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Danielmayu33216
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whakamaakuukuu
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Posted - Oct 8 2026 : 1:45AM
Wholeheartedly agree, particularly regard ...crazy. While LezTrib is trapped longing for that bygone era and can't seem to let go.
Been ignoring them for a while now, just as long as others don't post a reply like I've been tempted to do so many times.
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 8 2026 : 3:21AM
^I can agree with some of their criticism, but reading all the time that lesbian porn is not the same and that this isn't like the old times with Nica Noelle's Girlfriends Films or Greg Lanky's We live together is tiring as hell. I don't have any interest in interacting with these two again.
whyalwaysbilly
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^I agree, I'm just kind of tired of listening to the same stuff ad nauseum. That's why on the other thread I tried to steer the conversation away from it (it didn't work). So from now on I'm just going to ignore LezTrib and Lezzyi...sorry, Girl Crazy. I don't think they'll lose any sleep over it.
 
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 8 2026 : 4:00AM
There are so many good-quality GG scenes and unique content available online. There's a huge variety of scenes and different pairings to explore, and if some people don't like something, that's their issue-not ours. Those of us who enjoy it can simply appreciate the content we like.
The cost of accessing this content isn't that high either. I guess age-verification issues aren't present on various websites.
I'd also recommend Sinn Sage Studios' scenes featuring Sinn Sage with other performers.

https://www.adultempire.com/98626/studio/sinn-sage-studios-studios.html

Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 8 2026 : 7:03AM
^I mean, yeah, the adult industry and more prominently GG, is struggling and we aren't in the abundance era of the 2010s with many companies and exclusive performers, but it's not like everything is lost. We have pages like Allherluv or Sweetheart Video releasing scene after scene weekly that are excellent. Sometimes Girlsway, Girlsonlyporn, Bellesa, Sheseducedme or even Slayed can release a scene with a good pairing. We have really good actresses still making a work that it's worth like Lilly Bell, Octavia Red, Little Puck, Penny Barber, Sophia Locke, Seren Siren, Lana Smalls, Victoria Voxxx, etc and we now have two openly lesbian performers like Ophelia Fae and Freya Parker that are now going GG exclusive,soemthing I don't recall having in the so callled glorious 2010s. So, all of this pessimism for me is unwarranted.

And I agree with you, Sinn Sage has been producing many great lesbian scenes through these last years. Her strap on ones are just glorious!!!

Girl Crazy
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 1:54AM
If you see a post you don't like from me, just pretend it says, "Mommy, you are so good at that that I just turned 18 and we are going to get caught while stuck in the washing machine ooooooh fuuuuuck" or insert whatever pedo-tarded meme verbiage of your choice.
LezTrib
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 2:32AM
Yes, Mommy, you're so good at that because you don't even realise what ridiculous lines you come up with all the time.
BTW, if you're so knowledgeable, then go ahead and run this GG industry, which is slowly dying because of the nonsense scenes being served to subscribers.
whakamaakuukuu
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 3:06AM
That's quite curious, I appreciate Sinn Sage a lot but there were a few post that criticised her more recent stuff with vehemence.
I didn't understand why they thought that, so I'm glad to find other people who like her just like me.
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 8:07AM
I guess this studio has officially lost its mind 😂 Why are they releasing movies at such ridiculously short intervals? Are they running a movie factory or what? 🤣

And finally, we get Ophelia Fae's debut for an all-girl studio. LOL! 😂
The locations have changed big time and I like it
Pairings in this movie is good though

https://www.adultempire.com/5144371/lesbian-step-daughters-10-porn-videos.html

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Edited by - Danielmayu33216 on 10/9/2026 8:09:17 AM

whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 9:56AM
^What do you consider an all-girl studio because she's shot for AllHerLuv.
A better cast but I wish the pairings were as well. I'd have paid good money too see Sophia and Alison perform together again, Sophia's first GG scene with her short hair btw.
LezTrib
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 11:14AM
I never expected anything groundbreaking from a director whose resume primarily consists of shooting BG scenes, but I at least expected some novelty in the titles and concepts being used.
But this new director seems to be following the same old formula that's already everywhere in the GG scene: stepdaughters, stepmothers, and the same recycled concepts over and over again.
Btw, AllHerLuv operates under the Missax banner, whereas Girlfriends Films has its own independent banner and was founded in 2002.
Girlfriends Films is an all-girl-to-girl studio, whereas Missax isn't exclusively focused on that genre.
Anyway, my question is: Does anything actually change with a new director?
The answer is a big fat NOOOOOOO!

