Working for Max Hardcore... (page 4)

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Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Aug 13 2010 : 4:15PM I'm also curious to know if you think that Brandon Iron is a mediocre pornographer as well. He distributes through JM Productions too. I like his movies, as well as several other series' carried by JMP. Click to expand One day, I hope to be mediocre. One fine day. Free Max. [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 3:36AM ^You'd probably be safer that way. Like someone once said, "In the republic of mediocrity, genius is dangerous." [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 4:04AM Brandon Iron wrote: One day, I hope to be mediocre. One fine day. Free Max. Click to expand Brandon is one funny fucker. [Link]
Schmse Senior Member I'm not here, this isn't happening! 2571 Posts 6/04	Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 9:00AM Mr. John "I'm just here to blow a load" Dough once farted in Lisa Marie's face, while she was about to rim him. She immediately ran out of the room, and the scene was done. Quite creepy! It was a Meatholes scene, so that's why he and the director laughed about it.... [Link]

elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 9:10AM Crazy Chester ended up hanging himself, did he not? [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 6:37PM realtip wrote: The name didn't sound familiar. So I did a Google search for her, and went to her Wikipedia page. When I read that she is known for coining terms like "merm" and "ferm," it all started coming back to me. I remembered reading something in college with those same exact terms. Incidentally, I'm a packrat who has kept all my old reading assignments from all college because I find that they still make for good research material. As it so happens, I actually still have the article she wrote, "The Five Sexes: Why Male and Female Are Not Enough," in my collection of old papers. So I actually have read some of her writings. I just didn't remember, and I haven't read it since college. Click to expand That's probably her most famous piece of writing, but not really relevant to what you were talking about. Myths of Gender: Biological Theories About Women and Men is what I had in mind when I posted her name. It's really worth a read, and deals directly with gender, hormones, sexuality etc. The Five Sexes is more to do with biological sex at birth. Anyway, end of . Just wanted to respond to your request for reading materials. [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 9:29PM ^I was thinking that this was going to be another article that I could quickly read. But as you know, it's a book. I doubt that I'll read it. But I have read plenty of other research on the same topic. [Link]
bobbyd3 New Member 1 Posts 8/10	Posted - Aug 15 2010 : 3:52AM BlackSix wrote: leatherface wrote: I don't understand why Max is so hated and Rocco for example is a sort of hero. Click to expand Because Rocco is good at what he does, whereas Max makes shitty porn. Click to expand Wow.,Blacksix, as a new member,,, I'm reading my first subject that i search,,,and already I see that a senior memeber is disrespecting a actor/director !!!!! I swear I just read in the rules/proper use section of the site that we should be respectful of everyone.Yet here you are obviously hating on a person who does things differently than the style you prefer. Should I assume your more of a playboy type dvd watcher ? should I just say you are a shitty person for watching mainstream/hotel rental crap with no edge !?!?!? I think i smell a hypoctite ! And I already stinks in here ! [Link]
vanessadelriolover Member I woke up today and everything is still everything! 400 Posts 1/09	Posted - Aug 15 2010 : 4:35AM i've been re-reading this thread and i remember it from when i first joined "Talk." Hey Black Six you really dislike Max and i'm wondering if this is based on some unappealing personal interaction you've had with this guy or if a close friend of yours crossed paths with him and has borne witness to his "animal-like" (other poster's words) behavior? i'm just curious because you've been all over the guy (maybe for good reasons besides his movies & what some stars have said regarding working with him). i'm not sure its the coolest thing to malign fans of his work or girls who work with him as well especially if its coming from your own deep dislike of the guy? Edited by - vanessadelriolover on 8/16/2010 4:23:25 AM [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 3:43AM There's no problem with criticizing the quality of a director's work. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan of most of JJs videos either, I haven't seen the sky fall when I did that either. Max is a big boy and I'm sure the least of his worries is that someone on the web thinks he makes crappy porn. Everything I've said about Max's business practices with performers has been sourced numerous times in the various Max threads, one can search them out or just google it themselves. Max's own letters from prison refer to his drinking problem, it's good that he says he's gotten clean in prison, I wish him luck with that after he gets out. Honestly I'm tired of the whole subject but when I see the old 'they're all consensual adults' argument come up, which I usually agree with, I feel it's only fair to point out that in Max's case it may not always be true. To me, the unwillingess of so many porn consumers to even contemplate concern about the treatment of performers speaks volumes. Finally, if you think I have a hate-on for Max, you should look elsewhere on here where others advocate him being beaten by Samoans, tied up and violently pegged, gang-raped in prison, etc. Edited by - BlackSix on 8/16/2010 3:52:15 AM [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 3:58AM BlackSix wrote: Honestly I'm tired of the whole subject but when I see the old 'they're all consensual adults' argument come up, which I usually agree with, I feel it's only fair to point out that in Max's case it may not always be true. To me, the unwillingess of so many porn consumers to even contemplate concern about the treatment of performers speaks volumes. Click to expand It's not that I have no concern for the treatment of performers. I expect them to have more concern for themselves than I'm supposed to have for them 10 years after the fact when all I can do is wag my finger at Max and say "You mean old man you!". There is this thing you'll learn if you're ever alone in the world. And that is that if you don't care about yourself, you can't expect anyone else to. And precious few of these ladies have stepped forward to beg us to carry this argument on every day. Mostly, we just get random people who apparently assume these women want them to be their knights in shining armor. Which I guess is awfully cute but probably completely pointless and will no doubt completely ruin all porn if they keep it up. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/16/2010 4:13:22 AM [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 4:10AM ^+1 Excellent post. Other than that, I'm also in agreement with most of what BlackSix wrote in his last post. [Link]
vanessadelriolover Member I woke up today and everything is still everything! 400 Posts 1/09	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 4:45AM hey B6 I'm definitely with you here and agree with you wholeheartedly! BlackSix wrote: To me, the unwillingess of so many porn consumers to even contemplate concern about the treatment of performers speaks volumes. Edited by - BlackSix on 8/16/2010 3:52:15 AM Click to expand in addition, i am not a fan of the disparaging/superior tone i see a lot folks employ in here when referring to any number of different ladies. we derive alot of pleasure from their work as fans and they deserve our respect if for no other reason than that. its also obvious to me that there is plenty of "electronic paper" or a significant electronic paper trail of MAX's shitty deals and goings on. If i were to base my opinion about the kind of person MAX is based on this data (mostly from detractors) i'd say he is a "inhuman, callous, money-grubbing shithead" and deserves what he got. for example i remember a LUKE FORD rant basically blaming him for the death of a young woman that was from up here in the PNW (Anastasia Blue). he claims she died of a broken heart largely due to MAX and his ill-treatment of her on screen. but what if his "attitude" is all a bunch of PR and part of a persona he created that ultimately turned against him. also i seem to remember interviews with ladies like Kitty Yung and Jade Marcela where they had nothing but good things to say about him. And what about his regular folks like China Doll or Catalina and any of the folks from the 1990s who have worked with him many times over? finally, is he the only "shithead" who treats talent like scum, underpays the girls and is dishonest? this is why i asked if you were actually in the biz and had direct contact with him because it seems that the industry has plenty of folk who might be worse than MAX but not as flamboyant (and thus not easy targets). finally don't actresses who are into this "humiliation-domination" porn go on to work with others who do the EXACT SAME THING (JM productions or benjamin bratt for example...gagging insulting language, utter humiliation and de-humanization etc.)? And isn't this urination thing a fairly common porn practice in Europe as is fisting etc....i'm pretty sure he didn't invent that stuff. so that was my question for you, i like your posts and this is not an attack, i just was hoping for clarification and an inside scoop beyond postings, internet stuff and what we can all get through our own sleuthing. you seem to have thought about this a great deal and this reflection seems to have made you very anti-MAX. i was just wandering if there was something you know about that we don't all have access to because your feelings would be even more understandable! [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 4:55AM I'm not a fan of JM productions, Khan Tusion (although I did like some of the Hellfire Sex videos), John Bone, Rob Black, Bruce Seven and others either but Max is the one that people return to again and again on forums. He's obviously become something of a boogeyman in American porn. I think somewhere along the line he realized that if he didn't push things as far as he could with the pissing, vomiting, speculums, etc he would have disappeared as he's never been an exactly dynamite performer. [Link]

elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 9:18AM The late Bruce Seven was IMO much better than JMP or Max Hardcore. [Link]
Perverted_Jewish_Guy Deactivated User 207 Posts 4/10	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 1:42PM BlackSix wrote: Perverted_Jewish_Guy wrote: This is America. Click to expand Oh please. 'In America' people also have the right to criticize others. I'm not defending him being put in jail on obscenity, but there is more than enough reason to conclude he's a scumbag. Just because I like porn doesn't mean I have to excuse scumbags, their poor business practices and their shitty porn. Edited by - BlackSix on 8/12/2010 11:19:27 PM Click to expand Yeah, I meant defending him in the legal sense. I agree his material is garbage though. I just don't see how people can get into vomiting and pissing on girls. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 5:25PM elgringoviejo58 wrote: The late Bruce Seven was IMO much better than JMP or Max Hardcore. Click to expand I know he has his fans but I don't care for his pornography and in interviews he comes across as a very unpleasant. Certainly you never hear anything about him stepping over a performers limits though. Edited by - BlackSix on 8/16/2010 5:26:17 PM [Link]
vanessadelriolover Member I woke up today and everything is still everything! 400 Posts 1/09	Posted - Aug 17 2010 : 4:51AM B6 I'm with you and PJG on the vomiting, urination bit. Doesn't work for me anymore than something like pooping on someone during sex. Nothing against anyone into any of the three, I certainly have my own kinks and the defecation crowd might think mine are fairly strange so to each his own. Regarding in person meetings, I spoke with MAX briefly at the 2005 AVN because I was inquiring about his good stuff...pre-hospital instruments, urination, vomit (which B6 i believe you correctly identified as his way to stay relevant and cutting edge when everyone else did what he did in the 1990s and probably better). For example, i liked the Hitchhiker series and others he actually made love to a woman before jumping into the probing etc. and there was dialogue albiet corny, but what are you gonna do....its low-budget porn right? He indicated that he didn't control the masters to those titles, something about Zane keeping them from him & he was a bit tense around this topic....but nothing outlandish or "Max Hardcore-ish" per his image. Anyway, dude was cordial, sober and very business like....he was with Catalina and she and MAX genuinely seemed to get along...wasn't a forced act. He wasn't as nice or as smart and self-aware as Ed Powers who I spoke with for over 30 minutes, but he didn't come across as a jerk. He came across as into his "image" with the bermuda shorts and the hat and being "hardcore" etc. I just think that with the multiplication of electronic media-forms and content the more we should be aware of manipulative constructions passed of as "genuine personalities" in everything from political candidates, polemic radio talk show hosts, to hip-hop artists, to so called ceo-philanthropists etc. To me it seems all about "market segment" and MAX has to do the proverbial "monkey organ grinder" bit to play up to his audience like a WWE guy. There is a REM song that addresses this but i can't seem to remember the exact lyric at this time. Anyway, B6, PJG nice thoughts on an interesting topic! PJG, hope you stick around and enjoy the forum for a long while, i've been "official" for over a year and its a cool place to hang out with other fans with the added benefit of talent & producer/director/distributors/lawyers providing a real-world perspective! Edited by - vanessadelriolover on 8/17/2010 4:56:48 AM [Link]
Karloff Deactivated User 319 Posts 7/10	Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 9:43AM I never liked his stuff mainly because there was zero tease. Just his face, like an Ed Powers flick. [Link]
Guam Member 613 Posts 2/07	Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 11:51PM I'll never understand why things like this are okay and Max is evil. http://www.hotmovies.com/video/175093/Crisis/ Edited by - guam on 9/6/2010 11:53:49 PM [Link]
Mr. Sausage Deactivated User 330 Posts 11/06	Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 1:15AM BlackSix wrote: leatherface wrote: I don't understand why Max is so hated and Rocco for example is a sort of hero. Click to expand Rocco isn't a hero. Confirmed: Rocco has herpes and so does his wife. He has AIDS last time I looked around the net. He's probably a homo who hates females. That's why he treats them the way he does. Remember, Jim McGreevey had a wife and children. (What a cover.) He is not very good at what he does. Rocco was friendly with a porn collector (gay) who died of AIDS around 1996. What do you think they were doing together? Wink, wink... Guam wrote: I'll never understand why things like this are okay and Max is evil. http://www.hotmovies.com/video/175093/Crisis/ Click to expand Because freedom says so, also a signed contract and someone was paid. I don't like flogging videos. It used to until some people over stepped their bounds and did unconstitutional things. Max shouldn't have gone to prison. Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 9/7/2010 1:16:29 AM Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 9/7/2010 1:18:40 AM [Link]
Breeze Member One Smokin Hot Chic 532 Posts 11/08	Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 2:01AM I personally know two girls who have had good experiences working for Max Hardcore. I can see how new girls to the biz have a hard time with it. I can also see how new girls to the biz shouldn't even be in the biz. Really, give me a break, if you are an experienced adult film actress doing a scene with Max Hardcore you should know what to expect. But hey, ass to mouth is "cool." [Link]
GoodCharles Member 62 Posts 8/10	Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 6:21AM http://youtu.be/c8gY6W8g4Ks Well Neesa claims that she was raped by Max Hardcore and that she filed a police report. She claims, though I don't know here source, that 12 separate police reports have been filed against him. Their is documentary for British television called Hardcore where the filmmaker claims that he has video evidence that Max Hardcore raped Felicity. http://www.thefword.org.uk/reviews/2001/04/hardcore [Link]
Perverted_Jewish_Guy Deactivated User 207 Posts 4/10	Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 3:24PM I call bullshit on the rape claims. Seriously though, I can't believe nobody is going to challenge these "offensive" charges. This is one the most unconstitutional cases I've ever heard of. These girls know what they're getting themselves into. End of story. It's funny how they make a big deal out of sexual fetishes like this that use legal consenting adults but somehow they find it less offensive with the UFC featuring people dangerously beating the crap out of each other on live television. If anything, Dana White deserves to be jailed before Max Hardcore if they're going to play this stupid "offensive" game. [Link]

