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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 2:37AM
Check your local listings.
In NYC it's at 5 p.m. on "MY 9."

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And half pass never on Channel none in Australia sadly ...
ma meeshka
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:24AM
sadly? fuck tyra banks.

if you want to see sasha, watch it online. it'll be on youtube in an hour...

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 9:19AM
I'll be tuning in.

I wish so bad that more porn stars would be on talk shows, sit-coms, game shows, ect.

Does anyone have any idea why pornstars don't do other stuff more often?
Maybe I should start a thread?

 
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 9:35AM
Trina Michaels, Liv Wylder, and Lyla Lei were on Howard Stern yesterday.
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 9:48AM
Yea..I know...but he sometimes makes them do "bumfights" shit....I think one star got shit on by the fart guy one time....and then there was the "spit" thing...and you got to pay to see Howard....and I'm over 30 so I kinda out grew Howard...and listen to Imus.


Kelly wells on the Hollywood Squares
or Hillary Scott on Boston Legal....Gawd can you imagine the ratings!

I wonder if their agents would even give them the message if someone like that called?

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 11:16AM
Isn't it obvious that mainstream media has a big problem with porno? Jenna Jameson is the only actress who is accepted therein…Savannah Samson gets a pass from time to time… most will only be tolerated on shows where they have to defend what they do, and, evidently in the case of Miss Grey, being used as a tool for grandstanding by Tyra, Oreilly, Hannity, etc etc… ad nauseum…

Example: I've done some work for a music magazine that used to include relaitively innocucous pix of Vivid girls like Devon and Brianna Banks: its a nu-metal/extreme music mag, so it would be reasonable to assume that a large segment of their readership was familiar with Vivid chicks, which is also to say, many of the dudes the mag cover have probly been involved with many porn chicks casually or have had relationships with some.

Evidently, advertisers (like major labels, instrument manufacturers, lifestyle products) NO LIKEY when their ads appeared in the page next to pictures of, I dunno, Tera Patrick in a bikini or something. So there were no more pictures of pretty girls who take dick onscreen…

Edited by - veronica moser on 2/8/2007 11:19:54 AM

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 12:27PM
Tyra had no clue Sasha had her own mind. Sasha did her self proud she held her own for sure Spiegler lol lol it was good to see mark and Ian.


it's still on so i cant wait to see more of Sasha put Tyra on her toes she cuts off Sasha all the time.

who is this tiana girl i have never seen a movie with her in it or not sure who would want to and for her to attack sasha and mark is just so bushleague Tyra was not getting a response out of sasha she wanted so she brings some fat bulldog in to do her dirty work lol lol so lame
tiana i am 19 that girl is not 19 more like mid 20's

wow then for them to attack mark was so lame also i think you both did great it was just real sad Tyra because she was not understanding Sasha had to attack her

dan

Edited by - bauer024 on 2/8/2007 12:55:03 PM

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 1:14PM
These kinds of programs aren't put on to enlighten people. They don't want the audience to understand Sasha, or anybody else, for that matter. They want the audience to feel superior to them. The only reason Tyra had Sasha on in the first place was to play the victim. Tiana was just a ringer in case Sasha wasn't generating the effect the producers wanted.

PS - Of course Mark was going to be attacked. He's the bad man exploiting the victims!

bauer024
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 1:29PM
Hardware i agree the show was set up for Sasha to show up and beg Tyra to save her from the brinks of hell the fat bulldog
Tiana who i should not say is fat but she brought up wieght herself and i feel she was just brought on there to attack Sasha and mark because Tyra could not do it without looking bad for attack her own guest.

i am glad to see sasha get her face and name out there for main media its just lame they have to attack her for doing what she wants to do


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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 1:50PM
Friends -

Awhile ago, I saw Nina Hartley on Oprah's show and it was not an ambush or hatchet job at all.

The show was about the swinging lifestyle, but Oprah did acknowledge Nina's adult career, and the discussion did turn to that, and it seemed reasonably fair and balanced. No smugness or moral superiority that I could see.

BSD

Edited by - BSD on 2/8/2007 2:11:32 PM

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 1:51PM
Maybe so? I don't know....I know for sure the mainstream media likes and is in business to makes money and would exploit the young Sasha Grey to the extent they are able to get access to her and make money from it ...the same way pornographers will exploit her sexuality to make money off men that dream up(some in forums like this) the sexual situation and scenarios they have her do in films.

I don't particularly like Tyra Banks, but to suggest she, O'Reilly, Hannity, etc etc… ad nauseum… are exploiting her, and the porno industry is not, is wrong IMO. She's a smart girl, that is to say she is articulate, but she is not mature and experienced enough to know that EVERYONE is using her....we are all used....wisdom comes from knowing to what end one is being used, and when it's time to walk away.

