steven french should be in jail - not in porn (page 5)

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dac David Aaron Clark Just another WKW wannabe 574 Posts 2/04	Posted - Apr 8 2006 : 4:48PM I think her ties to Malice/Johnson preclude her from wanting to stick her neck out on this one ... Everett wrote: curiously someone is missing in this thread: the lovely Gia Jordan. She once said she likes choking in her movies. It would be interesting to hear her comments. Click to expand [Link]
SickandTired New Member 4 Posts 3/06	Posted - May 31 2006 : 6:01PM Time for a short update. After submitting my copies of "Donkey Punch" along with other artifacts, I was contacted by several other state attorney's offices who were copied on my materials by Ms. Gandy. At least one of them have already taken action, although I find it interesting to note that the "Donkey Punch" DVD wasn't named. I'm certain it soon will be, as I'm assured a number of other titles. While I'm disappointed that the nature of the legal action against the producers of this travesty isn't, in fact, assault and battery charges, it appears that justice, however convoluted, is being meted out in one manner or another. And as pointed out elsewhere in this thread, if you want to kill the snakes behind JM, you have to go for their wallets. More info as it becomes public. For now, this should suffice. http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Articles&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=268873 CHATSWORTH, Calif. - Federal indictments charging seven counts of interstate trafficking in obscene material were unsealed today against JM Productions and its principal Jeff Steward, as well as retailer/distributor Five Star Video and two of its principals. The indictment charges both physical and Web transportation of material included in the video features Gag Factor 15 and 18, and American Bukkake 13, all of which were produced by JM, and Filthy Things 6, a Powersville Production distributed by JM. Specifically, the indictment, which was handed down on May 23, charges that the Five Star Video defendants "knowingly used an interactive computer service and other facilities and means of interstate and foreign commerce to sell and distribute, to a location in Northern Virginia, obscene DVDs ... in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1465 and (2)(a)," the federal obscenity crimes sections. The transportation allegedly took place on Feb. 6 of this year. The indictment also charges that those same defendants "knowingly used the United States mails to mail and deliver to a location in Northern Virginia, a DVD containing obscene matter," while another set of counts charges that those same defendants "knowingly used an express company or other common carrier for carriage in interstate commerce and delivery to a location outside of the State of Arizona, of a package which contained DVDs that are obscene." [Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 2:39AM That creaking sound you just heard was Pandora's Box being opened. If you want to go after the perpetrator for assault and battery fine but there will be no shortage of government busybodies that will take this ball and run with it as far as they can in terms of going willynilly with obensity charges for anything they can remotely connect with this. [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 2:47AM the unknown pervert wrote: That creaking sound you just heard was Pandora's Box being opened. If you want to go after the perpetrator for assault and battery fine but there will be no shortage of government busybodies that will take this ball and run with it as far as they can in terms of going willynilly with obensity charges for anything they can remotely connect with this. Click to expand Good. The jack asses who get off on producing/watching physical abuse and psychological humiliation of women (which has nothing at all to do with the fantasy that is porn) should ALL be rounded up and carted off to prison. [Link]

gia jordan Member 670 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 3:13AM dac wrote: I think her ties to Malice/Johnson preclude her from wanting to stick her neck out on this one ... Everett wrote: curiously someone is missing in this thread: the lovely Gia Jordan. She once said she likes choking in her movies. It would be interesting to hear her comments. Click to expand Click to expand No ties. I just don't get involved in political discussions. To answer Everett's question, I have a passionate side, but I also really get off on getting roughed up such as choking; however Donkey Punching? Never. I'm not into any kind of punching. [Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 3:33AM the unknown pervert wrote: That creaking sound you just heard was Pandora's Box being opened. If you want to go after the perpetrator for assault and battery fine but there will be no shortage of government busybodies that will take this ball and run with it as far as they can in terms of going willynilly with obscenity charges for anything they can remotely connect with this. Click to expand edited due to mind thinking obscenity and fingers thinking obesity [Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 3:44AM Midtown wrote: the unknown pervert wrote: That creaking sound you just heard was Pandora's Box being opened. If you want to go after the perpetrator for assault and battery fine but there will be no shortage of government busybodies that will take this ball and run with it as far as they can in terms of going willynilly with obensity charges for anything they can remotely connect with this. Click to expand Good. The jack asses who get off on producing/watching physical abuse and psychological humiliation of women (which has nothing at all to do with the fantasy that is porn) should ALL be rounded up and carted off to prison. Click to expand The problem is "psychological humiliation" is a subjective matter. Just because you think the porn you watch does not psychologically humiliate the performers doesn't mean a prosecutor or other government official(particularly self-righteous, "family oriented" ones running for re-election on this agenda) will agree with your opinion. [Link]