Stalag Deactivated User 476 Posts 1/10	Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 5:02PM Perverted_Jewish_Guy wrote: I call bullshit on the rape claims. Seriously though, I can't believe nobody is going to challenge these "offensive" charges. This is one the most unconstitutional cases I've ever heard of. These girls know what they're getting themselves into. End of story. It's funny how they make a big deal out of sexual fetishes like this that use legal consenting adults but somehow they find it less offensive with the UFC featuring people dangerously beating the crap out of each other on live television. If anything, Dana White deserves to be jailed before Max Hardcore if they're going to play this stupid "offensive" game. Click to expand A classic cowardly rapist rant. [Link]
GoodCharles Member 62 Posts 8/10	Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 10:41PM Perverted_Jewish_Guy wrote: I call bullshit on the rape claims. Seriously though, I can't believe nobody is going to challenge these "offensive" charges. This is one the most unconstitutional cases I've ever heard of. These girls know what they're getting themselves into. End of story. It's funny how they make a big deal out of sexual fetishes like this that use legal consenting adults but somehow they find it less offensive with the UFC featuring people dangerously beating the crap out of each other on live television. If anything, Dana White deserves to be jailed before Max Hardcore if they're going to play this stupid "offensive" game. Click to expand I don't think that you can honestly say that you know for certain that Max's girls knew what they were getting into. A lot of them were little girls. Isn't his mansion in the middle of nowhere? Yeah, whats that about. Yeah, there are all these liberals who think they are smart that see's Max's imprisonment as a blow to free speech. But you know sometimes liberals can be utter idiots, they don't get it. [Link]
StillHope Deactivated User "You didn't say Car Ram Rod" 149 Posts 2/06	Posted - Sep 8 2010 : 11:24AM Since Neesa is back posting on youtube in defense of Neesa... Anyone know where to get the Euro Edition of her Extreme Teens 3? [Link]
peppe Deactivated User 17 Posts 3/10	Posted - Sep 8 2010 : 1:11PM DUDE .... it's just PORN [Link]
Mr. Sausage Deactivated User 330 Posts 11/06	Posted - Sep 8 2010 : 2:40PM GoodCharles wrote: I don't think that you can honestly say that you know for certain that Max's girls knew what they were getting into. A lot of them were little girls. Isn't his mansion in the middle of nowhere? Click to expand They weren't "little girls." They did know what they were getting themselves into. If not they shouldn't be in porn. His mansion is where he wants it to be. My mansion would be in the middle of nowhere. I agree your statement about liberals. It was an unconstitutional act to imprison Max. His rights were violated. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 3:15AM Mr. Sausage wrote: Rocco isn't a hero. Confirmed: Rocco has herpes and so does his wife. He has AIDS last time I looked around the net. He's probably a homo who hates females. That's why he treats them the way he does. Remember, Jim McGreevey had a wife and children. (What a cover.) He is not very good at what he does. Rocco was friendly with a porn collector (gay) who died of AIDS around 1996. What do you think they were doing together? Wink, wink... Click to expand You're a class act. [Link]
GoodCharles Member 62 Posts 8/10	Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 4:44AM It was an unconstitutional act to imprison Max. His rights were violated. Click to expand They might not have used the appropriate set of laws to nail the guy. But only because "obscenity" is such a vague term. They did know what they were getting themselves into. If not they shouldn't be in porn. Click to expand I think your saying that if they don't have the brains to see that Max is over their head then doing porn in general is going to be over their head. I agree. Most girls in porn are not ready for Max and most girl avoid Max. But if they didn't know what they were getting into the fact that shouldn't be in porn is irrelevant. Max has a lot of gals you wont see in any other vids. [Link]
Mr. Sausage Deactivated User 330 Posts 11/06	Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 1:41PM GoodCharles wrote: They might not have used the appropriate set of laws to nail the guy. But only because "obscenity" is such a vague term. Click to expand It wasn't just that. But all the girls are legal and he didn't break any laws. BlackSix You're a class act. Click to expand I sure am. ;) [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 4:29PM Mr. Sausage wrote: Rocco isn't a hero. Confirmed: Rocco has herpes and so does his wife. Click to expand By most accounts (even people within the biz), the vast majority of porn performers have herpes. What's your point? He has AIDS last time I looked around the net. Click to expand Uh-huh. That's why he's still performing all the time, right? Not only does he not have AIDS, but he doesn't even have HIV, otherwise his AIM test would keep him from getting any performers to agree to work with him. (You do know that AIDS and HIV aren't the same thing, right? Cuz it kinda sounded like you don't). Next time, when looking for facts it might do well to do more than just 'look around the net'. He's probably a homo who hates females. That's why he treats them the way he does. Click to expand I'm not sure I can speak to how he does or doesn't treat females, but in no way does one's sexual orientation have a causal effect on one's treatment of women. Rocco was friendly with a porn collector (gay) who died of AIDS around 1996. What do you think they were doing together? Wink, wink... Click to expand Are you saying that having a gay friend, or a friend with AIDS, means that you're having sex with them? They may have been having sex, I really can't say. But I don't see what this has to do with anything. Again, as stated above, Rocco most certainly does not have HIV, otherwise all the performers you see fucking him in his movies wouldn't be doing so. Now, how about you clean your act up? No part of that post was acceptable as decent forum etiquette. Thank you. [Link]
Perverted_Jewish_Guy Deactivated User 207 Posts 4/10	Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 4:30PM Mr. Sausage wrote: GoodCharles wrote: They might not have used the appropriate set of laws to nail the guy. But only because "obscenity" is such a vague term. Click to expand It wasn't just that. But all the girls are legal and he didn't break any laws. Click to expand True, you idiots can talk all you want but there was nothing illegal about what he did. I already talked about this but I'm sure you all know what the UFC is. It's a fighting league for Mixed Martial Arts fighters who beat the crap out of each other on live television. Now this thing is really dangerous. You're allowed to choke people out until they tap out. I'm not kidding on that either. And yes, it's real. It's not like WWE wrestling. The fact that Max is in jail but nothing is being done about the UFC is just confusing to me considering they're the ones who put up real dangerous acts. [Link]