I'm just waiting for this studio to shut down soon because it has completely lost the credibility it once had.

Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 12:17PM
Sorry, mate, I forgot about AllHerLuv.
As far as Sophia and Alison are concerned, the title wouldn't really suit their pairing. The movie has already made two mistakes by pairing Ophelia with Isabella and Scarlett Moon with Kait, because neither pairing really gives off the stepdaughter vibe.
whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 12:31PM
^Didn't they play stepmother/daughter in that threesome with Casey Calvert?
 
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 1:28PM
What a casting man. The only woman old enough to be a stepmom is Sophia Locke. Don't this people know a performer in her 40s??? There is plenty and pretty talented. Hell, they could have cast Mindi Mink now that she has made a comeback with Sheseducedmn.
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 2:37PM
^There aren't many older women in the industry. Maybe Reagan Foxx, Gigi Dior, Cory Chase, Eva Long, or Annie King could have been cast, but the problem isn't the pairing itself; it's the movie's title, which doesn't do justice to the pairings.
Secondly, Mindi Mink's return with SheSeducedMe was justified because the videos are sometimes released first on performers' own content platforms, such as ManyVids and LoyalFans, before appearing on sheseducedme website.

Honestly, this movie should have been titled Dad's Lesbian Lover 5 instead of Lesbian Stepdaughters.

whakamaakuukuu
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 8:39PM
The insignificant age difference reminds me of the infamous fact about "The Manchurian Candidate" (1962) that Angela Lansbury is nowhere near old enough to be Raymond Shaw's mother yet is very convincing in the role.
A porn scene can't rely on the acting to dupe people in that way, also in porn so much more is revealed about a performer so it's less likely they could hide the lack of age difference.
Girl Crazy
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Posted - Oct 9 2026 : 9:03PM
Would have liked to have seen Megan Mistakes with Alexa Chains. I wish sites would put the good performers together more often.
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 10 2026 : 1:27AM
I want Lilly Bell and Dharma Jones to be paired together!
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 10 2026 : 3:52AM
I don't understand the title Dad's Lesbian Lover. If she's her dad's lover, how could she be a lesbian? It makes no sense.
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 10 2026 : 4:18AM
^I think we shouldn't discuss titles, at least now, because GFF has been using these kinds of titles for such a long time, and this will likely continue in the future until the majority of people who are still interested in this studio stop watching such titles movies on VOD/website.
I was just saying that the pairings would have justified the title Dad's lesbian Lover better than Stepdaughters, because, as you said, the pairings don't really include much older women with younger women.
Isa bella with Ophelia and Kait with Scarlett are both younger pairings!
As far as lesbians are concerned, apart from Ophelia, there may hardly be anyone left in the industry whom we can actually call a lesbian at this point.
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 10 2026 : 12:44PM
^Yes, I get is for publicity reasons they put this title, but it doesn't make any sense to me. About Lesbian stepdaughters, it really feels that maybe they think 40s or thirtysomething women are too old for their standards or maybe too high to pay for??? Anyway, at least they cast Sophia Locke. That's a good catch.
Danielmayu33216
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whyalwaysbilly
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^I genuinely don't know who either of those women are.
 
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 10 2026 : 2:49PM
^Mate, as a big fan of GG scenes, I guess they're still part of this industry, even if they haven't gained much popularity. But I really like Jazmin Black; her BG scenes are a treat to watch. The problem is that this industry can be incredibly cruel.
whyalwaysbilly
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^Oh that's Jazmin Black, ok yes I have heard of her.
whakamaakuukuu
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Jazmin's star-crossed, single page since January 1, 2026. Daniel has posted to it previously.

