every Eve Angel fan should have this video.
Truly an epic collection of films you laid out on the table there, I have those and they are so important to me I keep them in a safe, I actually went out and bought a safe to put these highly valuable and super rare DVD's away from prying eye's! Maybe I should use the term magical era when describing the time when finally producers began creating lesbian film with a sense of realism, before 02-03, maybe a little earlier, many lesbian scenes were just a token added to an otherwise hard core market in the VHS era, another thing around that time VHS gave way to DVD, another reason I refer to it as the golden era, golden era does not mean everything is down hill from there, it means a new beginning, as you say a transitional moment, away from the horrible quality for the most part lesbian genre porn from the 90's, horrible image quality because of VHS, no sense of realism or even attempt thereof, I'm not saying every lesbian scene was bad before 02-03, there were a few that had very high production standards actually, but the music dubbed over all the time, remember that? Spike heel shoes all the time, I remember vividly when finally, FINALLY, lesbian porn began to appear without the damn music, without the damn high heel shoes, without the guy standing in the corner, but you know something, I don't mind a little high heel shoes here and there now, sometimes I even don't mind a little music dubbed over, those kind of things get better with age, but not the fucking guy standing in the corner of the room, that is really the Antichrist of a lesbian film to have a guy (no offence) standing there looking at the girls, it happened a few times in the 90's, very rare now thank God. Oh and I forgot to mention the dreaded dildos, almost every lesbian video had the fucking dildos, Jesus fucking Christ the fucking dildos were a virus in the 90's, no disrespect to the dildo manufactures, you know dildos are widely used in our private lives, but I can't stand them in a lesbian film, another reason I call it the golden era, they got rid of the fucking dildos.
^ I remember the music. But music can be good if they are actually good, and are used to set the scene or mood rather than over the sex itself. Back in the day I enjoyed the jazz of Andrew Blake. These days I've heard music that I like on All Her Luv, Sex Art, etc.
- I remember the heels. Yeah good riddance.
- I remember the dildos. It's uncertain why they were so heavily used. Perhaps it's really out of some misguided ideological commitment to phallic penetration, perhaps it's just out of the impracticality of fingering due to the long nails. It should be noted that even in modern porn, fingering is not done that often since the nail problem still persists to some extent.
- Speaking of dildos, modern scenes have mostly abandoned vibrators too. It seems to me this is a case of guilt by association. I think they can be used to good effect, as long as they are used as complement to oral sex or fingering.
- Something you didn't mention: kissing and foreplay. Those years certainly were a Rubicon as far as those are concerned. It's notable that very first scene in the very first Pink Velvet is a purely makeout/kissing scene with no follow-on sex. I don't know if Viv Thomas intended as such, but it almost felt like a call-out to the rest of the industry: here, take a look at this, we think viewers will really enjoy this. And he's right.
Thanks for that recommendation. I tried searching for it on VOD sites and a google search and can't find this video anywhere. It'll probably be really hard to find especially since they didn't label their names. I'll keep trying to find it.
Do you have any luck with jeedoo.com? here it's apparently available but I've never been able to purchase anything from this site, if you manage to get this dvd please let me know how you did it thanks. sorry I don't know how to hotlink yet! And one more thing, you have to get two DVD's to complete this scene, I know it sounds confusing, I'll explain later, get both Lesbo Teeny's #9, and Jack Hammers Fotzchenparade 22 if you can.
Here's another dvd with Eve & Candy on the cover, but I'm not sure what's on this DVD, it may not have the complete scene here, I would try to get the one from Jeedoo first.
That site doesn't offer downloads it seems? It's hard to find sites that have high quality dvd rips of these movies. If you do find it, it's usually extremely low quality.
Yep, the VOD sites never have good picture quality with standard definition video for some reason, that's why I posted the information above for the DVD's, I wouldn't waste my time with a low quality download, get the DVD and rip it to your hard drive, then trade or sell the DVD to someone else if you want.
OK I know I've said elsewhere that I don't want to speculate about the sexuality of the women in adult videos, that this is akin to gossiping about the private lives of Hollywood actors. But sometimes, well, how can I resist?
This is Vivian Foxx. Note the contrast between the nails on her index and middle fingers vs the rest of her fingers. As kids say these days, that's pretty sus. 😄
^Oh yeah Vivian is awesome. Aya once asked me what my top 10 were. I gave a list of 20-30 names. But that list just keeps growing and growing. Just within the last week or so I'm adding Skylar Snow, Vivian Foxx, Lovita Fate.
As for those nails, after some casual browsing, it turns it's a real thing according to the Los Angeles Times: they are called queer manicure, or lesbian manicure, or femmicure. Just to note, there's nothing wrong with long nails either. One lesbian interviewed called them her "strap grabbers."
^Leads credence to the theory that Vivian is no stranger to being with women off-camera, because it's not something you really see other performers sporting.
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Posted - Apr 24 2023 : 2:51PM
I mean, she has talked about messing with women on Twitter. That's mainly how I am following performers these days, sticking to the ones claiming some level of gayness lol
Haven't checked in this thread for a while, but good to see everyone's still here lolYeah wouldn't be surprised, Vivian is awesome at g/g, really killing it.
Not sure the picture quality because like you said this is an old movie and they usually have substandard quality on the VOD sites, and I don't understand why that is quite frankly.
Sorry for the dicks, the picture of Eve and Candy kneeling together gets my heart pounding!
There was a time I remember Purzel had a subscription site that one could download both video and photo sets, unfortunately I missed out on this opportunity, I would've loved to have the photos too but like so many the site is history.
Like my review of Brazzers scenes, this is going to be another occasional series on interesting scenes from Reality Kings (not sure if they are still branded as part of the We Live Together). Also like those Brazzers scenes, this is going to be based on the cast, and will focus on the parts of the scenes that I like. First up, it's a scene that came out on Oct 20, 2020, titled Self-Defense, between Savannah Sixx and Scarlit Scandal. I'm mostly here for Scarlit.
I know sex-fight is a thing, but this is not really a sex fight scene. This is a split-screen montage opening of judo/taekwondo/kungfu/whatever combined with sex as a sort of foreplay?
After that brief montage, we pretty much immediately jump into sex. I rarely comment on makeup, but at the beginning that lipstick is really, really thick. After a kiss, it looks like lower half of Savannah's face is bleeding.
I'm watching this scene mostly for Scarlit. I've only seen her in soft and sensual type of scenes, so this is kinda fun where she spanks Savannah, takes a strap-on masterfully to her, and just overall "dominates" hers.
Unlike the "mainstream" of g/g scenes, oral sex is not necessarily the main element of the scene. But when it does occur, you can see Scarlit looks gorgeously doing it.
She later goes back to strap-on in the missionary position, again looking great, thrusting her hips like an expert. One weird part is while Scarlit is doing this, Savannah is busy suck on a hand held dildo? Anyway, later Scarlit sits on Savannah's face, who hungrily buries on tongue and mouth in Scarlit.
When Savannah goes for oral sex, like Scarlit she looks great for the most part. The only part that makes me wince a bit is when she uses her fingers. Those nails are just too dangerous.
Posted - Apr 18 2023 : 11:59PM