Mr. Sausage Deactivated User 330 Posts 11/06	Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 1:56PM killbillvol69 wrote: No part of that post was acceptable as decent forum etiquette. Click to expand According to liberals who hate freedom of speech. At least I'm honest and I don't try to take away someone's right to say what they want. [Link]
Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99	Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 4:05PM You have no rights at this privately owned business. [Link]
StillHope Deactivated User "You didn't say Car Ram Rod" 149 Posts 2/06	Posted - Sep 11 2010 : 1:31PM lol, Steph has few words but they carry so much weight. I watched Neesa's YouTube video and while I don't doubt she was told to do things on the spot that weren't aforementioned, I wouldn't call it "rape" as she does. According to the documentary "9to5: Days in Porn" a lot of girls aren't told things up front...sometimes they aren't even told the title of the movie they are shooting for. (As shown in Extreme Violations) ...BUT.... She swallowed piss 4 or 5 times and even let him piss on her face after the pop shot and showed no signs of distress. Allison Kilgore stated on LukeFord that she would not under any circumstances let Max pee on her so they used the old yellow water with a tube trick. Bottom line...I am sure Neesa got "hosed" no pun intended and ended up doing things she didn't really like doing...but I do not believe she was raped. [Link]
map47 Member 92 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 11 2010 : 2:40PM darklord wrote: BlackSix wrote: darklord wrote: Now I just hope that some of my Favorites Like Brianna Love...Don't Fall into the Max Trap. Click to expand The only way Brianna Love could end up in a Max film is if she sticks around too long, like 20+ years, and develops a drug problem... Click to expand Well you would only hope. Sometimes girls you wouldn't expect to do a max film does one. I.E. Sativa Rose. Now she was surprise for sure. I remember her earlier vids and she looked like she hated getting a facial, but she sure did take Max's Piss well. LOL Click to expand [Link]
map47 Member 92 Posts 1/09	Posted - Sep 11 2010 : 2:49PM BlackSix wrote: leatherface wrote: I don't understand why Max is so hated and Rocco for example is a sort of hero. Click to expand Because Rocco is good at what he does, whereas Max makes shitty porn. Click to expand hi, i thought Rocco was fine in the past but he seems to be into the choking and spitting,which i find pointless and not sexual at all.but to each their own.map47 [Link]
ZeroCool007 Senior Member I'm going to stab you in the throat with a spork!!! 1048 Posts 12/06	Posted - Sep 12 2010 : 4:48PM wow there's a lot of deactivated users on this thread...My own opinion of MH is that while I'm surprised and a bit turned off at some of his antics, there's also been some hot scenes that I've watched...the two actresses that I enjoyed watching perform were Catalina and Melody Love...could have done withouth the vomit stuff though... [Link]
Porn_Freedom Member 12 Posts 3/10	Posted - Sep 12 2010 : 5:12PM I remember seeing a BTS for Max Hardcore once, after the shoot was done the girl said, "Okay I ready to get fucked now." Max is a pathetic male performer (although I do like watching his videos). He is old and slow, and Max frequently gets out of breath. But most noticeable of Max's attributes is compared to the rest of the porn world he has a small penis, and he'll never be able to truly stretch those girls the way performers like Voodoo, Mark Ashley, Lex, Richard Mann, Mandingo, Diesel, Everhard, ect... can. Max makes up for this smallness by slapping around and pissing on the girls (kinda cool). So Richard Mann can make the girls really scream by slamming their cervix while Max takes a leak on the girl for 30 seconds. It no comparison, what Max does is gentle compared to today's monster cocks. When you watch brief clips of Max it seem brutal, but when you watch the entire scene (Euro version) Max's action are slow and pathetic. [Link]
zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10	Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 4:44AM Like a lot of guys I rented a few Max movies in the early days just to check out a few for shock value and to see what the hubbub was about. I found Max incredibly obnoxious and irritating, and the movies were not erotic at all not like kink.com stuff. Definitely not jack off material unless you get off on abuse. I never rented anymore of his movies. I think the last one I saw was the one with Lelani Lei? Anyway that being said I thought he had the right to make that crap if he wanted to and that the girls obviously knew what they were getting into and were probably well paid. After Max had done a few titles he had a rep so its incredibly hard to believe that even girls new to the biz didn't know what he was about? And they had to know he paid extra for a reason. I think a lot of girls complained about Max after shooting with him to try to distance themselves and change their image after seeing how other girls reacted and to try to get more mainstream porn work or even feature film work. One thing for sure they never complained about his checks bouncing like some other producers. Regardless of how people feel about Max it doesn't matter now. I think he went bankrupt from legal fees and fines and he's probably getting used and abused in prison like he did those girls. He's probably doing hard rough anal scenes and getting pissed on right now. Edited by - zambi on 9/13/2010 4:46:08 AM [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 7:14AM NM Edited by - randomprecision on 9/13/2010 7:14:28 AM [Link]
