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conquistador
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Posted - May 25 2007 : 7:22PM
Shotgun: I have been thinking about this more and i would never create a personal totem pole of attractiveness myself.

I take life as It comes and have been occasionally surprised with who I find attractive. Because I never know.

The more I think about my feelings the more I lose my prejudices towards "white women" "black women" or any other label.

I'm a straight guy and I think women are hot. In all the colors and from all the places they happen to be.


As far as this thread: I think it is insulting to be fed any sort of racial stereotype. Porn without bigotry is best but unfortunately it seems the best way to achieve that is to hire performers whose skin looks the same. It is stupid that black males have to play the insulting parts they do in black or "interracial" themed porn today. Sort of like finding out that everything you know is wrong. I have never met anyone of any color who acts like a thug/gangster/racist asshole who is often portrayed in black and IR titles.

Lots of porn that I have seen strives to put the viewer in the "driver's seat" ie. a scenario that *could* happen to you, like delivering pizzas, or whatever. Most white dudes in porn don't have to take on a stupid persona to be in movies while many black dudes I have seen (I am sure there are exceptions) have to play the part of thuggish miscreants. Mean roles, which often focus on rough behavior specifically towards white women. Stupid, and far from realistic.

I think I'm done with this thread. (only one race, humans)


Edited by - conquistador on 5/25/2007 7:31:28 PM

DirtyDoug
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Posted - May 25 2007 : 9:40PM
racist comment removed. adding a smilie does not negate your statement. you post anything like this again and you're gone. -steph

Edited by - steph on 5/26/2007 9:58:32 AM

Knocko
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:19AM
lol mannnnnn u are full of shit....if u have never met smart happy people then u dont get out too much. i could drive to the shitty part of town right now and find tons and tons of miserable ignorant dum-dums who arent smart enough to improve their situation or make most of education.

you know who dont think ignorance is bliss? ignorant people.....because they are just ignorant. ghettoes are full of them......

George Foreman is a stupid comparison becuz he is famous, a world class athlete with god given physical talents, u cannot compare him to some everyday no-name low IQ loser........

anyone in the real money work world will tell you.....you have to be smart to succeed. you have to have skills and intelligence and charm. economy values intelligence, no one wants to hire someone stupid. that is the truth & u know it.....

there are many many more dumb poor people then there are dumb rich people. the only dumb people who are rich are the ones who lucked into it or have smart people controlling them....

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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:23AM
Big black cocks rule so FUCK everyone!
 
Knocko
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:24AM
you would rather have a big dick and a learning disability instead of having top 1% in the world intelligence??? lol u must really be a fool.... or u are just trying to make yourself feel better about being learning disabled

u seem to be into eroticizing stereotypes.....that might make sense in the porn world....but in the real world? it is just stupid.....

conquistador
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:24AM
It is bizarre for me to see a post calling something out on being "dumb" but at the same time is spelled in such a way as to be an insult to the language.

I don't mean to be a dick, it's just really funny. (you know, in an ironic sort of way...)

Knocko
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:27AM
lol it is an internet forum about porn....i am not nerdy enough to worry about proper grammer & spelling on here
conquistador
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:28AM

Edited by - conquistador on 5/26/2007 1:39:38 AM

Knocko
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:41AM
lol what do you want, internet posts like business letters? on such topics as big black dicks in little white chicks? lol i will get right on it......where is my spelling & punctuation guide....

anyway my point is still true and cannot be denied.....in the real world intelligence is better than a big dick

as i say eroticizing stereotypes is fine in the porn world but it is ridiculous when u try to take them past this internet forum

guns&butter
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 9:48AM
hahahaha...preach white girl!

Seriously though, the human brain is the last scientific frontier. I.Q. tests are insulting to all our intelligence.

And really, average penis size is NOT a major factor in women's relationship and even sexual choices, nor is it a major issue in porn. Even the FAQ at iafd.com could tell you the latter. The shit sells, that's all. Women are attracted to so many non-physical things, it's fruitless to post things like sexual "totem poles" and take it as gospel.

Concerning Asian men in porn, I believe it's largely cultural. While Asian men are associated with supra-masculinity, like martial arts, for some reason they have always failed to translate that into a readily attractive thing to women. The discipline of it all doesn't seem to capture the imagination of women and the mild-manners of the Orient don't seem to even things out for them.

