Shelley Lubben who is she and what is her problem (page 5)

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duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09	Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 11:27AM mharris127 wrote: Isn't it ironic that the "big names" Shelly touts are small-fry compared to the rest of the porn biz. Other than Sierra Sinn, I haven't even heard of the rest Dexington lists here. Click to expand Seems reasonable that most disappointed/embittered/regretful performers would be those who didn't get much work for one reason or another and were therefore not well known. [Link]
Fernandez Deactivated User 781 Posts 12/08	Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 4:12PM "Through all that's happened, it feels amazing to be set free from my sinful past. Although I'm still working on a strong recovery, nothing seems impossible anymore with God guiding me through. Everyday, I thank Him for connecting me with Pink Cross and all the wonderful people in this ministry. You are all my family in Christ who I love very much. Thank you all for your continued support and prayers. It means more you know. God bless! " Lots of Love, Tammie [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 8:44PM Embrace your sexuality and your past rather than be ashamed of it, Tammie. Is some of the dudes in porn world treated you badly then they are the ones who ought to be ashamed, not you. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 8:49PM ^That's a copy and paste from their website: link Why the need for Shelley and her organization to exploit these women? Wouldn't it be more genuine if such a big show weren't always made out of it? [Link]

Fernandez Deactivated User 781 Posts 12/08	Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 9:29PM According to Laura Ingraham, about 98% of Pink Cross donations go to helping women who need food/shelter. If true, this is a very high percentage, most charities being in the 80% range. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 9:54PM ^If this were correct--and the $45,000 salary in 2009 were the ONLY non-actress-related expense--then her foundation would have pulled in 2.25 million dollars in 2009. That seems pretty high, but who knows. [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 10:09PM Laura Ingraham is a person (orc?) who has propagated the notion that notion that HIV can be transmitted through casual contact, so how is one to be sure that Laura I. has her facts straight this time. [Link]
Algaliarept Senior Member 3557 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 1:23AM Fernandez wrote: "Through all that's happened, it feels amazing to be set free from my sinful past. Although I'm still working on a strong recovery, nothing seems impossible anymore with God guiding me through. Everyday, I thank Him for connecting me with Pink Cross and all the wonderful people in this ministry. You are all my family in Christ who I love very much. Thank you all for your continued support and prayers. It means more you know. God bless! " Lots of Love, Tammie Click to expand They call themselves "Pink Cross"? [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 4:40AM Whores seem to be hung up on their vaginas. Guess it must be because for a whore her vagina is the tool of her trade. [Link]
duefuss Member Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09	Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 10:13AM elgringoviejo58 wrote: Whores seem to be hung up on their vaginas. Guess it must be because for a whore her vagina is the tool of her trade. Click to expand "Porn actress" and "whore" are not synonyms. Neither whores nor porn actresses, nor any woman can ever justly be regarded as a walking vagina, any more than a man is ever just a walking penis (though some on ADT do a pretty good imitation of one). If a person troubled for ANY reason finds solace in the consolations of religious faith, that's fine. But to, then, insist that someone who does NOT share those consolations is somehow wrong or deluded, or evil is arrogant, sanctimonious conceit. There are people in EVERY line of work who are unhappy doing what they do (statistics would have it that MOST people are). There are lawyers and stockbrokers and priests who have done more harm to others and are more truly contemptible than any whore or porn actress ever could be. Do we therefore urge the elimination of these vocations? Lubben's efforts are a campaign to END porn masquerading, perhaps even to her, as an attempt to help unhappy porn actresses. Most, and I expect ALL of those girls' unhappiness has NOTHING to do with having been in porn. Being in porn was an EFFECT of their unhappiness, not a CAUSE. [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 11:14AM That is how Shelley and her followers regard themselves, as they form their Pink Cross and ruminate about their past. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Jul 22 2010 : 6:34PM duefuss wrote: nor any woman can ever justly be regarded as a walking vagina, any more than a man is ever just a walking penis (though some on ADT do a pretty good imitation of one). Click to expand a) at the last part of the above quote. b) I feel that the world would be a better place if there were walking vaginas and penises around...at the very least, it would be more entertaining. [Link]
BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06	Posted - Dec 20 2010 : 2:35PM this is a photo from Shelley's own myspace page. her own caption is "MMMMMM". I think she's 'avin' a laugh with all this. [Link]
BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06	Posted - Dec 20 2010 : 2:59PM Roxy was a very special moment in my early porn development. Her scene with Rodney was one of the first I taped onto VHS and created my own loop of, repeating her moment of bubbling and spitting up the cum that landed on her face. In her Howard Stern interview (on her myspace) she talks about being possessed by demons and snarling at the camera in videos. She was possessed, and she possessed me. I wish she wasn't still trying to tempt me by still making porn-star-like poses with her Bible and her cigar. Because I gave in. Save me God I gave in and I just jilled to her current photos. She's still possessed. I know it. I sprayed like a cat. I'm going to take a nap now. [Link]

elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Dec 20 2010 : 6:34PM Shelley is just fronting that she is holier-than-thou these days. Back in the day, I saw with my own eyes that she was a slut who loved the cock. Wasn't it the late, great Richard Pryor who said "who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes"? Shelley is just conning the Pink Cross contributors. I hear that Pink Cross has become quite a nice-paying gig for Shelley, so she just cons the gullible into believing that she was "possessed" back in the day. The truth was that she had a healthy love of the cock back then. and now is just running a scam. [Link]
pringles All-Star Member 1351 Posts 2/08	Posted - Dec 22 2010 : 11:22AM MENTAL FLOSS: Analyzing Religious Fanatic Shelley Lubben (Mark Kernes) [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Dec 22 2010 : 1:46PM elgringoviejo58 wrote: ... now is just running a scam. Click to expand While she's apparently making money from what she's doing, I really think that the heart of the matter is that she's a mental case. Howard Stern had her on a month or two ago. It was a fairly long segment, and he didn't really challenge anything she was saying, or even ask that many questions; just let her go on and on and on. She starts off sounding rational and "on-message," but the longer she talks, the more she gets into these elaborate, obviously fabricated accounts in which basically she is victimized by everyone she has ever encountered in her entire life. I think she's just a pathological attention whore, like people who claim they were abducted by aliens or subjected to satanic rituals by their pre-school teacher or whatever. [Link]
vanessadelriolover Member I woke up today and everything is still everything! 403 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 28 2010 : 2:27AM Harri with all due respect I wouldn't write her of so quickly as a stone cold "nut job" because she has a platform that people far more sane and much more dangerous can use. frankly, one premise of the "Pink Cross" organization providing aid to abused porn stars is a good one and she has attracted a good number of well known ex-stars as volunteers. I'm sure if far from the majority, but a good number of troubled people are attracted to work in porn and work in the biz is not a good thing given their already fragile state of mind. I'm a fan of the adult biz but I've never liked the stories I've heard about how poorly talent is treated, so the "Pink Cross" addresses a need. However, from all that I've read the organization seems to be a front for anti-porn, religious right agendas similar to those that have landed folks in jail, Max Hardcore comes to mind. The "porn addiction" focus is particularly problematic and believe me most fundamentalist churches spend an inordinate amount of time preaching against porn using non-empirical data and scare tactics......think about the 1940s or 1930s film "Reefer Madness" but have porn as the subject versus weed. They construct porn as the pipeline to hell & everyone who even considers watching it a degenerate, very extreme viewpoints to say the least. I think rather than dismissing the woman, who may in fact be a nutbag of the highest order, we need to think about how to counter her by encouraging a worker's rights organization within porn not tied to any religion. The lawyers on this board ought to get to work and solicit funds from the rest of us to counter this movement. My guess is that Howard Stern is an unfriendly audience for her, but let her get the attention of a Joel Osteen or the 700 club etc. and the culture-moral wars are on again with support from former talent legitimately screwed (literally and figuratively) by the industry. Take a look at the cite and read the testimonies of former stars, some even legendary and quite well known, who've gotten chewed up and spit out and left hanging. I say take her seriously, acknowledge that she has a point on the count of mal-treatment of talent, but that she is off base demonizing porn and porn fans as the cause of American moral decay etc.......believe me for many reasons i keep my eye on the religious right and they are dangerous on many fronts....not the least of which is our right to make rational adult choices on where we spend our entertainment dollars. Harri Patel wrote: elgringoviejo58 wrote: ... now is just running a scam. Click to expand While she's apparently making money from what she's doing, I really think that the heart of the matter is that she's a mental case. Howard Stern had her on a month or two ago. It was a fairly long segment, and he didn't really challenge anything she was saying, or even ask that many questions; just let her go on and on and on. She starts off sounding rational and "on-message," but the longer she talks, the more she gets into these elaborate, obviously fabricated accounts in which basically she is victimized by everyone she has ever encountered in her entire life. I think she's just a pathological attention whore, like people who claim they were abducted by aliens or subjected to satanic rituals by their pre-school teacher or whatever. Click to expand [Link]