Edited by - whakamaakuukuu on 10/10/2026 11:39:41 PM

Danielmayu33216
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Whyspers2Scorpio
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Posted - Oct 16 2026 : 1:24AM
Some of the comments here are hysterically funny: the G/G side of things is far from dying out and the metrics say that GFF is doing just fine and $31 million dollars saying they are not anywhere near folding, lesbian porn remains incredibly popular and women love watching it because it feels far more realistic than B/G content.
LezTrib
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Posted - Oct 16 2026 : 2:27AM
I think people here must have come from a different planet because, judging by the GG scenes we're seeing today, they are far removed from any kind of realism.
The artificiality has gone so far that it's hard to imagine how things could get any worse. Many times, the performers look almost cartoonish, and naturalness has been lost big time.
The split scenes have made things even worse. Scene after scene is released every week, sometimes with just a day or two in between, and by then, you can barely even remember the last scene you watched.
The quality has reached its lowest point now.
And that 31 million figure is not a fact; it's a joke! If the GG industry were really making that much money, or if Girlfriends Studio were earning that much, they could easily have contacted or booked more experienced performers instead of relying so heavily on younger ones.
B. Skow wouldn't have been removed, and locations wouldn't have been changed if everything were going smoothly. If things were going so well, why would they need to make these changes?
Layoffs are happening, and feature films are not being made as frequently as they used to be. So, honestly, where is all this supposedly huge amount of money going?
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 16 2026 : 12:39PM
It's my subjective opinion, but I recommend watching the first scene between Sophia Locke and Cherry Candle in Lesbian Stepdaughters Volume 10. It was a hot scene!
I've watched only the first scene so far, and I'll submit my review of the entire movie in a few days. Until then, I'm happy to share that I really liked the 1st scene I have watched🙏
whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Oct 16 2026 : 1:40PM
^I loved it too. Tbh though, if it was Sophia with anyone else it would've been as good but if it was Cherry with anyone else it wouldn't have been as good, if that makes any sense
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 16 2026 : 1:59PM
I am glad you loved it, Sophia As usual was fantastic.
I haven't watched much of Cherry because, I guess, she mostly featured in scenes for SexArt.com, but she was good too.
Did you notice that the visuals have improved as well? Though, those who love B. Skow's direction and bright colors might feel differently about the scenes directed by the new director!

Edited by - Danielmayu33216 on 10/16/2026 2:01:15 PM

Whyspers2Scorpio
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Posted - Oct 16 2026 : 2:13PM
You may find this shocking but the pornographic tastes of two people unhappy with the current product do not outweight the majority which clearly is committed to GFF. They have entire websites devoted to the metrics of various companies, do enough poking around and you find quantifiable numbers. In the current environment where over the top comic book based movies reign supreme making billions of dollars, expecting a more grounded product is a ridiculous. Hentaied, Parasited, hell there was a horror themed porn scene involved teeth in a vagina for crying out loud that I commented on. Not my cup of tea but clearly someone had the idea and yes, layoffs are happening but that's more due to studios wanting to extort more money from the talent. There's a great piece on this by Cami Strella where she talks about the root of the issue; a major site offered to keep her on the books for studio work in exchange for taking over half her OF to handle it which basically involves robbing her blind when you consider that OF already takes a flat commission of 20% of all creator earnings. In essence, the studio side of the industry has not been able to adapt like individual creators have been able to and she goes onto to say that she hasn't shot a studio scene in months without any hit to her income. Her mental health is better as well, in her own words "That's the real shift nobody in the industry wants to say out loud: it's not that performers are turning down studios. It's that studios have priced and mismanaged themselves out of being relevant to performers who have other options. I have other options. So does almost everyone I know who's been doing this longer than a year or two." She goes onto to say that studio porn didn't lose to OF, it lost by not evolving accordingly and now it's trying to buy its way back in by taking a cut of the very thing it has ignored for years.

