Yeah, I was using the judge thingy as a sign of my final agreement, like "case closed" kind of thing. I wasn't questioning your opinion, I was praising it
I have no complaint about anal sex in porn. And I'm not the one who is complaining here. I'm simply responding to someone else's statement that some fans are pressuring porn stars into having anal sex in their scenes. And since I'm one of those porn fans who has occasionally tried to persuade some porn ladies to have anal sex. I feel it is necessary to defend my actions. And I think I'm doing a pretty good job of defending my actions. Because so far no one has offered any good reason why porn fans like me shouldn't use their freedom of speech to express their feelings and wishes to their porn-idols. If you are completely satisfied with anal porn and there is nothing else you want to see besides that which is being offered. Then good for you. But speak for yourself only. And don't speak for me. Because I would like to see something else. Porn for me is not just some mechanical sex-act where any lady will do, as long as she performs anal sex. I'm a fan of certain ladies in porn because I find them very attractive. And perhaps I'm little infatuated with them. And it's specifically these ladies that I want to see perform anal sex acts and not some other ladies. I have no wish to force anyone to do something that they don't want to do. But there is nothing wrong with asking the lady politely. And since when did asking politely become 'forcing'?
There isn't anything wrong with asking. But if the lady has been in porn for a while and she hasn't appeared in any anal scenes, you have to reckon there's a reason. Maybe she's just holding out so she'll have something "new" left to do later on. Maybe she hates anal sex. Maybe she doesn't mind anal sex in her private life but doesn't really want to do it on camera. But whatever the case may be, there's obviously a reason why she isn't doing it and the reasons, whatever they are, are her decision to make. But in any case, it would be prudent to search the forum and see if she hasn't actually answered the question previously. I think what gets irritating is people keep asking the same thing over and over. Even if you just landed here yesterday, it's likely any question you could have has been discussed. And again. I don't see how you can say there's nothing out there that you wanna see. Because there's just been a ton of anal porn made and some very gorgeous women have been featured in it. It may not be the exact girl you want to see but that's life as a porn fan. I've been jacking off to porn since I was 18. I'm 34 now. I've had to deal with the fact that some of the girls I really like simply don't do the kind of porn I like. There's nothing really wrong with asking. But like I said, if she's been around a while and hasn't done it yet, you likely know the answer before you even ask. So it kind of looks like you're bugging her about it.
I have no way of bugging individual porn stars because I don't know their home phone numbers or any other personal information. And I'm not interested in contacting them that way. I can only say in public discussion groups such as this, what kind of sex I'd like to see certain porn ladies have. I'm simply expressing my wishes. And I don't see how this is any better or worse than what other people are saying here. But one of the reasons why a porn star may not be having anal sex is because she might think that not many of her fans are interested in watching her do it. And if many of her fans start saying in a public forum such as this that they do want to see her have anal sex. Then this might be the reason why she would change her mind. Are you suggesting that this kind of anal lobbying is somehow illegitimate or wrong? Is she not free to say yes or no? And is she not free to ignore this forum, if she doesn't like what people are saying here? It seems to me that you are trying to restrict the freedom of speech here in order to serve your own interests, and not those of some porn stars. Perhaps you don't like anal sex that much. And you are trying to impose your personal taste on others by seeking to prohibit anal lobbying.
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Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 12:40AM
"freedom of speech" Maybe I read it wrong but it sounds like RP is just trying to say that there is no real point in any kind of silly "anal lobbying". Nobody wants to get hounded about performing a certain sex act, not even porn stars. Also, since when do concepts like "freedom of speech" apply to online message boards which you do not own? People get deactivated all the time for spouting ridiculous crap. If you look around you might find that "freedom of speech" type arguments do not really apply very well when they are about things posted on a message board that you do not moderate or own.Maybe not. But it definitely does a good job of filling the air with useless noise. Or rather pointless text.
That which is useless noise for one person is useful information for another. If you don't care about what I have to say here. Then you are welcome not to read it. But as long as whatever I say is within the rules of this forum. Then I have as much right to say it as anybody else has. Last time I checked, no one appointed you to be the moderator here. And it's not up to you to judge and/or censor whatever I have to say here. If you have a complaint about what I have to say. Then you are welcome to complain to the moderators of this forum.