vanessadelriolover Member I woke up today and everything is still everything! 403 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 28 2010 : 5:56AM to hari patel and others, here is the kind of attention outside of Howard Stern that turns her into a hero rather than a nutbag, she's extraordinarily determined and that could be a bad thing for all of us fans of the adult industry. i've attached a sacramento area news story on her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZctA9SjF0 [Link]
pringles All-Star Member 1351 Posts 2/08	Posted - Feb 16 2011 : 7:48PM New Documentary Exposes Shelley Lubben's Lies (AVN/Mark Kernes) The Devil and Shelley Lubben Episode 1 (15 minutes) Episode 2 (15 minutes) It features Michael Whiteacre, Julie Meadows, Nina Hartley, Kayden Kross, Monica Foster, Guy DaSilva and more. [Link]
mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06	Posted - Feb 17 2011 : 10:00AM When I first heard about Shelly Lubben I figured that she was one of these kinds of people who make a major change in their life such as losing a lot of weight or stopped smoking or drinking. People like that tend to want to tell everyone they meet how "they" are living the wrong way. But the more I learned, the more I was very interested to see if she was serious about what she was doing or if she was only using this as another way to get attention. She makes wildly broad statments about how ALL women in porn come from poor homes, are uneducated, have been molested, are on drugs and so on. Since I am the exact opposite of all her claims, I wanted to talk to her at last year's AEE. I wanted her to explain to me how was it that I was in porn (and happy about it) when I wasn't in any of her all-inclusive conditions to be in porn. What I found out was that Shelly only makes herself available for press statements and photo-ops. While they have a booth at the AEE, she doesn't show up unless it's "all cameras on me" time. She lets her accolytes do all the talking otherwise. I began reading the stories of all her various converts and they all oddly sounded the same. Almost word for word. Any two of us could have the exact same experience and would tell the story in different fashions. Shelly's converts do not. They all tell essentially the same story in the same way. This led me to believe that all of these "true" testimonies are all scripted by Shelly. Hmmm...sounds fraudulent to me. Nothing seemed to really fall into place with her & her converts. I have read as much as I can about her and I have come to believe that she's a fake. A good fake, but a fake none the less. While I would disagree with her about her conclusions, I would be willing to give her credit for attempting to make the world better, if I thought that she was sincere. My conclusion is that she is not on the side of the angels, but on the side of Shelly. She's seeking the same type of attention she sought in porn. Someday I'd love to have a one on one, face to face talk with her and refute her all encompassing claims about porn performers. But I doubt that day will ever come, since she's VERY good at hiding when there are tough questions to be answered. XO Mindee Edited by - Mindee on 2/17/2011 10:07:29 AM [Link]
pringles All-Star Member 1351 Posts 2/08	Posted - Oct 5 2011 : 6:38PM Former Pink Crosser Michelle Avanti throws Shelley Lubben under the bus. (Michael Whitacre interview on October 2) Flashback: Andi Anderson on the Pink Cross [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Oct 5 2011 : 6:51PM Why he would publish that video is beyond me. That girl is inarticulate and has a horrible demeanor. [Link]
Digital Lust Self-removed All truth is parallel; All truth is untrue 768 Posts 10/11	Posted - Oct 5 2011 : 7:40PM I have a fascination with jerking off to ex-pornstars who quit for religious or feminist reasons. I've been in debates in the past with anti-porn feminists and it's frustrating talking to them. They come to such illogical conclusions such as "the porn industry's mission is to oppress women". The best part is asking them for an explanation as to why they think that. Edited by - Digital Lust on 10/5/2011 7:47:42 PM [Link]

beejay14 Member 23 Posts 9/11	Posted - Oct 5 2011 : 10:12PM BustdownGal wrote: this is a photo from Shelley's own myspace page. her own caption is "MMMMMM". I think she's 'avin' a laugh with all this. Click to expand Nice pink heels hooker! I hate her!! She's a walking contradiction. (and it sucks that sierra sinn is gone. she's a fucking queen spinner slut!!) [Link]
pringles All-Star Member 1351 Posts 2/08	Posted - Dec 17 2011 : 4:22PM Julie Meadows: Amateur performer Diamond speaks out on Shelley Lubben [Link]
