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Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 10 2012 : 4:35PM
^ I guess your review sounded more like a critique of the fact that they're shooting photos not videos (but it's about the making of a book of photos...), and the fact that there is nudity but no sex.
If your dislike of it is actually based on your feeling that the documentary is superficial and the interviews do not go into enough depth about some subjects that you thought they should delve into, then your critique is much more reasonable. Out of interest, what did you want the interviews to delve into more?
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Posted - Jul 10 2012 : 5:27PM
Perhaps my review was not specific enough, I only tried to discourage people to save them disappointment. The Thinking XXX interviews told me nothing, literally. I would have liked to know anything about the adult industry, both pros and cons.
As I listed earlier in this thread, I found the Shauna Grant and Ron Jeremy documentaries worthwhile to view. The life story of Shauna Grant was tragic and Ron Jeremy reflecting on his relationships within the industry were special as was how he got into the business.
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Watched this doc, the profile of John Leslie is excellent and touching. Someone should do a doc just on the classic era performers and directors before they all pass away.
 
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Posted - Jan 28 2013 : 8:17AM
Slightly off topic and you may already be aware but this maybe of interest to some.
The Aroused Project
There's a documentary film being released on the 15th March directed by Deborah Anderson called Aroused - The Lost Sensuality of a Woman. It follows sixteen adult performers and documents their lives in an atypical porn documentary way, rather more focusing on their stories of being women.
It feels like an age since I wanted to see this and finally we have a release date, fingers crossed it lives up to expectations.
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Posted - Jan 28 2013 : 5:59PM
^^^^^^^^^
looks interesting ..
.. thanks for the links Jonny Jay.
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Posted - Jan 29 2013 : 10:09PM
The Louis Theroux ones were good - one was last year around 10 years after the first. He interviews Tommy Gunn, Kagney Linn Karter as well as others.
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Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 12:45PM
Mutantes: Punk Porn Feminism (Virginie Despentes, 2009) streaming on netflix.
"Through a lens of pro-sex feminism, this documentary maps the evolution of the "post-porn" movement, featuring interviews with pioneers like Annie Sprinkle, Carol Queen, Coralie Trinh Thi and Lydia Lunch."
I have heard great things about this film and have it lined up to watch soon.
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Posted - Aug 1 2013 : 3:08AM
"After Porn Ends" is an interesting watch, but my problem is that the filmmakers were looking for the usual sad tales of people who entered porn and then regretted it, but, while they did get that with Crissy Moran and Shelly Lubben, they didn't get it with everyone, so at the ending, they had to make it seem like some of their lives were terrible. I've heard Raylene say that she hates the way the film make her look.
The one documentary that still sticks with me is the one that Frontline did in the late 80's on Shauna Grant. "Death of a Porn Queen".
Edited by - katar hol on 8/1/2013 3:14:23 AM
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Posted - Aug 1 2013 : 8:27AM
Could you provide a link to where you read/heard this? I would be very interested.
I actually thought they gave a pretty balanced perspective, in spite of some of the more revolting and offensive things some of the participants had to say. If there was an overarching message the doc seemed to be wanting to say it's that social stigma causes problems for sex workers more than the work itself, most especially for women.
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Posted - Aug 1 2013 : 8:56PM
^ I wonder if a documentary that showed porn in a mostly positive light would be a succcess. It seems that many people want/expect a story of broken dreams and sad endings when it comes to porn because society keeps trying to pound it in our heads that sex on film is this sleazy thing done by broken people who do it because they can't do anything else.
Has anyone ever done a documentary that focuses more on the the current directors than the performers? I was kinda put off by the way Luke Ford and Bill Margold were putting down the women and wonder what people who actually work with performers but don't appear in the movies have to say and their insights on the performers. I'd be curious if any directors have the disdain for the women performers that Luke Ford has...even though his career is built off their backs.
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Posted - Aug 1 2013 : 9:12PM
^ Those were the two I was referring to re: offensive and disgusting. It was also embarrassing.
I don't know of any docs about "generic" porn that are 100% positive. But I would be just as suspicious of those as I would be of ones that are 100% negative. I don't see the value of either. It's just reactive. If you want to see positive docs though, your best best is Mutantes, mentioned above, or Hot and Bothered.
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Posted - Aug 2 2013 : 12:24AM
I'll see if Netflix up here has that title. If so, I'll watch it tomorrow night. Thanks Triple G!