ipop Senior Member 1115 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 4:16AM It seems as though this is just a coincidence and doesn't have anything to do with this guy complaining about Donkey Punch. The indictments are all related to a sale in Virginia of videos other than Donkey Punch, and they came from the US Attorneys. These guys probably won't get any help from the Free Speech Coalition. I caught an article from October, 2001 where Steward apparently had a little battle with the coalition's director. JM PRODUCTIONS PRODUCES VID CALLING FOR FSC DISBANDMENT Steward Labels Margold 'Hypocrite'; Margold Says Steward 'Unworthy' of Response NORTHRIDGE, Calif. - Blasting Free Speech Coalition Director Bill Margold as "a hypocritical, opportunistic coward," JM Productions recently produced a short video calling for the FSC's disbandment. JM Productions head Jeff Steward told AVN the "infomercial" will appear on his company's DVD and video releases starting in the early fall. The anti-FSC spot is the latest salvo in a feud between Steward and Margold that began in July. The animosity began after Margold made disparaging remarks on Salon.com toward Steward's American Bukkake series, one volume of which was seized several months ago by Los Angeles police. "I think the biggest thing bukkake proves is that the adult-movie industry has forgotten how to create," Margold was quoted as saying. An angry Steward railed back on AVN.com against what he perceives as Margold's hypocrisy and failure to support the rights of fellow pornographers. A JM Productions press release stated in part: "... Bill Margold represents all that is wrong within the adult industry. In the wake of his recent ramblings against American Bukkake and hardcore adult entertainment in general, we at JM Productions look forward to exposing Bill Margold's (Anti) Freedom of Speech Coalition as the corrupt organization it truly is to both retailers and consumers alike... This infomercial will be available to all production companies who do not adhere to Bill Margold's 'Freedom of speech, but watch what you say' philosophy." Margold had not seen the infomercial at press time, but said he was aware of Steward's press release, and commented: "These people are now in my opinion unworthy of responding to." He declined further comment. But FSC treasurer Al Bloom said he feels Steward is "misinformed" and that the infomercial will only damage its creator. "Bill Margold does not speak for the FSC," Bloom explained. "Bill is free to make whatever comments he wants to make on his own, but I don't believe he prefaced his remarks by saying he was representing the Free Speech Coalition. This guy [Steward] has got himself a little bit turned backwards. Whatever beef he has with Bill, he shouldn't be taking it out on the FSC or the 75 percent of the industry who support the FSC, many of whom are his customers." Regarding the anti-FSC infomercial, Bloom said: "It's a good thing for the rest of the industry... they'll be able to identify his tapes, and they'll know who the bad guys are. I would put [Steward] out there as one of the bad guys. It's really silly of him to do that." Steward may have more serious concerns than his tiff with Margold. In May, Los Angeles police served search warrants on the JM executive, seizing copies of his American Bukakke 11 and Liquid Gold 5. As of press time, no obscenity charges have been filed against Steward, who believes both tapes fall within California community standards. Some legal observers speculate that Los Angeles prosecutors are waiting to see what the outcome of the Adam Glasser (aka Seymore Butts) misdemeanor obscenity trial is before making a decision whether to charge Steward. As of press time, Glasser's trial on charges that a fisting scene in Tampa Tushy Fest is obscene is scheduled to begin Oct. 15. - David Sullivan Click to expand http://www.adultvideonews.com/bone/by1001_01.html Edited by - ipop on 6/1/2006 4:17:52 AM [Link]
Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 9:08AM These guys probably won't get any help from the Free Speech Coalition. I caught an article from October, 2001 where Steward apparently had a little battle with the coalition's director. Click to expand People in porn have exceptionally short memories - and their expectations of people are very low. That behavior is typical Jeff Steward yet I only know of a few retailers who stopped carrying his titles due to his unprofessionalism. [Link]
BenSanderson Member 55 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 4:49PM people who get upset about porn, and people who prosecute/persecute legit pornographers are low life scum. [Link]
Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 4:55PM BenSanderson wrote: people who get upset about porn, and people who prosecute/persecute legit pornographers are low life scum. Click to expand Yeah, right. Anyone who produces or gets off on watching a film where a woman is punched in the face during a sex act is the real scum bag. Furthermore, this type of crap is precisely the fuel that the moral majority needs to bring down the entire porn industry. Keep it up, sick bastards. You're going to ruin the fun for everyone. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 5:14PM BenSanderson wrote: people who get upset about porn, and people who prosecute/persecute legit pornographers are low life scum. Click to expand How is your statement any better than those made by the most vociferous anti-pornographers? Vilifying those who dislike porn does nothing to promote any kind of rapprochement. Certainly one doesn't have to be scum to be upset about porn. Porn companies don't do themselves any favors by putting out content with titles which are sophmoric at best and insulting at worst. Crap like Donkey Punch doesn't serve to improve the view of most people about porn, either. I doubt that most people will ever think that hitting somebody during sex is a good thing. [Link]