I think that crossing over, in any degree, is GOOD for both mainstream and the porn industry...it means big bucks for both... and for sure some interesting entertainment.

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 1:59PM
Yep..seen it. I love seeing Nina wherever she shows up.
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 2:43PM
I wonder if Sasha would have responded any differently had she had the anal warts at the time of taping.
 
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 3:24PM
We still don't know that she has anal warts, but it's good to know you're looking out for the worst.
Oh, I think she knows that. It isn't like you can put down a marker and say "This is the age everybody does, or knows fill in the blank," after all.

I only caught the last part of the show, when Tiana had center stage, and I only caught it by accident. To the extent that it warned people to look before they leap, I didn't have a problem with it. I wasn't impressed by Tiana, though. Boo hoo, I only did it for the money is only an indictment of your intelligence.

Tyra blaming porn for Tiana's misery when, in fact, Tiana is responsible for her own actions just supported my earlier comments.

Their pop psychologist didn't impress me much, though he was better than Dr. Phil. Yeah, nobody complains when things are going their way. How insightful. Using the heroin analogy was stupid, because heroin is psychologically addicting, whereas the issue with porn and prostitution isn't psychological, it's cultural, ie, people put you down for doing it.

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 4:17PM
"I don't particularly like Tyra Banks, but to suggest she, O'Reilly, Hannity, etc etc… ad nauseum… are exploiting her, and the porno industry is not, is wrong IMO."

I am not suggesting whatsoever that, heaven help us, porn ain't a exploitative milieu. I am suggesting that porn is used as a convenient subject for the MSM to look down upon and to condescend to. That the various values that the MSM projects to the world are somehow superior to the presentation of people fucking on screen is pretty vile, although par for the course in a culture that struggles with its puritan foundations. And god knows it gets more complicted than that…

The show is on in an hour here in NYC, and I'm sure that Miss Grey, who seems very assured, intelligent and poised will do ffine.

Anna Nicole Smith has died, btw…

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 5:10PM
First of all.. It was nice to hear Sashas boyfriend Ian speak about the issue.
He seems like an inteligent standup guy.
I'm happy to see that your lover is not a knob Sasha. ;)
I also think it was brave of him to sit side by side with you on the show.
So to speak...
That takes some guts. It tells me that he is very committed to you.
Props to Ian.
I think both of you have BIG BALLS for going on that show.
And I think you held your own against Tyra, and Jabba the slut there.
"Adult diapers" Give me break. Sheesh!
I figured they would whip out the wild card at the end to shock the crowd, and get them whipped up into an anti porn frenzy lol...

Anyway. You looked great btw.
It must have been frustrating for you being cutt off, and or unable to answer all the questions in a timely fashion.?

I'm stoked to hear that you want to get into producing your own movies Sasha.
Be it XXX or other.
I would love to see whats really cooking behind those eyes.


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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 5:20PM
Is Tyra really THAT cowed by the topic ... and THAT preachy?

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 5:29PM
FUCK TYRA BANKS WITH A HOT POKER!!!!

She says she's not judging: bull-goddamn-shit she's not. How dare she sit there, given her background, and pass judgment on someone who does something (arguably) more honest then she…

then she calls Sasha cold! She's up there getting flayed to titillate and also to make a bunch of idiot hausfraus feel superior, so of course she's not gonna jump through Bank's hoops; she's succeeding in representing herself with dignity.

I know some of the people who might read this are friends with Spiegler, but, man does he ever visually fit any number of "dirty old man turning out young girls" stereotypes…

oh gawd…here comes the 16 year old prostitute…

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 5:40PM
Hott.

Seems like they are going to run it right up to the last 3 minutes and then give Sasha like 30 seconds to answer back. The problem is that Tyra lacks confidence and is "cold." Gawd, what a fake.

I mean, homegirl would never hack it in the real world. She's bringing the "agenda" like she has all the answers, with no comprehension of what she's even talking about. LOL. This is pretty awesome. I bet she was f*cking pissed after the show.

Bossy Britches!

Victims ... Tyra is a victim-lover. Gawd. She's setting feminism back 30 years! If you refuse to be a victim, then something must be wrong. You will confess. You will ...

