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| smallcock Deactivated User 131 Posts 8/07 |  Posted - Mar 5 2008 : 4:05AM[Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 19 2008 : 1:53PM The Medical Aspects Of Anal Sex [Link] |
| flying_postman Member Europena Fanboy 162 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 7:00AM Regading the topic I am a fan of anal scenes but I am not one of those "If it ain't anal it's not hardcore porn" types but like Katja said it's not for everyone. I don't expect the US pornsluts to be like the brazillians where anal is natural like vag sex. The only execption I would make is Alexis Texas, that ass is just pleading to get plowed it's really a shame that may never happen. ___Eurobabes Rule!!!! [Link] |
| Double Vag Lover Deactivated User 306 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 2:50PM [Link] |
| moodyblues Member 307 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 21 2008 : 4:43AM [Link] |
| Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Mar 21 2008 : 4:55AM [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 21 2008 : 7:04PM [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Mar 23 2008 : 2:04AM [Link] |
| pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Mar 24 2008 : 5:48AM Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 24 2008 : 10:57PM [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 6:10AM - Intent to cause harm (criminal liability?) - Personal injury (civil liability) - Class actions Does consent in the porn business waive all liability, even for activities which cause harm? If so, then why so? Other industries in the U.S. have federal safety regulations pertaining to workplace injuries[1][2]. I assume that these don't apply to pornstars unless they're considered employees... 1. Willful - A violation that the employer intentionally and knowingly commits. 2. Serious - A violation where there is substantial probability that death or serious physical harm could result and that the employer knew, or should have known, of the hazard. [Link] |
| pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 11:39AM Work Comp injury litigation is unlike PI, at least in Cali. There has been a liberal bent towards finding most work place injuries to be work related. The standard is not high and an injured worker need not show negligence by the employer. Usually just the existence of an injury is enough. On the other hand, punitive damages and big verdicts rarely happen in work comp injuries. Easy to prove and attach liability = less monetary damages. Serious & Willful are very difficult standards to meet in work comp. Basically, an injured worker would have to show criminal negligence, ie., the employer absolutely knew or should have know injury would occur -- asking your employee who cleans the inside of used gasoline storage tanks to use candles for light as he works. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link] |
| lookyhere Deactivated Again 59 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 3:43PM Serious & Willful are very difficult standards to meet in work comp. Basically, an injured worker would have to show criminal negligence, ie., the employer absolutely knew or should have know injury would occur -- asking your employee who cleans the inside of used gasoline storage tanks to use candles for light as he works. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [/quote] Like asking your employee to take two cocks up the ass. Any reasonable person knows that this can cause a serious injury. And it doesnt matter if the person consented to it, or signed any so called 'waiver' at the time of the shoot. There is no such thing as any legal 'waiver' that circumvents the law or allows any company or employee to give up their legal rights. And if you dont have workers comp insurane then a civil case will cost you alot more than paying for the insurance ever would. [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 5:54PM [Link] |
| pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 2:42PM Double anal has been performed without injury so it would not be considered serious & willful. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 4:05PM Anyway, extreme anal insertions -- which include fisting and DAP -- are undeniably very risky (moreso than the already high-risk "vanilla" anal intercourse). There can be serious consequences, such as potentially fatal rectal perforation[2]. 1. [ invalid url ] Edited by - Blink on 3/30/2008 11:25:30 PM [Link] |
| blowfish Member 874 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 4:11PM [Link] |
| Jesse Midnite Member Commisioner of Porn Quality Control 522 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 9:24PM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 9:38PM [Link] |
| Learned Hand Member 175 Posts 2/06 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 2:35AM Let's say you get someone who is found to be 100% disabled. Who is going to pay? I doubt these producers have insurance worth an damn. The studios seem to be broke. Maybe you can pierce the corporate veil, although that seems unlikely to me, and go after the owners. Even if you were to be successful doing that, how many owners have the kind of money worth pursuing? These types of claims seem impressive when you are discussing the damages, but I don't see them continuing to be impressive once you start discussing recovery. In fact, I would guess this very problem is why we haven't heard of any suits so far. [Link] |
| pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 3:28AM The UEF will go after the business owners in an attempt to collect on the outstanding, for a better word - "judgement." But it is unlikely to be fully repaid. Estimated cost of an HIV claim over the course of a performer's life could be well in excess of $1 mil. The money is there, it just belongs to the tax payers. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link] |
| pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 3:32AM Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link] |
| blowfish Member 874 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 4:29AM [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 2:12PM Nothing should be done about people doing risky things in their own bedrooms, though; that's their business. Still, everyone should know about the risks involved so that informed decisions can be made. This doesn't appear to be the case very often; desensitizing creams seem to be popular, for one thing. There is also plenty of anecdotal evidence online that receptive people are experiencing problems as a result of anal sex, and some of them are too embarrassed to see a doctor. On the other hand, something can and should be done about porn directors causing harm to women via anal insertive activities. If existing safety regulations aren't adequate, then more may be necessary. Of course, it's possible that some existing ones aren't being enforced (looking at the OSHA list, the "Other" category[5] seems very pertinent). Anoreceptive pornstars are definitely in a bad situation without health coverage, too. I can't find any public medical studies relating to the effects of repeated and rough anal insertions, but going by what I've seen, cumulative trauma that builds up over time certainly can lead to rather unpleasant problems. 1. "Women are also under pressure to emulate the porn stars' apparent penchant for anal sex, according to four consecutive Swedish studies, the latest published in 2005 in the International Journal of STD and AIDS. Young men who are regular porn consumers are more likely to have had anal sex with a girl, and most of the men liked it. Most young women did not like anal sex, with fewer than half saying they would do it again, the studies found." 2. "Extended exposure to pornography can have a whole raft of effects. By the time Nick Samuels had reached his mid-20s, it was altering his view of what he wanted from a sexual relationship..." 3. "Too, right now, a lot of women are feeling pressured to have anal sex when they don't want to, which is coming, from what we can gather, from the popularity of female-receptive anal sex in porn..." 4. 1 In 3 Boys Heavy Porn Users, Study Shows 5. Other - A violation that has a direct relationship to job safety and health, but probably would not cause death or serious physical harm. * Anal sex done wrong being painful and/or rough. Pain is a sign that something is being torn or abraded. Significant friction is undesirable, especially so for the rectum. Several medical sources point out that the rectal lining is delicate and tears easily. This applies regardless of whether they're referring to the single cellular layer of epithelium or the entire mucosa. See my sig link below for more details, including anatomy. The Medical Aspects Of Anal Sex [Link] |
| lookyhere Deactivated Again 59 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 4:51PM HIV and rectal tearing would definately qualify as 'serious' and because EVERYONE in the buissneknows that injuries occur regularly while performing these 'stunt' acts, the 'willful' standard is easily met. just a side note regarding all these intervies with porn girls who say they LOVE anal sex. A few weeks ago on HOward Stern they did a 'gameshow" with a bunch of porn stars.(FAMILY FEUD) The first question was what do you NOT like doing in porn. Every single girl on the show immedeately said 'anal sex'. The prospect of winning real prize money immediately bought out the truth with these girls. Yes, porn gilrs actually lie when they say they love anal, but offer them money and the truth comes out. [Link] |
| threesomebody Official BlowBang Judge Would you like my autograph? 2491 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 5:16PM [Link] |
| pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 5:47PM You are simply wrong. Serious and willful is a standard that is not easily met. Based upon your logic and reasoning every and any work place injury could be considered "serious and willful." Based upon your logic..... Having a secretary type could be considered "serious and willful" since it causes carpal tunnel if performed improperly. Working in a warehouse lifting items could be considered "serious and willful" since lifting a heavy box could cause a disc injury. The standard is almost a criminal type of behavior where the employer is CERTAIN that injury will occur. It cannot be that injury CAN occur, it has to be than a injury WILL occur. Or if someone can show prior Cal-OSHA violations for the same type of injury from the same act, then the employer is on notice. S&W's require a certain mens rea on the part of the employer/supervisor. The act has to be deliberate and not negligent. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 8:21PM Moreover, men are much more likely to feel pleasure from receptive anal intercourse, since all of us (should) have a prostate which can be stimulated via receptive anal sex.Could you define injury, please? I would say that damage will occur from anal intercourse which is both painful and rough. However, I'm uncertain as to whether this damage equates to injury in a legal sense. [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 8:43PM EVERYONE? are YOU in the business? Do YOU cavort and hang out with all the stars? I'd say that the chances are that you don't, so again, you're just purely speculating. I'm sure that not all porn girls like anal sex but will do it for money. I don't like doing menial work for a multi-billion dollar corporation getting paid the same as some kid in high school, even though i've got a degree and years of schooling, but i do it because it pays the bills for now. I'm sure you do stuff for money that you don't like. It's called life and it's called compromise. People deal with it. There's a few girls here on the board that aren't in porn that love anal sex. Not gonna mention any names because that's not my place to divulge info about anyone's personal sex life that they don't want publicly broadcasted. Some people like being shit on, while most don't. It still doesn't mean that just because the majority of people hate it, that there's not people who like to eat poo. Shit...watch Fear Factor or shows like that and you'll see people whoring themselves out by eating bugs and doing all kinds of crazy shit for money. We all do it to some degree; some more than others. Give me the option of having lots and lots of money for doing something that I don't enjoy and there's a possibility that I'd do said fucked up acts. I'm sure others agree but I'm not going to put words in anyone's mouth. [Link] |
| PuckerPounder Deactivated User 136 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 8:50PM [Link] |
| TJCummings Member 398 Posts 12/05 | Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 3:09AM [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 6:01AM By contrast, the porn industry seems to have no regulations whatsoever pertaining to hazardous anal-insertive activities. That is obvious from the existence of this thread alone. Also, I've been watching porn long enough to have witnessed many anal activities which are, without question, very hazardous from a physical damage standpoint. "Very hazardous" anal-insertive activities include: Any act which is rough and/or painful, large insertions, fisting, and DAP. The perianal skin, the anus, and the rectum can be injured. The rectal lining is especially delicate. Too, it "does not heal quickly" according to a registered nurse[1], and it is "relatively insensitive to pain" according to a Merck page reviewed by two medical doctors[2]. Physical trauma to any one of those three areas can lead to a variety of unpleasant and potentially chronic (persistent) problems. 1. http://www.talksexwithsue.com/AIDS.html 2. http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec02/ch020/ch020a.html Edited by - Blink on 4/2/2008 12:14:59 PM [Link] |
| pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 12:31PM By the way, none of the companies I have ever represented have ever instituted a general lifting restriction. The 40lbs you refer to is a minimum, not a maximum. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com Edited by - pornlaw on 4/2/2008 12:32:12 PM [Link] |
| Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 7:26PM It seems to me that we're unlikely to see that, though. So, I'll assume the present situation will continue with what appears to be a positive feedback loop*. If Drew Pinsky (among a few other physicians whom I won't mention) is right about long-term consequences, then things could get very ugly. Personal injury lawsuits, tax payer burdens for porn star compensation, etc. Of course, I may be overestimating affected porn stars. * More demand for high-risk acts leads to more people--not only pornstars--engaging in them, which in turn feeds the demand. This has been shown to have a "slippery slope" effect amongst some of those with porn addictions, with more extreme content being desired over time. (Note that I am not opposed to more extreme content so long as the activities are harmless.) [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 7:47PM If comes to where a girl is put in the hospital or needs medical attention, someone went to far and crossed the line. In my opinion it is wrong and is degradation. [Link] |
