Oh yes there are black porn filmmakers. See West Coast Productions. There is ample opportunity for black women in porn in the U.S. However, in a country where racial barriers are supposed to be breaking down, where even a black man has been elected the U.S. president, most white porn filmmaker still seem to be comfortably clinging to the tenets of segregation when it comes to their plot feature porn films. There are plenty of white filmmakers who have no problem casting a black woman with white men in gonzo films, but when it comes to diversifying their female casts on features, for unknown reasons it appears to be taboo. For those of us that enjoys some plot with our porn, and enjoy both black and white porn actresses, this is an utterly disappointing situation. Nor does it reflect well on the so-called leading nation of the "free" world.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jul 28 2009 : 3:30AM
A fair number, and they have improved the quality of black-on-black porn significantly: L.T, Josh Stone, Alexander Devoe, Diane Devoe, Justin Slayer. Juan Cuba also deserves some kudos, although he's not black.
Hell that's the film right there. Probably sell itself. I know there are plenty upon plenty of white male performers into black women, unfortunately they usually don't get to chose unless it's their film or somehow a niche film. How can the black women chose them if they're not in the room or the building. You'd never convince me something with a good black female/white male cast wouldn't or couldn't sell. Edited by - aplus on 7/30/2009 6:08:45 PM
But see this subject really isn't about you, or specifically about what "you" want. It's about what others want or would at least like to see more of. Considering there is obviously so much of what you want and like out there, I'm not exactly sure what your argument or beef really is. What no black women are allowed in any feature porn simply because guys like you don't want to see them? Or nobody else has a right to suggest they do simply because you don't like it? Clearly your mindset or preference is what is being fought against?
You definitely have a good list, especially with Mone Devine. In fact, I'd like to recommend Kapri Styles, Melrose Foxx, Candice Nicole, Aryanna Star, Lacey Duvalle, Melodee Bliss, Monica Foster, and Taylor Starr.
I found it interesting that the latest Anabolic release 'Initiations 25' contained two scenes with brand new black girls. Abosultely brand spanking never seen before, both did DP. It's been a long time since I've seen a couple of black girls in a mainstream gonzo release that wasn't black themed and it reminded me of the goold old days when Vince Vouyer and Michael Stefano would regularly have hot black chicks in their mainstream stuff for Redlight or Platinum X. Maybe there's hope...
I'd much rather see a black guy fucking a white girl than a black girl being fucked by a white or a black guy. To me, a big booty on a white girl looks sexy, but on a black girl seems gross and dirty and just plain old fat. I enjoy watching black dudes fuck white pussy, and I enjoy watching white girls suck black cock. I don't like seeing black girls suck white guys because their mouth/lips are usually big; you don't get that "he's filling her up" sensation. It's more like "she can take more" sensation, which isn't the fantasy of most guys. Most guys, I think, want to fantasize about being bigger than the opening they're going into it. With many/most black chicks, you just don't get that. I don't like black-on-black, either. Black-on-white contrasts nicely and you can really see what's going on, action-wise. In my experiences, black women are overly mouthy (vocally loud and irritating) and have too much crazy, bitchy, over-the-top attitude which makes them a zero fantasy for me. Edited by - cryogenix on 8/1/2009 4:54:35 PM
"To me, a big booty on a white girl looks sexy, but on a black girl seems gross and dirty and just plain old fat." Haha. Yeah, black booties like Melrose Foxxx' are really gross, dirty and just plain old fat. Just when I thought I'd heard it all!
Foxx is barely black in skin tone, and has a nice ass. My problem with her is, I don't find her the least bit attractive. That's as nice as I can put it.
I could care less whether a black porn actress is screwing a white, black, Hispanic or Asian, whether it is male or female. I just want to see black actresses afforded the opportunity for quality porn features -- more than they are getting with black filmmakers. It is the abject segregation that I object to. Has there ever been a black porn actress chosen to be a contract Wicked girl. The answer is no as far as know.. Only infrequent guest black women. Which by the way, after Jada Fire managed to be included on Wicked's "Mobster Ball," I note that the porn sequel "MB2" does not include Jada or any other black woman for that matter.
