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| SuperGnu Member 6 Posts 4/11 |  Posted - Apr 25 2011 : 3:39PMMost females ive talked to who had big dick realy dont enjoy them all that much, the ones who had not experienced it was crazy about big dicks. And it is a well known fact that females cant measure a cock from sight alone, they always add a few inches.   [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 2 2011 : 8:03PM Length:  Girth:  This indicates that average length (about 50% of males) are in the 5.5" to 6.0" range. And the most common girth size (25% and in middle of bell curve) are in the 4.75" to 5.0" range) Thus the "average" (mean) penis size by this data is around 5.75" (L) x 4.75" (G) Edited by - seedfeeder on 5/2/2011 8:13:36 PM [Link] |
| celluloidferox Senior Member @EmperorCorndog 1438 Posts 1/10 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 12:45AM [Link] |
| wolvie667 Deactivated User 4467 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 2:32AM [Link] |
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| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 7:03AM I have watched to many pornos and always wanted just a little larger on my own member. But hey according to the polls I am doing just fine in the 7.5-7.75. Thanks for the poll [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 3:48PM [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 5:49PM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 6:54PM Edited by - seedfeeder on 5/3/2011 6:56:58 PM [Link] |
| His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 9:01PM [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 4 2011 : 9:49AM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 8 2011 : 6:12PM It's nice to have it out in the open with her, but it was fun being secretive about it also. [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 9 2011 : 3:18AM Is girth getting bigger? [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 9 2011 : 9:02AM EDIT: Also, the device not only stretches but adds tension as well (spring tension), which allows for you to see where you are at. Like you start at 800g of tension and work up to 2000g or more. This device pimps that it has the most tension of any of the extenders. Currently I'm at 2600g (2.6Kg) which is very close to the maximum which is 2800g I believe. The typical way most guys get girth though, is from jelqing, "uli" exercises and others. This is something you really want to research before you try it though, this stuff is hard core and while it works, you can get injuries-so you need to be educated first. There's no question to me now that one can permanently change his penis size, it just takes dedication. It's no different than deciding you want "6 pack abs" or to be able to bench 250lbs, etc. Edited by - seedfeeder on 5/9/2011 9:13:18 AM [Link] |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | Posted - May 17 2011 : 4:56PM [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 3:03AM [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 5:12AM I know that the body will stretch if you continually hang waits on it also. They have been doing that for many many many moons in all different medical practices. Lengthening all different types of body parts. I have read plenty about the medical ones but when you here about the gains from some people from gelqing to extenders it is hard to believe so I always still think it cant be done. BUT I am still going to try and get a device for some girth gains and maybe some length. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 4:45PM The device I am using is called "Male Edge". But I am also doing about 300 jelqs every morning in the shower. I want 6.5" of Girth and then I think more would be pushing it, so I'll stop. I know DOZENS of guys who have made huge gains, even in 4-6 months... But this is not easy stuff, most of these guys are nearly obsessed with PE (Penis Enlargement) and spend a lot of time on it. I would suggest that it is like body building. You can't go out and get all cut and toned overnight... it would take at least 6 months to go from average to very cut. Same with penis building, you can't just have it easy-so yes, the pills are bullshit in my opinion. There are things that increase bloodflow which means you could "Peak your penis", that is-you are not really enlarging it, you are simply cramming more blood into it so getting a harder, thus bigger erection... but the penis is still the same size, and you'll need the pills anytime to do it. Viagra is an example of this. And many of the pills are just fakes or perhaps even unhealthy. So the only thing I know that works is manual exercises (those you do with your hands) and some devices. No question the following things can work for increasing length and/or girth: Extender devices, clamping, hanging, manual stretching, and jelqing. You just got to be dedicated, that's all. And to the doubter above-even medical science acknowledges