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Lezzyist Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 4 2023 : 11:54AM
I think the "Viewed More by Women Compared to Men" chart from Pornhub is comparing how much of the male and female audiences watch lesbian porn. We know there is a difference of 69% and I am going to make up the other two numbers just to create an example.
I believe this chart is saying if 20% of the male Pornhub audience watches lesbian porn, then 89% of the female audience watches it.
I don't think this specific data point gives us the gender makeup of the lesbian porn audience.
Back when Girlsway was a separate entity, Bree Mills was asked what % of the subscribers were men. She replied 75/80%, something in that neighborhood. The idea that women make up the majority of g/g porn viewers is highly, highly unlikely. As the poster above me states, you are misreading the stats.
I do remember reading something like that. However, keep in mind that's subscriber, i.e. paying customers. Pornhub audience are not paying customers. Which also means it's a far bigger audience. The most popular lesbian videos on adult time are viewed tens of thousands times; the most popular lesbian videos on pornhub are viewed tens of millions of times.
Also, I believe my reading of the stats is correct. Lezzyist's reading is plausible for 69%, but makes no sense if you look at previous years' stats.
p.s. I misread 2014's numbers. I'll update the excel sheet later. The rest of the numbers are correct after double checking.
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Posted - Apr 4 2023 : 4:55PM
That 2015 chart says women searched "400% more often" for "lesbian" than men did. I think this means (again following the ratio but making up numbers for example) when men went to Pornhub 100 times, they might have looked up lesbian 15 of those times, whereas when women went to Pornhub 100 times, they might have looked up lesbian 75 of those times, 400% more often than men.
That would also explain the variance in the chart. A 400% difference in one year that declines to a 168% difference the very next year suggests an abrupt and radical shift in behavior or attitudes...unless we are inadvertently comparing two different stats.
Anyone has seen this scene on Queer Crush or is a sub on there and have seen their scenes? If so how is it?
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Lezzyist Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 4 2023 : 7:08PM
^Queercrush scenes have started to come to AdultDVDEmpire Unlimited, so I have seen a couple, including one with Alex Coal and Electra Rayne, the site's owner.
I love and prefer unscripted sex and the few GG scenes I have seen from the brand are nice, but the content is heavily penis and/or phallus-focused. Very penetration-oriented.
A feminine GG, female/vulva-oriented site in the same format would be amazing.
^ Yeah from what I know you can buy individual scenes from the site and for this particular scene you can get it from Alison and Casey from their onlyfans.
I might have to check some of their scenes out then especially this one. But I also saw scenes with Sinn Sage as well as Adalind Gray.
First, I have updated original post with the corrected table (the 400% was my misread, it's 155%). But I'll put it in this reply too for convenience.
Second, it seems there are two interpretations. Using 69% as an example:
- Mine: for a given lesbian video, out of 100 views of it, 63% of such views are done by female viewers, 37% are by male viewers (1.69 x 37 = 63) - Yours: for every 100 male visitors to pornhub, assume A% viewed a lesbian video; then for every 100 female visitors, 1.69xA% viewed a lesbian video.
I'll readily concede that given the ambiguity of the report's language, your interpretation is plausible. However, when discussing the overall most viewed category -- "lesbian" being mostly #1 -- the report certainly is talking about "views per video." Given that male visitors (significantly outnumbering female) have never ranked lesbian higher than 4, given the shrinking gap between the two gender's preference, and given the rising percentage of female visitors, I think my definition offers a better fit when explaining the overall high ranking of "lesbian" as a category.
This is the most recent March scene on Lesbian X with Bella Rolland and Olivia Madison. Overall it's a pretty hot scene, although it's quite different from the previous two scenes (Freya/Katrina, Aidra/Kylie) in that it's quite anal focused. In this respect it's somewhat a throwback to the old Lesbian X style, except no toys.
These two are both tall and beautiful. They start in an old elevator and remain standing for quite a while. The kissing and foreplay are hot but quite short. Olivia immediately drops to her knees and uses her mouth on Bella. I like how she grabs Bella's breasts while eating her out.
