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Another thing to note is it seems KGB seems to have taken over directing duty for this site? The last time an American scene not directed by this person was the April 4th scene with Liz Jordan and Vanna Bardot, directed by Laurent Sky. One thing I do miss about those Laurent scenes is the ultra-closeup oral. They can and often do look really luscious.

Edited by - blackdragontea on 6/20/2023 12:33:14 PM

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Another KGB scene, another music video opening! Again I like it. Anyway, the two kiss frantically and Ryan is a little bit rough with Violet. Both women have great breasts, and I think the scene does a good job showing them off.

Violet does a great job using her mouth and fingers on Ryan.

Then it's Ryan's turn. We get a moment where she uses her breast to rub against Violet. This particular sexual act doesn't mean much to me, except Ryan's breast looks really nice. Then she uses her mouth and fingers on Violet. She alternates between licking, rubbing, penetrating, and sucking on Violet. Really well done. To me this is the best part of the scene.

The over-the-back analingus makes a (for me) unfortunate comeback. Here Ryan's tongue action is pretty weak, so weak, actually Violet prefers her own finger. Anyway, later they turn on their side and Violet uses her fingers really well; when Ryan starts rubbing her own clit, it becomes really hot.

After that there's some weird stuff: a very weird tribbing attempt with the most awkward angle imaginable, and a part where Violet strangely bounces up and down on Ryan's tongue. Anyway, later her hungry oral on Ryan is excellent. Finally, a really good KGB tribbing scene. Ryan forcefully rubs herself against Violet, and we can see their pussies rubbing sexily together. The ending is really interesting: the last four minutes (out of a 40 minute scene) are spent on the two of the lustily kissing and touching each other as if none of the preceding action has sated their hunger. A very sexy ending.

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Speaking of Ryan Ryans, there's one weird detail about her on Slayed. If you go to the Models page and sort by Popularity, she is currently #1 with a user rating of 8.8. This is far ahead of #2 Vanna Bardot at 7.4. A cursory examination shows there's no gap of this size among any other models. Also, this is one website ranking where there's no general grade inflation. For example, among the lowest ranked stars, we find Ember Snow at 3.7 and Jazmin Luv at 3.5. Brutal.

Anyway, it looks like the next scene may have strap-on. I hope for two things: try the feeldoe, something that potentially gives pleasure for both partners but I've only ever seen on StrapLez for some reason; no more RCG position, since in a g/g scene the audience actually want to see both participants.

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As I said, it has a BDSM-vibe, though certainly nothing too heavy duty. Vicki's tight pants are awesome, and she packs a strap-on. No kissing yet. Kazumi has to choke on the strap-on first.

No foreplay, we go straight for a first class strap-on fucking. This is definitely the best part of the scene and one of the best strap-on action I've seen. Vicki fucks Kazumi hard and deep, and Kazumi's moans and gasps are very sexy.

We finally get to kissing after this. It's "in character" but also playful. As Kazumi puckers up, Vicki first says, "You don't get to kiss me until I say so." After playing around with Kazumi a bit more, Vicki asks, "What do you want to do?" Kazumi says, "I want to feel your lips on me." Then they do kiss, hot and wet. Vicki later asks Kazumi to stick her tongue and and she sucks on Kazumi's tongue. In a funny moment, later Kazumi asks Vicki to stick her tongue out, and Vicki says, "You don't get to tell me what to do."

Kazumi's oral is very good. This is not a face sitting, but more a face-riding, as Vicki roughly rubs herself against the tongue and mouth of Kazumi. Very sexy, very well done by both women. Later they also get into some pretty nice tribbing, with dominant Vicki clearly taking charge.

A very interesting bit of breast play follows, where we see in real time a bit of mentoring, if you will, by the more experienced Vicki. She first asks Kazumi, "Make my tits hurt. Can you do that?" Kazumi gamely gives it a go as she licks Vicki's breast, who is clearly not satisfied. So she says, "Let me show you." She first lightly slaps Kazumi's breasts, then sucks on them hard. Kazumi catches on quickly and sucks and squeezes Vicki's breasts, much to Vicki's satisfaction.

Later they get into a 69, first side-by-side, then in a more convetional position. The camera mostly focuses on Kazumi, and she does really well, burying her mouth in Vicki, and licking and sucking on Vicki's clit.

This scene does have two shortcomings. One is where Kazumi tries to do analingus, and she's clearly not that interested. The other is that a magic wand/Hitachi is used for both women. Both of them clearly enjoy it, but it's mostly just one of them holding it against the other, whereas I feel it should always be combined with other actions (kissing, fingering, etc.)

