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Posted - Feb 9 2007 : 11:37PM
mod: post removed. Like I said, if you have a problem, take it to email.

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These laborers' souls are the coal in the furnace of Desire. Now who's heart leaps? And who's falls?
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 12:44AM
Best thing I've read today (so far)! This is the argument nobody ever responds to. My guess is that it's because they know they can't.

Edited by - randomprecision on 2/10/2007 12:45:31 AM

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 1:59AM
It clear to me at least that Porn for some people is like christianity...a religion....no amount of critical study or facts can change peoples thinking about what they BELIEVE to be true.
 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 2:32AM
Yeah...OK. Fine. Porn is my religion. At least I can see it and I get something out of it other than a peculiar obsession with other people's lives.
married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 2:37AM
RP...Whatever it is you're babbling...PREACH ON!
Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 10:39AM
I don’t consider porn a religion, but I’m a stickler for the truth. I don’t know what “critical study or facts” you are referring to. Opponents and religious fanatics have long used lies and miss leading facts to advance their cause.

Serial Killer Ted Bundy was tried and went though two appeals and numerous interviews and never mentioned porn once. Religious fanatics went to him and offer to pay for his third and final appeal for his anti porn story.

Linda Lovelace after leaving porn became borne again and made a living preaching the evils of porn financed by religious fanatics.

Any person leaving the porn industry can make money “preaching the evils of porn” and truth is not required.

This girl Tiana made 10,000 a week in porn and no one on this board has ever heard of her. Would Tiana have been on the show with an “I was in porn, and it was a good experience story” lol no. Opponents and religious fanatics use lies to advance their cause.

The rate of STD’s in the general public is higher than in the porn industry. How many people not in the porn industry has ever had sex with a person whose been tested.

Was Tyra Banks or anyone else free to have a positive story on Sasha and the porn industry…. NO. Was she free to use a negative story on Sasha and the porn industry to boost her rating?………YES

The fact is this country can’t have a truthful discussion on sex or porn. This country is still hiding in the closet jacking off.


Edited by - Shagdog on 2/10/2007 11:04:29 AM

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 11:31AM
I don’t consider porn a religion, but I’m a stickler for the truth.
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What is the truth about porn?

Everyone that points out the abuses of porn is being paid off, or is a religious fanatic, and the devil....sound familiar?

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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 11:55AM
Married, people point out abuses in porn all the time. But when someone comes here to harp on a single issue it adds nothing to our community but a screeching broken record. Especially when they're rude about it and come back over and over and over again. Often it is a person with a peripheral industry connection who does have a specific agenda. We deal with a lot of ex-boyfriends and such.

This is a community of porn fans and industry people. There are ways to be critical without being insulting.

Please return this thread to a discussion of the topic.

Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 11:59AM
What is the truth about porn?

Everyone that points out the abuses of porn is being paid off, or is a religious fanatic, and the devil....sound familiar?

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No it doesn’t “sound familiar?” I guess your trying to brand me as porn religious.

Please enlighten me on the abuses of porn.

married_lucky
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Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 12:29PM
13, or 14, of the 15 men and still no herpes rumor. what gives

It’s my understanding herpes is only transferable in it’s active state. As Dana DeArmond said checking before you work with someone is a good idea. And a good idea for us all.

There are millions of people in society that have herpes and still have a normal sex life without infecting their partner.

Any thing else

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 12:42PM
melissalauren

"There are millions of people in society that have herpes and still have a normal sex life without infecting their partner."

I agree.

Do you think Sasha was made aware? Or do you think it was marginalized and minimized the way you just explained it?

Don't really matter anyway because "she is only doing what she wants to do".?

Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 12:44PM
Maybe I am a pro porn crusader.(I’ll be passing the collection plate) Sorry about using the board for my own soapbox. I'm just tired of porn bashers getting a free ride without someone standing up to them.

Edited by - Shagdog on 2/10/2007 1:05:34 PM

 
Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 1:03PM
I don’t know for sure, but I think when they go in for testing, they get honest information on STD and how to protect themselves. If they don’t then it is a problem that should be fixed.

If more testing is needed, then it should be done.

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 1:11PM
Standing up for them is good, and you should, but not just for what they choose to do.. but for who they are as human beings...I think they should be well informed and reasonably protected....I don't like it when they get hurt on film or otherwise...I'm a total sap.

