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Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 11:17AM Her first day of sobriety was April 6th. I remember because it's my half-birthday. [Link]
popdog Member 865 Posts 5/05	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 12:35PM I don't get all the Drew hatred. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 12:50PM ^ He's a condescending douchebag. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 2:15PM Savoy wrote: ..... Makes you think that her entire adult career was just an extension of her 12-year-old attitude towards sex. Kinda makes me feel icky about enjoying her so much. ....... Click to expand Porn as a whole kind of makes me feel icky, these days. I think there are probably a lot of people in porn who have that "12-year old" conception of sex, and it shows. As performer, she was special as she was able to convincingly fake intimacy, while at the same time, never really experiencing it in her personal life. [Link]

joachim Senior Member 03 12 15 16 18 04 07 13 18 2285 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 6:44PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: it's no worse than the crap that people think is good because it wins Emmys Click to expand You mean like Mad Men? Oh shit, did I say that out loud? [Link]
joachim Senior Member 03 12 15 16 18 04 07 13 18 2285 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 6:47PM Harri Patel wrote: I thought she had vowed never to return there, after having to do time for the drunk-jet-skiing incident. Click to expand Funny thing, that was the premise of a scene she did in Intimate Invitation 8. Ariel X has to bail her out of jail and bring her a towel. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 6:54PM joachim wrote: Gore Gore Girl wrote: it's no worse than the crap that people think is good because it wins Emmys Click to expand You mean like Mad Men? Oh shit, did I say that out loud? Click to expand *Applause* "The Emperor's New Clothes" is one fable that never becomes irrelevant. [Link]
jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 7:15PM It's always possible that something thinks it's good because they actually like it. I'm thinking Mad Men here. [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 7:35PM Clam Digger wrote: I think there are probably a lot of people in porn who have that "12-year old" conception of sex, and it shows. As performer, she was special as she was able to convincingly fake intimacy, while at the same time, never really experiencing it in her personal life. Click to expand No doubt, she is an awesome actress. Just never realized how far the acting went. And to think I particularly liked her schoolgirl roleplay. ::shudder:: I'm going to PERVERT JAIL!!!! [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 11 2009 : 8:03PM ^Don't worry they have fur lined hand cuffs there. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 12 2009 : 8:33AM joachim wrote: Gore Gore Girl wrote: it's no worse than the crap that people think is good because it wins Emmys Click to expand You mean like Mad Men? Oh shit, did I say that out loud? Click to expand Oh yes, indeed. Let's throw them all in - House being a particular one that people round my way seem to think is high quality, while they routinely turn their nose up at my media tastes. I'm not saying what I watch is high quality, but it's ridiculous for them to think their tastes are superior. Anyway, I happen to get a lot out of Real Chance of Love - it's ripe for a feminist interpretation of racialized stereotypes. Yay! [Link]
Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04	Posted - Nov 13 2009 : 11:16PM I just watched a few minutes of it tonight during commercials on other more worthy programming. What a fucking joke. Dr. Quack has Penny so fucked up that she was crying about how terrible she was because she took the virginity of so many boys. Give me a break. While they may hypocritically consider her a whore they are grateful that she let them fuck her. I think Dr. Quack took advantage of Penny's possible alcoholism and while she was at her most vulnerable sent her on a sexual guilt trip of monumental proportions. [Link]
mbmalpha137 Member 386 Posts 8/08	Posted - Nov 13 2009 : 11:39PM How the hell do you spin taking a boys virginity in to a bad thing. [Link]
DarkPlaces Member 477 Posts 3/07	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 12:48AM popdog wrote: I don't get all the Drew hatred. Click to expand He's taking away the porn fantasy girl and showing how she came from a damaged life. Clearly he's evil. Porn fans need to grow up. God forbid you people learn how beef gets to your table or Nike gets on your feet. It's not a pretty world and sometimes the things you like the most come from ugly places. Either give them up or deal with it, but don't whine about how the truth is ruining your ability to jerk off with a clear conscience. And the girl who was molested repeatedly as a child, raped twice as a teenager and clearly has a drug problem is the most troublesome!?! Who'd think a life of pain and violation would lead to her not being Miss Mary Sunshine!?! Next you'll be telling me water is wet! How dare she not keep that away so we don't have to see it!?! [Link]