Read the somewhat bizarre accounts of the Frenchmen Henry Champly in "Road to Shanghai" and "White Women and Coloured Men". In his western travels he never came across an Asian "bully" (pimp) and felt opium was often the reason any white women would even consort with them. In the east, only by prostitution from Russia did they have access to white girls. This could be true but of course much of the stuff in his work is glaringly racist.

There not being many Asian men in the biz should be of no surprise to anyone, including Asian men themselves. As far as I can tell, there is no deliberate exclusion. Hell, the outrageously xenophobic TAYLOR RAIN, who regardless of how she really feels would never fuck a black guy on film (even though to girls like her 1 or more black men ravishing and treating her like some princess is probably her ultimate turn on), did it with a Asian guy on film. It seems almost purely cultural in nature. In America, black men are too essential to the question of sex, culture and the aesthetic well-being of us all to be ignored. A common cultural understanding like "cool" can attract white girls directly to black guys and to be perfectly honest, the prettiest of girls have a very visceral attraction toward them, often citing black men as their #1 weakness.

While I understand the Asian male's concerns, I think they oughtta be more concerned with real life and not their lack of representation in porn. It's not like they're ugly or undesirable. Asian men intermarry in places like California at a very high rate and nationally Asian men and women average the highest wages. Perhaps more power will even things out but it's doubtful the Eastern culture they're accustomed to will rub off on western girls in the way they would like.

AlexPanzer
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 10:20AM
Ghetto Thugsters on silky-white Slavic girls.
AlexPanzer
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 10:31AM
What if the white girl doesnt just like black guys?
Creampie
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:19PM
That was an intelligent and insightful comment indeed. And telling us to "fuck off" sounds like a nice way to begin a discussion with...

By the way, perhaps I should remind you about the Forum Netiquette:

Ramsey
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 1:57PM
With this thread going I wonder if I should start my own Why White on White Porn is Stupid like where's the thrill in seeing people from the same kind having sex?
 
leglover1000
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 2:05PM
Rams you kinda have a point there. But BTW did you check out zafira on HLF? Hot babe! She does a sexy handjob for a handjob sight as well.

Rock out

spitty
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 2:12PM
Yes...watching white people having sex together is completely illogical. How can anybody in their right mind get turned on by that ????
Actually Ramsey...kidding aside ....why not start that thread ?

Edited by - spitty on 5/26/2007 2:20:36 PM

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Posted - May 26 2007 : 2:35PM
Actually I won't, I just used it as an example, if someone can write reasons why they find interracial stupid then I can also write the opposite.
Creampie
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 2:57PM
Most people don't really know what an IQ test is and what it actually measures. There are many ways to measure intelligence (because intelligence can be seen in many different ways), and IQ tests specifically measures abstract and analytical thinking abilities. It doesn't measure your ability to spell correctly (you can have an IQ of 150 and still be dyslexic), your general knowledge or your memory 'capacity', for example.

And saying that IQ tests are insulting to all our intelligence is like saying that aptitude or skill tests are worthless. In fact, such tests can be useful if they're used in the right circumstances. Anyway, I'm not going to 'derail' this thread by starting a discussion about IQ and aptitude tests.

It seems to me that some porn watchers really buy into some of the myths, stereotypes and cliches that the porn industry present. They actually believe that a lot of women enjoy getting sperm sprayed onto their faces in real life. Or they believe that most women enjoy being gangbanged or fucked anally. Or that women are so hooked on penis size that they sneak in to their huge dicked neighbour's house to get a 'real' fuck.
Not for many women in western countries perhaps, but I think it has greater appeal for asian women (many women in asia practice martial arts themselves). Martial arts is a more integral part of asian culture than in the west.

But asian porn is generally softer and focuses more on technique (bondage, sexual stimulation of the woman prior to penetration, etc.) and sex objects (for stimulating the woman's breasts and vulva/vagina) than the masculinity of the male performers.

If big dicks and masculinity were that important, then you'd see more 'hunks' in asian porn. But porn as a profession has negative connotations in Japan (probably more so than in the US), so the chance of seeing sexy asian hunks in Japanese porn is relatively small. Those guys would probably prefer to earn their living in another, more 'respected' profession.

However, an asian actor in a western porn movie would of course need to follow a different approach (and in many cases meet other physical 'criteria') which appeals more to western audiences.

Never read those books so I can't really comment.
The problem is that we're not talking about "not many", but virtually "none".

