I think what Jewel refers to is what I call 'Liberal fascism.' The attempt by liberals to make everyone conform to their ideal image of what a politically correct person should say and do. This is no better or worse than anything your average neo-con or socialist would try to do. All political groups try to make people conform to their way of looking at the world, including liberals. We have no more to thank the liberals for in this world than anything else Conservatives or socialists have done in the past. As Mr Garrison once said in South Park, "being tolerant of something doesn't mean you have to like it, you just have to fucking put up with it!"
Gold....pure gold! Certainly adds to the taboo factor, doesn't it? Isn't porn about seeing chicks do shit there's no fucking way they would do in real life? Kind of funny if you sense a point during the scene when it hits them and they get that "what the fuck am I doing?" look. Yup...the more disgusted, the better.
No doubt, and I don't mean to offend, but for some if not many, the appeal of porn is the perception of the girl not necessarily wanting to do it. More appropriate examples would be ATM or having multiple parolees splooge on their face. It was meant as more of commentary or observation than a reflection of my own feelings towards the genre.
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Posted - May 8 2007 : 10:57PM
How come there is no raw interacial anal sex? Like some black guy that just released from prison and he needs sex. And he finds a tight white 18 year old and fucks her in the ass right away with plenty-o-dirty anal.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - May 9 2007 : 1:06AM
There is alot of stupid inter-racial content floating around. Until this thread I didn't realize how stupid it was--here's an example of the racist-inspired content--SpringThomas.com I quote from their ad (caps are theirs): "Spring pleases more black males than WELFARE." http://galleries.springthomas.com/pics/01/index.php?nats=MTEzNTc6Mjoy,0,0,0,40&content=cuckold_eats_some_cum
And more of this stupid inter-racial racist content--maybe the white men that buy inter-racial have low self-esteem.
www.springthomas.com "For this week's update I dragged Whiteboy along with me to watch as I please two anonymous negros. I let Whiteboy touch my boobies for 5 whole seconds while we were in there, and at the end, I allow Whiteboy to please himself against the Gloryhole wall! It was pretty funny watching him stroke that tiny meat, but he was so good he deserved at least that. What fun! Until next week -- XOXOXO -- Spring PS: Me and Whiteboy broke up yesterday...wanna be my next BF? :)"
What's the point of holding white directors responsible for black performers' decisions to do these jobs? Hard to respect you p.o.v. when it seems based entirely on a racist double-standard.
There is an imbalance of power in this equasion that you're not factoring in. The director and producers already have the job. The talent has to vie for the job. The directors and producers can still make good IR, without all the humiliation. If the talent doesn't want to be humiliated he can walk. BUT, now he's out of a job.
You think chicks to 5 ass to mouth gapes a day because they like it? It's for the money. Male talent has to go where the money is, and for Black men in the biz, that means degrading racist shit. Or starve.
So yes, I blame the directors. I blame the producers. Because they have the power to change things but won't. Don't make me quote Spidey's Uncle Ben...
it's just human nature. a young petite milky skinned blond girl getting fucked by a muscled ebony black stud with a 11 inch cock adds a more intrigue and interest to a film.
white men dislike it on one hand but still like to watch that huge cock make her cum from pleasure and pain.
black men want that taboo white chick on film and in real life, and the whiter, blonder the better.
white girls love the black cock, their taboo too, something they can't get otherwise.
black women want to watch the white chick get a REAL fucking from a REAL stud, but only on loan.
Directors can't take their jobs for granted; they have to vie for money like everyone else. A director can make no money without performers or customers. Black performers wouldn't starve if they declined certain scenes, though they might have to get normal jobs to earn money for food, like most black and white people.
Edited by - Thomas D C on 5/9/2007 4:24:14 PM
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T0201 Deactivated User
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Posted - May 9 2007 : 11:37PM
As most of the directors and consumers of IR content are paradoxically non-black it shouldn't surprise us that they would produce and support this kind of racist material.
So basically you are saying that the young white female is the most sexually desirable human form amongst every race on earth?
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Posted - May 10 2007 : 10:26PM
I think it's much funnier & far more ignorant/racist to accept the blatantly incorrect perception that every white man has a penis inferior to that of a negro. But, I guess they need to make up for some shortcomings after being owned 150 years ago. Reparations maybe?
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Posted - May 10 2007 : 10:29PM
Ditto. Why is it that all the n****r porn, or porn that prominently features the use of this word, is made by white directors aiming it white audiences? Is there any such proof of this racial stereotyping?
I see blacks in real life running around calling each other those words all the time, does that make it OK because they're using it intra-race?