heh8me Deactivated User 47 Posts 7/10	Posted - Sep 15 2010 : 3:40AM zambi wrote: Like a lot of guys I rented a few Max movies in the early days just to check out a few for shock value and to see what the hubbub was about. I found Max incredibly obnoxious and irritating, and the movies were not erotic at all not like kink.com stuff. Definitely not jack off material unless you get off on abuse. I never rented anymore of his movies. I think the last one I saw was the one with Lelani Lei? Anyway that being said I thought he had the right to make that crap if he wanted to and that the girls obviously knew what they were getting into and were probably well paid. After Max had done a few titles he had a rep so its incredibly hard to believe that even girls new to the biz didn't know what he was about? And they had to know he paid extra for a reason. I think a lot of girls complained about Max after shooting with him to try to distance themselves and change their image after seeing how other girls reacted and to try to get more mainstream porn work or even feature film work. One thing for sure they never complained about his checks bouncing like some other producers. Regardless of how people feel about Max it doesn't matter now. I think he went bankrupt from legal fees and fines and he's probably getting used and abused in prison like he did those girls. He's probably doing hard rough anal scenes and getting pissed on right now. Edited by - zambi on 9/13/2010 4:46:08 AM Click to expand I think it's funny how you judge Max but yet you think it's funny he get real r@ped in prison. Somehow I doubt your any better than him. Actually I know it [Link]
heh8me Deactivated User 47 Posts 7/10	Posted - Sep 15 2010 : 3:45AM GoodCharles wrote: It was an unconstitutional act to imprison Max. His rights were violated. Click to expand They might not have used the appropriate set of laws to nail the guy. But only because "obscenity" is such a vague term. They did know what they were getting themselves into. If not they shouldn't be in porn. Click to expand I think your saying that if they don't have the brains to see that Max is over their head then doing porn in general is going to be over their head. I agree. Most girls in porn are not ready for Max and most girl avoid Max. But if they didn't know what they were getting into the fact that shouldn't be in porn is irrelevant. Max has a lot of gals you wont see in any other vids. Click to expand Do you feel the same about femdom sites that beat men? They have a site where it's female MMA/Kickboxer types that beat men. They even had an event where one the 'ladies' actually ruptured the guys testicle and he had to goto hospital. I'm sure your standard response will be ..'well it's a guy and he's letting them dominate' Well like I said the women on these sites can kick most guys arse in real life and the men are typically frail,really old(in 60's) or obese. But your right they choose this line of work just like Maxes females. [Link]
heh8me Deactivated User 47 Posts 7/10	Posted - Sep 20 2010 : 8:24PM When Max gets out I hope he moves to Europe and makes hard porn like before and at end of each tape he burns USA flag [Link]
Karloff Deactivated User 319 Posts 7/10	Posted - Nov 2 2010 : 1:00PM Max is a hero to the downtrodden. [Link]
Gonzoe New Member 5 Posts 11/10	Posted - Nov 4 2010 : 6:42AM Max was in some documentary that I saw awhile ago. Explaining bout how he loves degrading women on film and treating them like shit. I cant re-call everything word for word, but it was something about how he had women use, abuse, and cheat on him in the past. So now, he pretty much has lost all respect for the ladies [Link]
heh8me Deactivated User 47 Posts 7/10	Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 10:14PM Karloff wrote: Max is a hero to the downtrodden. Click to expand Some would say the same about anyone on a porn forum.. [Link]
heh8me Deactivated User 47 Posts 7/10	Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 10:17PM Gonzoe wrote: Max was in some documentary that I saw awhile ago. Explaining bout how he loves degrading women on film and treating them like shit. I cant re-call everything word for word, but it was something about how he had women use, abuse, and cheat on him in the past. So now, he pretty much has lost all respect for the ladies Click to expand I think i saw that too. Doesnt surprise me he thinks that way if he got burned. Women get away with alot of crap now. Look at wikleaks Asange. They called it r@pe because he didn't use a dondem while having consetual sex.. [Link]