MattyD74 Senior Member I used to watch porn. I still do but I used to, too. 1515 Posts 8/09	Posted - Dec 17 2011 : 4:45PM Her gangbang is one of my favorite vids! [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Dec 17 2011 : 4:49PM ^ Thanks pringles. Curious stories. I must admit, that while highlighting the hypocrisy of the foundation is fine and dandy, I'm not keen on the way some critics enjoy showing how "slutty" or "stripper-like" she is, as if that is a logical critique. It seems self-defeating and contradictory (maybe even hypocritical in return). To me the main critique should be that her foundation does not help women in the way it says it does, and she exploits women that she claims to be saving from exploitation. There needn't be so much attention to what she wears or how she dances. I understand that this is part of calling her a hypocrite, but it tends to go a bit too far in the wrong direction, losing sight of what the real problem is. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Dec 17 2011 : 6:05PM ^ I agree with you GGG. It made me uncomfortable when people were saying that Shelley shouldn't be having fun and dressing sexy and dancing at a karaoke, for example, because that 'just makes her a whore like the others' or whatever language many posters were using. There is plenty to hate about Ms Lubben, but none of it should have anything to do with her style of dress, or even her sexual habits. I think her tax forms alone, that I posted about earlier in this thread, should be reason enough for anyone to not trust her. As a brief summary: while in 2008 and 2009 her charity's stated purpose was to help out former porn performers by providing funds for them, only 2.3% of donated money was actually committed to that goal. [Link]
edking Member Bobbi Starr 474 Posts 7/07	Posted - Mar 21 2012 : 3:19AM Interesting new interview with Sierra Sinn claims Shelly "ruined [her] life," among other things. But more interesting, she seems eager to come back to porn, if the interview is to be believed. Read through to the end. [Link]
zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10	Posted - Mar 25 2012 : 6:18PM Sounds like Shelly is a pimp. But she is not much different than other ministers except she specifically targets pornstars. How many TV ministers have you seen that turned out to be rip off artists. I've seen real organizations that help girls get out of street prostitution and none of them make youtube videos of the girls in order to promote their cause or get donations or a TV show? That is just victimizing them again. If Shelly was serious she would be working with those organizations. Sounds like she's just running a scam to support herself. That being said, if girls really do want to get out of porn it should be made clear to them they are not going be living the same lifestyle especially nowadays with so many people out of work. You cannot expect to be making same big bucks working a straight job unless you have lot of work experience or training. The smart ones will use some of that money for school or maybe buy a franchise or start a business. Otherwise welcome to the real world. Sounds like Sierra was not prepared and Shelly didn't tell her how big a lifestyle change it would. And the older the older they get the harder it will be to change. Imagine a pornstar interviewing for a job. First question will be what have you been doing the last few years. I guess you could lie and make up some stuff. So if Sierra does come back she should have a plan to get out later. You cannot do porn forever. [Link]
Herzog Deactivated User 245 Posts 2/12	Posted - Mar 25 2012 : 6:25PM BustdownGal wrote: this is a photo from Shelley's own myspace page. her own caption is "MMMMMM". I think she's 'avin' a laugh with all this. Click to expand Come back Shelly! [Link]
Float_my_boat All-Star Member 1311 Posts 6/09	Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 1:25AM Interesting article in the new L.A. Weekly about Lubben. [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 8:30AM Saw her being interviewed by Dr. Drew last night on Headline News. Gave it 30-seconds before moving on. It really is a farce that she is accorded such credibility by the mainstream world -- who repeatedly prove they know nothing about porn and adult, don't care about learning and honest reporting, and will continue to offer pre-determined hit pieces on porn and adult to pander to their ignorant mainstream audiences (who only "know" what the mainstream media feed them). [Link]

Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 8:35AM ^ Nicely put. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 8:49PM Goldstein wrote: Saw her being interviewed by Dr. Drew last night on Headline News. Gave it 30-seconds before moving on. It really is a farce that she is accorded such credibility by the mainstream world -- who repeatedly prove they know nothing about porn and adult, don't care about learning and honest reporting, and will continue to offer pre-determined hit pieces on porn and adult to pander to their ignorant mainstream audiences (who only "know" what the mainstream media feed them). Click to expand I think the danger of people like her isn't that she will persuade many people in the porn business and destroy the adult film industry from inside. The danger is that she will persuade many people outside the porn industry to vote for anti-porn political candidates and to pass anti-porn laws. This is how alcohol prohibition worked in USA in the past. And that's why some people like her have a hope that porn-prohibition might some day succeed in USA too. If you get enough people on your side, then the laws and even the Constitution can be changed to reduce some people's rights, or even throw them in jail. Democracy can and sometimes does become a dictatorship of the majority that doesn't have much respect for the rights of unpopular minorities. [Link]