I suspect the new landscape of studio porn is going to belong to those who are in it for love of the art rather than just the business; who can create scenes and features that compell you to want to pay whatever fee or charge to see what they have cooked up because you trust their instincts. Granted that does mean making room for horror based or even scifi themed porn scenes but as long as they can crank out erotic material that stimulates my mind rather than just standard visuals in the typical 3-5 or 4-6 positions; I can accept that. Even more so when it is clear that full on orgasms are involved rather than a race to the finish line.

https://camistrella.substack.com/p/the-slow-obituary-of-studio-porn

Edited by - Whyspers2Scorpio on 10/16/2026 2:14:25 PM

 
whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Oct 16 2026 : 4:19PM
^^That's another point, I couldn't really care less who directs what scene. I know you really like Mike Quasar but for me personally I dont think he or any other director has a worse or better ratio of good/bad scenes, or rather scenes I like/don't like. What I'm getting at is if I like scene I like a scene, no matter who directs it. Again, if that makes any sense.
Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 20 2026 : 2:34AM
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https://www.adultempire.com/5147065/please-make-me-lesbian-part-28-porn-videos.html

I was initially excited to see more of Octavia Red, but now this studio has turned my excitement into a comedy show. 😂
More of Octavia Red will always be less of Octavia Red ❤️but when the studio starts releasing movies in bulk like there's no tomorrow!
Seriously, has the studio run out of revenue to pay performers, or are they betting everything on VOD sales to keep the lights on?

LezTrib
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Posted - Oct 20 2026 : 6:41AM
^This movie will win awards for sure, LOL! This studio, which I once loved the most, has declined way too much for my liking. After watching the trailer, I don't even feel like giving it a try.
I watched one scene featuring Ophelia Fae and Isa Bella from Lesbian Stepdaughters 10. The scene was okay, but the storyline was ridiculous and not even worth mentioning.
I was right when I said this studio has become Girlsway Part 2, nothing else.
They don't need a directional change anymore they need a complete mindset change when it comes to delivering quality content from now on.
Girl Crazy
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Posted - Oct 21 2026 : 12:18AM
Awards are not a barometer for anything other than some performers/site owners having fluffed the right people.

As far as that video set specifically, with that cast, it's gonna be more of the same bland, awkward, non-sex.

Gorgon
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Posted - Oct 21 2026 : 5:24PM
With all the doom and gloom about this studio I thought maybe I would occasionally bring up some of their releases from the past that I think were particularly good and maybe some have never seen or forgotten.

Today will be:

Lesbian Seductions Older/Younger 51 released May 29, 2015.

This one has exceptional casting which leads to three very good scenes and the fourth is still pretty good.

Scene 1: Brenda James/Heather Starlet is a slow sensual burn scene that is very tender and might not be everybody's taste but it is still pretty good.

Scene 2: Prinzzess/Misty Rain is very good and is a great pairing of an all time great in Misty with a top notch lesbian performer in Prinzzess.

Scene3: Cherie De Ville/Kasey Warner/Mindi Mink. Not usually a big fan of threesomes but this one works because the two older women really focus on the younger Kasey and they are all fantastic performers. Really good stuff.

Scene 4: Magdalene/Blair Summers. Blair is the least known of this cast and had a relatively short career but her performance in this scene is fantastic as she really gets down to it and of course Magdalene rarely disappoints.

This company has such a huge library that one could spend a long time just going through their archive finding forgotten gems or other scenes that at the time were deemed pretty ordinary but in our current times would be standouts.

Edited by - Gorgon on 10/21/2026 5:27:05 PM

LezTrib
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Posted - Oct 21 2026 : 9:39PM
^That's exactly what I've been ranting about! Look at what was being made back then. It was the kind of content that made a relatively small audience feel like it belonged to an actual genre.
A studio actually felt like a studio.
But nowadays, you can barely follow the storyline or listen to the ridiculous, unintentionally hilarious dialogue before another over-the-top sexual encounter takes over the screen.
Some people might argue that the movies made back then were considered ordinary, but at least they had something going for them. Today, even that essence seems to have disappeared. This whole mommy-themed incest material has practically taken over both this studio and Girlsway.
Performers will come and go, but when a studio's entire identity changes so drastically, you know its downfall is real.
The irony is that this studio once managed to turn ordinary movies and scenes into a whole experience. Now, it has completely lost the plot. First, we had some questionable directing, and then came those ridiculous, seemingly pre-planned scripts written by a few people who apparently think they're delivering comedy rather than compelling storytelling.
Honestly, the problem isn't that performers come and go. It's that the very essence of the studio has changed, and not for the better.