Speaking for myself most of my black customers would rather watch white women than black women. For those that who enjoy black women claim most of the female stars look like ghetto dogs. Most Native americans like the black females. To be honest I personally see it as perception of the black women in society. Also it may have been thier moral up bringing. Blaming white film makers is a cop out. You supply what the public wants and they do. Stop whinning about how unfair it is and buy some movies so they have a reason to put black women in a scene or two. Ever hear about supply and demand? ITS A FRICKEN BUSINESS! Its about fantasy. INDIVISUAL fantasy. There are more white people than black. Hell latinas are less represented. Dont hear them crying.
Candace Von, Lacey DuValle, Mika Brown, Nyomi Banxxx, Tara Moore, Candice Nicole, Cassidy Clay, Jazmine Cashmire, Mone Devine,....a ghetto dogs???? I know it's a subjective perspective, but you may want to consider finding yourself a quality optimologist!
Let's give it up for Porn Fidelity's Ryan & Kelly Madison, who's "Baby's Mommas" is at least one flick in which a white woman is not afraid to share the dick spotlight with some black females (Lacey DuValle, Candace Von, Nyomi Banxx, Coco Poink and Havana Ginger (okay, the last one is Afro-Hispanic...but they are welcome as well).
The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05
Posted - Aug 5 2009 : 9:41PM
I read some of the posts in this thread but when two names do come up such as Marie and Jada, that does mean that these two girls are at the top of thier game. So I agree with what Marie says. I'll add to it though that more directors should venture to adding more black women to thier movies. And there is alot of hotties out there. All you have to do is pick up copies of some IR ones and the girls are top notch. Sadly it does look as though when Marie and Jada hang up thier thongs, what ebony ladies can take over in that capacity? But whoever says there are not many attractive black girls in porn, you need to do some searching online and see that you are definitely wrong. These girls got the bumpers and that to me is where it is at.
Hence my point Jenna, it should not come down to a question of what will happen when Jada and Marie retire from porn. Thank God basebase didn't wait around until Jackie Robinson retired before the Major League let another black ballplayer take the field. As white America got used to the idea that black ballplayer could competitively play as well as white men, more were added to the roster -- like Roy Campanella, Don Newcombe, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks, etc... -- while Jackie was playing through his illustrious career. So while Jada Fire and Marie Luv are at the top of their game at an Adult Hall of Fame level, there are many others moderate-to-dark-skinned black porn actresses who should be getting more of an opportunity. Nyomi Banxxx appears to be getting some shots to perform with white women. Jazmine Cashmire, Roxy Reynolds, Midori, Vanessa Monet, Lacey DuValle, America, Vivaca Coxxx and Candice Nichol come most immediately to mind -- and there are many others. There are also some light skinned black women that could use the opportunity, although a few of them like Tyra Moore and Alena Love have managed to get themselve casted with white female porn actresses.
The parodies rage that has transpired over the last year has not lent itself to abundant possibilities with respect to the attempt to sexual reprise a sexual version of shows original characters. Most of the parodies focused on shows that had all white casts, such as Happy Days, Steinfeld, The Munsters, Get Smart, and similar shows that never had any black cast member in the original casts. The Cosby and Star Trek parodies have provided some opportunities for black porn actresses, but the parody of Grey's Anatomy did match the original cast's diversity. There are numerous parody possibilities with diverse original cast, and hopefully some of those will be done.
They wanted me to be in The Cosby parody but didn't want to give me my rate. I am not compromising my rate just to perform in more movies with black guys or any guy for that matter. It's a known fact that white girls can & do get more money to perform in scenes.
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG WITH THAT COMMENT BABE. THERE ARE MORE WHITE GUYS WITH BLACK GIRLS THAN YOU THINK YOU NEED TO COME TO LA OR ATLEAST NEVADA BABE TRUST ME WE HAVE MORE RACISM IN THE COMPANIES THAN WE DO IN THE FANS. Cleopatra Of Porn
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Aug 7 2009 : 1:00PM
Cholmes58, It just occured to me that since you continue to beat this horse you're obviously working on a thesis paper or other research project. Would you care to share the school you're attending and the title of the paper?
Has anyone ever talked to companies? I was talking with two and they said the only IR that sells well for them is BM/WF and that is why they make more of those films.