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Brandon Iron
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Posted - Aug 13 2010 : 4:15PM

One day, I hope to be mediocre. One fine day. Free Max.

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realtip
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 3:36AM

^You'd probably be safer that way. Like someone once said, "In the republic of mediocrity, genius is dangerous."

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BlackSix

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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 4:04AM

Brandon is one funny fucker.

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Schmse
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 9:00AM

Mr. John "I'm just here to blow a load" Dough once farted in Lisa Marie's face, while she was about to rim him. She immediately ran out of the room, and the scene was done. Quite creepy! It was a Meatholes scene, so that's why he and the director laughed about it....

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elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 9:10AM

Crazy Chester ended up hanging himself, did he not?

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Gore Gore Girl

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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 6:37PM

That's probably her most famous piece of writing, but not really relevant to what you were talking about. Myths of Gender: Biological Theories About Women and Men is what I had in mind when I posted her name. It's really worth a read, and deals directly with gender, hormones, sexuality etc. The Five Sexes is more to do with biological sex at birth.
Anyway, end of

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realtip
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Posted - Aug 14 2010 : 9:29PM

^I was thinking that this was going to be another article that I could quickly read. But as you know, it's a book. I doubt that I'll read it. But I have read plenty of other research on the same topic.

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bobbyd3
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Posted - Aug 15 2010 : 3:52AM

Wow.,Blacksix, as a new member,,, I'm reading my first subject that i search,,,and already I see that a senior
memeber is disrespecting a actor/director !!!!! I swear I just read in the rules/proper use section of the site that we
should be respectful of everyone.Yet here you are obviously hating on a person who does things differently than the style
you prefer. Should I assume your more of a playboy type dvd watcher ? should I just say you are a shitty person for watching mainstream/hotel rental crap with no edge !?!?!?
I think i smell a hypoctite ! And I already stinks in here !