 
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Posted - Aug 2 2013 : 9:13AM
Yeah, I don't think there's anything that's really negative about the porn biz in general. There of course bad people in the industry but that's true of most other industries. I think if you eliminate the stigma and bad apples, porn could be a great gig for the right type of people. It's interesting that for some people porn can be a positive experience and for others it's the worse thing that could happen to them.
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Posted - Aug 2 2013 : 3:55PM
It was one of the episodes of "Wednesday Night Threeway" that she, Kylie Ireland and Derrick Pierce were doing on The Toadhop Network. I don't remember which episode though. I think they still have archives on the show since they haven't done a new one in months since they started needing sponsors.
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Posted - Aug 4 2013 : 5:47AM
As someone else suggested, Exhausted: the True Story. John Holmes documentary. Lots of porn clips and info on John Holmes too.
John Holmes was an asshole, but I can't help but like him at the same time LOL But we all know he was a scumbag
Wadd was a fantastic documentary too
He said Seka sucked the best dick ha!
I had Deep Throat the documentary, but I never watched it.
I wish I had, I'll have to get it again. Linda Lovelace hated her life when doing porn.
It's interesting how much porn has changed. The women, the style of movies, everything. In porn I'm looking for people fucking, but old pornos like the Johnny Wadd films are just classic.
It would be entertaining if porn directors would make a real film like a movie how they made the old 70's style pornos like Deep Throat and Debbie Does Dallas and tried, tried to make porn stars try to act, and even take that part seriously, but put some effort into the video too so it doesn't looks like a movie not like an online porn.
This is something that will probably never happen lol
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Posted - Aug 5 2013 : 9:08AM
I would love to see a porn doc that focused mostly on how porn has changed over the years from the DEEP THROAT era to the present. Interviewing Nina Hartley would be great for something like that because she's been around for a lot of the changes.
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Posted - Aug 14 2013 : 7:39PM
^ That is essentially the focus of the television series Pornography: The Secret History of Civilization. Recommended.
You mean something more focused, I know, but there is an episode in there that covers what you're talking about. You just get the added bonus of even more (very important) context leading up to the 1970s.
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Posted - Aug 14 2013 : 7:49PM
I watched MUTANTES on netflix a couple of days ago. Low budget, as esoteric and non-mainstream docs are wont to be, but very good. Carol Leigh (Scarlot Harlot) steals the show. That woman is fucking amazing. Oh, and Annie Sprinkle. But that kinda goes without saying. :)
mutantesNext up, I need to get a copy of HOT & BOTHERED.
hot and bothered
Also, while it's only tangentially a "porn doc," I really want to see SEXING THE TRANSMAN.
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Posted - Aug 14 2013 : 9:53PM
Thanks for the recommendation. It looks interesting and has very positive reviews. I'm guessing it's not on NETFLIX so I'll order it.
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Posted - Oct 27 2013 : 12:35AM
This porn documentary was on in the UK,Date My Porn Star You can read more here it featured 3 males who were besotted with their fave porn stars and got to meet them as as the name of the documentary suggests they got to "date" them too,there was a gay gay who loved Cody Cummings and since the program was looking for shock value and to make the porn world a reality check for the guys it was not all it seemed and for the gay guy who was fuelled by lust for Cody it turned out Cody's scenes were staged/fake porn and that he was straight and actually had a partner and a child too,the other guy loved Tanya Tate and the other guy loved Jessica Jaymes.
Porno Dan was in it too

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Posted - Oct 28 2013 : 2:14PM
It's on Netflix and it is very boring, strangely subjective, pretentious and superficial. You will definitely use FF.

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Posted - Oct 28 2013 : 3:31PM
Absolutely terrible doc, albeit with some unintentionally hilarious moments. Choice quote from Jonathan (on returning to the UK from LA): "I'm not as much of a misogynist as I was". Oh, that's okay then. That the programme makers chose only to show girls who were having (or had) a hard time was about as predictable as snowfall in Lapland. Totally and utterly one-sided; I don't know why I bother to watch shows about porn on mainstream television, they always - always - wind me up with their impartiality.
 
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^I mean lack of impartiality. See? The programme made me so mad, I don't even know what I'm saying. Grrr.
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I'm going to an advance screening of I ALWAYS SAID YES: THE MANY LIVES OF WAKEFIELD POOLE this evening. Clips and trailers here.