Edited by - LezTrib on 10/21/2026 9:40:19 PM

Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 21 2026 : 10:32PM
If I remember correctly, that first scene was also very hot and erotic, in my opinion. Heather Starlet's scenes are literally to die for! Her nervousness, resistance, and then the intensity she brought to her performance were so good. Yes, it was a slow burn, and it was fantastic. Some of the camera angles were awkward, but a good scene is always a good scene.
I can't keep living in the past, though, as some people seem to do. I try to enjoy what's in front of me rather than constantly criticising and comparing everything with different generations of performers, directors, scenes, and movies. Otherwise, you'll never be able to appreciate what's being made today.
The reality is that they're still running this studio business today, even if their business model is questionable and almost every aspect of their current approach can be criticised. At least they're still providing me with movies and scenes to watch.
Right now, my main focus is on accepting that what's gone is gone. Time doesn't stop, and people's behaviour changes. Their buying patterns change, too, and studios have to take those changes into account if they want to survive.
A studio's essence doesn't necessarily remain the same forever. I can give multiple examples of websites and studios that have changed because of the demands of the times or because they've had to face serious challenges, including piracy, recession, COVID, inflation, performers moving towards paywalls, and, most importantly, changing consumer preferences, with more people gravitating towards incest-themed content.
That's the reality of the business today. We can criticise the changes, question the decisions, and miss what studios used to be, but we also have to understand the circumstances in which they're operating now.

Edited by - Danielmayu33216 on 10/21/2026 10:33:06 PM

whakamaakuukuu
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Posted - Oct 22 2026 : 12:27AM
Gosh was she great! That was a fine era for quality performers, great stories. It seems so much in the past to some extent, not that there isn't still some fine performers and performances. She played everything so well, usually the more innocent. Great example I think is scene 1 of "Women Seeking Women 110"

Edited by - whakamaakuukuu on 10/22/2026 12:28:21 AM

LezTrib
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Posted - Oct 22 2026 : 2:50AM
Interview with Captain Jack:
CJ: "In all your years, who do you think are some of the better performers that you've directed?"
Dan(GFF ex-director): "As far as writing a story for a girl, I'd say Heather Starlet. I always find her so easy to write a character for."


What a damn good director Dan was! And the performers of that era? Honestly, I don't think we'll ever see their likes again in this genre. That's just my opinion.

Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 24 2026 : 12:58AM
Lesbian Stepdaughters Volume 10 full review will be coming soon.
I would also like to mention that a full review of "Please Make Me Lesbian 28" will come in the first week of November to celebrate Octavia Red's birthday in my own style. However, since I recently watched the scene featuring Octavia Red and Scarlett Alexis in this movie, I can confirm that it is very hot.
whyalwaysbilly
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...fuck

LezTrib
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Posted - Oct 27 2026 : 10:11AM
^Did you receive an email or something?
Its for UK citizens only do you live in UK?
whyalwaysbilly
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^Yes, yes and yes.

Edited by - whyalwaysbilly on 10/27/2026 10:27:01 AM

Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 27 2026 : 10:35AM
That sucks, man. Really ridiculous laws. These people are frantically idiots.

Be careful.

Danielmayu33216
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Posted - Oct 27 2026 : 11:08AM
^^^^The UK and US governments have damaged the industry with all these nonsensical rules & restrictions.

On one side, piracy websites are ruining studios on the other, AI-generated content is creating new challenges. And now, these restrictions are making things even worse.
Check their phones and laptops. I'm sure they watch this kind of content themselves! Lol!

Edited by - Danielmayu33216 on 10/27/2026 11:12:05 AM

Girl Crazy
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Oh no, no choking or pretending to be underage in porn, what a travesty. (Sarcasm)


And of course, some of the people who have put forth these laws possess the content themselves. The U.S. in particular has two major political teams, and one of those is chock full of pedophiles from top to bottom. In fact, the leader has participated in fully realized pedophile behavior and so has at least one of the special royal people in the U.K.

They are hypocrites, but the law only half-covers stuff that should have been covered already.

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