But things don't have to be this way. And the same could perhaps be said of the porn industry about 40 years ago when concerning blacks. After the political climate and negative attitude towards blacks changed, blacks appeared more and more often in porn films because it became more culturally accepted.

I don't think there's anything fundamental that would prevent this from happening to asians as well. But somehow the stereotyped images and negative views need to be changed. And Asians also have an important responsibility here. I think they need to 'market' themselves better and be more 'up-front'.

Perhaps not, but the stereotypes and negative attitudes towards asian males don't make things easier.

In the 70's it was very difficult for asian male actors to get roles in Hollywood (and it still isn't easy). And if they did, they were usually portrayed as bad guys (or relegated to minor roles, because the studios felt that nobody would pay to see an asian good guy). Bruce Lee was one of those actors, and he got fed up and did some movies in the East (he also happened to have a white wife, Linda Lee). Only after his movies became a major international success, did Hollywood want him back.

I might be wrong (don't know much about her), but it could simply be a matter of taste. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with racism or xenophobia.
I sometimes hear speculative statements like this, and I wonder why some people (mostly blacks, it seems) almost take it for granted that a white woman's fantasy is to be ravished by many black men? Perhaps her fantasy is to be ravished by many WHITE men?

Similarly, you can't take it for granted that males always fantasizes about fucking a harem of blondes or white girls. Asian girls, for example, are quite popular among white men.

She didn't want to do scenes with blacks, but did it with an asian dude? If so, I wouldn't say she's xenophobic. If she did blacks but not asians, would you've said she was xenophobic then? I'm just asking.
Yes, blacks are an important part of American society because of the tight social integration, but it hasn't always been like this. American culture has helped to create the image of the 'cool' black man (although this is a broad generalization, because not all black men are 'cool'), but for the asian (or asian-american) man things have been the other way around. Many 'cool' black men are also successful men who (naturally) would attract people, including whites.
This is one of the widespread misconceptions about asians: That all who look asian are from Asia. There are many asians (Asian-Americans) in America who grew up in that country. They're accustomed to western culture and ideals, not eastern. The only thing that differentiates them from white or blacks is their skin color (their facial characteristics might also differ to a greater or lesser degree, but it depends on whether they're of 'mixed heritage' or not).
leglover1000
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 3:12PM
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 3:41PM
I believe the white women have already spoken on the issue, buddy...
I don't think anyone could state the case more succinctly...
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 4:17PM
Jewel didn't tell you to fuck off. Perhaps you should rethink her sentence structure.

Edited by - hardware on 5/26/2007 4:17:06 PM

guns&butter
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 9:06PM
You're assuming I don't know how it works but I do. It arbitrarily measures and assigns a number to something scientists are still baffled by. There is A LOT we do not know about the human brain. To me I.Q. tests are of little worth when gauging our overall individual thinking potential, nevermind entire populations. They don't reveal anything about the human condition other than their desire to know everything.
Well, it ain't all just one big myth. Lots of women think about sex and enjoy partaking in it. I'm talking about actual decision making. Way more often than not, non-physical traits are what keep a woman around.
Well, it seems that trend would have to be gradual, not deliberate, but really, how many Asian men aspire to be pornstars anyway?
What negative attitudes though? Outside a clash of culture and language, which occurs with all non-English speakers of all backgrounds, Asian men have a pretty favorable image in the U.S. if you ask me. There was a time when Asian men were characterized almost exactly like that of black men as lazy, rambunctious, subservient and fundamentally inferior. This was at a time when China was quite obviously more advanced than the U.S. and those black fighting men of old were defeating Europe's best generals and setting off revolt after revolt in the Caribbean.
She fucked a rapper off camera, while she was married to boot.
lol ....trust, I would not have said she's "outrageously xenophobic" for merely not fucking a black dude on film, and while that statement is meant to be speculative, I know her type way too well to take it back. Traditionally, for very certain intents and purposes, girls like that live off the looks and glances of black men, pervasively confident and socially empowered black men on top of that, but may be oblivious, if not reluctant to admit such a thing. From my experience, when a black guy in a cosmopolitan environment no less, says white girls are ugly or they would never have sex with one, I find that is a man deeply infatuated with white girls, more so than the average. I always advise black girls to be weary of these cowardly types. With standards higher than ever in an age of the most vigorous competition for men's attention, it reconfirms how biologically impossible it is not be attracted to them. Physically/psycho-sexually speaking, symmetry trumps everything. The hardline neo-racial crapola she may have learned as a kid or in the circles she keeps is no match for beauty and raw visceral attraction, ESPECIALLY when they're of the same culture/class.
I can't agree with that. It has always been like this, only what you see now is what was violently being suppressed not even a generation ago. Once the slave trade became exclusively associated with blacks, that was effectively the beginning of the end for state sanctioned slavery in the West. Had the Anglo-Saxons not tried to reinvent the wheel and cook up all these wild justifications for an essentially alien practice, we'd probably still have slavery today.

