WM isn't an Evil Genius. Evil Moron is more like it. So any updates in Christy? Edited by - jrv on 8/24/2014 9:53:13 PM
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Posted - Aug 25 2014 : 6:06AM
I am wondering what you Christy Mack fans think of Bella Bellz She is now my favorite inked pornstar since Christy has quit. Bonnie Rotten close second.
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Posted - Aug 25 2014 : 11:47AM
^I don't distinguish between inked and non-inked performers, but for what it's worth I think that Bonnie is an entirely superior performer to either Bella or Christy. I'd go so far as to say that based on her skills as a performer she's one of the top pornstars working today. That said, if I had to choose who I'd rather watch between the three it would be Bella, because I like her look more and I have a moderate bias in favor of pornstars who shoot IR. Even though I prefer Bella's look though I think that Christy is the prettiest of the three.
[/quote] I love when people...on a porn site...in a porn forum...have the audacity to talk about a woman's head space in her decision to work in the industry. You have zero clue as to why I, or any other performer made personal decision to work in the adult industry. It's your preference to not support your girlfriend, Mom, sister working in the adult industry. ..and I appreciate you having that opinion. What I don't appreciate is you assuming all pornstars are the same and come from dysfunctional families or are horrible people. Mindsets like yours are what creates our society to have the inclination to even consider believing a word that someone like WM says...because the victim was a pornstar she must be partly to blame because...well she fucks for a living. Good day. Edited by - hollywest on 8/25/2014 3:22:34 PM Edited by - hollywest on 8/25/2014 3:23:20 PM
I love when people...on a porn site...in a porn forum...have the audacity to talk about a woman's head space in her decision to work in the industry. You have zero clue as to why I, or any other performer made personal decision to work in the adult industry. It's your preference to not support your girlfriend, Mom, sister working in the adult industry. ..and I appreciate you having that opinion. What I don't appreciate is you assuming all pornstars are the same and come from dysfunctional families or are horrible people. Mindsets like yours are what creates our society to have the inclination to even consider believing a word that someone like WM says...because the victim was a pornstar she must be partly to blame because...well she fucks for a living. Good day. Edited by - hollywest on 8/25/2014 3:22:34 PM Edited by - hollywest on 8/25/2014 3:23:20 PM
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Some of us do not believe her because some of her claims were literally proven to be false.
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urthoughts Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 26 2014 : 4:45AM
I love when people...on a porn site...in a porn forum...have the audacity to talk about a woman's head space in her decision to work in the industry. You have zero clue as to why I, or any other performer made personal decision to work in the adult industry. It's your preference to not support your girlfriend, Mom, sister working in the adult industry. ..and I appreciate you having that opinion. What I don't appreciate is you assuming all pornstars are the same and come from dysfunctional families or are horrible people. Mindsets like yours are what creates our society to have the inclination to even consider believing a word that someone like WM says...because the victim was a pornstar she must be partly to blame because...well she fucks for a living. Good day. Edited by - hollywest on 8/25/2014 3:22:34 PM Edited by - hollywest on 8/25/2014 3:23:20 PM
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I dont think the people who thinks shes partly to blame will say its because shes a porn star but more because of her poor decision making. I saw a youtube video on her where she says the first time she met war machine he was stalking her. At that point im sure there are porn stars who would have called the police on him or at bare minimum keep their distance, this girls choice was to become his girlfriend and put a stamp on her body that reads property of war machine. Something should have gone off in the back of her head that said this guy might not be the one
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Posted - Aug 26 2014 : 5:07AM
Not only would I argue that Bonnie's the better performer, but I'd also say that Bonnie's the best-looking. One thing I really like about Bonnie is that she's kept the skin above her shoulders clean, she's got no tats on her neck and face, which is great because she's got a gorgeous face. While I found Christy to be hot, I was never crazy about the hairstyle (shaved on the sides) and the heart tattoo under the eye. Buy hey, it's just my opinion, no better or worse than yours.