Blomkvist Deactivated User 129 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 9:42PM Dan wrote: I think the danger of people like her isn't that she will persuade many people in the porn business and destroy the adult film industry from inside. The danger is that she will persuade many people outside the porn industry to vote for anti-porn political candidates and to pass anti-porn laws. This is how alcohol prohibition worked in USA in the past. And that's why some people like her have a hope that porn-prohibition might some day succeed in USA too. If you get enough people on your side, then the laws and even the Constitution can be changed to reduce some people's rights, or even throw them in jail. Democracy can and sometimes does become a dictatorship of the majority that doesn't have much respect for the rights of unpopular minorities. Click to expand On the one hand you refer to the exercise of freedom of speech as presenting a "danger" and on the other hand you fear the Constitution being changed? There seems to be an internal conflict going on there. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 12:48AM Blomkvist wrote: On the one hand you refer to the exercise of freedom of speech as presenting a "danger" and on the other hand you fear the Constitution being changed? There seems to be an internal conflict going on there. Click to expand It's no secret that Hitler has used his freedom of speech in Germany to subvert democracy and to persuade many people to create a dictatorship. This kind of thing can happen in any democracy, which makes it a real danger in USA too. A few generations ago, many Americans used their freedom of speech to advocate slavery and to support discrimination against American blacks. And for for a long time they successfully persuaded enough American voters to support their views in elections, in selection of judges, and in the making of laws. Democracy is just a way of gaining consensus among the people for governing their country. And it is a good way, but it's not perfect. Because it's possible to persuade many people to be unjust in their behavior towards others. American slavery is a good historical example of this. And slavery existed in ancient Greek democracy too. Democracy is good, but it's not nearly as perfect as many people would like to think it is. [Link]
Blomkvist Deactivated User 129 Posts 12/11	Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 2:23AM There you go. Godwin's Law. Never fails. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 4:16AM Just because a democracy has the potential to go bad, doesn't necessarily mean that it will go bad. That's why you shouldn't ignore people who try to persuade others against you. They can do real harm, and you must argue against them to defend your rights. Innocent people can get convicted in court, when they have poor defense. And it's like this in democracy too, when you aren't defending yourself. [Link]
Katvena Member Rocco & Nacho are the KINGS OF HARDCORE and yes I am a Red Blooded WOMAN 402 Posts 8/12	Posted - Aug 31 2012 : 8:15PM I know is that she is no true christran. She comes across to me as a person with mental problems and a fake and a liar. I got this on some website on her. We begin with the adventures of our favorite ex-porn girl Ministress, Shelley Lubben…who got caught early last week by Sean Tompkins of The Real Pornwikileaks attempting to crawfish her way out of one of her most embarrassing moments: the historic Porn Star Kareoke event of 2009. That would be the one where Shelley was filmed getting her tits signed by porn legend Ron Jeremy after sucessfully bidding for a “date” with him..then cutting it up on the dance floor with stripper moves that Shyla Stylez would be impressed with. Problem is, though, that doesn’t quite jibe with the image of a stout, austere, anal-retentive fundie Christian out to “save” impressionable porn girls from their clits that Shelley would rather put out in public. So, when one of her peeps attempted to get Lubben’s side of the story on what she was actually doing at that PSK fundraiser, the Ministress came up with an explanation worthy of notice. And, that would be “worthy” as in….the craziest and most hilarious Goddess damn lie pulled out of her ass since the many dicks that used that particular orfice in Roxy’s Gangbang 3: Yeah, right, Shelley. If you really knew Ron Jeremy as a “close friend of yours”, then why would you assume that he would ambush you like that and force his Sharpie on your “clavicle” like that?? That a man whom almost all his peers describes as a total teetottlar who doesn’t even drink socially, would go out and essentially sexually harass a close personal friend..or any woman, for that matter?? And also, don’t you think