| lookyhere Deactivated Again 59 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 7:59PM And of course there are people who enjoy anal sex, but the vast majority of people do NOT engage in these acts, and the vast majority(not all) of porn performers do it ONLY for the money. And very very very few people ever do Double anal outside of the porn industry. If the porn industry ever wants to considered in the least bit 'legitamate" they have to adrees the issue of workplace safety and work related injuries and illness. A monthly voluntary program that cheks for only HIV and gon/chlam doesnt even come close to addressing all of the issues that porn performers face. Does anyone here know why VIVID pictures settled the suit bought by Kira Kenner(not sure if spelled correctly), their contract star?(funny thing, in one of the briefs submitted by VIVID they tried to maintain that their contract star, who worked excusively for them, was an independant contractor.) Aside form alleging 'failure to pay", one of the main parts of the suit alleged that she got an STD while 'working' for VIVID. VIVID settled the suit out of court because they did not want an actual court decision declaring a porn performer an employee. But that all changed last december when Brooke Ashley was declared an employee of the company that whe was working for when she got HIV. As Pornlaw has pointed out several times on this board, like it or not, performers are employees, not independant contractors. And like it or not, the industry is going to be in for a rude wake up call when girls in this buissness realize they have alot more power now than previous 'generations' of porn stars. These girls are going to soon realize that companies will glady settle out of court, for significant amounts of money. And since 'most' girls are in the industry for less than one year they wont be worried about future employment in the adult industry. They'll get paid more for the settled lawsuit than they would make in that year. (OOPS, i forgot, this is another little industry secret that none of the 'industry' news sites want to talk about, just like they will NEVER talk about what the industry has ever done for any of their HIV infected 'stars'. But maybe that is because their is NOTHING to talk about, because they did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.) P.s> Lara Roxx's attorney was at the courthouse in downtown L.A. on Spring Street, last Tuesday. Edited by - lookyhere on 4/2/2008 8:13:38 PM [Link] |
| BigFerret creampie scientist Searching for blonde and red bush 1985 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Apr 2 2008 : 9:21PM [Link] |
| lookyhere Deactivated Again 59 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 1:02AM [Link] |
| Edard Balladur Deactivated User 140 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 6:26AM [Link] |
| Jameson2k4 Member 185 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 9:05AM |
| PuckerPounder Deactivated User 136 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 10:25AM I've verry little passion for vaginal scenes, and to be honest, just wouldn't pay for them. [Link] |
| Jameson2k4 Member 185 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 11:34AM What I meant is that people should just wake up and be more reasonable in their requests. Too many seem to forget that a porn actress is a human being like everyone else, when people want to see someone cringe in pain then they should join the BDSM scene or something but please keep certain filthy demands out of mainstream porn. It should be obvious that a petite woman cannot take someone like Mandingo up the chocolate starfish. There was a thread on this forum about the most painful anal scenes and it was obvious how much some posters are into this. If someone loves pain that much he should join the appropriate fetish scene, but not make certain outlandish demands in mainstream porn. A fine example how bad and unfeeling male actors can ruin an anal scene is Rocco´s Initiaions 1, the scene with Cassandra Wild. Anyone who has seen her other movies knows that she is a sexual powerhouse. But during anal in this scene it was obvious that one of the guys was hurting her and that she hated every second of it. Something like that makes me physically sick, and to demand more such scenes in mainstream porn is misogyny in it´s purest form. To sum it up: I hope people will be more responsible and reasonable when asking for certain anal sex acts. Don´t go demanding stuff that the human body isn´t made for. This also applies to actresses, actors and directors. A girl who is unexperienced in anal sex shouldnt star in some double-anal-whatever flick, take a minute to think if that paycheck is worth the trouble and the danger to your health. Male talent should be more responsible and keep in mind that anal sex takes a lot more patience, you can´t just rush in and pound away, if you don´t believe me buy a replica of Mandingo´s tool and stick it up your rectum, then you will see. And directors and agents shouldn´t try to talk actresses into doing scenes that they are not made for. There are enough anal acrobats like Sandra Romain or Belladonna around who are better suited for certain scenes than a new and inexperienced face. [Link] |
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