She teases Bella's anus with just one finger, and then thoroughly licks Bella. Bella later turns around and eats Olivia beautifully, alas the regular oral sex are all pretty short in this scene.
Bella then uses an interesting technique: while sucking on Olivia's clit, she uses one finger to tease Olivia's vagina, and another to tease her anus. They then move to a really uncomfortable-looking blanket on a bare concrete floor, where Bella buries her face between Olivia's cheeks. No more teases: she first uses one fingers, then two to thrust into Olivia.
Olivia returns the favor with one finger in Bella's butt while rubbing Bella's clit. In the sexiest position, Bella thrusts two fingers into Olivia's butt while sucking on her clit hard.
I've skipped over a couple of sections that, to me, are just poorly executed (face sitting and tribbing). The rest, like I said, is very good for what this scene is clearly trying to accomplish -- toyless lesbian anal sex.
"Many's the person missed the opportunity to say nothing, and lost much because of it." 1935 Posts 8/22
Posted - Apr 6 2023 : 5:04AM
So, the new Girlsway scene with Ryan Reid and Maddy May. I was dreading this scene as it's a scene based around my most hated lesbian sex position, the 69. I have to say though, this is a pretty damn good scene. Ryan and Maddy work so well together, they act as I've they've been close friends for years (I wouldn't be surprised if they have). Maddy is just phenomenal and while I haven't seen much from Ryan I'm inclined to go back to check out her other stuff (not the biggest fan of her tattoos though, they seem a bit random). We have quite a bit of spit play (if that's your thing) and while there obviously is 69 action it doesn't dominate the scene and there is variety in the positions, including a sideways 69 (not sure what it's called). The direction and camerawork is nothing to write home about though, there are a few times when you can't see much because of hair in the face, camera out of position etc. Not the biggest fan of Michael and Siouxsie as a directing team, some of their scenes are actually BAD so tbf this is definitely an improvement. It seems to me like they want to be the new Casey and Eli of AdultTime. Good luck. There's a really cool moment, one you probably won't even notice, there's a bit where they're both spitting on the toy they're using and when Maddy spits on it the air from it blows Ryan's hair out of her face. Don't know why that stood out to me but it did. So yeah, I would say check it out. Also, bonus points for them keeping their socks on, I love that shit.
^ the socks staying on the whole time is an automatic skip for me, as well as a thumbs down with their rating system. Foot coverings = lowest possible rating available. Also good to know it's by Vegas and Co., their camerawork is brutal as it's filled with nonsensical Dutch Angles and wobbly handheld, their work is also an automatic skip for me now. It's wild to me that it's so hard to find a steady view in porn anymore.
I'll be checking out this scene, thanks for the recommendation. I also think Maddy is great. Ryan has previously not been very good in her gg scenes imo she doesn't seem into women that much but I know certain matchups can change a performance for the better.
Oh and It seems it's not that popular but I also love when they keep their socks on for some reason. I think it's hot.
I agree, sneakers/socks are great. Any scenes you like in particular with the women wearing sneakers or just socks? One I can think of is the pretty recent scene I think from last year with Scarlett Sage and Emily Willis for Adult Time. They both started out with socks on but later on Scarlett took hers off but Emily kept hers on throughout the scene. Pretty good scene in general too. The most excited I'd seen Emily in a gg scene.
An older one I like is Jenna Sativa and Alison Rey called It's a sis thing.
"Many's the person missed the opportunity to say nothing, and lost much because of it." 1935 Posts 8/22
Posted - Apr 6 2023 : 10:07AM
^There must be some but the most recent one I can think of would be Leana Lovings doing it in her girlsway scene with Aften Opal and Lauren Phillips.
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Posted - Apr 6 2023 : 11:02AM
There's this stupid stuck-under-the-bed scene Adulttime did featuring Khloe Khapri, who I like a lot for whatever reason. Sticking out from under the bed, cute socks on, no bottoms on. It was just the hottest thing to me for some reason lol
"Many's the person missed the opportunity to say nothing, and lost much because of it." 1935 Posts 8/22
Posted - Apr 6 2023 : 11:13AM
^Yeah, that was with Rebecca Vanguard and Maya Woulfe. That stuck thing IS stupid but I did have some good scenes. The one with Brooklyn Gray and Sabina Rouge was really excellent.