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 11:38PM
^^^^^ More useless noise from Dan. You don't know how quoting works, eh? It is not necessary to quote whole posts.
Please provide a link to this mysterious online bill of rights that you seem to like so much.
Yeah? And I can't make fun of a person for saying they are an "anal lobbyist"? You are a laugh riot. Edited by - conquistador on 1/11/2008 6:50:18 AM
Let those who don't want none cherish the memories of not gettin' any! 46 Posts 11/07
Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 9:21PM
Rough, hard anal sex could also cause rectal or lower intestinal prolapses, where part of the rectum or lower intestine starts folding back inside itself and it could extend and swell, causing blockage. Even slight prolapses do not heal themselves and must be surgically corrected, often by re-section, which in turn, could cause fecal leakage, resulting in abdominal infection and/or death. If you're both so hell-bent on doing it: LADIES: Take the time to warm up and loosen up good. Spend a small fortune on personal lubricants like K-Y, Astroglide, etc. and use them more than generously. AVOID: Vaseline, hand lotion, baby oil. Vaseline is hard to both get off of and out of you. The others will absorb into your tissues, essentially leaving you unlubricated. MEN: It simply cannot be stressed enough. Respect your lady, exercise manly restraint, let her warm up and loosen up good and, above all, TAKE IT EASY with her. You've got you popper in her pooper. You want to GENTLY hump her hiney, not shatter her shitter! "Be like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich and keep it!" Edited by - BecuzDGreatOneSez on 1/15/2008 9:12:28 PM
I was thinking the same thing, about the same girls as well Arditti. I would add Bridgette Kirkove, Alica Klass, Shyla Styles, Brooke Ballentine, Lucy Lee, Alica Rhodes, and any of the Euros that do anal all the time, just insert...........name here. They would have been hindered some by the poundings they take too. We are on the same wave length on these babes and the way they fuck!
The thing is, as far as I see it, that prolapses are not created from painful anal play but the opposite! There are many girls out there who enjoy anal and thats the ones who have prolapses in the making, just look at girls like aline, annette schwarts, kat, flower, etc. It seems to be the orgasms that is the reason behind them, that they are pushing so hard when they cum.
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Posted - Jan 16 2008 : 5:00PM
Back to the injuries topic. Sunrise Adams quit doin anal due to tears she received from a vicious Vince Vouyeur pounding in Initiations 8. Too bad. I'd love to see that pretty pooper poked over and over again.
Ugh, rectal prolapse has to be one of the most disgusting things ive seen in porn. Its an obvious sign that the person ass has taken some serious abuse to it. For whatever reasons, you have some directors who i assume think its sexy for a womens inner rectal area to be protruding out her asshole. As if it was for me being director, I would have HAD TO make sure that scene was edited out. Not only is it a turn-off, it fucked up the entire movie for me. (Not to mention my lunch)
Good timing. I just spoke at AEE and Internext about injuries to performers on porn sets. And will be moderating a panel at XBiz as to the issue of work related injuries on porn sets. A case just came down from the Work Comp Appeals Board in Santa Monica holding that a performer that contracted HIV on set is in fact an employee of the production company and must be covered by WC insurance. The same standard will apply to rough anal sex. I suspect you will see a slow down in production of this type of content in the future. All the performers who have suffered injury do to rough anal sex can now file for work comp benefits. It wont be hard to prove injury either. I use to represent Warner Bros, Fox, Universal ect. And in regards to cumulative injuries suffered by stunt people, we merely took the total value of the claim determined how many stunts that person did for each studio over the course of their career and divided the money according to the days worked. It really wouldnt be that much different in regards to an anal injury suffered by a performer. Anal injuries can be determined to be a 100% disability in California and could be very costly to studios if claims are made. Michael www.adultbizlaw.com
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Its a fetish that some are into. Prolapses are extremely rare during anal sex. More likely to occur during strenuous bowel movements or child labor. Check out Alya Mia videos for those interested. Her lower intestine sticks out 3 to 4 inches. DirtyDirector.com also has a video. Terrifying.
