I think that Freya mentioned that she only dates women in her personal life (HardX?), which would technically make her "straight for pay" if true.
As a side note, does anyone know what enables Greg Lansky, KissMeGirl and other directors to shoot scenes so well? I'm curious about defining personal characteristics of the directors/producers. Because aside from working with some solid performers, they seemed to also get some great performances from G4P girls (sometimes when both were paired with each other).
I feel like today's G4P is different from the G4P of yesteryear, but I can't put my finger on why.....(it's especially true when you look at Europe today vs. a decade ago).
Regardless of what 2 women do together in bed in any type of film, the lesbian community claim it doesn't look authentic. Apparently, they actually magically grow antennae & pleasure each other in ways that can only be imagined.
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Posted - Dec 28 2022 : 10:06PM
^^I don't know if I buy into that, re Freya as lesbian. Love her scenes though.
As for guys like Lansky, I would guess they just really liked it and had a passion for it as opposed to lesbian shoots being a novelty or just another everyday shoot.
^Nah, there are clear differences between good sex and bad or flatout nonexistent sex. They aren't making it up.
I don't think you can take any of those "BTS interviews" as gospel truth mate, "Freya" is being interviewed, not the girl who portrays the porn persona known as Freya
so of course, to maintain the illusion of the persona/character, and to maintain that lust factor from fans, girls like Freya may say in these BTS interviews that "I only date girls in real life" but in reality, that's not necessarily the reality of the person who drives away from set and goes home to their real life. Georgia Jones was a famous on-screen lesbian, but still had male partners in her personal life. Same for girls like Jayden Cole etc.
they're great at portraying their persona as a lesbian, but that's why they're good actresses, anything "in character" is just their act
Porn is like professional sports. It's meant to feature exceptional individuals doing exceptional things. They are not meant to be representative of actual people. I mean, 2/3 of Americans are overweight. How many people want to watch "authentic" level of athleticism?
Also, this business of speculating about who is an "actual" lesbian is pointless. In all such cases (who's gay, who's straight, who's lesbian), there's only one vote that matters -- the actual man or woman him or herself. Nobody's else's opinion counts for sh*t.
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Posted - Dec 29 2022 : 2:54AM
Lmao and "scissoring" compilation at that.
I just saw an ad on Adulttime to add a lifetime membership to LesbianX for like $120 but ....the site isn't even adding new content lol
Most lesbian porn is like a type of professional sports where LeBron James walks onto an American football field and aimlessly attempts to dribble the football before yelling that he is cumming and bashing the the uprights with his hockey puck. Why does he have a hockey puck on a football field? Because that's how exceptional people do it lmao
The only real lesbian actress was Lily Cade and she retired a while ago. For the rest of the performers in the bussiness, they are bisexual or gay for pay.
Lily Cade had some very satisfying scenes that differed from alot of lesbian content. Alot more sensuality,touching and actual moments of nipple play. One scene in particular of hers i love is "The Services I Provide" scene with Misty Stone and Allison Rey. Way more touching and nipple play then one is use to in an American scene but seeing a Misty Stone getting her nipples played with and flicked for an extended period of time is refreshing.
But yes,her scenes showcased her preferences alot,she didn't go straight into pussy eating like most of these lesbian scenes,she seemed to actually like the female body.
I'm hopping to tap some of the expertise here with a RECOMMENDATION FOR A NEW WEBSITE to join. I've been a long term member of vivthomas.com, but I am looking for more content. I was pretty happy with SapphicErotica.com, and only stopped my membership when they started recycling their content.
Here is the criteria I am looking to fill:
1. The site can NOT use Probiller as a the payment processor. I'm too creeped out by their shady billing practices and deceitful advertising (e.g. not informing people that downloads cost extra). Unfortunately, this eliminates Lesbea.com which I quite enjoyed.
2. I'm looking for feminine "glamour" aesthetic in the actresses. I really am turned on by the beauty of actresses like Bunny Colby, Cherry Kiss, Lacy Lennon, Eliza Ibarra, Kenzie Taylor, Abigail Mac, Katrina Jade, Dorothy Black, Kiara Lord, Alyssia Kent, Sofi Vega, etc. Because of this, sites like AbbyWinters, GirlsOutWest and even GirlfriendFilms can be problematic. Same can be true for newer sites with exclusively American actresses. Oddly enough, the popular Riley Reid does not do it for me. Lily Cade is unwatchable for me.
3. Scenes should typically have lots of kissing and minimal or no toy use. Also, I prefer scenes that are shot in a beautiful/comfortable setting. A nice bedroom or swimming pool is vastly preferable to a grungy public bathroom.