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Edited by - Graciefan on 6/29/2023 9:59:41 AM

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Top: Jazlyn Ray & Blake Blossom
Bottom: Ryan Ryans & Violet Starr

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25 minute scene, probably 4 minutes worth of good material. It's Caprice's oral on Melena. Her style is not unlike that of Liz Jordan: earnest and persistent licking of the clitoris, but she doesn't close her mouth and suck on it (which is what I like to see). It doesn't exactly match my taste, but I acknowledge it as not bad at all and can respect it. It also looks like Caprice is very good with using her fingers and combining them with her mouth (something I really like to see). It's too bad her nails are too long to allow anything more than minimal force. I have recently highlighted Vivian Fox, Jazlyn Ray, and Scarlett Sage's choice to just trim two of their nails short while keeping the others long. For those who like longer nails, I hope this becomes a popular compromise.

The rest of the scene is just 😴 Just look at the end: they go from bad tribbing, to mutual masturbation, to Melena watching Caprice masturbating, to a "kiss" where they strive for minimal contact (to be fair, this is not necessarily the fault of both, because if one of them makes it clear she don't want to be seriously kissed, the other will have to accommodate).

Subscriber ratings tend to rise over time, but as of right now, it's at 7.7, which grants it the coveted place of worst rated scene ever.

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I always say that I, again barring an income change, would pay $200-300 a year for a site that is actually good. Sites may have to define a smaller set of fans willing to pay a premium to keep content going at a steady pace. What I think I know is that, if 4 scenes a month isn't economically viable, keeping the sub price the same and reducing output isn't a long-lasting preservation solution. Just delays the inevitable. I think GG sites will have to go high-dollar niche.

All that blabbing done, it could actually just be that Vixen has entered the date incorrectly or maybe they had some kind of production snafu and the site is doing fine monetarily. But I do know that Girlfriendsfilms went from 8 videos per month to 4 last year. And someone mentioned LesbianX, which before today went TWO MONTHS without a new video. Not to mention sites like FillyFilms, which closed years ago, that had content far better than the stuff coming out today.

GG fans are not buying, not at a high rate anyway.

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Anyway, the niche route will be the only way to compete going forward, as the success of sites Premiumbukkake proves that there are people willing to spend $40+ in exchange for frequent updates in a niche they love. I think almost all of us would pay that amount for a site that is updated 8-10 times a month with an 80-90% "hit rate". I for one am still waiting for a GG site that makes Closeups/Ultra Closeups in 4K their thing (in the vein of WLW and KMG, bonus points if it features newbies. Honorable mentions to Wow Girls and "Laurent Style" Slayed), and would pay all the $$$ it if it meant I got what I wanted on a consistent basis.

The high-production niche route is the only approach that makes sense, which is also bolstered by the fact that people are paying $$$ for mostly mediocre stuff on Onlyfans. I know this is a controversial opinion, but I would also support it if the new sites were "streaming only", provided they guarantee higher content output (8-10+ scenes a month).

~Doobie

(P.S. Point 1 - I'm crossing my fingers that ATK gets a clue and tries to compete with Excogi Girls in the "Amateur Lesbian" category, as there are likely plenty of girls looking to make a name for themselves before they "retire" in favor of their Onlyfans account. A guy can dream....

Point 2. I also feel like producers need to stick with an aesthetic more - case in point: I signed up for Laurent's Ultracloseups, not KGB's standard scenes).

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Oh, and brazzers upcoming "GG" scene again features a dude, just like what rk.com is doing. Their metrics must show a higher engagement for those scenes.

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The other lesbian content getting a weekly release at Girlsway/Adulttime is their version of LesbianX. People seem to love it, which is interesting considering LesbianX is dead. Maybe Mason just needs to add mindless talking before her videos and the site will pick up more subscribers.

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Kayden Kross
Laurent Sky
Derek Dozer
Chef
Julia Grandi and Jia Lissa
KGB

Edited by - cara on 7/6/2023 4:42:39 AM

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Also, it's pretty amusing that all the recent comments on the Caprice and Melena scene are bitching about this late new scene issue. I guess people just lack a viable alternative to get communication from the producers, and are not even pretending to be interested in that scene any more. You might as well add your request for more Stella scenes in there. I suspect it would do no more good.

