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| NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08 |  Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 3:08PMSure they do, especially if they want to expend a whole lot of energy in a fruitless endeavour.... Their "anger" isn't going to change a single thing. As long as people keep vilifying the word, empowering it as a negative, those who wish to do harm will employ it as part of their arsenal.... When it come to bigotry, it's not the words one needs to be concerned about... It's the bigots.   [Link] |
| Mr Springer Member You don't do more with less, you do less with less. 61 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 6:47PM I also never knew that "kaffir" was a racial slur. I heard it A LOT when I was a practicing Muslim, but only in reference to non believers. [Link] |
| NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 7:14PM Does it matter if a slur is 'racial' or not? [Link] |
| Mr Springer Member You don't do more with less, you do less with less. 61 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 7:29PM As for your question, I think it matters to whoever is in ear shot when the word is used. I never knew "kaffir" was used as a racial slur (probably because I don't know any South Africans), but I am very familiar with the term "kafir" or "kuffar," and I've heard a fair amount of black folk use the word. Kaffir and kaffir seem to have two totally different meanings--I suppose, to bring this thread back full circle, the same argument could be made with variations of the N word. I think I've answered your question, but I wasn't 100% sure what you were getting at. [Link] |
| NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 8:36PM Or is EVERY instance of a so-called 'slur' automatically hate speech? [Link] |
| Mr Springer Member You don't do more with less, you do less with less. 61 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jan 18 2009 : 10:59AM [Link] |
| NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jan 18 2009 : 11:02AM So all the whinging and moaning is baseless [Link] |
| julesjordanvideo JulesJordan.com Professional Perverts 1003 Posts 9/01 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 12:11PM [Link] |
Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 2:35PM Such terminology clearly causes outrage, yet so much other terminology aimed at women is taken as part and parcel of what porn "is" and doesn't seem to cause people to bat an eyelid. This whole thread, rather than striking me as encouraging because of all the anger at racism in the media, simply reminds me that misogyny is widely accepted as perfectly ok. The way non-white women are depicted, I won't even get into here. [Link] |
| Ida Lupino Deactivated User 429 Posts 11/08 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 3:22PM There could be DVDs of babies being incinerated, and if it was strokeworthy, no problema! [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 3:38PM The only thing they need to work on is their set-up like they have none. I can't stand it that almost all their action takes place on that couch, for good shots you need a bed IMO. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 3:57PM And by "thank you", I mean "I don't thank you". [Link] |
| Royal Tee Member 665 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 4:01PM Hushnate whill be here soon to tell us we should be spending our time worrying about Dafur are Swine Flu, because his compaines racist practices. [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 9:56PM Plus, it's good to see him post every now and then. [Link] |
| nateglass Member I must break you 201 Posts 12/05 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 11:17PM Jules Jordan's Black Owned 2 - "Gina Lynn's Jungle Fever" Jules Jordan distributed Racial Tension - "The only way to ease racial tension is a cum soaked riot" Jules Jordan distributed Racial Tension 2 - "Keanni stops a race riot with her mouth, pussy and ass!" Jules Jordan's Once You Go Black 4 - "These Little White Devils..." Pot meet kettle. Get over it and go back to reading your "Devotional Thread". Oh I noticed you removed some of your sponsored clips from Pornhub...surely you didn't do that on account of little ol' me? How do you feel about your good buddies at AVN mentioning Brazzers' links to tube sites this month? I hope a lot of retailers read the article. You gave some GREAT quotes, I especially enjoyed this one: "Do I agree with companies that advertise on tube sites, no, especially those that own copyrights" Gosh, who were you talking about there? Only names that come to mind are ummmm Bang, Reality Kings...and oh yeah...Brazzers. So is *Jules* (a white man btw) not in agreement with Brazzers' actions? Ya can't have it both ways. Oh and thanks for bumping our thread!!! Sorry killbill! Wasn't my fault this time. ;) Mod: Edited out the real names. It may be common knowledge but ADT as a rule does not name names. And be careful with some of your statements. Please give the etiquette a read. Edited by - heynow on 5/3/2009 11:39:00 PM Edited by - nateglass on 5/3/2009 11:49:24 PM [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - May 3 2009 : 11:52PM [Link] |
| nateglass Member I must break you 201 Posts 12/05 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 12:09AM Might wanna let Jules know that. He takes things so seriously. Except when his titles refer to women as bitches or sluts. Or when he distributes titles that use some pretty edgy age-play. See those things are ok according to Jules Jordan, but other things aren't. Jules - when they said you were the "king of gonzo", it wasn't an actual title dude. You don't get to decree law. And I wasn't trying to throw MJ's titles under the bus TVS. I've loved MJ's work since way back in the Anabolic days. All I was trying to show is that we ALL play off of racial themes. For Jules to sit and bash Hush Hush while he makes movies calling women bitches is absolutely ludicrous. And for Jules to jump in and bump a thread just to bash Hush Hush, mainly because of his beef with me, is pretty pathetic. Jules, all you're doing is making yourself look bad while giving me waaaaaaay more street cred. I'm close to breaking out of my "total nobody" status. Keep this up and pretty soon people will actually care what I think. [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 12:40AM [Link] |
| julesjordanvideo JulesJordan.com Professional Perverts 1003 Posts 9/01 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 3:05AM [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 3:35AM Is this what they're teaching PR majors in college these days? I think it's a big leap from smutty box cover lingo to gratuitous racial slurs. Then again, I remember when public schools were integrated in the deep South in 1964, and that word had a very different impact back then. I can appreciate the comic, colloquial usage, but not for the sake of selling some mediocre porno. I'm sure there is some truth to stripping a slur of its power ("faggot" and "whore" don't mean what they used to) but let's leave that to the people who deal with the consequences of the word. Not whitey. As Snoop Dogg might say, Nephew, please! Edited by - skronker on 5/4/2009 3:44:50 AM [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 5:43AM [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 5:52AM |