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vanessadelriolover
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Posted - Aug 15 2010 : 4:35AM

i've been re-reading this thread and i remember it from when i first joined "Talk." Hey Black Six you really dislike Max and i'm wondering if this is based on some unappealing personal interaction you've had with this guy or if a close friend of yours crossed paths with him and has borne witness to his "animal-like" (other poster's words) behavior? i'm just curious because you've been all over the guy (maybe for good reasons besides his movies & what some stars have said regarding working with him).
i'm not sure its the coolest thing to malign fans of his work or girls who work with him as well especially if its coming from your own deep dislike of the guy?
Edited by - vanessadelriolover on 8/16/2010 4:23:25 AM

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BlackSix

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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 3:43AM

There's no problem with criticizing the quality of a director's work. I've said numerous times I'm not a big fan of most of JJs videos either, I haven't seen the sky fall when I did that either. Max is a big boy and I'm sure the least of his worries is that someone on the web thinks he makes crappy porn.
Everything I've said about Max's business practices with performers has been sourced numerous times in the various Max threads, one can search them out or just google it themselves. Max's own letters from prison refer to his drinking problem, it's good that he says he's gotten clean in prison, I wish him luck with that after he gets out.
Honestly I'm tired of the whole subject but when I see the old 'they're all consensual adults' argument come up, which I usually agree with, I feel it's only fair to point out that in Max's case it may not always be true. To me, the unwillingess of so many porn consumers to even contemplate concern about the treatment of performers speaks volumes.
Finally, if you think I have a hate-on for Max, you should look elsewhere on here where others advocate him being beaten by Samoans, tied up and violently pegged, gang-raped in prison, etc.
Edited by - BlackSix on 8/16/2010 3:52:15 AM

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 3:58AM

It's not that I have no concern for the treatment of performers. I expect them to have more concern for themselves than I'm supposed to have for them 10 years after the fact when all I can do is wag my finger at Max and say "You mean old man you!".

There is this thing you'll learn if you're ever alone in the world. And that is that if you don't care about yourself, you can't expect anyone else to. And precious few of these ladies have stepped forward to beg us to carry this argument on every day. Mostly, we just get random people who apparently assume these women want them to be their knights in shining armor. Which I guess is awfully cute but probably completely pointless and will no doubt completely ruin all porn if they keep it up.

Edited by - randomprecision on 8/16/2010 4:13:22 AM

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realtip
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 4:10AM

^+1
Excellent post.
Other than that, I'm also in agreement with most of what BlackSix wrote in his last post.

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vanessadelriolover
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 4:45AM

hey B6 I'm definitely with you here and agree with you wholeheartedly!

in addition, i am not a fan of the disparaging/superior tone i see a lot folks employ in here when referring to any number of different ladies. we derive alot of pleasure from their work as fans and they deserve our respect if for no other reason than that. its also obvious to me that there is plenty of "electronic paper" or a significant electronic paper trail of MAX's shitty deals and goings on. If i were to base my opinion about the kind of person MAX is based on this data (mostly from detractors) i'd say he is a "inhuman, callous, money-grubbing shithead" and deserves what he got. for example i remember a LUKE FORD rant basically blaming him for the death of a young woman that was from up here in the PNW (Anastasia Blue). he claims she died of a broken heart largely due to MAX and his ill-treatment of her on screen.
but what if his "attitude" is all a bunch of PR and part of a persona he created that ultimately turned against him. also i seem to remember interviews with ladies like Kitty Yung and Jade Marcela where they had nothing but good things to say about him. And what about his regular folks like China Doll or Catalina and any of the folks from the 1990s who have worked with him many times over? finally, is he the only "shithead" who treats talent like scum, underpays the girls and is dishonest? this is why i asked if you were actually in the biz and had direct contact with him because it seems that the industry has plenty of folk who might be worse than MAX but not as flamboyant (and thus not easy targets). finally don't actresses who are into this "humiliation-domination" porn go on to work with others who do the EXACT SAME THING (JM productions or benjamin bratt for example...gagging insulting language, utter humiliation and de-humanization etc.)? And isn't this urination thing a fairly common porn practice in Europe as is fisting etc....i'm pretty sure he didn't invent that stuff.
so that was my question for you, i like your posts and this is not an attack, i just was hoping for clarification and an inside scoop beyond postings, internet stuff and what we can all get through our own sleuthing. you seem to have thought about this a great deal and this reflection seems to have made you very anti-MAX. i was just wandering if there was something you know about that we don't all have access to because your feelings would be even more understandable!

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BlackSix

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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 4:55AM

I'm not a fan of JM productions, Khan Tusion (although I did like some of the Hellfire Sex videos), John Bone, Rob Black, Bruce Seven and others either but Max is the one that people return to again and again on forums. He's obviously become something of a boogeyman in American porn.
I think somewhere along the line he realized that if he didn't push things as far as he could with the pissing, vomiting, speculums, etc he would have disappeared as he's never been an exactly dynamite performer.

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elgringoviejo58
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 9:18AM

The late Bruce Seven was IMO much better than JMP or Max Hardcore.

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Perverted_Jewish_Guy
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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 1:42PM

Yeah, I meant defending him in the legal sense.
I agree his material is garbage though. I just don't see how people can get into vomiting and pissing on girls.

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BlackSix

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Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 5:25PM

I know he has his fans but I don't care for his pornography and in interviews he comes across as a very unpleasant. Certainly you never hear anything about him stepping over a performers limits though.