Edited by - skronker on 2/8/2007 5:55:39 PM

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:00PM
I heard about this here so I watched it. I also thought Tyra Banks was a remarkably poor speaker for a talk show host. Or maybe typically so, I think porn is morally superior because it's more honest about being exploitation.
I disagreed that Sasha Grey looks like she's in middle school. How old is Tyra Banks, she was talking like back in her day teenage girls were all worrying about the bible and finding a date to go to a sock hop. Most people who watch the show probably think Tyra Banks is right about everything, talk shows are like today's version of the mob wandering around in the street with torches bumping into things.
veronica moser
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:02PM
oh man, did Spiegler ever drop the ball…no offense to him, but she needed somebody up there much more presentable and articulate than him when the cards are stacked against her like that…

I dunno, Sasha does seem pretty nervous…for the assured performer and smart girl that she is, she seems a little spooked by Dr. Douche and this self-important moron who has more or less made millions off of men's need to cum…

I haven't watched one of these shows in years, and will now proudly return to thst condition…

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:11PM
Just started here, and I agree Sasha doesn't even look close to being middle school aged, 18 yes but not younger.

I just find it amusing that Tyra's so out of touch that she can't see how strong Sasha was in presenting herself and why she's doing adult films. I think any reasonable person sitting and watching Sasha can be taken aback at what she does if they're not a fan of porn but I don't think you can say she's confused about what she's doing. There are plenty of girls in the biz who may fit the abused/ easily manipulated stereotype but don't put Sasha Grey in that category. I agree with what Mark said, if you just talked to Sasha over the phone you could easily think she's over 30. Miss Grey comes across very articulate in her speech and it's surprising that Tyra wasn't more receptive in her tone rather than trying to get Sasha to break down on her set, I can bet she wanted that to happen and was surprised when it didn't.

Edited by - bono-ONE on 2/8/2007 6:22:02 PM

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:18PM
I agree...

I want more! Say want ever you want about Tyra Banks love her or hate her.....SHE HAD A PORNSTAR ON HER SHOW! Cool! And her pimp!( at Mark)

 
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:24PM
Tyra's a cold piece of work. I can understand disagreeing with Sasha's chosen profession but all that high and mighty business is sickening. I've seen Tyra grill a number of girls on her show about their sex lives and it never sits well with me.

Tyra kept harping about a deeper reason for wanting to do porn. Like there was some response that she would have said "OK, that makes sense. I agree with you." The whole thing was like watching an inquisition.

And how the hell can Tyra play that role and condemn porn then during the commercial her next show advertises how girls can properly flaunt their tits and ass. Even going so far as to squeeze one of her female guests ass. Amazing!

I could talk for days on this but I'd just like to commend Ms. Grey for not losing her shit and strangling Tyra on stage for all the times she belittled her, cut her short of finishing a sentence and judged the hell out of her.

Edited by - pwing on 2/8/2007 6:36:12 PM

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:36PM
That's exactly what they are and why I despise them so much. I hear about something like this, I could tell you in advance that it was gonna be a zoo, with every holier than thou, moralist asshole six states surrounding in attendance.

I'm surprised Sasha accepted but she probably figured if she didn't do it, they'd keep on until they found someone from the industry to put on that show.

But ya know...of course the host is gonna keep cutting her off and not letting her speak or say what she wants to say. It's obviously all part of the plan. When you bring somebody out with the intent of using them to illustrate your point, it isn't helpful if they're allowed to illustrate that your point is BS. As someone else said, their intent was never to give Sasha a fair shake. And I'm sure she knew it and saw it coming.

Hmmm....maybe there'll be a Tyra sex tape coming out sometime in the near future. But then again, that would necessitate anyone actually wanting to fuck a frigid, moralist bitch.

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 6:45PM
R.P. -

Tyra's got big tits and a big ass. I'll do it.

I don't even like her, but I'll do it.

If it will help the cause, I'll make the sacrifice. I can make it a "grudge fuck" if you guys want. She's taller than me, but I'll climb that mountain and smack her around a little if need be.

BSD

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 7:08PM
Don't know if you saw the show or not, BSD, but one of the commercial breaks had a spot for an upcoming show in which Tyra will tell her audience how to show off their big tits and big asses. Really.

My impression of the show is: I don't know what Sasha and Mark were hoping to accomplish. It was predictable how they would be treated.

Also, it would have been cool if Sasha had asked Tyra if she could try on her hair-helmet.

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 7:26PM
it's coming on tonight. i'm gonna tape it.
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 7:36PM
I only caught the end,where Sasha and some older guy were sitting together in the audience.Is that guy her boyfriend?
Harri Patel
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 7:39PM
Oh, and it was funny that Sasha thinks Rocco is in his 50's. Out of the mouths of babes . . . .
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 7:43PM
Well that was Spiegler she was sitting next to in the audience. Notice they never showed Sasha at the end of the show.
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 7:58PM
Everyone is scrambling to get a copy of Gangbang #5....this stuff is great for business! Thanks Tyra.
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 8:08PM
I didn't see the Tyra show, but I've seen Sasha on "Entertainment Tonight". She seems like a very smart young lady, and she knows how to handle herself, and not fall for the victim shit that the media is always pushing.