Then why are the black folk the majority of those complaining? They don't appear to be complaining about anything other than how come that chick won't do black men? Very few are actually in protest of the suck this n****r cock scenes that are produced. And those viewers that are, always claim such porn is for whitey? :huh01:
I agree i actually like when a girl never fucks a black dude cause i get ashamed jk lol. Nah really though example Vicky vette never does and she is one of my favs
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - May 10 2007 : 11:17PM
Maybe the guys that like watching black guys do white women are secretly gay for black men. Spring Thomas cuckolds whiteboy. Whiteboy gets to jerk off next to the glory hole. Yeah, what's sticking out of that glory hole--a black c_ck. So how can "whiteboy" even manage to get off if he isn't gay? Maybe dudes that watch black guys doing white women in porn are gay for black men. There is an element of the white woman humiliating a "whiteboy". That whole cuckold fetish is full of black men humiliating whiteboy by making him suck c_m out of the white girl's pussy. White men who can only get off to black men doing white women are gay for black men--just look how some in this thread talk longingly about ample black endowment (which is a myth that has some basis in fact when slaveowners, finding a slave with a large endowment, would "breed" him with female slaves, since it was believed fertility was linked to size.
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T0201 Deactivated User
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Posted - May 11 2007 : 1:22AM
Reparations would involve more than will ever be given, including any amount of money.
And about the "incorrect" perception. Well whites have to accept the monster they've created through their racism over the past 500 years. Because they can't have it both ways.
Either they fully accept the racist stereotypes that they've spread about Blacks concerning their physical superiority and all the conclusions that one can draw about other groups, including the physical inferiority of whites, which follows by logical extension.
Or they give up their racism and see Blacks as they are, human beings just like them and no better or worse than them.
But of course since we're still talking about this nonsense it's obvious how it's going to continue to be.
And the n-word issue is an intra-racial thing, just like most people can use terms among their friends and family that strangers can't. It's just understood that that's how it is.
The 5 or so posts above me,remind me the monster which the American founding fathers created. This Issue of race will drag on forever at least in America. Other Western Countries have learned from their past and are moving on. I hope someone comes in a puts some sence into this thread.
In my experience from seeing black men with white women in the real world, and there aren't many where I live. The black guys tend to go for big or fat not particularly attractive white women rather than the skinny girls you see getting fucked in porn. Is there something about the "big mamma" in that?
Certainly Black people in general are not so culturally biased against heavy people as, say, mainstream white America tends to be. But also, because of the taboos involved, you tend to see people with low self esteem involved in these relationships. People who feel like they don't "fit in" with their own ethnic peers.
This, obviously, is a general analysis and not meant to speak for every individual case. But it is what I have found. Now, if you look at LA or NY, things are vastly different. You will see very successful Black men with dynamite white women. At most college campuses with a major sports program (Division 1) you will see an orgy of Black jocks on white foxes.
I guess it really depends on who's in the relationship, and where you are as an observer. I have noticed myself that many white men would rather have a sickeningly skinny white woman who is hideous than a beautiful white woman who's a size 6. I once heard a white dude refer to Monica Bellucci as a "fat woman" after seeing her stunning hips poke out of that white dress in the Matrix Reloaded. That's just twisted.
I guess we all have our tastes...
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Posted - May 14 2007 : 6:21AM
So based on your limited observations you concluded this?
smg4ever wrote:Yes, there is SMG. Our darker-skinned brethren have a genetic inter-cultural predilection for caucasian women who are grateful to have a "black dick' to play with (especially suck on) without a real (black) man having to go through the effete, reciprocal measure of eating pussy in return. (SATIRE) I hope this helps!
If there's anything real racist about the porn industry (in the west) it's the fact that you virtually NEVER see an asian man (asian-american or asian) having sex with a white woman. I think it's quite telling that almost every debate about IR focuses on black vs white.
This is ironic given the fact that you often see asian females having sex with black or white men. The 'rationale' seems to go like this: "It's ok that white men fuck asian girls, but it's not ok that asian men fuck white girls."
Could it be that white men feel that asian men are not sexually worthy of 'their' white girls? And that white women in general feel that they're 'degrading' themselves (in their own eyes or the eyes of other men and women) by having sex with asian men? (but the same woman wouldn't mind having sex with an asian girl in her next film). The term 'degrading' implies of course that the woman sees the asian man as inferior in some way or another.
Could it be because of the myth that asian men has much smaller dicks than white or black men? (their dicks are smaller, but the difference is much smaller on average than most people think). Or could it be because many people in the west think asian males look (sexually) unattractive?