If some relatively famous guy stalks a girl and she sees this as a way to catch her attention or even court her because this famous guy likes her , you really think this to be a mistake so bad to be literally put almost to death? What would you do if a hot girl would stalk you, what would you do if say a known dom (any of your choice from kink) would stalk you? Would you feel flattered? would you call the police? would you fuck her? Even knowing her tastes? Too many judge as in mathematics , love affairs , sex affairs aren't that clear often unpredictable even for ourselves , Have ever ended up fucking a girl you wouldn't looked at twice ? I did, and happily , we shared a clarifying moment and then it happened unplanned , unexpected , unthinkable even moments before, I just didn't like her , I'm not even sure I like her now , physically I mean , yet it happened. Attraction follows mysterious paths , sometimes they are wrong, sometimes it hurts. I don't know what passed in Christy's mind , I don't know how much involved she was sentimentally , those in love act like idiots in the eyes of those outside , all of us who had at least a crush know how powerful feeling love is, I don't blame her for her choices , no matter how wrong they were/are in MY outsider cold view, she didn't deserve such beating in any case. He had no right to beat her, not even to yell at her only because she fucked him a couple times after they split
About this 3 you mention, Bonnie (even if personally I dont like the way she acted in her twitter account about the Christy Mack´s situation because she was rude and invited people to donate for "a real cause" in a clear refference to Christy´s donation) is the more skilled and better performer, Christy is the prettiest of the three and Bella is very good but not in this level yet. However, Skin Diamond is the more skilled performer today and, even if I dont care about inks or not, since Skin has tattoos then Skin is the best of the inked ones too. She is simply out of league.
Guys are you really discussing such topic in THIS thread? A thread devoted to Christy, and this while she's struggling in a hospital bed? This is not even a matter of bad manners. I'm sure there's more than one topic to discuss about inked stars thoroughly Edited by - LCF on 8/26/2014 9:34:54 AM
^Honestly i think you right, but at the same time what else is there to talk about in regards to this thread? War Machines has been caught, there has been no new updates about Christy's health, no new comments(good or bad)from other performers and we now who the other guy was, so ya why not talk about her as a performer adn other inked up girls like her and make some comparisons to pass the time in this thread atleast until there is something real to discuss. btw im taking Skin everyday of the week and twice on sunday.
Unfortunately you don't live in a black & white world. It is full of colors of every possible shade, and a truly white or truly black is hard to find. You're not likely to find many credible people of you disqualify them for any unrelated error, no matter how minor.Christy ought to be getting initial evaluations from reconstructive surgeons any day now. Is she talking to anyone?
^It is not just about those specific claims that were proven false, it's also her questionable past with WM, especially the part where she admits that she went back to him after repeated abuse in the past. You absolutely cannot blame the people who do not believe every word that she says like some of her fans do here.
^^^^See? This is exactly what i was saying. Without the guys talking about her as a performer as compared to other girls with a similar look then ^this is all this thread would be. A bunch of guys saying that they don't really feel bad for because she went back to him and that she shouldn't be asking her fans for money, while the other side is saying she was a battered women and deserved to be treated as such and not called a liar or someone just out for sympathy and money. IT just goes around and around with nothing new to talk about.
^ It looks like her but can't have been taken on August 22 there's a police report based on the medical reports from the hospital stating her status , there's no way to lie about this
Edited by - LCF on 8/26/2014 5:34:12 PM
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urthoughts Deactivated User
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I don't think it's cute that tattoo is horrible. Anyway I have a question , have you ever been in love ? I mean deeply sincerely , if you did you know what that means , in such state of mind cause and effect don't exist , you really don't care in the least, something similar to an addiction you only want one thing , her with you no matter what. As an outsider , I'm perfectly aware of cause and effect and given his history even predictable , but to have a love story with him it's another whole story, this plus the complete psychological effect of an abusive relationship , which I believe was the case here Edited by - LCF on 8/26/2014 6:24:11 PM
so every time I'm in LOVE and the woman....maybe not or maybe jerking me around......well....that means I can beat the living fuck out of her............