that most normal, sane women would respond to someone putting a Sharpie anywhere on their person with something a bit more direct than looking up at the sky and “praying to God”, and then waiting one month later to admonish him for his “boorish” behavior?? More than likely, the only prayers that would be given would be for Hedgehog’s life after the offending woman kicked the living shit out of him….right before the cops arrived to arrest him for sexual assault with an ink pen. The other issue with Shelley’s tale is that she forgot that people carry mobile phones with them…the kind that make pictures which are posted to YouTube and websites like TRPWL. You know….like this one?? Yeah…she sure looks real sad and angry that RonJ is signing her “clavicle”. And she looks even sadder and angrier outside the club, too: I guess you’d feel “sad and angry,” too, if you just wasted $700 of your ministry’s cash on attempting to bear God’s witness to a porn hunk like Ron Jeremy. Or…maybe, it’s just the Seroquet and Henny kicking in to numb the pain. Oh, but Shelley wasn’t finished with her rationalizations. Far from it. Oh, yes, indeed. You see, Clones, only us freakin’ heathens and porn-addicted losers would see a woman dressed in her perfect Sunday-go-to-slut-out gear and spend $600 of her own ministry’s money to act like a squeeful fangirl and get an autograph from a legend in his field. I guess that in private, she would have sealed the deal of “saving” Jeremy by signing her name on his dick, then?? And what, Ministress Lubben, of this video showing you dancing wild and free?? Was that the Holy Spirit and the Holy Annoiting flowing..or was it just a tad too much Patron?? Pink Cross Foundation President Shelley Lubben cutting up the rug at the Porn Star Kareoke fundraiser in 2010 (via YouTube, h/t Jordan Owen) ‘Course, no one — not even me — begrudges even Shelley Lubben of her right to cut it loose and have a swell time on occasion, and even get a bit carried away in the spirit of alcohol. All of God’s children stray from time to time. The problem is, Minitress, just own up to it and acknowledge it, and stop trying to pretend that you are so above being human and that you can impose ruleson others that you yourself won’t follow. The road to Hell is not paved with temporary strayers….but chronic, deliberate liars. And, especially, hypocrites. Here are the pics from the website. Edited by - katvena on 8/31/2012 8:27:11 PM [Link]
His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10	Posted - Aug 31 2012 : 10:18PM This chick Shelley is a fucking fake ass bible thumper! I bet the Hedgehog reamed her ass that night! But it's ok because I'm sure she asked for forgiveness lol! [Link]
bellend Deactivated User 570 Posts 9/09	Posted - Aug 31 2012 : 10:26PM Perhaps the worst part of fallen religious people is not the faux strength they get from Jesus but its the nonsense they claim that gets cured/corrected simply by reading a book and saying some words. Luben claims God cured her of herpes here: LOL! Long youtube speech or Shelly Luben [Link]
joeblow123321 Member 319 Posts 11/09	Posted - Sep 3 2012 : 5:31PM I think the most amazing thing about Shelly Lubben isn't that she's basically used and suckered various girls who wanted to leave the biz (I'm thinking specifically of Sierra Sinn and her recent statements about the help--or lack thereof--that Shelly provided). The most amazing thing is that she has been saying for a decade now that she is a former porn star and yet as near as I can tell no one has every been able to document a single film she was in, provide a link to a video, a photo, nothing. You hear about "thousands of girls ruining their lives because video is forever and you cannot erase your past in the age of the internet"... yet Lubben seems to have done just that... OR, it's yet another thing she's lying about (for whatever inexplicable reason). I might be mistaken about the proof... if so, can someone post something, ANYTHING, that is verifiable proof of her past? Obviously don't post a tube link, but if you can't post a link, can you post general search terms that you used to find said imagery or videos? [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Sep 3 2012 : 6:15PM ^ Shelley Lubben performed as Roxy. [Link]
Katvena Member Rocco & Nacho are the KINGS OF HARDCORE and yes I am a Red Blooded WOMAN 402 Posts 8/12	Posted - Sep 3 2012 : 6:49PM joeblow123321 take a look at those 6 link. Click On This Link Click On This Link Click On This Link Click On This Link Click On This Link Click On This Link Edited by - katvena on 9/3/2012 6:49:50 PM [Link]
joeblow123321 Member 319 Posts 11/09	Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 12:53AM Ah, thank you... she seems to be having so god damned much fun in those scenes... [Link]
Katvena Member Rocco & Nacho are the KINGS OF HARDCORE and yes I am a Red Blooded WOMAN 402 Posts 8/12	Posted - Sep 4 2012 : 1:42AM Np. [Link]
pringles All-Star Member 1351 Posts 2/08	Posted - May 16 2013 : 10:47AM Another one: Former Pink Crosser Savannah Jane says "fake Christian" Shelley Lubben "uses God & Jesus like a costume" (YouTube video by Michael Whiteacre) [Link]
InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12	Posted - May 16 2013 : 8:42PM ^ Is this the a another reason why Nadia Styles left her to go back into porn because Shelly Lubben is an fake. [Link]