Edited by - married_lucky on 2/10/2007 1:12:55 PM

Shagdog
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 1:39PM
We can certainly agree on that. I don’t like the over the top stuff either and will not watch it.
I really like and respect these ladies. I don’t think they should shamed, humiliated, or disrespected in anyway for entertaining us.
Barrett
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 2:02PM
These ladies are great performers and entertainers, and should be respected and embraced for what they do. In fact, I am trying to convince my stepdaughter of the value and learning experience of a career in the industry; she's starting to come around to the idea, and the whole family could use the extra money. She's done some modeling, but I think this is where she'll really start to grow as a person. I'll let you guys know what happens!

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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 2:32PM
mikesouth says it is his opinion

i am sorry this has nothing to do this thread again your just trying to bring sasha down with lies. in your link it says anything about sasha you say sasha's name to bash her and cause drama. i hope someone does ban you because it's people like you that just spin the truth to what fits best for your intent i just see this as some cursade to bring Sasha Down becuase she has fans.

as for porn being a religon ok you right wing wacko nothing worse in the world than the right wing agenda if you dont like porn then dont come here ok we wont come to your bible board and talk about jesus dont come here to tell lies ok


Dan

Edited by - bauer024 on 2/10/2007 2:36:02 PM

Edited by - bauer024 on 2/10/2007 3:05:13 PM

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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 2:53PM
mod: OK, people. Time out.

Let's see if we can continue this discussion without resorting to innuendo, name calling or attempts to present opinions as God-given truths.

TonyC
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This is an excellent, if disingenuous, post.

Barrett
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What exactly does this mean?
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Welcome to the forum!
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Thanks Threesomebody and Tony. This thread was getting pretty heated so I thought I would bring in a little humor; some very interesting and smart ideas in here. The forum's awesome.

 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 6:26PM
What is the truth about porn?

Everyone that points out the abuses of porn is being paid off, or is a religious fanatic, and the devil....sound familiar?

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The truth about porn - By Randomprecision........

Often is it asked what the truth about porn is...especially by people who seem to have some sort of agenda against it. But what is the truth, really?

Well, if you're a porn star, you certainly will get fucked. This is inescapable. That's what is supposed to happen because porn is getting fucked for a living. It is not hidden or obscured. You can walk into any porn shop in the world and see countless box covers which depict people's faces covered in cum and surrounded by five dicks.

This is not the false advertising you get in the "respectable" community, where you'll get (figuratively) fucked in the ass by everyone you meet for pennies. And many will believe that what they're doing is somehow better than what porn stars do just because they can't see the dick that's fucking their ass.

But you'll truly feel it at the end of the day, when you go home to your humdrum little shack in the middle of nowhere and all your little rats start begging you for stuff you can't afford to buy........because you have a "respectable" job. Heh. So, at that moment, your ass is still leaking jizz and if you're like most of the tens of millions of automatons mindlessly plodding their predetermined paths, you probably don't even know it.

You sit back in your clunky old recliner, fart and wonder why you're so miserable. You're a "good guy" after all.

And then you see it. A lovely 18 year old who makes more in a day than you make in a week just for fucking (literally). That vein in your forehead pops out and you feel the jealous rage churning and boiling inside. You wore your ass down to a pathetic nub in the world of corporate swine who promised you the dream and still don't have anything to show for it. And here's a girl not even half your age who reminds you how pathetic your life really is.

She may or may not have a few bumps on her ass but hey....guess what? She can actually afford to have stuff like that treated when it happens. You probably have to sit and wonder if your insurance will cover it and listen to their petty excuses when they decline.

And while all of this is going on in your mind, there are people who see porn as what it is. Erotic entertainment. They're doing what they're supposed to be doing when you watch porn. They're beating off.

Because see.....in a world where everything has a price...if someone wants it, someone is going to sell it. It doesn't matter if it's a Thanksgiving turkey or a piece of ass. If her name isn't Sasha Grey, it will be something else but it will happen. And there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it but sit there and spit and fume and cry about how horrible it all is that Sasha Grey isn't behind the counter at some fast food joint or putting junk together for $8 an hour at some THX 1138 factory, or raising a bunch of kids for the tax machine.

The truth about porn and girls like Sahsa Grey is that they don't give a fuck what you think. And that drives you mad.

Dean Wormer
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 6:29PM
Blah, blah, blah.