Ha found the Emily scene! Good eye on you sir or madam, since those are really tiny socks.
I certainly agree with you that Emily seems excited. IMO this is the best Emily scene I've seen. Her beautiful oral and her enthusiastic riding of Scarlett's thigh are fantastic. In just about all the other scenes I've seen of her, it seems her performances are just too staged and awkward. Given that she can clearly perform in a more natural, more pleasurable way, perhaps it's more a matter of bad direction, or somehow she and Scarlett just have some unique chemistry.
Amazing right? I've seen Emily in so many gg scenes and 99.9% of them seem phoned in BUT this particular one stands out from the rest. More directors need to do whatever magic sauce they did as far as direction or pairing as they did here.
Scarlett is also a good performer so perhaps she made it exciting for Emily.
Either way chemistry makes a huge difference and it could just be that.
I'm starting a new discussion here about a topic which seems to be hugely underrated or at least underdiscussed. What do you think are some of the best post-sex cuddling in a scene? I'll start with almost all of the scenes from 'we like girls' project.
"Many's the person missed the opportunity to say nothing, and lost much because of it." 1935 Posts 8/22
Posted - Apr 7 2023 : 2:15PM
I had a look and it's not that I'm thinking of. It IS that scene but it's a bit where Emily is going down on Scarlett and Scarlett takes her sock off and puts her leg inbetween Emily's legs and rubs her clit with her toe. Still a cool moment though, it even took Emily by surprise.
Funny there was a sneaker thread (specifically looking for scenes with Chuck Taylor-style sneakers ) here about six months ago - I contributed a few lesbian scenes, but the thread fizzled out too early:
I have to be honest,the UltraWow/Sensual.love formula is kinda wearing thin on me,aka,its getting boring. Too many of the same gurls,too many similar looking scenes and some of these scenes are just lacking in passion. I've just been watching old Sexart/Vivthomas stuff lately(both catalogs have great stuff btw,their new stuff is still lacking imo),everything else is still either too carny,unsexy or just not sensual/erotic enough.
This is a scene from Straplez between Alexis Crystal and Veronica Leal that came out on March 23. As of this writing, it's rated very highly by the viewers at 9.4. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this scene, featuring two of my favorites. Other than the somewhat boring setting (the standard room for most Straplez scene), I can't really find anything to criticize. One really interesting thing about it is its long duration at ~40 minutes. This gives it the opportunity to explore all three sections (foreplay, oral, feeldoe) at a leisurely pace.
In keeping with the mild BDSM flavor of the site, this opens with Veronica strung up by her wrists. Alexis walks in and playfully teases Veronica by gliding her fingers up her ribs. She kisses Veronica, squeezes her breasts, and rubs her pussy. This entire foreplay lasts a long 10 minutes. Really sexy.
Then it's oral sex from Veronica to Alexis. Just gorgeous.
Then we turn around and it's equally beautiful. Really well done by both, fully confirming my belief in them as two of the best at oral sex. This reciprocal oral part lasts 15 minutes, which means up to the point, it's already an excellent 25 minute scene.
Then Alexis uses the feeldoe. Love the missionary position, love the kissing. At the end I think Alexis actually has an orgasm fucking Veronica.
Then Veronica gets on top and rides Alexis like there's no tomorrow. She literally dances on that feeldoe, moving not just mechanically up and down but changing frequency and rolling her hips on occasion. And you can see her having fun, laughing, sucking on Alexis's fingers. The scene ends perfectly with her orgasm. This back and forth feeldoe use together lasts another long and luxurious 15 minutes.
Is there such a thing as a good Brazzers lesbian scene? Let's find out! I plan to pick out some of the more promising scenes, based on cast, and given them a serious look. By and large this means hopping on a time machine, since most of the more recent contents look pretty terrible. Needless to say, "good" or "terrible" will largely depend on my personal, subjective tastes.
This is "Prude And Prejudice" with Gina Valentina and India Summer, released on 2/7/2018.