No kind of media machine *helped* create or establish what is really a unique, albeit superficial, facet of broader American culture. If anything, they promote and encourage certain images. It's highly influential but disposable culture, which may or may not be impressive. Song and Dance, a hallmark of anything resembling a culture, is where blacks are the most masterful. It's the same with the Jews and Hollywood. People foolishly believe wealth and erudition constitutes culture when that's really civic inheritance. The irony of blacks and Jews being the most maligned in the sphere of "White America", yet being arguably the most important to the culture, is telling. Think about it, outside of the smart/cynical/self-deprecating/crafty black and Jew humor we know and love, there's really only Carrot Top/toilet humor.

I'm always mindful of this when I'm constructing and reconstructing all my little theories but Asian men consistently confuse me in the scheme of things. I grew up around middle class Asians so I know the guy you're talking about but it would be remiss to ignore how uniformly that Eastern culture and that mild-manner-esque approach is amongst even third generation East Asians.
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 9:40PM
There is a lot of Russian girls that I know that just avoid black guys in general.
Creampie
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 10:52PM
Ok, she said "FUCK everyone", she didn't say "FUCK OFF everyone". But does it really change anything? Do you think -- as a forum moderator -- that that kind of tone goes hand in hand with the Forum Netiquette? If I said "FUCK you" instead of "FUCK everyone", would you've reacted in the same way? Or do different rules apply if you're a pornstar? I'm jusk asking.
 
Creampie
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Posted - May 26 2007 : 11:08PM
Responses from a few pornstars in this thread who do IR with blacks is no solid basis for generalization. Besides, it's more likely that the women who do IR with blacks onscreen respond to this thread than those who don't. In other words: You're basing your conclusions and generalizations on biased feedback. I also think you put way too much emphasis on how things are portrayed in the porn industry.

EDIT: BTW, if you read through the thread, you'll notice that there are a few women who've responded who don't have a taste or preference for blacks. Like I've said before, you can't take it for granted that white women have a preference for black men (it's just as absurd to think that all men prefer blondes, for example). In porn films perhaps, but we know that a lot of stuff in porn simply isn't true in real life.

Keep in mind that many of the women on this forum are pornstars or adult actresses, and having sex with a (new) guy -- black or white -- onscreen regularly is part of their job. Needless to say, women who're not in the porn business don't fuck guys in front of a video camera on a regular basis.

Edited by - Creampie on 5/26/2007 11:17:37 PM

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Posted - May 26 2007 : 11:31PM
Well, you're making an assumption that she means "fuck off everyone." I read her post as saying that one should fuck people regardless of the color of their skin.

And if she did mean "fuck off everyone" then she can come back in and say so.

Creampie
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 12:29AM
I'm talking specifically about IQ tests, not how our brain functions in general. Because it's true that we don't really know how the brain works, but we do know how a formal IQ test is structured, and we do know that if you score well on an IQ test, it tends to correlate well with your abstract or analytical thinking abilities. Do you think it's just coincidental that mathematicians and computer programmers (for example) have a higher average IQ than most people?
Of course I'm not denying that women fantasize about sex, but there are many fantasies that aren't realized in practice (for various reasons).
That's what I've been saying several times, so I'm not sure why you're telling me this?
If you mean Asian-Americans or Asians in the US (or western countries), then there aren't many I'd think. Yet it's quite telling that you virtually never see an asian (looking) man in an American porn movie (and there are quite many porn films being produced each year).
What language barrier? I'm talking about Asian-Americans or Asians who live in the US, not Asians who're being flown in from China to appear in an American porn film.
I'm afraid I strongly disagree with you there. But let me first ask you: Why exactly do you think so? (you don't need to mention academic progress, because we've already covered that topic).
When was that, exactly? One of the few lasting, positive perceptions of Asians is that they have a strong work ethic. But it's true that they were characterized as subservient, because they were made to behave subservient to their "white masters". They treated Asians as inferiors, just as the black slaves they'd brought home from Africa.