The sex industry tries to produce stuff that they hope will sell, and they probably think that very few people would want to see a white chick getting fucked by an asian man. However, there are all sort of niche markets in the porn industry, that caters to all sort of fetishes. Vastly overweight women having sex with small men is one example.
This also demonstrates that good looks isn't everything after all, since some people like watching 'big' women having sex (and you could argue that many of the white/black men you see in these films aren't exceptionally attractive either, although they might have an above average sized dick). But the point is that it hardly seems to be even a niche market for "asian men on white females". I think the industry needs to realize that there are actually people in the west who like watching AM/WF porn.
I guess the only way to watch an asian man having sex with a white woman onscreen is to buy porn movies from East Asia (usually Japan). Some (or perhaps many?) movies there feature white women and asian men.
It would be interesting to hear some opinions from the white adult actresses here. Would you appear in a porn flick with asian men? Why or why not? It would also be interesting to hear from white actresses who've had sex with asian women.
At least black men are considered worthy to have sex with, in contrast to asian men. And the stereotype that black men have superior physique is a positive stereotype compared to the negative steretypes surrounding asian men.
Don't get me wrong: Blacks have not always been enjoying the social stature they have today; you've fought hard for your rights, and you deserve all the fair treatment that you've got. But many negative steretypes still surround asians in the west, even asian-americans (because many people view them as one group: In contrast, I don't think many (white) Americans automatically think "Oh, that guy must be from africa" when they see a black man walking down the street). And socially and culturally, blacks or african americans have progressed much further in western society than asians, who are more often looked upon as 'alien'.
If that's 'real' racism, how about virtually no asian males compared to black males?
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Posted - May 24 2007 : 9:21PM
What are you babbling about? Asians have the highest proportion (about 50%) of college grads of any ethnic group in the country. They look at non-Asians as "alien" or worse.
I wasn't talking about academic success. I was talking about social and cultural progress.
We know that asians have higher IQs on average than both blacks and whites, and that they generally succeed quite well (above average) academically. But succeeding academically or having high IQs isn't necessarily the same as being accepted socially in a western society. Asian americans/europeans aren't as 'integrated' as blacks from a social or cultural standpoint.
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Posted - May 24 2007 : 9:53PM
To sam46 & Creampie;
The two of are clueless. If you are going to bump a thread, at least read some of what was posted before.
I would simply say that you two are the finest example of racists at their most ignorant worst.
Wow. Now there's an elitist argument if I've ever heard one. Since you're all about "statistics", let's talk about the one that matters to porn producers most: average penis size.
Asians may or may not be long on brains. But they are definitely short on dick. I've watched enough Japanese porn to surmise that Asians are simply too small for American porn. I'm sure that there are exceptions, Hung Lo for example. But in general, Asians don't have the inches to stack up against the Black and white males in the business.
So yes, us dumb negroes may come up short on your culturally biased IQ tests, but we've got more than enough "natural endowment" where it really counts. Take a poll:
Would you rather have
a) 150 IQ and a 4 inch penis
or
b) 95 IQ and a 10 inch penis
I think the answer for most people is obvious...
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Posted - May 24 2007 : 10:43PM
It's inter-ethnic not interracial. We are all the human race with different ethnic backgrounds.
shotgun styles if u are serious....honestly i would take option a...the high IQ and small penis. i think many people given the choice would pick that option. 150 IQ is beyond genius level! that is like top 1% in the world!! if u are that smart life is sooo much easier because the economy values intelligence. smart people make all the money
if i were some bill gates type mega entreprener or even just a joe francis type business graduate who gets rich off a hot idea, then i would not give a fuck about having a 4 inch penis because it would still be getting sucked and into pussy anyway. u could keep a whole harem with that kind of bank & influence
not saying i agree with any of the IQ by race stuff just making a point......penis size is not where it really counts in the real world. in the porn world sure lol
I've never met anyone with an IQ over 110 that was happy. Ignorance is bliss, and people with that much brainpower know way too much. Also, there are alot of broke smart people and dumb rich people. George Forman is no genius.
I'll keep my big dick and ADHD, thanks...
I'll field that one. There is the theory of the sexual totem pole. It defines sexual attractiveness based on asthetics, mystique, prowess and taboo. From top to bottom it goes like this...
White women Black men Asian women Latin men Latin women White men Black women Asian men
Now, I did not create the totem pole, nor do I necessarily agree with it. But it is supposedly based on world wide polling. 5/2007 5:41
Edited by - shotgun styles on 5/25/2007 5:46:12 PM
Simply stating that people are ignorant, clueless and racist because they disagree with you is not an argument. If you're going to call people clueless and racist, and if you want to keep this discussion at a constructive level, then at least explain why you disagree with my views. If not, then I suggest that you keep your bombastic conclusions and "I know best, you're ignorant"-attitude for yourself.