Like Bono said, it might apply to some girls in porn, but don't paint all porn starlets with the same brush.

-PornoPunK

 
Harri Patel
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 8:14PM
Anybody have a clue who the "Tiana" broad is?
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 8:24PM
I was wondering the same thing.

It's very likely that Tiana was not her porn name (if, indeed, she ever did porn).
I think she said she's put on "40 lbs." since she was performing.

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 8:36PM
She said that she was 40 lbs overweight when she quit and was making $10,000 a month and was not doing the intense sexual acts that Sasha is being used for.... I guess her point being that Sasha is already doing the most intense sexual acts with 80+ films in 6 months, and that she is being treated like a flash in the pan, and used up quickly, having to wear diapers at age 30, instead of being handle & marketed for long term exposure.... I think...
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 8:37PM
I dident see this was posted over here.Heres my reply in the other area of the forum.
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Sasha I have gained alot of respect for you im new to your movies I only have your gangbang I bought it 2 weeks ago.it was wrong the way they treated you your a person you have made a choice that makes you happy and thats what matters.

Anyway I admire the way you handeled yourself on the show you are very smart.If I was in your shoes all hell would of broken loose.You stood up for yourself and what you bealive in.


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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 8:55PM
Anal gonorrhea at 18. She's fuggin brilliant....enough with the smart already....


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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 9:04PM
The mass media aren't so sophisticated as to use brushes. They just paint everyone with the same crayons and finger paints.

Telling these clowns not to fuck with people is like telling a dog not to bark or grass not to grow. They were born that way. They don't know how to be anything but spectacular fuckwits.

melissalauren
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 9:39PM
you dont get stds according to your iq, you moron.

we re in a business were we fuck for a living, and yes we all are tested, but sometimes shit happens... hell, you cant be a fireman and expect to never get burnt.

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they dont apier to be airing that Epy for some reason in my aira even in a re-run hummm wonder why ?
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 10:29PM
I DVR'ed it this afternoon, and I'm watching it now. I just think it's hysterical that Tyra says she's not judging Sasha, yet in the same breath tells her to do some "soul-searching" to find some "deep" reason why she does porn. She DID say why, but Tyra didn't like the answer. LOL

It's obviously a hatchet job, but Sasha didn't co-operate.

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 10:57PM
I disagree....Can smart people get std's? yes! When they do stupid dangerous things.


I am just getting a little sick of everyone saying how dam smart she is ...it sounds like what everyone said about Tracy Lords.

Every man that ever seduced, molested or raped a post-pubescent girl told her how smart and mature she was as part of the seduction.

Try it for yourself: tell any 14 year old girl you see how grown-up and mature and smart she is and she'll be putty in your hands....

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 11:33PM
A person's choice of careers also does not accurately indicate their intelligence. Sasha's reasons for doing porn may not have anything to do with the money...or even herself. It's not stupid to take a calculated risk if you're willing to accept the consequences should something go wrong.
And some people are no doubt getting a little sick of you. So I guess that makes everyone even.
What? WTF does this have to do with Sasha Grey?
I'll take your word for it. But Sasha Grey is not 14. 18 is the legal age of consent. (maybe younger in some places. I don't know). So anyway...does your post have a point? And has it even been confirmed (or denied) that she even has anything other than more money and an obviously fuller life than you do? The STD thing was just a rumor last I knew. I wonder how many IQ points get knocked off for automatically believing everything you hear just because you want it to be true?

Edited by - randomprecision on 2/8/2007 11:35:38 PM

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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 11:44PM
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And what would those reasons be, pray tell?
Oh, I think it's very stupid, but what would "accepting the consequences" entail, in your opinion? Explain.

Edited by - pinupmutant on 2/8/2007 11:47:49 PM

bauer024
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Posted - Feb 8 2007 : 11:56PM
you need to take your rude coments some where else Sasha is a hell of a lot smarter than you will ever be fool
dont hate the player hate the game she out played you and is doing what she wants to do and is making great money at it


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As for contracting STDs ... listen. I was in college in the 70s, pre-AIDS, and everyone I knew fucked everyone else, with a certain amount of gay/bi/straight/lesbian crossover ... and a fairly neglectful attitude about condoms. I knew a lot of very smart girls who ended up having multiple abortions. Herpes was rampant. (We all did a lot of boating, ha ha). The crowd of kids I knew in college were all smart as fuck. Some of them ended up in jail, some of them ran major cable networks. We all did fuckloads of dangerous drugs and humped like rabbits on crack, still went to class, and incited shitstorms via activism, journalism, punk rock and hooliganism. None of us ever got paid for having sex, but that would seem a far more legitimate rationale for explaining why anyone gets an STD than plain adolescent carelessness. So, the IQ argument is really stupid.
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