Many Americans today often forget that many Asians helped to build the infrastructure of this country back in the old west. Asians moved to America to start a new life (like so many Europeans did) and they worked hard, something they're known for to this day (this is again related to their academic progress: You need to work hard to succeed academically).

But it's true that they're still seen as subservient and somehow inferior to whites, even blacks in many cases.

Well, if she's fucked an Asian on camera and a black rapper off camera, then I don't think she deserves to be called a racist or xenophobe (unless she's said or done things which strongly imply that she feels other races are fundementally inferior, which is what racism is really about).
You're talking about what you term as 'tradition', but now we're talking about a specific person. But can you explain what you really mean by "girls like that live off the looks and glances of black men"? You did mention a lot of stuff, but it seemed to me like generalizations.
But how could blacks be seen as 'cool' or socially integrated when they were relegated to slavery work? (and treated as inferior human beings in general). What was the 'coolness' factor of being a slave? I'm not sure if we're on the same wavelength here?
Black culture has become an important part of American culture, I agree about that, but a culture has to be accepted and integrated over time. This is the same challenge that Asians (or Asian-Americans) face today. So I'm still not convinced that it's always been like that.
I think that mild-mannerism is more heavily influenced by the constant "don't think you're above us"-attitude that many whites (or western culture in general) express directly or indirectly towards Asians (or people of Asian descent). They 'have to' behave nicely to be accepted socially.
Creampie
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 12:39AM
I didn't read it that way at all. And if she really intended to say what you believe she said, then I think it would be a good idea to express that view in a different, clearer way. Because as it stands, it seems to me that her statement could easily be read the wrong way.
guns&butter
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 6:08AM
That's all we actually do know. The fact that great thinkers score high on them is all the purpose they serve.
Yeah, I meant in general ...
A clash of culture or language is really the only reason I could see an unfavorable opinion of them at this stage.
Usually easy to get along with, trustworthy, reliable, cool-mannered etc. I don't even know anyone with any really strong opinions about Asians to be honest though.
Well, wtf, the economy of antebellum America was built by black labor yet there's a consensus that they're the laziest people ever. Jim Crow shaped America as we know it so blacks being outlawed from the arts and sciences, thus any decent paying job, which was seen as ludicrous in the Mediterranean and the rest of the old world, gave them the opportunity to call them stupid. If you dig up the personal correspondence from the Barbary, Chinamen were widely regarded as lazy by whites. It was the simplest conclusion. Nobody ever said any of it made sense.
I never meant to get specific. I'm just matter of factly pointing out there is no conspiracy or deliberate attempt to exclude Asian men, notably because a very well-known xenophobe in that performer performed with one. I don't really see the need to elaborate any further on the 'girls like that' statement, considering it's such a classic case of over-compensation.
In the old south, even at the height of the Civil War, white youth considered it an honor to go to the black quarters and listen to the griots and the Blues singers. How does anybody become "Cool"?

I think you're missing the point entirely here though. Black culture is a misnomer because it's essentially American culture and what ever has stuck since the inception of this country never had to be consciously "integrated" or "accepted". The challenge Asians supposedly face couldn't be any more off the mark.

We definitely disagree here. I refuse to believe it's a reactionary bearing thrust upon them by an insidious majority in the western hemisphere. That just doesn't make any sense. The Chinese leaked knowledge out of the temples of India and within a few generations were taking the science of breath to newer heights and busting bricks with their heads. Remarkable shit like that and I hesitate to say "humbleness" of it all, coupled with whispers of Asian men being unsatisfactory mates, has always confused me. How whites feel about Asians has nothing to do with my confusion on this issue but I think it has clouded your judgment in many respects.
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 8:31AM
Emphasis on porn? I have lived in America all my life, minus the last year which I served overseas. White women love the Black cock. The only time they deny the Black man is when a white man in power tells them to. Nearly all white female racism in America can be directly attributed to a white male, or males who have influenced her. That is the sad, painful truth of the matter that some white men can never get over. Notice that I said "some". Not all, or even most.