I've never seen such a nest of nattering nabobs of negativism.

You are BORRRRING me.

I've forgotten what this thread was about.

The Sexecutioner
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 7:48PM
Is this available to watch online yet?
BSD
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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 7:48PM
Friends -

I was tryin' to keep up, even volunteered to grudge fuck Tyra to calm her down, but I got lost at Tony Blair goin' back to porn after he got done being Prime Minister.

BSD

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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 7:55PM
The truth about porn - By Randomprecision........

Because see.....in a world where everything has a price...if someone wants it, someone is going to sell it. It doesn't matter if it's a Thanksgiving turkey or a piece of ass. If her name isn't Sasha Grey, it will be something else but it will happen. And there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it but sit there and spit and fume and cry about how horrible it all is that Sasha Grey isn't behind the counter at some fast food joint or putting junk together for $8 an hour at some THX 1138 factory, or raising a bunch of kids for the tax machine.

The truth about porn and girls like Sahsa Grey is that they don't give a fuck what you think. And that drives you mad.

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Sounds like you have a lot of anger built up inside Random. Have a Bud and relax.


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Posted - Feb 10 2007 : 10:48PM
Barrett is the closest to the best imitate of a XPT post ever posted on ADT. Really funny stuff with your stepdaughter!
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ORIGIN late Middle English : from Old French rumur, from Latin rumor ‘noise.’

anyone heard any good RUMORS lately ....Hmmmm i haven't ?
Sorry it's been awhile since my last post i've been so busy i have lots of projects going on right now just about done with the website and a few main stream things going on but don't fret lots of hardcore fucked up fun coming up for my fans admirers and even my bullies and critics .


...and for my dear friend Tyra...

“Fear always springs from ignorance”
Ralph Waldo Emerson

word to your fatherfucker

the fuck junkie ♠

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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 3:03AM
This drive by posting was brought to you by Sasha Grey, the fuck junkie.

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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 3:41AM
From the archives
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 3:53AM
It would be so nice if people like Tyra (and most of her fan club) were only ignorant. Ignorance is curable.
 
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 4:59AM
I'm guessing that someone could find the "fatherfuckers" somewhere near the "motherfuckers", yes?
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 5:41AM
"In dreams begin responsibilities" - Delmore Schwartz.

Not sure why I'm quoting that, but it sounds cool, right?


What girls/women like Sasha bring to the table is "say goodbye to fear and ignorance." What does anyone have to lose? Paradise Now ... if you want it. Porn's not the perfect paradigm, in fact it pisses me off every day. But look at those fancy spinners ... ghetto fabulous. Why can't we do for visual sex what technology does for wheels.

Wheels on fire. Rolling down the road.

What once were vices now are habits.

Edited by - skronker on 2/11/2007 6:07:24 AM

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modano
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 6:40AM
still trying to find it online to download or stream, but no luck. anyone know?
Raoul Duke
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Posted - Feb 11 2007 : 6:29PM
Modano (and everybody else) it's on YouTube in six parts under tyra banks teenage pornstars teenage hoes
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Tinaka
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Posted - Feb 12 2007 : 9:38PM
3 minutes in, I've seen enough. The industry should do it's own PR, because nobody stands a chance on a show like that. It's all on their terms. It's like Belladonna/Diane Sawyer all over again. Expoitative rating-chasing shows like that are the lowest of the lowest of the low.

Edited by - Tinaka on 2/12/2007 9:39:33 PM

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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 2:11AM
This girl is so hot.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 4:15AM
(Shaking head) OK...I've seen the first segment (I'm gonna try and make it through all 6 of them).

Anybody notice the ominous serial killer music they're playing in the background as they discuss sex? The quick cuts to the "oh that poor dear!" facial expressions in the audience?

Yeah. This is not what I expected. It's WORSE! Of course a talk show like that is never going to give porn or a porn star an easy time but I would definitely describe that as nothing less than an inquisition. It would almost be comical were it not for the implications for porn and porn fans.

I dunno. Maybe I'm too far out of the loop. I didn't think Americans were that stupid to lap up such obvious propaganda the way those audience members obviously were. I'll no doubt have more commentary when I finish watching this tripe.

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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 6:06AM
OK.....