Not sure if you know the whole story of the Hemmings family (the slaves under Jefferson) but there is indeed plenty of fodder in the true story to craft a porn plot out of. Seems like you have just casted it out of hand without any real rationale. Please share with me....what makes it a bad story idea? If a porn flick can parody Obama, I think other presidents are fair game. While not all would be good subjects, a few like Clinton, Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, Grant... could be wildly good porn subjects. But we digress from the topic...The whole purpose of the Jefferson idea would be as a vehicle for black porn actresses in what could be a diverse cast. The possible casting could be Thomas Jefferson -- Evan Stone Sally Hemming (TJ's slave mistress) -- Jazmine Cashmire Mary Hemmins (Sally's sister) -- Mone Devine Elizabeth Hemings (matriarch) -- Nyomi Banxxx Martha Jefferson (TJ's wife) -- Gianna Michaels John Wayles (Elizabeth's master/dickmaster)-- Randy Spears Thomas Bell (Mary's master/dickmaster) -- Eric Masterson Mary Jefferson Eppes (TJ's white daughter) -- Nichol Sheridan Thomas Eppes (Mary Jefferson husband) -- Voodoo Robert Hemings (Sally's bro) -- Lexington Steele James Hemings (Sally's bro) -- Mr. Marcus Dolly Hemings (Robert's wife) -- Courtney Devine While the characters are probably Greek to many who don't know the lustful story of TJ and Sally, trust me: while out-of-the-box for porn, for that reason alone in the hand of a creative scriptwriter and director it has potential.
I hope she is. She is one of my favorites. One filmography list shows two 2009 release date films... one "The Biggest Blackest Orgies 4" which has a release date for 8/18/09.
The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05
Posted - Aug 7 2009 : 8:00PM
Very true Aryana, here in Toronto interracial dating is the norm, you see it all over and no one bats an eye top it. I do believe that it is in the industry itself, where you have alot of directors, studio owers, who do not feel that interracial porn for example with white guys and black women is a moneymaker. No clue why. I am sure the black women in porn will be the ones to tell it straight. We can only speculate. How many Latin women with Black Men interracial do we need? Or Aisan women with Black Men? It seems to be the norm, yet only a handful of good series out there are Interracial with Black Women and White Men? I know that the last 2 years at the AVN AEE it is the Ebony Ladies I head to meet first thing. I also think that there are some really good black women but the studios seem to hesitate to book any of them regularily like Marie and Jada. Maybe Melrose Foxxx, Sinnimon Love, Kitten and Nyomi Banxxx are probably four that come to mind who get alot of IR work. But Roxy Reyonolds is one girl I do not see in many IR titles for example. But not sure if she just doesn't care to do IR much and prefer Black on Black? I'd love to see For me personally, I am so bored of the Barbie Doll Blondes. I mean how many do we need?
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429 Posts 11/08
Posted - Aug 7 2009 : 8:11PM
Here in Toronto? You should drop your dick and take a walk outside sometime. The clueless we will always have. Name me 1 (one) inter racial joint in Toronto.
The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05
Posted - Aug 8 2009 : 12:58AM
Sorry you lost me on this one. I don't recall mentioning any interracial joint. And do you mean bar or club? Drop my dick and walk outside, I live downtown here and I see many interracial couples all over this city. I see black women with white men, I see white women with black men, i see black men with asian women, I see white men with asian women, I see latin women with white men, I see black men with latin women, I see Indian women with white men. So not sure what part of this city you are in. And ya I am clueless for sure. I have no clue what I am talking about. I must be the lone white guy in this big city that is seen with a black girl.
Well during my scenes with some black performers they are complaining about fucking the girl in the ass. They lack the passion that needs to come out sometimes. I'm not saying all black performers but a lot of them. I think that Nat Turnher & Justin Slayer are great performers. The black male talent pool just don't have enough choices for me. I recently worked with this black guy named Ice Cold & he is a great performer & I hope to work with him more.
I think that is a easy cop out. So they're trying to say that there is no market for BW/WM IR scenes? That is just some BS. If that was the fact then they wouldn't shoot it at all. They just don't want to produce that type of product or put the money needed to promote it so it can do well.
Yes & a lot of guys get paid more to do anal on a woman. I was on set & the dude was like no one told it was a anal scene. I turned to him & said Do u need to prep your ass? So of course he struggled during the anal portion of the scene. Which annoyed & turned me off, so that equals not a sexy scene. LOL