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urthoughts Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 26 2014 : 9:49PM
this is why i say you dont understand what im talking about. consequences dont care about your emotional state. first lets talk about being deeply in love, in order to become deeply in love with someone you would first have to spend time with that person, get to know that person. if urthoughts (from your last scenario ) realized a girl was stalking me yet i decided anyways to give this girl a chance and spent time with her, got to know her and fell madly in love with her YES i might make choices based on emotion instead of logic but at some point i wasnt madly in love with her. at the point where i realized this girl was stalking me was the point where i should have decided NOT to pursue a relationship with her PERIOD. if i decide (knowing shes a stalker) to date her anyways than i really cant be shocked if something negative happens in our relationship. later in our relationship could she have " psychological power " over me, perhaps.. by that time its too late, my bad decision was already made. sometimes we make good choices in life and find that special someone who is safe to love and adore. sometimes we make choices that we think are good but end up being bad and yes we have to pay for those choices. this usually happens when we make a choice without getting the full info before our choice is made. IF war machine came across when they first met as a person who appeared "normal" than i would say because of the information christy had her choice to date him wouldnt be questioned "i thought he was a good guy" (EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD STILL HAVE BEEN THE WRONG CHOICE) but because he showed her he wasnt wrapped tight before she dated him her choice to date him comes under scrutiny. the information was there she just chose to ignore it. maybe a stamp isnt cute to you maybe you think stalking is cute and you think (like she did) that the stalking wasnt a big deal (which is why she gave in to him) but this isnt cute. its a very dangerous situation and if other young woman can learn from her mistake maybe this will save some other person who might think " oh look at this stalker stalking me cause im so great he must really love me"
I know exactly what are you talking about I've been there , a friend of mine fell in love with an addicted , it was clear for everyone it would end from bad to very bad everybody knew even those directly involved , but it couldn't be helped ,the involvement was too strong , there was nothing we could do short chain somebody. It ended bad. Another one a girl, first date with a guy it was a reunion and she brought this new guy she met the day before (or two days can't remember) he placed her in a corner with him between her and all of us , then she complained for him grabbing her n her knee with excessive strength , him hitting her hands and not allowing her to drink anything but water , then slapped her because she shouldn't speak with any other male but him , if we have to say anything to her we should tell him first. We were close to lynch that moron and if it wasn't for her smiling and laughing all the time we surely would have. He did this on their first date in front of us. We talked about this out of her ears , this is bad , this guy is incredible , this will end bad even if she e dumps him at once he won't accept it , this is really bad , how could she even have talked to such thing let alone date him? We didn't ear from her for a long while , there was no way to speak with her , he took her cell from her , she wasn't allowed to the internet , ceased her contract with company , completely isolated , until she went to an hospital , once, again, several times , she never accused him , now they split , luckily she didn't marry him, but we aren't sure she's safe. So yes I know exactly what it is. Yet I've been deeply in love , I've been there either, there's no logic in there , no reasoning , it's almost as being high , there's no way you can talk me out of that while it lasts , nothing matters more than be there. And I am more and more convinced that only those who felt like that can really understand what it means
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Posted - Aug 27 2014 : 7:53AM
I believe that she had already been released from the hospital prior to August 22nd. I don't know if that's really her or not. It may not be. But if it is her, I see this as more ammunition for the defense in a trial. If she was so badly injured and required as much medical treatment as we've been told, then it doesn't strengthen her case if she's seen walking around and back to normal so quickly. Bones and broken jaws don't heal that fast.
She confirmed that was her, and she stated that she was going to buy food wih some friends See also The Daily Mail Edited by - Gambo192 on 8/27/2014 8:25:45 AM
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Posted - Aug 27 2014 : 8:25AM
^If that's true, then so much for everything I've heard about her being so terribly injured that she wouldn't be able to move, walk around, or eat solid food. I guess all that money really did help. This is exactly why I tend to be skeptical of stuff like that.
^ Yes I dont care so much about these gossip stories, I prefer letting the regular justice do its course, but I reckon that some things seem strange. I tend to look at both sides and not to root for anyone. This is the blog post from the close friend of War Machine (he says he's paying for his legal fees, if I understood well), maybe it's all fantasy, maybe it's what WM will be telling too, I dont know, but it raises some questions (among some pure crap too)... Edited by - Gambo192 on 8/27/2014 8:44:12 AM
^ What questions? He didn't beat her? Hasn't her been hospitalized? aren't there MEDICAL and Police reports? Do you believe they lied? Also since she hasn't a disease maybe being treated at home (if she's been released of course) would save some medical expenses , in such photo she's not exactly dancing nor seems to be dolled up. To recover from fractures you need only to rest , you can't do anything else , only to wait for your bones to fix themselves Unless you imply he's innocent because she didn't die
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Posted - Aug 27 2014 : 9:59AM
Here's another possible scenario. Christy and her new BF attacked the MMA guy and he acted in self defense.