The finer points Lesbian erotica are not mandatory for me. So, I don't mind much if a scene has no story or set-up. I don't mind if there is "excessive" moaning or actresses that are "gay for pay." I even enjoy the work of Darcie Dolce, and had no idea she was frowned upon until I stated reading these threads.
I'll appreciate any guidance in finding a new site -- those pornsite review websites are pretty useless.
I think you may like Wow Girls and Ultra Films content. Feel free to check Lesbian Teasers for the reference. There's a sale going on right now and you're getting both sites for the price of one. And with this link: discount.wowgirls.com you'll get extra discount. Cheers
Anyone interested in real raw passionate authentic G/G strap-on action there is this pretty girl Jacqueline Valentine who does it a lot on OF. She has 41 full G/G scenes where she mostly does strap-on with various girls. Most are none mainstream too. $12 to sub and all her vids are unlocked on her page no PPV. I haven't subbed but I think I will. I just ran across it on twitter. She said in a tweet you can see her passion for women in her scenes so I'm intrigued.
^I actually bought a couple of her vids. Pretty good quality overall so it's definitely worth checking out if you're intrigued. One thing I will say though is that there is some of that over-the-top moaning occasionally which can kind of grate on one's nerves. But she's definitely talented with the strap-on play.
There's been a few accusations of sexual assault against her from fellow performers, which she actually acknowledged with a public apology back in 2017
More recently however: She's gone down a pretty violent transphobe rabbit-hole. Making death threats against trans performers, and even going as far as to call for public executions of transwomen generally. Just some shockingly grotesque stuff all-around from her.
That's good to hear that you checked some of her work out and thought it was good quality that is worth checking out. Definitely validate me wanting to sub and seeing all of her G/G work.
I always enjoyed the energy that Lily Cade brought to her performances. There was never any question that she genuinely enjoyed fucking girls and often seemed to have orgasms of her own simply by using her fingers on her scene partner. If that was an act, she went all out in selling it.
At the same time, I wonder if she took her status as a "gold star lesbian in porn" a little too seriously. Maybe I'm reading too much into what she said while she was still active, but I always got the sense that she believed she was the only performer in the industry capable of delivering an authentic girl-girl scene.
Edited by - FunScotty on 1/3/2023 7:04:06 PM
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Posted - Jan 4 2023 : 12:17AM
^lol she is literally a lesbian. To someone who isn't just pretending for a camera, authentic probably means real. Which is to say she may not be the only one, but she's one of very few to this day.
Sucks that the primary (perhaps the only) actually gay woman in the industry turned out to be hateful. It's also kinda funny in an ironic way.
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Posted - Jan 4 2023 : 5:09PM
^ Most porn fans are lying when they say want to see real lesbians in porn. Most "real" lesbians don't look like pornstars. Don't know many times I've gotten talked down to or yelled at by people on here for telling them to check out sites like Crashpad, PinkLabel.TV or even sites like Abbywinter. Lipstick lesbians exist but they are not doing mainstream porn.
^ To add to your point, I mentioned Abbywinters pages ago asking who is into Abbywinters? Who is your fav performers and scenes on there? Nobody said anything to my post.
I personally love Abbywinters. Not their stuff now although I have to really check it out closer but their old stuff was amazing.
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Posted - Jan 4 2023 : 6:33PM
AbbyWinters girls can look alright, they just go to the other end of the extreme trying to look 'oh so different. I agree that the sex has fallen off compared to the past. There are some regular cute girls on there occasionally though. Selvaggia comes to mind. Same with Ersties, though Ersties has pretty much given up on sex in favor of literally just monthly gimmicks.
IFeelMyself has some hotties, and by hot I mean attractive regular girl hot, not weirdly stiff titties and too much makeup hot lol. And the sex is great there, you just have to wait a while for new scenes because they really do only put out GG when the girls are actually girl-friendly.
I'm rewatching some SubbyGirls stuff on my ADVDEmpire sub and kind of feeling that vibe. I'll probably give a SubbyGirls subscription a month or two.
In clip-store/OF, I'm gonna check out some Freya Von Doom and some Indica Flower aoon.
I am really over the borderline retarded (not sure I can say that here) vibes that big sites like Adulttime and Sweetheart video put out. So far I am not completely done with GFF (though close to it), but I am finished with All Her Luv and VivThomas when those subs are done.
Natural-ish, sex-focused content is where it's at.
^ Yeah I think Alyssa is in Europe now so she does shoots for VivThomas as well as shoot with the models for her OF. I have alot of her OF stuff. It's really good.
Ultra Films member comment - "VERY sexy These two are incredibly sexy and sensual together. Nancy brings a sensuality to everything she does with other women. She has to be about the sexiest most erotic and stunningly beautiful woman who has erver graced the world of porn, Whoever found her and keeps enticing her to make films should get a Pulitzer prize."