You're going to need to come to grips with your own insecurities about yourself and your Asian lineage. Attacking Black people and pacifying yourself, as many white men do, by telling yourself that only "this kind" or "that kind" of white women is attracted to Black men will only lead to more disappointment. Because every time you come across an attractive white woman that does not conform to your ideal, your stereotypes will not be reinforced. This can be painful, I have seen it first hand...

You started this whole tangent by first stating that there were not enough Asian men in American porn. You then went on to denigrate white women who fuck Black men, and justified this act by saying that Asian men are intellectually superior to both Black and White men. You are trying to compensate for your own insecurities about your manhood by attacking members of other races. You are no different than the kooks over at Stormfront.org. At some point you must accept the fact that white men own the porn industry, and that Black men will always be the most popular male "attraction" in that circus. Otherwise you are doomed to bang your head against the wall and wallow in your own self pity...
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 8:56AM
The truth must hurt. A suggestion, re-read the 1st post & at least get a clue about the subject matter.
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 12:29AM
There's asian dudes with large members link http://geisham.blogspot.com/2006/12/asian-vs-caucasian-penis.html
it's just you don't see them get into porn. Just wait for china to become a true superpower, maybe not in your lifetime but you'll see a lot of interracial porn w/ asian men then.
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 1:03AM
How is this any less of a crude, stupid, racist comment than the one that DirtyDoug made above, and which was removed by Steph?
Knocko
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 4:01AM
i agree it is not any less stupid. it is just another idiotic sweeping generalization.....as i say it seems he has a thing for eroticizing stereotypes.....ridiculous in the real world.
 
Spectreman
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 5:19AM
I'll start first thing tomorrow morning. I have to be honest, though, Aishwarya Rai is looking like a pretty tall order, so you might have to cut me some slack.
There's a different version of that perspective everywhere you go. For example:
In Norway: "Swedish women love the Norwegian cock. The only time they deny the Norwegian man is when a Swedish man in power tells them to."
In Buffalo: "Rochesterian women love the Buffaloan cock. The only time they deny the Buffaloan man is when a Rochesterian man in power tells them to."
In any predominantly white locale: "White women love the White cock. The only time they deny the White man is when a white man in power tells them to."
At the Harrisburg Kennel Club: "Woof, woof, grrr. Snarl, woof, grrr, snarl...woof."
In an otherworldly cave complex: "Doozer women love the Fraggle cock. The only time they deny the Fraggle man is when a Doozer man in power tells them to."
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 11:11AM
this entire thread is full of stupid sweeping generalizations.
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 11:14AM
This thread reminds me of a question; does anyone know if there are black males who refuse to work with white women? I can't imagine of course but I still would like to know.
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 5:01PM
And I meant it FUCK EVERYONE who cares does it really matter??? I love seeing black men with white girls to me it's just hot. Watch it or not it's a huge market.
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 7:56PM
No, I would imagine not many asian, arab or indian males , were they in the industry, either would refuse to work with white woman, given the chance. Its not just black males that are attracted to white women, though IR is generalised in the US to be only about black and white people.
Slonik
Member

87 Posts
1/07
Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 12:59AM
JEWEL: When I see a porn board with more threads about brodhas then chicks then I do care and I don't like it. I mean I'm a blond guy but I don't just run around the adt starting topics like: "Did XXX ever done scene with a blond guy?", "XXX is a blond goy dodger!!!!", "Which pornstars dated or married a blond guy?", "I like porn with blond guys how about you?" etc.
Porn used to be about girls getting fucked. Guys that cared about guys in porn more then about girls had their own section called "Gay DVD Talk".
illmatic
Member

194 Posts
9/06
Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 1:32AM
I like bm/wf porn but I have to agree with Slonik. Some dudes just take it way overboard. I can't believe we actually have some dude in here boasting about how he values his penis size over intelligence. WOW! This isn't the worsst I've seen though. If you think this is bad, go read some other ir forums.
XXXfan78
Member