Yankey Doodel Member 283 Posts 11/05	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 6:26PM Ahh, not this again! Yeah, I don't see any real evidence that these particular charges are connected to the weird Donkey Punch gift set that was supposedly sent out. I suppose it could've played a part in attracting attention. Anyway, hopefully Donkey Punch itself will remain out of it and the porners will win, for the sake of precedent if nothing else. [Link]
BenSanderson Member 55 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 8:09PM did I in any way mention Donkey Punch in my post? There are far greater things to worry about than what people are or are not producing and viewing in pornoland. [Link]

Midtown Deactivated User 299 Posts 7/05	Posted - Jun 1 2006 : 8:31PM BenSanderson wrote: did I in any way mention Donkey Punch in my post? There are far greater things to worry about than what people are or are not producing and viewing in pornoland. Click to expand Pardon me. I forgot that protection of female performers takes a back seat to: (1) protection of porn producers' copyrights, and (2) new ideas for increasing the amount of cum that a woman can injest during a porn shoot. [Link]
Zartyr Member 700 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jun 2 2006 : 9:17PM S. French is not K. Kinski - dirty duck IIRC - nuff said. [Link]
Walter All-Star Member 1445 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jun 2 2006 : 11:05PM Zartyr wrote: S. French is not K. Kinski - dirty duck IIRC - nuff said. Click to expand I don't understand. Could you please clarify? Thanks. Edited by - Walter on 6/2/2006 11:16:16 PM [Link]
Zartyr Member 700 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jun 3 2006 : 7:34AM Walter wrote: Zartyr wrote: S. French is not K. Kinski - dirty duck IIRC - nuff said. Click to expand I don't understand. Could you please clarify? Thanks. Click to expand Read the "autobiography" Ich bin so wild nach deinem Erdbeermund . [Link]
K Smitten Kitten Cloud 9 530 Posts 2/06	Posted - Jun 3 2006 : 8:44AM BenSanderson wrote: people who get upset about porn, and people who prosecute/persecute legit pornographers are low life scum. Click to expand Then they'll be in good company, considering what a disturbingly large percentage of pornographers are low life scum. (c) Mudslinging Inc. [Link]
lessthanzero Member 89 Posts 6/06	Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 5:04AM JEWEL wrote: What the hell is wrong with these guys??? I'm all about great sex and some rough stuff but it's acting and girls willing to do it and not be pushed into something so awful. I hate hearing this stuff it makes me so damn mad and makes our industry look like crap so clean it up guys and stop the circus acts and the jailhouse porn. If you want to beat someone or degrade women go to biker bar in Arkansas and marry a toothless hag who condones that type of behavior. Click to expand This from the Star of "Forced Entry", the Rape/Murder porn flick. Slapped around by Luc, simulated rape, simulated murder, and pissed on before you are killed. And that's just the first scene. The other girls got slapped around worse than you, but JM should stop the "circus acts and jailhouse porn". Im surprised Rob didn't run right out and start shooting that, you know that he would have no problem with it. Oh, you were only acting, true, but the slaps were real, and probably the piss too. And so was the effect on the public and feds, that was definitely real. Damn baby, I didn't notice your huge balls flopping around when Luc was smacking you around. As long as the performers are of age, and consenting, I wouldn't tell anyone what they should or shouldn't watch. [Link]
lessthanzero Member 89 Posts 6/06	Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 5:12AM And isn't you're mom doing porn now? What's your stepdad think about that? I'm sure that the Colorado conservatives would also be interested in this new development, and how it reflects on their political choices. [Link]
Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99	Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 11:00AM lessthanzero - don't be a dick. [Link]
Tessa Member 337 Posts 7/22	Posted - Nov 25 2022 : 2:54PM It has been years since anybody posted in this thread. I didn't learn about the scene or what donkey punching meant until years after this scene coming across the message Alex Devine wrote outlining her horrific experience. The scene is still posted online and she's not exaggerating. Though I haven't met Alex Devine or Steven French, I was in 2 earlier videos the Johnson brothers directed. I blogged about this and the issue of consent in porn here: https://veganvixentessa.blogspot.com/2022/11/consent-is-hot.html As far as I know, the Johnson brothers no longer produce porn. Please correct if I'm wrong. Edited by - Tessa on 12/2/2022 3:54:24 PM [Link]
Mike Hawk CEO Dixon Cider Member I heard that! 885 Posts 1/20	Posted - Nov 28 2022 : 6:44PM I went back and perused this thread. Lots of industry names chiming in on this issue even if it was 15 years ago. [Link]

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