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Posted - May 25 2007 : 6:15PM
Shotgun Styles: Where did you find those totem pole stats?
"World wide polling" comes off as a little on the nebulous side when there are no numbers.
You know, I just went looking for a reference. I got the totem pole back in 1998 or so in an e-mail. I remember being struck by how racist it sounded, and being pissed off at the person who sent it to me. But over time, looking at how society treats certain people based on thier race and sexuality, I'm starting to see how it was created.
But no, to answer your question. I don't have a reference. Chances are some guy in his basement just made the damn thing up. But think of it this way, if you were to order the totem pole based on the given criteria, would yours look much different?
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Posted - May 25 2007 : 6:43PM
Shotgun: I don't disagree with you about the general (very general) truth the totem pole expresses. I was just wondering.
I think it may only apply to the North American viewpoint. I find it hard to believe that regions where most people are not white folks that they would find white women to be the most attractive. But I have no real idea.
I just doubt that the totem pole would be the same if carved by, say, the Native Canadian Inuit population. And so on.
I was responding to sam64's argument. I explained to him that I already was aware of the academic progress of asians and their above average IQ's (which is related to their academic progress).
Besides, simply stating that asians score better on average in IQ tests is not racist. It's not subjective, it's a well-documented fact. I used this argument to support the fact that asians do well academically, NOT to put down black men.
I even mentioned earlier that asians on average have shorter dicks than blacks and whites! This is also well-documented. Yet, nobody seemed to react to that statement. Are we talking double-standards here?
You don't seem to have problems accepting that asians are "short on dick", but you're skeptical when it comes to their average IQ? Why is that?There are several problems with that argument:
- It's a myth that asians have much shorter dicks than whites or blacks. They're shorter, yes, but on average the difference isn't that big when the dicks are erect.
- Asian porn don't focus that much on the men or their dick sizes. They focus on the girls. So they don't pick men that necessarily have above average sized dicks. A lot of asian performers have average sized dicks, in contrast to white/black males in American porn who often have much bigger dicks than average. My point is simply that the asian porn actors aren't necessarily representative for the more 'well-hung' asian males out there. Believing that all asian males have small dicks is as absurd as believing that all black or white males have huge dicks.
And simply watching porn and drawing conclusions on dick sizes is very unscientific, because the guys you see in porn are in general not your average Joe when it comes to dick sizes.
Yes, in general, but does that explain why there are virtually NO asian males in American porn? There are exceptions after all.Well, you interpreted my statements the wrong way. I never intended to imply that you're dumb. Intelligence can be measured in many ways. I know several people (including blacks) who're bright and intelligent, despite not having a university degree. Blacks have succeeded better than asians when it comes to social integration in the US. I've already mentioned that. Having a high IQ is no guarantee for success in life. Which brings me back to my point and response to sam: Yes, asians have progressed far academically in the US, but not as much as blacks when it comes to social aspect.In porn movies, yes. But having a huge dick won't help you much if you're working as a computer programmer. My point is: It depends :)Really? I don't think so, unless you hope to start a career in the porn industry... You don't get into romantic relationships based on the other partner's breast size or dick size (and if you do, then there's a big chance that relationship won't last very long). Nor is a big dick necessary to give a woman pleasure, although it looks good on film when you jerk off.
Interesting. Do you have any references or sources?
You mentioned world wide polling. However, it seems to me that this list is heavily biased towards preferences among black men, because if you did the same survey in Africa or Asia, I'd think the ranking would look different. It also seems to me that this "totem pole theory" is heavily influenced by the stuff you see in the American porn industry (white females = Very popular, asian males = Very unpopular).
EDIT: Ok, I see that Conquistador have already posted the same question, and that you've responded to it while I was posting this message.
I'm not necessarily talking about only WF/AM, the point is that there are extremely few asian males in American/Western porn. Besides, if there were more asian males, then perhaps you'd see black women on asian males more often. I've seen porn in which black men fuck asian girls, though. So that doesn't seem to be a 'problem'.Good question. Although I'd change "white people" to "white girls", because it's the girls that are usually seen as the most attractive.
I think it has something to do with the way American/Western society influences other cultures through ads, commercials, movies, magazines and other media channels. Again and again we're presented with images of (beautiful) white women, often in a sexual way. But I really don't know. You'd probably need to ask a sex researcher about that...
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