that extenders work, check wikipedia on penis enlargement. They use medical extenders to treat micro-penis (I think this is less than 3") as well as curved penis (to straighten it out). Back to mine: you can see it at maleedge.com. The cheap one is around $175 I think. And you wouldn't want to get the upgraded versions, the extender is the same in all 3 packages and the extender is what matters. I bought the pro kit and it came with a crappy DVD that really didn't tell me anything the written booklet couldn't have. I got 2 extra straps... but the straps are garbage anyway, ie buy the basic kit if you buy one. I've modified mine a lot. When you start putting 2000g+ tension on your penis, the tension on the device is also very high. I broke one, got a replacement and bought 2 3/4" hose clamps to reinforce where it is weak. I also modified it with a velcro strap instead of their elastic rubber straps, and it works excellent. You also have to wrap it right or you'll have pain. ie you gotta learn to wrap, usually with gauze, or a strip of a T-shirt perhaps, whatever works. You also have to wrap the base of the thing too once you get to high tension as if you don't it will kind of pinch your scrotum skin... Anyway it's good to have all this knowledge before you try this thing or you'll learn things the hard way. But I personally think extenders are the safest way to enlarge your penis, but may require the most dedication. I did research extenders quite a bit and found that none are perfect. But male edge is obviously the easiest to use (most of them have multiple rods, so putting on and taking off can be a big hassle. So if you make the modifications I'm talking about to it, well it's pretty damn close to perfect, and works for 3" all the way up to about 10 or 11". Anyway, if you got any more questions about it or PE, feel free to ask :) [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 4:53PM Edited by - seedfeeder on 5/18/2011 4:56:48 PM [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 7:15PM WOW........looks like something from the SAW movie. I will have plenty of questions but need to do some more research. I have chatted on the penisadd forum and asked those guys many questions. But when it comes to these extenders its a bit overwhelming between the marketing and facts from users. I will need to try and learn more about the cementing. I have never heard of this before. I am confused on how does it hold onto the head without causing a callous or irritated skin? I remember trying to pull on my member from the base of the head and could only hold on for so long and then it just slipped away. Could never get a good grip to hold for longer than 3-6 mins. Edited by - chrapladm on 5/18/2011 7:19:46 PM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 7:41PM But to get a good stretch (like I stretch more than 1.5" past my normal erect length) you do need it tight or it would slip. The straps they give you with the extender don't work near as well as velcro-velcro holds it very well for even 3 hours (which is a lot for one sitting). Also, some guys have even made their own extenders from basic parts at a hardware store. The only tough part I imagine would be the springs-the spring tension I believe is important. But traction is traction, as long as it's stretched (with no pain) you're on the way to gaining I think. What I would mainly advise is that you consider if you are willing to commit to at least 4 hours a day for 4-6 months. If not, do something else like hanging maybe (although I'd call that an advanced method-not for beginners like you or me). So make sure you understand what you are getting into. Be prepared to buy some baggy pants and sit around with your penis in a vice (although naked is much more comfortable with this thing). And keep in mind, you don't start right in with 4 hours.. you start with 1, and work your way up as your body gets used to this treatment. I would also not buy any extender that uses a tube noose. This is because there is large consensus about the velcro strap being the best. So you need some device that uses a strap-so it has slits, not holes like tube noose devices do. My recommendations would be male edge or size genetics if you don't like male edge. You can get each of these for about $165 or $175. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 7:48PM Once you have actual cell growth, you have cemented. I don't know lots about this but I know it's true. Back to the head question-the head is fine, keep in mind, the head is visible and not in the contraption, it's on the other side of it (on the right side of the noose you see in the picture. So if you think of your cock as a "head with a really long neck", the noose is right at the top of the neck, just under the head. On a 2 hour or more session, if your wrap isn't right, the tissue can be pretty fatigued, etc. But you don't get blisters or rough skin or really anything. The only injuries I've had were small scrapes when the device wasn't on right and it was on the side of the shaft, not the head. It was due to it coming loose under clothing from movements I was making. A little electrical tape solves that problem. As long as you talk to someone like me before you put it on and walk through everything-you should get zero injuries of any sort, including skin abrasions, etc. It's very safe, just a difficult commitment to make. [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 8:04PM Are you at a full erection when you use the device? I thought no........but yah.....just confused. BUT now I am anxious on getting one. Thanks again for the info and help [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 18 2011 : 8:19PM I put the base piece on, it's a ring with 2 arms that stick out. The arms have an inner part and an outer part/tube that telescopes (moves out and locks onto little arm). Then I put on the wrap. In my case I put on maybe 12" of thin gauze, then another layer of maybe 10" of thick gauze folded in half. The head piece (which is the black part the head/neck is attached to) is separate and not attached yet at this point. The noose that goes through head piece is loose, I slip the head through, cinch it down to like 60%. Then I try to get head swell-so perhaps get myself 60% erect. Now there's some blood in the head so it's engorged a bit. Now I cinch down the velcro straps til it's tight. The velcro goes in the middle of the wrap like you see. Now I adjust the outer tubes to maybe 4 notches up, and attach the head piece (which has my penis head in it) to the outer tubes, it clicks/locks into place. Now I read the tension, which is at the base in the clear area, there are read markers telling you the tension. And I get it up over 2000g by moving either the head piece out a notch or two, or the outer tubes out another notch or two.. until I like the tension. I might be partially erect for the first 5 minutes... but goes flaccid and is flaccid for 95% of the actual extending. I'll continue to adjust the tension for the next 10 minutes as the penis relaxes and the tension notches down... once I'm "Maxed out" at say 2400-2600g, I'll add a little electric tape to where the head piece and outer tubes connect-to avoid anything slipping at all (at high tension, it can slip loose, but not if you add tape). And ta da...I'm done for the next 90-120 minutes. Then I take it off, rest up, put on again 30 minutes later or when I have time and try to do 3-4 sessions like this per day... It's very simple, I do think size genetics is a bit more complicated, it looks prettier as it's all metal-but I hear the metal rods are cold on your dick and since the rods screw together, you can pinch your shaft. I like this methodology (male edge with telescoping tubes that are warm plastic) much better, but again-to make it perfect you need 2 small hose clamps and a roll of electrical tape. Also-instead of wrapping the base with gauze, I'm about to change it again tonight, and superglue a mouse pad to the base instead-a guy told me that is much better. So the only real places you can have any discomfort are at the noose (but usually this means wrap isn't right) and at the base (but usually this means it's not padded right). And both of these problems are correctable so you have minimal discomfort. When you first start... you'll like it, your brain basically tells you your penis is being played with, since it's being pulled and you'll likely be aroused. As time goes on your brain is more likely to say "oh.. not this again..." and soon you find that the device really cuts into your masturbation time.... I've never played with my penis so much without really playing with it lol. And you get a better stretch when you haven't gotten off for some reason... at least for me, so it's actually curbed masturbation for me out of necessity lol. [Link] |
| Anna Willosn Deactivated User 1 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 20 2011 : 5:09AM Edited by - redish on 5/20/2011 1:01:39 PM [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - May 20 2011 : 6:01AM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 20 2011 : 6:17AM [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 20 2011 : 7:50AM Oh yah does the tension just get increased by turning the "rods," or whatever they are called. They go from the base to the velcro. Bars or whatever they are made out of. Just wondering how they increase tension. ARe they spring loaded or something. [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 21 2011 : 12:50AM I think guys worry about their size just like women worry about breat size. Some guys think more than a handful is a waste, some guys like big melons. Sometimes they just like boobs in general. Women are the same way. But some of the ladies here have it right. Everyone is different. And it helps to know a woman's anatomy a bit to understand why. If the average penis is 6-7 inches fully erect and a woman's vaginal canal is an average 4 inches deep, you can figure the average guy is going to do the trick for the average woman. A super thick penis gives a stretching sensation that some women like and a long one will put pressure on the little "dip" in the vaginal floor just below the cervix. This "dip" is there to aid in holding semen next to the cervix for procreational purposes. BUT it also makes you feel like you're getting pounded when stimulated even when your not. I personally like the high side of 6 inches with an average girth. But if my partner knows how to move his ass, there's no problem no matter how big he is. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 24 2011 : 1:18AM The inner bars have outer bars that go over and lock into place. They are mobile, able to lock into 6 different lengths. This outer bar is what creates the tension in the inner bars' springs. Then the head piece (the one with the noose on the right) locks onto the outer bars. So 2 sections slide to increase length and one of those things also adds a spring tension. Tension maxes out at 2800g (well there's no spring anymore at that point as it has run out of room at the bottom). Other devices have metal rods that screw together and then a part that screws at the bottom to create the spring tension, I think it can move up to an inch of additional length or something. Edited by - seedfeeder on 5/24/2011 1:19:52 AM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 24 2011 : 1:24AM Course if you think 6.5" is "average length" (it's not) then you must think 5.5" is average girth (it's not, that's getting pretty big) but I really do think most girls want a girth between 5.25" and 5.75", the latter of which is an inch above average. Girls do like girth, I know that much :) And the boob-penis analogy is somewhat true, but has its differences. For example, we only have to worry about our junk in private settings-locker rooms, sexual encounters, etc. Women have to be exposed to some degree all the time-unless they run around in sweatshirts. On the other hand, a girl who has big tits can show them off if she wants and use them as bait.... we can't really do that, even if we have huge thick cocks... we can only create a hint of them or they'd throw nets on us.... the penis should be added to the protected classes of Title VII [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 25 2011 : 1:40AM Here's one... http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-human-vagina-and-other-female-sexual-parts.html What happens, is that when a woman climaxes the uterus rocks (and yes sometimes we can feel it)causing the cervix to rock with it. The muscles of the vagina also contract in rythm(we definately feel that and our partners do to). As her partner climaxes and ejaculates, semen is spurted against the cervix and pools in that little dip. The cervix actually dips into the pooled semen which helps in conception. The rythm of a male ejaculation and the rythm of the vaginal muscles along with the rythm of the cervix coincide. It happens at the same rate regardless of who you're with. There is no choice in that. It's something nature programed. You can't "un-sync" it.You're generalizing here. First of all, the countless articles and documentation I've read about human males are all over the charts, but the truth is, alot of them agree with what I stated. And I have not read anything anywhere that suggest that although there is an average girth for an erect penis, that length and girth coincide. Just because you have a long penis does not mean you have a thick one. I mean come on, we all know that. No two vaginas are the same either. Another generalization is that girls like girth. As I said, some women like a fat dick others like them long and skinny. We each have our individual tastes for different flavors, just like men do. I do not understand why so many men think they are so unique in this. Perfect example....Mr.Sexshopgrl's baby momma was steppin in my shit one day and made a crude comment about my husband's dick size. I told her his dick size was fine, there must be something wrong with her big, fat, sloppy pussy but I was sure a plastic surgeon could help her with that. Of course she was just being a bitch but the truth is just because she didnt like his size doesn't mean I can't. Then again, I dont lay there like a dead fuck either.Awwww......poor penis. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 25 2011 : 2:26AM But again, why debate it, find me one scientific sampling where a 3rd party was used to measure to back up your average and I'll yield to it being possible. I've researched the issue a lot and the only place I found such claims was on low class penis pill sites. Just as above, that survey is very widely respected-very few are in this field. Kinsey was debunked long ago on much of his data for example, yet he's one of the biggest names in the history of modern sexuality. Also-I would point out that if you really know this topic, you also know that some studies are done with different measurements. There are 2 main ones, one is Bone Pressed, the other is Non Bone Pressed. But even measuring from the side will add 1/2 an inch vs. measuring from the top... Are you sure you've really researched this? I know I'd tend to tread cautiously with a woman if the debate was over vaginal stuff-just as I've already learned humbly from you about "the dip". If you've found a study that says 7" is average, it is very likely a bone pressed study-which is not the same thing. The lifestyles one above is for non-bone pressed. This difference is quite important due the fat pad issue.... well anyway, I'll quit rambling and see what you come up with before I go on. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 25 2011 : 2:34AM But I sincerely would like to see all this data bout 6.5" or 7" being the average length. Let's take a close look at those studies, I'm very curious. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 25 2011 : 2:37AM [Link] |
Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - May 25 2011 : 12:35PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 25 2011 : 9:04PM I LOVE IT when men ask for a woman's opinion and then have a total shit fit when we actually give one that contradicts theirs. I'm going to try to address what you've stated, Seedfeeder, and what you've asked. If I miss anything,you'll get over it. First of all, I brought up girth in my second post because you're the one claiming that since "I must think" that the average size is 6-7 inches then "I must think" that girth is whatever the fuck you said it was. Where did you come to that conclusion? Where in my first post did I ever mention girth? Other than where I said some like em fat and some dont,I never said shit about girth. YOU said average is under 5 inches. If that's average than I guess that's what I like. And again to reiterate,some girls like it some dont. You say girls like girth like that's the final truth. Well let's just get one thing straight, I'm a girl, dude. I'm not too pig shit stupid to know what I like to fuck. Every other girl you fucked, is NOT me. SO yes, you were generaliziing and no, I do not like fat cocks. If the high side of 6 by just under 5 is what you consider long and skinny, that's what I like. And if we have to compare experience, I was an 80's and 90's party girl. Nuff said. Bone pressed or not bone pressed...whatever dude. The only method I've ever heard of measuring was from the tip of the head to the base of the shaft, from the top. I dont see what the difference would make considering some guys might "look" smaller but when riding them or grinding we actually "bone press" anyway. So if you press it with a ruler, it adds length. Of course it does, when we press against the pubic bone it adds length for us too. If women can feel it, why doesn't that extra inch count? Here's a wikki that talks about different studies and their findings. NONE of them agree with each other or me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size And here's an article that does. http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/penissize.htm An education blog, OMG! That one is lying to the youth of America. Do something, quick!! http://kipeducation.com/blog/?p=30 But you know something? I really dont give a fuck if you find fault in my sources and opinions or not. And I'm not going to sit here and waste my time dredging up links to articles to satisfy or impress you. Matter of fact I posted the shittiest ones I could find just to spite you because that's how I roll. I tried to be nice and informative about the female anatomy and my opinions. Quite frankly, I find it fascinating that it's all meant to work together like it does. Silly me, for thinking you would too. You're the one who's had to go and get all shitty and condescending about it now. Seems I'm not the only one in this thread. I was actually taking you seriously until you started that. I tried to be supportive, and then just like a woman, I go and change my mind. Kimmi Lixx and Gore Gore Girl are right,the question is pretty lame. I told you what I personally liked because that's what you asked me to do. You're also the one who decided to pick my opinions apart. And I'm not the one trying to stretch my dick to make it bigger now am I? Maybe if men would concentrate on technique and style when engaging in bed sports intead of worrying about how big they are or getting their nut.......oh wait, now I'm generalizing. See how that works? And finally, if you "really" know so much about "what pussies like," why are you even asking in the first place? I call bullshit. Edited by - SexShopGrl on 5/25/2011 9:11:12 PM Edited by - SexShopGrl on 5/25/2011 9:12:27 PM [Link] |
| Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08 | Posted - May 25 2011 : 10:38PM I think the issue that's been lost in this whole discussion is that a man's got to be happy with what they have. They've got to be able to look down at it and love what they see. I'm 4.5" in length and not particularly girthy, but you know what? I LOVE it! And so does my wife! I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks about it because it's not their concern. I think if I had any hang ups at all about my size, I wouldn't be very good in bed. I don't have any insecurities at all about my size, and I think I'm pretty damn good in the sack! To me, great sex is about caring deeply for your partner and wanting to make them feel good about themselves. It's also about having a shitload of confidence in your own abilities, and knowing deep down that you have what it takes to give pleasure to your partner. That's all. Worrying about your penis size is like someone gave you a Ferrari and you obsess about a scratch on the fender. Except in my case, God gave me a Mini Cooper. Who cares? Mini Coopers are a blast to drive and some women like them! [Link] |
| celluloidferox Senior Member @EmperorCorndog 1438 Posts 1/10 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 1:44AM @sexshopgrl, don't let him bother you. You don't need to get deactivated either. I enjoy your opinions and thoughts on here. You guys just settle down and let's discuss cock size like adults. I need all the info I can get. lol. [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 7:36AM But yes nobody get banned please. I do enjoy hearing from the opposite sex also and I will need to ask future questions on the extender so hopefully everyone can get along. Amazing what a turn this thread took. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 10:36AM Clearly some folks are illiterate. I appreciated the OPINION. And I asked her to BACK UP her claim that the average penis is 6"-7" with any study where a 3rd party measures the guy-because THAT is the bullshit in this thread. I appreciated the opinion and learned from her about the dip :) I'm sorry it's upsetting to you when someone calls you out on a bogus claim that you found you couldn't back up. Wikipedia actually agrees with me, and the study I showed data for is quoted there. Another says "between 5.5" and 6.3". You are the one flaming, not me. You are the one making it personal, not me. That's fine, as I said, some people get upset when they are called out on a claim they cannot back up. And claiming the average size is around 6.5" is an exaggeration. Exaggerators tend to exaggerate lots of things, so I simply figure you'd exaggerate girth claims too-it's logical. I'd also mention that you basically called me stupid on the dip issue. Maybe I am, maybe everyone knows about it except me. But no question is stupid. Lying about something is, and you claimed you had a bunch of studies-yet cannot produce one good one-nor does wikipedia support your claim. I didn't rise to your insult about the fact that I didn't know about the dip, and I won't rise to your being cornered tantrum now. Now back to the girth issue. Maybe you like really skinny penises, that's your business. But the fact remains that sex is mostly about friction. It is a safe statement to say "Guys like tight pussies" and just as safe to say "Women like thick cocks". And despite your tantrum, I still think both statements are true. I do appreciate your opinions though and that is clear. But hey, chill out and when you're wrong, learn from the other person and move on. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 10:40AM Your opinion is that girl don't necessarily care about girth. I disagree-I know of no girl that wants a pencil dick as she'd hardly feel it except at the cervix.... but I don't recall the shit fit, so do show where I did that. I did however call you out on your CLAIM that there is loads of data saying 6.5" and asked for PROOF. (again, no shit fit, just a request to back it up). So.... I love it when you ask a girl to back up her CLAIM and she throws a shit fit cuz she can't... [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 10:45AM Click to expand "I think that the average male is between 6" and 7". But that's not what she said.... she said the DATA said that. Cleary you don't understand the difference macko. I'd aleady backed up my claim with a well respected study by actual penis people (one of the largest condom manufacturers in the world), I simply asked her to back up her claim when she presented it and contradicted mine... Click to expand [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 10:49AM I agree, this thread was very interesting and had some good female input... and all of a sudden, someone comes in, ignores valid data I've presented and says "nope, that's not true, and there's lots of data to disprove that." Me asking to see the data is not me getting upset-it's a logical sequence of events in any debate. You claim there's data, then prove it, let's see the data. I still haven't seen any valid data, including on wikipedia. As wikipedia backs up what I said and lists the study I gave first if I recall. EDIT: and why would I get deactivated for asking someone to present data they