^ The guy and Christy went to the hospital at very different hours , she got help from a neighbour and the other guy wasn't there , He and Christy were at Christy's place in bed at 1:30 AM and WM trespassed , even if they attacked him he can hardly claim a self defence
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Posted - Aug 27 2014 : 10:25AM
^^Considering that Christy is in no way a match for him in either height, weight, or fighting skill, even if WM were acting in self-defense - and I don't see any reason to believe that he was - he went above and beyond the use of necessary violence. Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/27/2014 10:26:12 AM
No, simple questions like: were actually her injuries not as bad as she said? If so, why did she say that? Or: were they still together or not? Or also: are the medical/police reports public? (I dont know the U.S. rules) Why do some people seem to know whtat it's written in them?
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Posted - Aug 27 2014 : 11:43AM
^The police report is public and describes her injuries. It can be found online quite easily, as I said earlier in the thread. I don't know about the medical report. ^^Yeah, even if Christy did indeed pull a knife on WM I doubt that he would have had a problem disarming her and simply holding her until she calmed down. Self-defense? I think not, unless of course Christy is actually a ninja and has been hiding that important fact from us all this time.
Just so people know, the guy who wrote that blog emerged shortly after the incident first happened and has been trolling people ever since. I'm sure he believes a lot of what he says but he definitely gets a thrill out of riling people up. He also really seems to enjoy trashing Christy and people who have publicly supported her. He also claims to be a friend of War Machine but has made fun of him too. His avatar was a picture of War Machine wearing a sombrero when he was still on the run, and he's posted pictures of him wearing t-shirts that say, "I do alpha male shit. Like punch bitches", and pictures of him saving the day. The guy strikes me as more of an opportunist than anything. He's gotten his 15 minutes out this ordeal, that's for sure.
^ Ah, I see. I was under the impression I put you onto him, lol. He's the guy who first confirmed it was Christy Mack in those photos I linked to the other day. He's actually brought some things to the table but I think he's more in it for himself than anything. At least he gives people something to talk about.
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Posted - Aug 27 2014 : 5:32PM
It was all a dream war machine will wake up in hawaii
She didn't say the Doctors at the Hospital wrote that on their report s , also the police reported the same injuries but even if those injuries weren't that bad or she recovers as good as wolverine , so wht? Is he allowed to beat her as he pleases?
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The medical record is not yet in the public domain, and is still subject to HIPPA (medical privacy law). But if this goes to trial it all becomes part of the trial record.if he disputes any of it. The prosecution already has the report and the defense gets a copy well before trial. The record will contain x-rays for bone and teeth injuries and ultrasound for soft tissue injuries - hard to fake either of those - as well M.D. exam & radiologist notes. x-rays can be subject to interpretation and he might show there are only a dozen actual fractures. That doesn't do him much good.
^You're absolutely right. Police reports are written by police officers, not by medical professionals. Medical diagnoses can often be completely different from what is suspected in the police report. It is also very common for police reports to later be proven false in the course of further investigaton.
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Posted - Aug 29 2014 : 3:28AM
If the cop was at the hospital when he took the report he might have asked the dr what was wrong with her
Let's pretend for a moment Christy pulls a knife on him. That's a deadly threat, and he has self-defense rights in that situation. He is _NOT_ obligated to attempt capture (disarm and hold) - he can attack to get that knife away from her. However, the *instant* that knife is no longer a threat, he loses self-defense rights, and the next punch is just criminal battery. He hit her a bunch, and he's not going to convince a jury that was all necessary for self-defense. In the heat of battle (literally "in the presence of an uplifted knife") his judgment doesn't have to be perfect. But look at her pics - this went way beyond self-defense.
I asked someone to photoshop jail bars onto that & "32 years" and I may finally have a worthy avatar!
The hospital ER will have called the police almost immediately. ER sees assaults, domestic violence, etc, all the time and they know what to do. This is part of the reason for the nurse's initial "What happened to you?" dialog - in addition to the medical reasons, they need to know if the cops should be called (and if there's suspected child abuse -ER *must* call the cops, whether you like it or not). That cop is going to try to document the situation but also urgently learn who-done-it and try to dispatch cops to arrest the perp ASAP - the perp doesn't always go into hiding and might be a threat to public safety, perhaps even a threat to show up at the hospital to threaten or kill the victim.. The police are not going to write their report to dispute the ER's medical conclusions. If a police officer gets on the witness stand and disagrees with the medical testimony of a board-certified ER physician, the jury is going to just ignore the cop. The cop at the hospital is going to try preserve evidence as needed (bullets, etc) and get evidence in the form civilians & juries understand (the ER case file will be likely picture-free and not intelligible without a few years of med school). They'll want to document what was said, worn, brought-with etc at arrival. Standard police stuff, but at the ER.