I feel like Hayli Sandars stands above all the other g/g performers on ultra/wow. I wish she would get work in scenes with women who are really into women and have actual sex.
So in 2023, what are the G/G pairings you most want to see? Just based on your personal interest, even if the women have been together before? For me, I want to see these match-ups.
Hazel Moore & Liz Jordan - They get pretty nasty in B/G scenes, but surprisingly sensual in G/G ones, and have similar vibes.
Kayden Kross & Maitland Ward (Officially) - Been wanting to see them hook up (no dudes involved) ever since their partnership. They clearly have already, but are not willing to share for some reason.
Jo & Josephine Jackson - Jo's return has been pretty good, and busty Josephine has caught my eye despite not doing much G/G.
Sinn Sage & Skye Blue - Would love to see Sinn Strap-Down Skye.
^ Abigail Mac and Karla Kush - both mainly do OF now so I hope they can get together one day and shoot content.
Kenna James and Alex Coal - they did a G/G orgy for OF but they had an encounter that wasn't really captured much but the little that was captured was so hot. I want them to do a G/G with just them together.
Alex Coal and Sinn Sage - they have shot stuff together but mostly fetish stuff for Sinn site not just a regular G/G scene. I hope they will shoot a regular G/G scene even if it's a strap-on. I'd love that.
Indica Flower and Alex Coal - I've been asking about them shooting together multiple times on Twitter and both are down so hopefully it will happen.
Julia Ann and Ivy Lebelle - Julia said recently how she is just mesmerized by Ivy and that she is her type. Don't think it will happen as Ivy is in New York but if she can travel to LA one day and make it happen with Julia I'll be so happy.
Scarlett Sage and Lacy Lennon - Now that Scarlett is back shooting and Lacy has come back from her break will go back shooting I'd love to see this happen.
Scarlett Sage and Alex Coal/Freya Parker/Spencer Bradley - Scarlett with any of the three if not all of the three would be great for me. If she can shoot three separate scenes with those three women at some point this year it would be a win win for me.
Cadence Lux and Alex Coal - This has to happen and for AHL. It would just feel so right.
Lumi Ray and Alex Coal - I'm into Lumi lately as a newcomer and she is just stunning all around. I'd love to see these two together.
Lena Paul and Alex Coal - This would be a killer scene for me. Probably would either happen for OF or AdultTime but I'd love for it to happen.
Susie Stellar and Alex Coal - I feel like they would match perfectly from personality and just authentic passion for real sex with women.
Keisha Grey and Abigail Mac - they both are in Florida so I feel like this has to happen. Plus they have never done G/G together before. This would instantly be a hit.
Abigail Mac and Gia Derza - Gia nowadays only do OF stuff if that. I know they did a B/G orgy but never a G/G together. The way Gia can get nasty and we know Abi can be dirty too I think this pairing would be so hot together.
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Posted - Jan 6 2023 : 2:13PM
I think Abs and Keisha Grey have a Reality Kings (present-day) scene.
Edit: nevermind I may have been thinking of Keisha/Jenna Sativa
1.AbbyWinters 2.GirlsOutWest 3.VivThomas 4.ersties 5.Ultra Films
Gff used to be my Number 1 but its gone downhill ever since Dan retired.
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My faves right now are pretty much IFeelMyself and GirlfriendsFilms. Only companies with GG scenes without obnoxious shrieking fake moans in every scene lol
-Lacy Lennon & Serene Siren: They've worked together 4 times (once was for Lacy's OF), and every scene has been insanely hot. Lacy even mentioned in her interview with Prinzzess for GFF how Serene was the first performer she worked with where she became smitten with her because the sex had been so good.
-Ana Foxxx & Kenzie Taylor
-Sinn Sage & Jill Kassidy
-Cherry Kiss & Alyssa Reece
-Angela White & Kissa Sins
-Charlotte Sartre & Sheena Rose
-And just as a long shot: Abella Danger & Joanna Angel (Abella is basically retired at this point so it almost certainly won't happen, though the two of them have shot some photos together for their OF pages)
OK so here's something that is not porn, but very, very sexy/erotic. This is an excellent fan edit/music video of a British TV mini-series called "The Confessions of Frannie Langton," which is based on a novel of the same name.
I've neither seen the show nor read the novel, but it seems to be a gothic murder mystery featuring a sizzling forbidden interracial lesbian romance between a black woman and her white mistress (the black woman is an ex-slave), set in 19th century London. The two women who play the leads are absolutely gorgeous, as can be seen in the video, especially the actress Karla-Simone Spence who plays the black woman. While it's certainly not X-rated, the kissing and makeout are really excellent And it has some really cute moments of dancing and cuddling too.
And it has some really cute moments of dancing and cuddling too.