To be fair, some performers do seem to participate in the comments. Kazumi, for example, replied to a few comments on the scene she had with Vicki Chase.

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This is a good scene featuring some really nice actions, which are good both in technique and energy. It's rated relatively highly at 9.4 and deservedly so.

The opening premise is pretty humorous. Ivy plays the popcorn-eating lazy "guy" stereotype who enjoys her girlfriend Izzy pleasuring her, but is too lazy to do anything for Izzy. When the scene "officially" begins later, we start with Ivy's excellent oral on Izzy, I guess as an apology.

Very nice closeups of Ivy sucking on Izzy's clit are present too. I also appreciate the way the sex sort of sticks to the story, however flimsy it may be. It starts with Izzy "woken up" by Ivy's oral sex, then only afterward they go into kissing and teasing, both of which are very nice.

Ivy goes back to excellent oral sex. Then she uses her fingers on Izzy. I really like the way she's not just blindly pumping hard, but using her fingers to rub the insde of Izzy, and kissing her all the while. This sort of face-to-face fingering position is one of my favorites. There's also a brief but sexy part where Ivy rubs herself against Izzy's thigh.

Izzy's oral sex is also really good with a lot of very nice closeups.

Then comes the dreaded (for me) over-the-back camera angle. The action is just really awkward. All the things they do here, they can do a lot better in far more comfortable positions. The only reason this position is adopted is because this affords an unique view of the vaginas to the audience.

I think I have finally figured out why I so dislike this position. It's pandering, but doing it way too hard. As an audience member, sure I like to be pandered like everyone else, but it has to be within some reasonable boundary. An analogy might be the casting of a very beautiful and sexually appealing actress in a mainstream, non-adult film. And let's say it's an action movie. Sure, everyone knows what at least part of her role is, and I have no objections to showing her fighting/doing stunts in a lot of tight clothing. But if she gets into a lot of highly contrived situations just to get her thin t-shirt wet and/or ripped, I will be very annoyed.

The only good thing about this part is that at least in this video it doesn't last that long (only 15 minutes out of a 41 minutes video).

Fortunately the scene ends on a high note, as Ivy goes back to great oral sex (if only for a short while).

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But I also wonder if the site was ever taken as seriously and if they had the same level of interest in it as they do for their B/G ones when it was being created in the first place.

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Check Behind the scenes:
The making of "Piqued"
The making of "Arabesque"

Those are also not shot in the default grey bedroom studio. Having various directors is possibly a matter of filling gaps, managing budgets.

Girls are expensive to begin with 😅 having 2 (or more) top rate girls for every scene, expensive lingerie/jewelry, personal makeup artists. I imagine slayed is the most expensive production of all vmg.

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On the expense thing: I also suspect g/g scenes are more expensive than b/g scene on average. By the same logic, I would assume lesbian threesomes (or bigger orgies) are even more expensive to produce. This has prompted me to do some counting. These are the studios that I watch the most often and have at least weekly update (except Slayed, now).

- Slayed: 3/108 scenes have 3 or more women, or 2.8%
- Adult Time: out of the most recent 120 non-solo lesbian scenes, 27 have 3 or more women, or 22.5%.
- Girlfriends Films: out of the most recent 120 scenes (excluding compilation, archive, partner), only 1 has 3 or more women (it's a threesome), or 0.8%.
- All Her Luv: out of the most recent 120 scenes, 2 have 3 or more, or 1.7%
- Sweetheart Video: out of the most recent 120, 8 have 3 or more, or 6.7%
- Viv Thomas: out of the most recent 120 non-bts scenes, 2 have 3 or more, or 1.7%

Adult Time is really exceptional here. On one hand it's frustrating to me, as I personally don't like most such scenes. On the other hand, it does show an extraordinary financial commitment from AT to the g/g genre.

Edited by - blackdragontea on 7/9/2023 2:06:58 AM

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End of the day, Slayed is the same thing that there was already a ton of: pretty women doing mostly clownish sex acts that don't actually please women...just in more expensive lingerie.

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Edited by - whyalwaysbilly on 7/9/2023 4:38:06 AM

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Girls that are well known but maybe not very lesbian, I could do without. The euro girls for example. I think those are all selected by their looks over lesbian performance. I wouldn't mind seeing completely unknown girls, recruits from OF. If that is any less expensive. Deeper did that with Dubsie.

Violet Myers and Anissa Kate "Confrontation" is the worst Slayed performance I've seen.

Edited by - cara on 7/9/2023 6:18:43 AM

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