India is unhappy that her daughter is being led astray by her slutty friend Gina -- she found a huge strap on dildo in her daughter's room. The way India is holding it by her fingertips, like she's trying to touch it as little as possible, is hilarious. Gina taunts India is just a prude. India, of course, responds by strapping it on and promptly shoving it down Gina's throat. Well.
India's strap-on dildo action is great. Love the look of concentration on her face. The action lasts a long and nice four minutes.
There's actually no foreplay or kissing before the strap-on action. It's only afterward that there's a little bit of it. Then India goes to lick and suck on Gina's clit. It looks great.
She then uses her left hand on Gina, who wants it harder, so India switches to her presumably dominant right hand. Gina then reciprocates with excellent oral of her own.
Gina then combines it with her own fingering gorgeously. Finally she rubs India hard while kissing her.
I do miss foreplay and kissing, and some parts -- like a semi-69 and tribbing -- are just badly done. However, what's there is in fact very hot. Gina's silly miniskirt aside, the makeup, costume, lighting, camerawork are all nicely done to make both women look really good.
^Ooof, surfing the Brazzers archive to find good lesbian content? Best of luck to you my friend. I let my subscription there expire a year or two ago, but if I remember correctly there were like a grand total of 3-4 or so G/G scenes that I found to be legitimately very good. And now that I think about it, 3 of them had Abella Danger . "Dirty Little Gamer" with Kimmy Granger, "Yoga Freaks Episode 9" with Brenna Sparks, and "Fight Me Bitch" with Jenna Foxx. Aside from that, I think "Dana vs. Dana" with Dana Dearmond and Dana Vespoli was one of the few I actually was excited about.
^Hey thanks for the comment and I'll keep an eye out for those scenes you mentioned. But I actually really like that scene between India and Gina. I'm going in with the assumption that whatever else may be involved, as long as you have good performers, the fundamentals -- convincingly pleasuring another woman -- are going to be there. Let's see how long that holds up.
GFF was often icky with their scenarios (and constantly showing girls on the toilet).
But there was an opening to a movie where Dee was making a few girls watch a porno on TV, and the way she kept looking over at them was so creepy.
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Lezzyist Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 10 2023 : 1:34AM
^Content today needs more normal human behavior in it. Companies and fans are so enraptured by performers saying and doing dumb shit constantly in these videos, and it makes me literally feel my brain cells dying 99% of the time. I don't mind shots of women on the toilet or displaying other normal human behaviors.
Conversely, and ironically, I guess, I hate when they have the performers scream and pee in the bed lol
I am now resuming my journey in Brazzers content from yesteryear. This one is between Aidra Fox and Chloe Cherry titled "First Time With My BFF," released June 8, 2018. Aidra is one of my all time favorites, so I have some confidence in this. I mean, how bad can it be?
As we all know, young women pass time by having pillow fights, discussing the size of their boyfriend's penis, talking about practicing sex with their BFF, and training one another on sucking d*ck.
Just to round things out, let me list out all the other bad stuff about this scene: loud over-reaction, bad tribbing, bad face-sitting, bad analingus. But, there are good parts.
Aidra's oral sex and fingering are immaculate.
I don't know how good Chloe generally is in g/g scenes, but here her oral sex is also very enthusiastic and looks very good.
Near the end, Aidra goes back with her mouth, tongue, and fingers energetically and beautifully.
I really like some moments in this scene. I like the premise and they just look damn sexy in those pajamas.
I'm a big Aidra Fox fan and think she really loves women as it shows in her enthusiasm in her g/g scenes. Some moments as you stated are ... eh... but damn when Aidra is into a girl and goes down on them, boy does she go down.
I think they also both had a scene together with GF Films. Forget the name right now.
^Yeah Aidra is excellent as usual. Some women tend to match the level of her partner, so can look great in one scene but very ordinary in another, but Aidra tends to be just good all the time. Also, I didn't know about her scene with Chloe on GFF. Thanks for the info.
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Lezzyist Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 11 2023 : 1:35PM
What was the latest release you guys have seen with an actual orgasm in it?
^ I could tell you when I last ejaculated. Telling you when I last saw a female performer orgasm would be a guess. It would be a guess for me & a guess for anybody else here.