claim they have. After all, she's the one flaming-so quit being silly please. Edited by - seedfeeder on 5/26/2011 10:51:08 AM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 11:16AM Well, that's what some doctors and researchers argue too. That mixed with the fact that the fat pad (the tissue in front of the pelvic bone) varies a lot. For example, my fat pad is about 1.25", which is very thick, yet I'm not overweight (5'11" and 180lbs). Some guys have it as thin as 1/2". So I'm hiding .75" more of my penis than they are. If you look around on PE (Penis Enlargement) forums... where guys actually devote hours of the day, and years of their life to PE, I find that most of them respect the BP (Bone Pressed) measurement more as it takes the fat pad variable out of the equation and truly measures the USABLE penis. Course those girls in the bang brothers porns measure from the butt hole.... so there are lots of methods lol. Personally, I care about what I (and she) can see, so I like NBP (Non-Bone Pressed) measurement. Plus, most people (even those that have looked at "countless studies" apparently don't know about NBP vs BP, so why complicate the issue for them I say. Oh and one more thing-I never said that 5" girth was below average, that is ABOVE average (which I already showed)... so if that what you (the girl yelling at me) like, then just as I stated, you too like thick cocks. Average is 4.8". Thin would be 4.5" or below. So see... women DO like to be able to "grab it" and pussies DO like to feel it. Perhaps I'll start a new thread and ask "What girth is TOO thick?". [Link] |
| Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 11:19AM A survey of 556 women between the ages of 19-49 asked participants to evaluate the importance of penis length and girth. 18% said penis length was very important, 22% said penis girth was very important. 57% said penis length was somewhat important, 53% said penis girth was somewhat important. 25% said penis length was unimportant, 25% said penis girth was unimportant survey [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 11:29AM Quoting the opinion of a blog written by a doctor and shrink which is NOT cited nor backed up is not "valid data" (The one place she found that agreed with her 6-7" on netdoctor) And this IS what wikipedia says (note these are STUDIES not the opinions of a doctor-I can get one doctor to agree with anything I could think of I bet, and having an M.D. does not make you an expert on something that requires a lot of data-so sorry, no dice on citing a blog with no citations as your evidence). Wikipedia: A study published in the September 1996 Journal of Urology concluded that average erect length was 12.9 cm (5.08 in) (measured by staff).[5] The purpose of the study was to “provide guidelines of penile length and circumference to assist in counseling patients considering penile augmentation.” Erection was pharmacologically induced in 80 physically normal American men (varying ethnicity, average age 54). It was concluded: “Neither patient age nor size of the flaccid penis accurately predicted erectile length.” A study published in the December 2000 International Journal of Impotence Research found that average erect penis length in 50 Jewish Caucasian males was 13.6 cm (5.35 in) (measured by staff).[6] Quote: "The aim of this prospective study was to identify clinical and engineering parameters of the flaccid penis for prediction of penile size during erection." Erection was pharmacologically induced in 50 Jewish Caucasian patients who had been evaluated for erectile dysfunction (average age 47±14y). Patients with penis abnormalities or whose ED could be attributed to more than one psychological origin were omitted from the study. A study conducted by LifeStyles Condoms found an average of 14.9 cm (5.9 in) with a standard deviation of 2.1 cm (0.8 in) (measured by staff).[7] The purpose of this study was to ensure properly sized condoms were available. A review published in the 2007 issue of BJU International showed the average erect penis length to be 14–16 cm (5.5–6.3 in) and girth to be 12–13 cm (4.7–5.1 in). The paper compared results of twelve studies conducted on different populations in several countries.[11] An Italian study of about 3,300 Italian men concluded that stretched length was measured on average to about 5 inches (13 cm). In addition, a correlation between weight and height and penis length was also found. However this was done only on 500 men with a small correlation value.[14] I'd say they DO agree, they all say the average penis size appears to be between 5" and 6" to put it in the LP (loud poster's) terms. NOT 6" to 7". However, the more respected studies (some of which are in this quote above) put the average penis at just what I said: a little shy of 6" (so like 5.8" or 5.9") [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 11:34AM I think 556 would be quite statistically valid though. And I found it interesting that MORE WOMEN said girth was very important than those who said length was. So clearly the majority of women care about girth to some degree-a safe statement or compromise based on data. [Link] |
| Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 11:58AM I already told you that my guy, at 5.25" circumference, was sometimes too big for me to comfortably handle. During my menses I use the "slender regular" size Tampax, which is about the size of my pinky finger (and I have TINY hands), and I am aware of it constantly. I often have to sit down carefully, because sitting abruptly jams the tampon against my vaginal walls in a painful way. I can even feel the cotton cord exiting my vaginal opening - and it's cord sized! When I go for my annual gyn exam, my lady doctor apologizes as she warns me that she is entering my vagina with two fingers. She is quite well aware that a woman can feel two fingers in her vagina very distinctly. Tolerating the speculum, especially after it is dilated, requires intentionally relaxing the pelvic floor, and my doctor is QUICK. She gets that thing in and out of there in less than a minute most of the time. I'm always amazed that it isn't as huge as a it feels, because I would swear that it was about to split me in two when it was in there. If I can feel a thick thread and the experience of a modest speculum stretching my vagina is extremely unpleasant, what makes you think girth would ever be important to me, other than to avoid potentially painful experiences? Simply answered. I think women can, and do, like slender penes. I think they also like thick ones, short ones, long ones, bent ones, straight ones, and every other ones that fall into the wide range of healthy male genitals. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 12:05PM My point is simply that one can use data to argue an issue, and they can also throw in an opinion. One is valid as objective evidence, the other is not-it's one data point and not enough to draw a conclusion about. And an opinion is not the same as data. And I thank you again for reiterating the difference to the folks here that don't know the difference. Data is referenced and usually includes statistical numbers, like "Standard Deviation" and so forth. The only data presented by the LP (Loud Poster) is that on wikipedia, which supports what I said. 5.25" is very good size girth, above average - so yes, you've answered my question. EDIT: Oh and the issue at hand is penis size obviously as it relates to sex. Talking about a stranger's fingers or cold metal objects really doesn't relate to the topic IMO. If you asked me, what size of a cold metal object would you like to insert your penis into....well, I'd say one that is a mile in diameter, so the bare minimum would be touching me. Quite irrelevant to how I feel about pussy size. Edited by - seedfeeder on 5/26/2011 12:07:53 PM [Link] |
| Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01 | Posted - May 26 2011 : 12:46PM 5.25" is just a breath above average, according to the charts you posted. (4.75 - 5.00 was average, 5.00 - 5.25 was the next range) If a quarter of an inch is the difference between average and "pretty big", as you stated, then I'm fairly certain that there is are days when his tumescence is below average (pencil dicked) and other days when he's King Dong. My doctor uses disposable plastic speculums, which are kept in a warming drawer. I've been seeing her for more than a decade, she is far from a stranger. She is someone I am so comfortable with that I have no problem sharing my most intimate concerns and issues with her, without prevarication. When my daughter came of age and became sexually active, I took her to my doctor, this much do I trust and recommend her, I put my child into her hands. She is gentle, caring, considerate, and every good thing a doctor should be. She also has a sense of humor, and was not shy about discussing her own porn viewing when I was a performer, and we swapped titles a couple times. She kept me clean and safe through 15 years of adult entertainment. I literally trust her with my life. You don't address the reported sensitivity of my vagina. Other than to dismiss it by saying that objects and fingers don't count because the topic is penis size related to sex. By giving you examples of non-penis objects that vary in size from very small to modestly sized but designed to specifically open the vaginal canal I am introducing you to the concept that my vagina can discern the difference between large and small, stretched and not stretched, and painful and non-painful. I do this because you have already rejected my previous anecdotal statement that I have enjoyed everything from a clinical micropenis to a ginormous porn cock, and likewise have also not enjoyed everything from a clinical micropenis to a ginormous porn cock. Thus, reinforcing my personal opinion that penis size does not matter at all relative to sexual enjoyment. [Link] |
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