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^ How was it?
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Great. A lot of people were crying as the credits rolled. It was quite moving. Lovely to see pieces from his films, and his life story is fascinating.
Can't wait for THE CHUCK HOLMES STORY.
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Posted - Nov 23 2013 : 4:40PM
Porn-O-Rama
This was produced by Paul Norman and shot mostly on the set of Hungry--or possibly Hungry 2; I've never seen either one and I don't know the difference. The show is broken up into five half-hours and is hostted by Ron Jeremy and Alexis DeVell, who go around interviewing the performers on the set. Doesn't really offer any fresh insights into the adult industry, but it is good to see interviews with Samantha Strong and Peter North--I've always felt that North doesn't get as much attention as he deserves, given the longevity and the influence he's had with the industry.
It may not be the best documentary on porn, but I think it is worth the time.
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Posted - Feb 19 2014 : 7:09PM
I watched another documentary aired in the UK this time on cam girls it featured 3 girls and one was Keisha Kane the ex pornstar,she did not enjoy her porn scenes at all and maybe it was just the documentary but she came across as hating men (her words,she went on to say that she would not do porn again but would maybe do Dom work (beating guys) to get back at guys or words to that effect) even though she was on cam getting guys to pay to watch her she was shacked up with her lesbian lover.
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Posted - Jul 15 2014 : 5:56PM
Also, Candida Royalle is trying to get funding for a documentary about her search for her mother. I donated what I could. You can help fund it here.
"Candida Royalle is a woman you think you know, with a story you’ve heard before.
A porn star, turned producer, turned advocate for women’s sexual rights.
But inside the story you know, is a woman you don’t.
Candice.
Abandoned by her mother at a young age and raised in unusual circumstances, she was at the heart of these big moments, cultural shifts, who chose a path not many would... and then found a way to change her story... who fought for every inch of her success, who faced cancer head-on... and through all that, came to THIS place... this point where she's ready to tell her own story in a way we've never imagined... through the search for a mother she never knew... but is it too late?"
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Posted - Jul 16 2014 : 9:19PM
Someone should make a documentary on the life and career of Nina Hartley. As a highly articulate woman, Nina gives the ant-porn moralists fits, because most porn fighters try to promote the stereotype that women who do erotic movies are of low intelligence, and lack control over their own lives.
Nina graduated Magna Cum Laude from San Francisco State's School of Nursing. Obviously with that kind of academic honor to her credit, Nina could have pursued a very successful career in the field of nursing, if that had been her choice. However, instead, in 1984 Nina embarked on a career in adult movies, with the first feature she performed in being aptly titled "Educating Nina."
And it is certainly by her own choice that Ms Hartley has stayed committed to her career in the adult industry for 30 years now. That industry should be proud of the way Nina has
stood up for it, in debates about porn, where Nina always represents her side with dignity and intelligence.
Any ADT members who follow the interviews with pornstars on this site, already know that Nina Hartley is far from the only one in the world of porn who has intelligent viewpoints as well as plans for the future direction of their life. We need more documentaries about people whose lives are examples of that fact. Naturally, though, the news media just focuses on pornstars involved in tragedies or legal trouble. So, what else is new. That's just like where you have a class of hard working, well behaved kids in a high school history class.
None of these kids will get on the evening news. But if the 18 year old goof off, who sits in back of the room, suddenly stabs the teacher through the neck with a pen, you can bet
that's one student who will make it onto the evening newscasts.
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Posted - Jul 17 2014 : 2:03AM
^
I watched that one a few years ago. It had some very interesting details about his birth, his first career as a special needs teacher and his girlfriend. Yes, I know he has made mistakes in the past, yet, I've never discovered exactly what the hell he did to make folks angry. I don't want to know the negative side of Ron Jeremy. When he kicks the bucket one day, I'd like to remember him as a good-natured, hilarious, hedgehog.
 
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Posted - Jul 17 2014 : 8:39AM
I finally saw the Stacy Valentine documentary after wanting to see it for quite a while. I enjoyed it and thought it was interesting. I think I tend to like the doc where the people in porn enjoy what they do or at least don'/didn't hate it.
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Posted - Jul 18 2014 : 12:29PM
In 2002 the 'E' channel broadcast a 2 hour doc. (well, 2 hrs including commercials) on 80s porn superstar Ginger Lynn.