So...I watch this whole thing and Tyra has a clueless 14 year old (who, I guess, is now a clueless 16 year old) prostitute and a retired porn star who's now pissed because she blew all her cash and didn't use it wisely sandwiched between guilt trips on Sasha.

And of course, poor Marc is there to be relentlessly hammered by the moral crusaders. I'm sure it's not the first time. He didn't appear to be very surprised. I particularly liked the part where Cujo tried to get a riot started with the pimp accusation......as if we didn't see that coming. Excuse me Miss Tyrannosaur. The words "pimp" and "whore" just don't have the same ring to them in 2007 as they did when they used to run women through on stakes and burn them alive and all that good stuff. Isn't it horrible what good old torture and murder has degraded to? I bet those unfortunate ladies in the days of old when people had morals wished (briefly) they only got fucked in the ass by Rocco.

And the 31 year old BF. Well, that was obviously not gonna go over very well. They laid the requisite guilt trips on him pretty thick. No surprise there. The "Jaws" music playing in the background was a nice touch, I guess. Personally, I thought it was more appropriate music for the tranny posing as a talkshow host, though.

And then, she took a nice pot shot or two at the porn audience. And every man in that audience sat there in silence, knowing goddamn well he'd be sitting at his computer with his fucking dick in his hand within hours of the show. And the motherfuckers had the nerve to sit there and applaud and jeer as though they aren't pervs just like every other man on planet earth!

Yeah...when I was a teenager, girls that looked like Sasha didn't do porn. They were too busy dreaming of being supermodels or marrying "Mr. Right". 1 or 2 of them actually made it. The rest of them don't look like Sasha anymore. Most of them are sitting around yelling at the five kids to be quiet while they gnaw on a chicken wing and watch Tyra and "Dr. Phil". Now if they could only track down more than two of the ex husbands that left them stranded with five kids and a mortgage, maybe they could get some alimony. Yeah...they believed in the fairy tale and found something that leaves a bitter taste that even chicken wings can't get rid of. Most people get fucked in life. And most of us don't get paid for it. I can see where the anger comes from. Tyra feeds off of it. If she's lucky, she'll be able to keep finding pet issues to keep people watching her worthless twaddle for maybe another few years. She won't ever be Oprah, though. And when that show of hers finally goes down in flames, I hope Sasha gets a chance to thumb her nose at the bitch and maybe throw her a chicken wing for the road.

Edited by - randomprecision on 2/13/2007 6:08:39 AM

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 9:07AM
All I have to say is MORE!
MORE porn stars on regular TV shows! Please! I fuggin' love any form of crossover...It entertains me....I don't look for any right or wrong in it. I already know whether it's Tyra, or Speigler, this young woman is being used-up...so that I can be entertained.

Edited by - married_lucky on 2/13/2007 9:10:12 AM

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 9:34AM
Porn should do a porn Tyraxxx Show where they gang bang the audience, or each other, or whatever, get creative.

I hope the porn industry responds with a porn version..it could be so hot.

SYNERGY! Gentlemen. Synergy....

RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 10:07AM
There is a Tyra Banks in porn, I think. She kinda looks like her too (yikes?).
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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 10:59AM
Tyra Banks's confrontation with Tyra Banxxx is one reason why I won't ever watch that show.
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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 1:01PM
They flip back and forth. I watched a Nightline once where the host verbally beat down some prosecutor over a porn case. I mean, Rob Black did NOT come off as a genius, either, which was ahem accurate, but they didn't demonize anyone, either. Basically, though, syndicated and network shows are gonna be either anti-porn or vaguely on the fence; cable is gonna be indulgently pro-porn.
R.Jordan
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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 1:25PM
that reminds me of that scene from the thriller movie Hard Candy. the girl searches the guy's apartment and cannot find one trace of porn. she thinks this highly suspicious and says it means he must be hiding something so truly awful he has to keep it in an ultra secret place.

i mean it's just a movie but still it made me think.

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Posted - Feb 13 2007 : 2:00PM
i only got thru a couple of the clips. wow, tyra must be totally unwatchable when she doesn't have a pornstar on.

"you look like someone i went to middle school with."

what the fuck?! sasha is 18, not 13 and could not be mistaken for a middle school kid by any stretch of the imagination.

tyra really wanted sasha to be abused. "the research i have done shows that that majority of porn stars have been abused." i'd love to know where tyra did her research.

what a sad oprah wannabe.

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