mbmalpha137 Member 386 Posts 8/08	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 1:24AM Miss Mary Sunshine would make a good porn star. [Link]
Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 1:32AM Quiet, Captain Save A Ho. Dr. Drew is a quack and should not have a medical license. He parades broken people around on TV hoping there will be conflict and emotional breakdowns all for our viewing pleasure. (Whatever happened to doctor/patient privilege? I know that's a legal concept but this show makes it look pretty stupid). He sees people at their nadir and then convinces them they have additional "problems". He's nothing more than a street hustling con artist who might as well be bilking people by giving astrological readings. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 9:51AM Clam Digger wrote: ^Don't worry they have fur lined hand cuffs there. Click to expand Yeah...but Dr. Drew runs the place and will stare at you for long periods of time without saying anything...driving you to near insanity. It's got to be worse than water-boarding. Edited by - fu_q on 11/14/2009 5:07:20 PM [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 3:06PM mbmalpha137 wrote: How the hell do you spin taking a boys virginity in to a bad thing. Click to expand When you get called out by your school mates on the play ground with the ditty, "1234 Jenny Ketchum is a wore", She had to change schools. Those who pay more attention to Dr. Drew then the patients, IMHO are missing the point. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 3:20PM Dean Wormer wrote: I just watched a few minutes of it tonight during commercials on other more worthy programming. What a fucking joke. Dr. Quack has Penny so fucked up that she was crying about how terrible she was because she took the virginity of so many boys. Give me a break. While they may hypocritically consider her a whore they are grateful that she let them fuck her. I think Dr. Quack took advantage of Penny's possible alcoholism and while she was at her most vulnerable sent her on a sexual guilt trip of monumental proportions. Click to expand Dr. Drew did no such thing. All of these people came there under their own free will. There are no jokes here. It's not about the boys she took the virginity of, its about Jenny Ketchum. If you actually were paying any attention, its not really about the sex, but about the lack of intimacy. She has been unable to share her soul, hopes and dreams with anyone else. Of course that may not be a problem for you. Before you pop off again, go read her blog over the last 6 months, that is if you are interested in more then just flaming the thread. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 3:34PM I don't dislike Drew because he's ruining the porn fantasy - that's utterly ridiculous for a number of reasons, including the fact that I am not well acquainted with any of the porn people on the show, I watched the Rehab shows before this one and hated him then too, and finally I am probably more aware of the things that go on and have gone on in the lives of sex workers than you, so there aren't really any more surprises or fantasies for me. To address the whole "taking a boy's virginity" issue - I found that whole thing disturbing because a) Drew wasn't making her feel any better about whether or not she is a "whore" - the playground abuse and fact that she had a hard time is predominantly because of societal attitudes toward women and sex; and b) the double standard involved regarding abuse/molestation - girls who go around systematically sleeping with boys are let off the hook - "You didn't do anything wrong" - while boys who do the same are seen as abusers. This is a double standard. Furthermore, there wasn't really any detailed explanation of what the dynamics of these sexual encounters were. I also find it unsettling that there was no interrogation of Jennie's first sexual experience - she said she enjoyed it, but there was obviously something else to it - yet it was immediately assumed to be abusive - why? Because she was young? Because she is female? Maybe it was a bad experience, and she felt bad for her enjoyment - maybe there's more to it than this. Point is, any experience articulated on that show is classified according to preconceived notions, and then Drew and his cronies put words in the participant's mouth - "You blame yourself" "You're looking for that in this" or whatever. They often seem to make the addict feel worse about themselves, in a way that's based on simplistic cultural notions. It sickens me sometimes. That's why I was so thrilled when he got called out by the British guy. Good for him. [Link]
mbmalpha137 Member 386 Posts 8/08	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 3:49PM Going on a show like this to make all this stuff public wont help, they are just exploiting her. I never understood the idea of paying people or letting people make money off of you all in the guise of self help. The more messed up you are, the more messed up they can make you seem the more money they will make. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 4:03PM Therapy is about the exploration, by the patient, of their own emotions or feelings, as a method of confronting there own demons. It's not happy hour, else hits of cocaine and marijuana, along with booze, would be on the menu. A therapist is a guide, and nothing more, to help a patient identify the causes of their problems. Once identified, by the patient, the therapist can help suggest strategies to help the patient over come their problems. A therapist is not Dr. Feelgood. What we are seeing in these early episodes, is the patients beginning their own self exploration. Dr. Drew and the other therapists are helping the patients peel away the scare tissue of some really deep wounds. It is not the therapist's role to judge patients one way or another. Whatever you or I or Dr. Drew thinks of a 12 year old girl taking the virginities of dozens adolescent boys, is not relevant. In the end its about what Jenny thinks about it and how she deals with it. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 4:17PM ^ Yeah, I think we all understand that. I'm saying Dr. Drew sucks as a therapist. [Link]
mbmalpha137 Member 386 Posts 8/08	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 6:12PM Everything you said is pretty much true, the thing I have the most problem with is this, "therapist is a guide" if they are payed for a show they may guide them in ways that a private therapist wouldn't. I think some stuff is better if its not out there for everyone to know about and use it against you, but that's my view. If having all this out publicly actually ends up helping I guess that's what matters. [Link]

Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 6:21PM mbmalpha137 wrote: they are just exploiting her. Click to expand It's mutual. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 6:55PM mbmalpha137 wrote: Everything you said is pretty much true, the thing I have the most problem with is this, "therapist is a guide" if they are payed for a show they may guide them in ways that a private therapist wouldn't. I think some stuff is better if its not out there for everyone to know about and use it against you, but that's my view. If having all this out publicly actually ends up helping I guess that's what matters. Click to expand The patients chose to make it public. Any therapist doing their job, is basically neutral to the process. If it was you who was suffering this kind of addiction, you might choose to keep it private. But in the end, it would be your decision. Remember, you are not necessarily seeing Dr. Drew's entire interaction with the patients, but snippets of them. The focus is on the patients and their struggles, not Dr. Drew. The purpose of this show, and others like it, is to be a window to the viewers, to show how debilitating addictions are, and how they can be addressed and conquered. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 11:32PM No self-respecting therapist would agree to have someone's therapy broadcast on TV. /thread [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Nov 14 2009 : 11:40PM ^ +1 Edited by - fu_q on 11/14/2009 11:40:56 PM [Link]
Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04	Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 12:36AM Clam Digger wrote: Before you pop off again, go read her blog over the last 6 months, that is if you are interested in more then just flaming the thread. Click to expand Clam, only you would think it possible to flame the subject of this thread. I stand by my previous statement. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 12:58AM I guess you aren't so good at puns. [Link]
Chandra88 Member 11 Posts 11/09	Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 3:50AM Dr Drew suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuxxxxxx!!!!!! Go Penny! Go Penny! [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 11:41PM Not much of Penny in this episode. Just a few zingers. I love how they kept in that whole , "traditionally, a patient like Kari Ann would be removed", but we're making tv, people so she STAYS!! Kari Ann I love how she kept calling Kendra, "tranny face" when Kari Ann has got granny face. Tired looking brat. Nice edit, jrsl76 [Link]
BrekkyDJ Member Australia 246 Posts 10/06	Posted - Nov 15 2009 : 11:45PM Anyone know some sites online where I can view the show? One site so far doesn't allow those outside the USA to watch it :( BrekkyDJ (a Jennie Ketcham fan) [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 12:11AM VH1 is posting the episodes after they premiere along with extended or cut scenes. Episode previews too. Sex Rehab with Dr. Drew [Link]

BrekkyDJ Member Australia 246 Posts 10/06	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 8:09AM Savoy wrote: VH1 is posting the episodes after they premiere along with extended or cut scenes. Episode previews too. Sex Rehab with Dr. Drew Click to expand Sadly that link is blocked for those outside North America :( [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 11:06AM Sorry. Don't know what to tell you. I think anything else would be illegal. [Link]
jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 11:40AM Brekky, use a proxy based in the US. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 11:58AM jrsl76, Since have worked on the show, can you tell us if the patients are paid or do they simply barter the therapy for the appearance? [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 12:01PM Do you think they are doing all this for free?! Did you hear Kari Ann's manager? "DON'T LEAVE!!! You cannot leave." hahaha [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 12:02PM jrsl76 wrote: Brekky, use a proxy based in the US. Click to expand Translation into simpleton terms for me, please? [Link]
Cupid Stunt Senior Member Luton Piss On Watford... Tis True 1352 Posts 4/08	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 12:06PM ^ + 1 [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 1:28PM Savoy wrote: Do you think they are doing all this for free?! Did you hear Kari Ann's manager? "DON'T LEAVE!!! You cannot leave." hahaha Click to expand I know, this is ridiculous. It's showing up Drew and Co. though, which I enjoy. [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 1:31PM The look on his face when Kari Ann went in the bathroom and dismissed him when he and Jill went into coddle her. Bwahahaha! [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 1:36PM Why does the cast trudge around draped in blankets, wearing scarves, multiple layers of clothing, etc.? It's fucking Pasadena, not Gstaad. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 2:20PM Savoy wrote: The look on his face when Kari Ann went in the bathroom and dismissed him when he and Jill went into coddle her. Bwahahaha! Click to expand That was classic. Yes, Kari Ann was being completely horrible, but boy do I love seeing that "sad face" Drew turn a shade of pale, followed by what I call the "Drew pout" - where his lips get all tight. It's a subtle remove from "sad face" and occurs when he doesn't know what to say. [Link]
Cupid Stunt Senior Member Luton Piss On Watford... Tis True 1352 Posts 4/08	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 2:32PM Harri Patel wrote: Why does the cast trudge around draped in blankets, wearing scarves, multiple layers of clothing, etc.? It's fucking Pasadena, not Gstaad. Click to expand you've obviously never been i rehab and i'm jealous of you [Link]
popdog Member 865 Posts 5/05	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 2:55PM Clam Digger wrote: jrsl76, Since have worked on the show, can you tell us if the patients are paid or do they simply barter the therapy for the appearance? Click to expand They are paid. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 6:48PM So then they have to pay for the therapy? [Link]
jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 6:56PM No, they are paid to appear and are essentially getting both exposure and treatment. [Link]
The Ghost of Cal Jammer Senior Member 2207 Posts 7/09	Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 6:58PM Penny Flame is cool as fuck. She's pretty and smart and funny. She has the best pure acting skills of any porn star I have seen since I started watching porn 20 years ago. She is a talented woman in more ways than one. If she ever decided that she wants to quit porn (I hope she doesn't, but that's for purely selfish reasons) I think she could have a nice, lucrative career on the legit (hah!) side of the entertainment biz. [Link]

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