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140 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 24 2008 : 2:41PM
I'm just interested in the other ! ronin3, please give the title of the movie. I love Kat and her gapes, this one sounds crazy the way you described it... As for this topic I rode really clownistic posts. Always the same fantaisies and preconceptions about anal sex (forget the anus that cannot retract anymore and the associated diapers legend it's totally impossible, fear cancer that will do the job efficiently and which you generally cannot prevent in any way) and their alleged consequences in a halo of guilt and moral/social wonderings that surrounds all the pornography. As being concerned I sake and found information from proctological studies but unfortunately the documents are in french so you couldn't understand. Here are the conclusions of these physicians : - anal sex is not dangerous if practiced with a human dick ; frequency of the acts or penetration speed for example have nothing harmful ; it cannot lead to hemorroïds ; biological values are normal - it is dangerous and causes injuries in special fetishes that are occuring mainly amongst homosexuals : machines, big dildoes, some type of irritating enemas... A precision concerning Amee Donovan and her gangbang : Amee had numerous genital and anal/rectal problems, she clarified it a post on this forum, just seek for more precision. As I remember it had anything to do with a particular scene, she alleged she worked too much in a too short period. She appeared to be a strong girl that didn't at all attacked the business. Katja Kassin said in another post that she probably won't ever do as much anal as some homosexuals and she's totally right. Even if she's a prolific anal performer she never encountered a serious problem and that doesn't astonish me at all. In the other hand, dicks seen in porn are really uncommon and that could be the most dangerous factor for girls. The studies are conducted in general population, not porn community where the male organs are much more big, so there can remain some doubts about the possibility of extrapolation of the meta-analysis.
Let those who don't want none cherish the memories of not gettin' any! 46 Posts 11/07
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 12:56AM
I've been referring all along to internal rectal and intestinal prolapses, the kind you cannot see from the outside, not external anal prolapses. Besides, what do you mean by "pushing so hard when they cum"? "Be like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich and keep it!"
Let those who don't want none cherish the memories of not gettin' any! 46 Posts 11/07
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 1:15AM
Does the woman experience any other kind of discomfort after shooting an anal scene? Abdominal? Does she feel sick in the slightest? What all does she experience after anal sex? I know she has to have a high-reaching cleansing enema before the scene but what about after? Let's say an anal scene is the last scene shot in a day. What does she physically have to do after the shot is finished before she can get dressed and go home for the day? I'm not a porn producer but I'm going to take an educated guess and say another enema is in order to clean her out again. What does she have to do? "Be like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich and keep it!"
Let those who don't want none cherish the memories of not gettin' any! 46 Posts 11/07
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 1:35AM
I have reached a decision on this matter. As much of a Bree Olson fan I have been, based on external evidence I have seen, Bree Olson is too fragile for anal sex and needs to get out of that part of the business. She's not even 22 years old yet and already she has badly deformed and unnaturally enlarged her anus. She obviously can't take it and is pushing her body too hard. Katja Kassin herself said that anal sex isn't for everyone. I love you Bree but I have no desire to see you irreparably damage that part of your body to the point to where you essentially have to wear adult diapers or worse, have a colostomy bag permanently attached to you for the rest of your life. "Be like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich and keep it!" Edited by - BecuzDGreatOneSez on 1/25/2008 1:37:53 AM
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Edard Balladur Deactivated User
140 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 3:02AM
I wonder if some people can be helped in any way quiting their beliefs. @BecuzDGreatOneSez "Besides, what do you mean by "pushing so hard when they cum"?" Put something in your ass, go back and forth at high speed and you will have a rectal contraction a little bit like when you defecate. During this you can see the rectum contracting and the anus is left open a while. That's a high pleasure you encounter in anal sex and that you're totally unaware of it seems. "What does she physically have to do after the shot is finished before she can get dressed and go home for the day? I'm not a porn producer but I'm going to take an educated guess and say another enema is in order to clean her out again" What else do you want to wash after all have been washed and evacuated for hours ?! Is a man's dick so dirty you think a rectum need to be washed after being in contact with it ? "As much of a Bree Olson fan I have been, based on external evidence I have seen, Bree Olson is too fragile for anal sex and needs to get out of that part of the business. She's not even 22 years old yet and already she has badly deformed and unnaturally enlarged her anus. She obviously can't take it and is pushing her body too hard." The only evidence is you're able to melt guilt with your sexual desires. That's so common, a lot of men are like you, and we all have been through in a way or another. "I love you Bree but I have no desire to see you irreparably damage that part of your body to the point to where you essentially have to wear adult diapers or worse, have a colostomy bag permanently attached to you for the rest of your life" That's impossible ! I just wrote lines about it a few posts ago, read them, it is merely an idiotic legend. If an anus gapes wide during sex that has nothing to do with not being able to retract anymore ! For Bree's anus sake send 100 $ to cancer researchers, you will help the little girl not being incontinent more surely that in boycotting her DVDs !