| nateglass Member I must break you 201 Posts 12/05 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 9:19AM Especially when neither party is making any movies to inflict harm on anyone. [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 3:06PM [Link] |
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| Royal Tee Member 665 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 4:33PM There are men that live in manison that get drunk and beat their wives. It doesn't only happen in trailer homes. Know what I mean? [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 4 2009 : 5:24PM On the other hand, the word nigger (what's less offensive about saying "the N word" instead?) is a special case, connoting a severity of disrespect to African Americans: slavery, lynchings, terrorism and the continuing more subtle if no less injuruious racism today. They are entitled to be offended by it. Women were never slaves per se in America. But until very recent times they were second class citizens, could not vote, own property, could not institute divorce against a husband They could be beaten, even with the blessing of the law, and cast out penniless by a husband on a whim with no resort to due process. They too died and suffered to change all that. I suppose there's a difference in degree of offence between "nigger" and "Bitches, Wores, sluts, etc. but all are contemptible terms that have noproper place in the titles of porn or in the titles of anything else. [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 1:06AM I, for one, am tired of people trying to compare racist language to behavioral language. Didn't KillBill already address this silly comparison earlier in this thread? Yet, people are still trying to use it to rationalize their foolish bigotry. [Link] |
| rambo99ca Deactivated User ca 406 Posts 3/06 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 1:54AM [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 8:09AM Racism resulted in very much worse treatment of African Americans than most women have ever endured because of their sex. Does that mean that they have no right to complain because African Americans had it worse? Is a woman not entitled to equate being paid less with a black person being paid less because her ancestors were not brought here packed in ships like sardines? How does the suggestion that 'slut' and 'nigger' are both derogatory and demeaning words rationalize bigotry? No one in their right mind could suggest that bigotry in any form is reasonable, and the fact that the word 'nigger' connotes an injustice far more injurious to African Americans than 'slut' does to women does not mean that one term is demeaning and the other is not. [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 10:43AM [Link] |
| geekmeat Member 117 Posts 2/09 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 3:00PM You see "white trash" titles and racist stuff against asians and latins but you NEVER see anything derogatory about Jews. [Link] |
| duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 3:31PM You see "white trash" titles and racist stuff against asians and latins but you NEVER see anything derogatory about Jews. ___________________________________________________ Sounds as though you are saying there ought to be anti-semitic porn. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 3:50PM Thank you. [edit: sorry got confused who was saying what. fixed.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/5/2009 4:02:53 PM [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 4:44PM [Link] |
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| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 7:14PM [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 7:15PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 7:50PM edit: I'm a fuckin idiot because i finally realized you were referencing the offending movie title skronker. i am so, so dumb. OK now continue with the rest of the post. But um, yeah. Since Patti Smith (a white person) said it, it must therefore be true. I know Patti was just trying to say ni**er as many times as she could to demonstrate that it's 'just a word', but in doing so she failed (or refused) to recognize that it's not actually 'just a word'. "Jimi Hendrix was a nigger. Jesus Christ and Grandma, too. Jackson Pollock was a nigger." The difference, Patti, is that if Jackson put on a suit and tie, then he would be just some dude, and none of the conservative/racist types would have any problem with him. Jimi could put on a tux, a space suit or a monk's robe, and he's still a ni**er no matter what. And even if the word were used so much that it did become devoid of meaning, Jackson still wouldn't be a ni**er in the same way as Jimi was. Because even if "ni**er" no longer existed as a slur, the institutional racism behind the word that continues to affect African-Americans will continue to exist in the same capacity as it does now, unless some kind of change far greater than removing meaning from a word could ever do. Sorry Patti. You can rock with the best of them but in this case: FAIL. [edit: the usual. fucked up sentences, typos.] [edit2: comment in italics up there ^ ] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/6/2009 12:22:30 PM [Link] |
| Crucifixio_Jones Senior Member Arrogant & Obnoxious Narcissist 4727 Posts 10/03 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 8:18PM Ten minutes of my life I'll never get back. Fuck this dumb-ass thread.  [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 8:41PM I avoid their titles like the plague for precisely this reason. Their titles are not funny or satirical -- and they're not really intended to be. The correct term for this kind of crap is "kidding on the square" -- the goal being to try to get away with a racist agenda by cloaking it in false humor. [Link] |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | Posted - May 5 2009 : 9:08PM [Link] |
| JAGnLA All-Star Member people pay me NOT to get naked 1944 Posts 2/04 | Posted - May 9 2009 : 2:11AM [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 9 2009 : 8:12AM But while I have their attention in this thread: when are you guys gonna give some Hindu guy a chance to appear in your movies ;-) Edited by - Ramsey on 5/9/2009 3:42:53 PM [Link] |
| nateglass Member I must break you 201 Posts 12/05 | Posted - May 9 2009 : 11:02AM [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 9 2009 : 3:47PM Dress him up as a Guru and call the movie The Real Love Guru ;-) [Link] |
| nateglass Member I must break you 201 Posts 12/05 | Posted - May 9 2009 : 6:28PM 11am - Meet with Department Director to discuss new microchips 1145am - Lunch with Nancy 1230pm - Go show cock to guys at World Modeling 1pm - Complete office inventory order [Link] |
| JAGnLA All-Star Member people pay me NOT to get naked 1944 Posts 2/04 | Posted - May 10 2009 : 2:57AM I guess we just don't appreciate the same type of porn, you & I. However, I DO agree that I too liked the Ramon stuff. "I like to watch" [Link] |
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