Just watched it again recently. as I transferred my VHS recording of it to DVD.
The doc. is really interesting as it relates, among other things, how the feds leaned on Ginger in an effort to try to make her testify against the porn industry.
Also, Ron Jeremy relates how when he met Ginger, he was shocked that such "a cute and adorable girl" was getting into porn. (but that was at the end of 1983, how things have changed, it's almost routine to have great looking women starring in porn today)
And famed Penthouse photographer (among her better known jobs) Suze Randall talks about Ginger and describes her as "an Olympic Athlete of Sex."
Anyhow, thought this was a strong documentary.
Also, like some other ADT members, saw and liked PBS's Frontline Documentary "Death of a Porn Queen" about the tragic Colleen Applegate alias pornstar Shauna Grant. Happened to have also recorded that doc. when PBS aired it in June 1987. (also recently transferred to DVD)
Besides all the sadness in Death of a Porn Queen, a fascinating little tidbit it provides is showing a glimpse of Godfather director Francis Coppola, sitting at a table at the Jan 1987 AVN Awards. At that same awards ceremony, Ginger Lynn is shown accepting an award for Blame It On Ginger, while admitting to being unaware about which of the scenes in the flick won her the award.
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Posted - Jul 20 2014 : 3:57AM
^It was the 80's. It would have been more of surprise if Ginger had remembered at the time.
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^ Good point, because Ginger mentioned that she did quite a lot of partying in the 80s. Ginger even talked about being sent back to jail, for a short time, as the result of failing a drug test.
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Posted - Jul 20 2014 : 9:57AM
The Truth About Webcam Girls. Anything that claims to tell "the truth" is immediately suspicious to me. :) It's just a little BBC doc though, and seems like it will have that unique British sensational style. I believe it's available on netflix.
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Posted - Nov 29 2014 : 9:57AM
I watched MR. ANGEL on netflix streaming. Highly recommended. The film glosses over some of the problematic things Angel has said in the past, but this is a great biopic, full of candour in other respects. Angel's story is fascinating (and heart breaking in places), and the scenes where Angel shops his product around Europe etc. are really interesting.
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My favourite is the "Porn" episode of "Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends".
I'm a big fan of his, and my particular favourite line is when Rob Black is showing him through the Elegant Angel stock pile and he picks up a DVD and remarks... "Oh, Beefeaters... that would go down well in the British market".
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Posted - Feb 5 2015 : 9:02PM
^ I enjoyed that episode also. Watching it now, the moral grandstanding is a bit much though.
More critique of HOT GIRLS WANTED from Susan Elizabeth Shepard at Vice.
"Porn performers need the space to talk about bad experiences, however they describe them, without having them used as evidence against their entire business. Hot Girls Wanted reinforces tired sexual stereotypes that harm all women, while ignoring the real work concerns specific to porn performers. In its moral simplicity and willingness to exploit its subjects, it ends up resembling the genre it aims to expose."
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Posted - Feb 5 2015 : 10:35PM
^ Appreciate and respect your comment, fella. But I personally feel that Theroux is great, the porn documentary included, for being fair yet being himself when it comes to the crunch.
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Don't know if this has been mentioned but there was a 2001 Channel 4 (UK) documentary, titled, simply, Hardcore. It followed an English girl's attempts to break into US porn and is notorious for a particular sequence featuring Max Hardcore. I recorded it on VHS (at the time) but that's long gone. As far as I'm aware, it has never been repeated though there are clips on youtube. I remember being fascinated to see one of my favourite stars, Layla Jade, just being her real (ie. non-porn) self in interview. Would really like to watch the full thing again.
There was also Tim Samuels' 2009 doc Hardcore Profits on the BBC, a more general look at the 'pervasiveness' of porn in the 21st Century. I remember Max Hardcore getting another kicking, the presenter being shocked at how easy it is to order XXX DVDs from Amazon and taking hotel chains to task over their offering cable porn in their rooms.
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Posted - Feb 7 2015 : 2:59AM
They're not documentaries, but I have to put a mention in for the podcasts at The Rialto Report. They have a lot of really good interviews with people from the Golden Age of Porn.
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^I hope we get to see the full version of that movie.
It is.
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Posted - Feb 17 2015 : 10:09AM
Oh, and also the Rialto team have been working on their own a/v documentary for some time now. I imagine it's fantastic and am eager for it to get finished.
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