Let those who don't want none cherish the memories of not gettin' any! 46 Posts 11/07
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 1:16PM
"Be like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich and keep it!"
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Edard Balladur Deactivated User
140 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 2:25PM
This is unclear.
It's your sole subjective point of view. I'm going to watch some scenes with her to see by myself.
Who ? What was her knowledges in the subject ? Has she stated by herself this can happen ? Was she talking of gapes ? Is Bree doing this all the time or just for camera, few times a month ?
And I prefer to "believe" proctologists rather than EMTs. To clarify this point, it is a meta-analysis of different studies and the findings were in french, not necessarily the original studies. And they stated there are dangers but in case of extreme acts we don't see Bree doing. As for the oversized phalluses, as I said previously, this is a problem that let remains a doubt, even if I think your reaction is purely psychological. Edited by - Edard Balladur on 1/25/2008 2:36:54 PM
Let those who don't want none cherish the memories of not gettin' any! 46 Posts 11/07
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 11:33PM
Teagan Pressley, who is both a porn star and a user of this site, has stated she was forced out of anal sex due to injuries. Katja Kassin, herself another porn star, user of this site and anal sex practitioner, has herself stated that anal sex is not for everyone and I agree with them both. You do not intend, I hope, to call these two ladies liars. Please read their posts! "Be like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich and keep it!"
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Edard Balladur Deactivated User
140 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 4:35AM
I rode a few days ago what said Teagan on this subject in her blog : she talked of a total of 25 000 $ for hospitalizations, she links her injuries with a special fragility of her body, and she says she likes anal sex with her husband. Katja said that she likes it and have never had a problem with it but not all bodies are equal with this. And you emphasizes these statements to the point that Bree is in danger of incontinency ! They have never talked of such a thing, it's purely in your guilty mind ! I just went to see her scene with Brandon Iron in "Big Wet Asses 10". I was totally amazed : this girl is a pure anal fuck toy. She has so dirty talking coming from her mouth that I couldn't believe my ears. And she seems outrageously willing to be assfucked. She wanted more and more in this anal-only scene and she cummed at least 3 times. I don't take all this litteraly knowing it is a show but she's at least a good actress at faking pleasure and lust ! Most important her anus and rectum seem totally sane, whereas the size of the dick is quite good and the pumping also. I don't know if you saw this movie but I will be curious to know the videos that shocked you. Watch mine and have a good time ! It' really not to laugh at you, just to confirm how such judgements are subjective and morally biased. I encountered the case many times with porn fans, some people are just leaded to this way that I don't condamn. (And what can be seen with prostitute customers ? A whole other subject but I don't know much about it.)
This thread is an eye opener. We like to see anal but don't think about the suffering some go thru We like no condom but don't think about the std's some get Porn is fantasy to us fans but very real for the actors and actresses
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511 Posts 11/02
Posted - Mar 4 2008 : 4:57PM
I have often said that one good personal injury attorney could shut down this business these days, and make a lot of money in the process.