7 Posts
8/05
Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 3:32AM
IMO using interracial as a sellingpoint insults the consumers intelligence by trying to make it seem sensational and special to have a caucasian and black performer in a scene together. Like saying "this isn't normal, this isn't common, come watch the "freakshow"! Who the hell cares if one performer is black and the other white? As far as I'm concerned it's just two people fucking. If one of them happens to be black, white, asian, latin or green, so what? In a perfect world it shouldn't be an issue, right?
Furthermore I think it's a little bit hypocritical for female talent to claim they aren't racist but still refuse to work with afro-american males. By that logic if the industry indeed is predjudious, it's suddenly ok for them to reinforce it? I smell bullcrap and weak excuses. Obviously I can understand that certain female talent prefer to work with caucasian males and avoid IR work for career reasons whatever they might be. I can respect that but at least be honest about it when questioned..
And another thing a little OT. Isn't it peculiar that the pornindusty seems to have such a need to categorize movies by race? Latin, asian, black, IR and so forth. But still you never see a movie advertise the whole cast as white. Sensational stuff..Watch caucasians have sex! That would be something huh? The industry finally shooting itself in the foot..
Edited by - xxxfan78 on 6/1/2007 3:32:21 AM
Edited by - xxxfan78 on 6/1/2007 3:34:01 AM
Edited by - xxxfan78 on 6/1/2007 5:11:56 AM
T0201
Deactivated User

167 Posts
11/06
Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 4:21AM
Well said
Edited by - T0201 on 6/2/2007 3:32:04 AM
trivers77
Member

22 Posts
5/07
Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 12:02AM
Wow, this thread is insane.
Not all black men are attracted to white women, nor all white women attracted to black men. Okay, got that out of the way.
That said, beyond that, the attraction many black men have for white women and white women for black men is largely similar.
In American society, whites are the largest group,create what we see in entertainment, the media, etc. It's no suprise then, that white women are the "ideal" in our culture.(not saying that it's right or wrong).
Just like white men constantly see attractive white women in movies,magazines,on TV, etc. so do black men, and that attracts many of them. Added to that, American history has repeatedly emphasised that white women are off limits, adding to the "forbidden fruit" appeal.
On the flipside, black males, while seen widely as second-class citizens, thugs etc. are represented as being, nevertheless very "masculine" in the media, with imagies of muscular blacks being the norm in the world of sports, and even on the 6 oclock news. Even the ignorant, self-destructive imagery in many popular hip-hop songs and videos, still have a very masculine air about them.And masculinity is attractive to many women, even if only at their subconscious level. I'd say the conception of blacks being well-endowed is secondary to this.
Added to that, black men have been shown as "off limits" to white women for many years by society, and once again "forbidden fruit" has an undeniable appeal.
It has been said that white males are the main purchasers of interracial porn. That doesn't suprise me in the least. Just like many "manly", assertive men have fantasies of being dominated, many(not all) white males, who may dislike, fear, or even flat-out hate black men on one hand, may be turned on by thoughts of the threatening "black buck" ravishing the innocent white girl with their evil giant schlong.
I guess human beings are just kinky like that.

Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 2:20AM
And now it's just a little bit more insane . . . .
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 5:08AM
I'm sure not all black men - perhaps even pornstars - are not attracted to white women but to go as far as to not work with them? I mean I'm not into Asian women myself but if I were a pornstar and I had to work with Asian women I would have no problem doing so because I'm there to a job.
Edited by - Ramsey on 6/2/2007 1:59:23 PM
messhuga
Member

Stop the Swedes!!!!!
824 Posts
3/07
Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 8:55AM
Porn is a job,and performers have to be Professional about it.
Sadly a lot of Girls are not so Professional.
They draw the color line at every turn or come up with some lame excuse and all.
I'm sure Brian Pumper does not like Women,as much as he likes himself.But at least he agrees to work with them.
P.S. This is not an endorsement of Brian Pumper as a performer.I'm just saying that at least he's better than most of the Overrated female performers/dodgers out there.
They know themselves.
Slonik
Member

87 Posts
1/07
Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 12:07PM
trivers77: Well said mate.
tittysucker86
Deactivated User

florida
218 Posts
2/07
Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 3:07PM
How did this whole retarded topic start? Does this whole issue go back 23 years to when Mr. Drummond had to go to the office on a saturday, and Arnold caught willis in the shower with Kimberly??
tittysucker86
Deactivated User

florida
218 Posts
2/07
Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 4:16PM
some people think a white girl and a black guy is hot! like jewel said. is that racist? if porn companies keep blacks and whites separated, then that would be racist. so the folks on the racist soap-box are not happy with anything that would be done. any old excuse to complain. ...fyi: its 80s weekend on the local soft-rock station. there was some weird music in the 80s. I miss the 80s. SOmebody please roll back time and send me back to the eighties! I got some 80s booze to still drink, and 80s girls to still screw.
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