Edited by - BlackSix on 8/16/2010 5:26:17 PM

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vanessadelriolover
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Posted - Aug 17 2010 : 4:51AM

B6 I'm with you and PJG on the vomiting, urination bit. Doesn't work for me anymore than something like pooping on someone during sex. Nothing against anyone into any of the three, I certainly have my own kinks and the defecation crowd might think mine are fairly strange so to each his own.
Regarding in person meetings, I spoke with MAX briefly at the 2005 AVN because I was inquiring about his good stuff...pre-hospital instruments, urination, vomit (which B6 i believe you correctly identified as his way to stay relevant and cutting edge when everyone else did what he did in the 1990s and probably better). For example, i liked the Hitchhiker series and others he actually made love to a woman before jumping into the probing etc. and there was dialogue albiet corny, but what are you gonna do....its low-budget porn right? He indicated that he didn't control the masters to those titles, something about Zane keeping them from him & he was a bit tense around this topic....but nothing outlandish or "Max Hardcore-ish" per his image.
Anyway, dude was cordial, sober and very business like....he was with Catalina and she and MAX genuinely seemed to get along...wasn't a forced act. He wasn't as nice or as smart and self-aware as Ed Powers who I spoke with for over 30 minutes, but he didn't come across as a jerk. He came across as into his "image" with the bermuda shorts and the hat and being "hardcore" etc. I just think that with the multiplication of electronic media-forms and content the more we should be aware of manipulative constructions passed of as "genuine personalities" in everything from political candidates, polemic radio talk show hosts, to hip-hop artists, to so called ceo-philanthropists etc. To me it seems all about "market segment" and MAX has to do the proverbial "monkey organ grinder" bit to play up to his audience like a WWE guy.
There is a REM song that addresses this but i can't seem to remember the exact lyric at this time. Anyway, B6, PJG nice thoughts on an interesting topic! PJG, hope you stick around and enjoy the forum for a long while, i've been "official" for over a year and its a cool place to hang out with other fans with the added benefit of talent & producer/director/distributors/lawyers providing a real-world perspective!
Edited by - vanessadelriolover on 8/17/2010 4:56:48 AM

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Karloff
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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 9:43AM

I never liked his stuff mainly because there was zero tease. Just his face, like an Ed Powers flick.

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Guam
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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 11:51PM

I'll never understand why things like this are okay and Max is evil.
http://www.hotmovies.com/video/175093/Crisis/
Edited by - guam on 9/6/2010 11:53:49 PM

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Mr. Sausage
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Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 1:15AM

Rocco isn't a hero. Confirmed: Rocco has herpes and so does his wife.
He has AIDS last time I looked around the net.
He's probably a homo who hates females.
That's why he treats them the way he does.
Remember, Jim McGreevey had a wife and children. (What a cover.)
He is not very good at what he does.
Rocco was friendly with a porn collector (gay) who died of AIDS around 1996.
What do you think they were doing together? Wink, wink...

Because freedom says so, also a signed contract and someone was paid.
I don't like flogging videos.
It used to until some people over stepped their bounds and did unconstitutional things.
Max shouldn't have gone to prison.
Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 9/7/2010 1:16:29 AM
Edited by - Mr. Sausage on 9/7/2010 1:18:40 AM

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Breeze
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Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 2:01AM

I personally know two girls who have had good experiences working for Max Hardcore. I can see how new girls to the biz have a hard time with it. I can also see how new girls to the biz shouldn't even be in the biz. Really, give me a break, if you are an experienced adult film actress doing a scene with Max Hardcore you should know what to expect. But hey, ass to mouth is "cool."

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GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 6:21AM

http://youtu.be/c8gY6W8g4Ks
Well Neesa claims that she was raped by Max Hardcore and that she filed a police report. She claims, though I don't know here source, that 12 separate police reports have been filed against him.
Their is documentary for British television called Hardcore where the filmmaker claims that he has video evidence that Max Hardcore raped Felicity.
http://www.thefword.org.uk/reviews/2001/04/hardcore

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Perverted_Jewish_Guy
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Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 3:24PM

I call bullshit on the rape claims.
Seriously though, I can't believe nobody is going to challenge these "offensive" charges. This is one the most unconstitutional cases I've ever heard of. These girls know what they're getting themselves into. End of story.
It's funny how they make a big deal out of sexual fetishes like this that use legal consenting adults but somehow they find it less offensive with the UFC featuring people dangerously beating the crap out of each other on live television. If anything, Dana White deserves to be jailed before Max Hardcore if they're going to play this stupid "offensive" game.

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Stalag
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Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 5:02PM

A classic cowardly rapist rant.

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GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 7 2010 : 10:41PM

I don't think that you can honestly say that you know for certain that Max's girls knew what they were getting into. A lot of them were little girls. Isn't his mansion in the middle of nowhere? Yeah, whats that about. Yeah, there are all these liberals who think they are smart that see's Max's imprisonment as a blow to free speech. But you know sometimes liberals can be utter idiots, they don't get it.

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StillHope
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Posted - Sep 8 2010 : 11:24AM

Since Neesa is back posting on youtube in defense of Neesa...
Anyone know where to get the Euro Edition of her Extreme Teens 3?

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peppe
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Posted - Sep 8 2010 : 1:11PM

DUDE .... it's just PORN

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Mr. Sausage
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Posted - Sep 8 2010 : 2:40PM

They weren't "little girls." They did know what they were getting themselves into.
If not they shouldn't be in porn. His mansion is where he wants it to be.
My mansion would be in the middle of nowhere.
I agree your statement about liberals.
It was an unconstitutional act to imprison Max.
His rights were violated.

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BlackSix

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Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 3:15AM

You're a class act.

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GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 4:44AM

They might not have used the appropriate set of laws to nail the guy. But only because "obscenity" is such a vague term.

I think your saying that if they don't have the brains to see that Max is over their head then doing porn in general is going to be over their head. I agree. Most girls in porn are not ready for Max and most girl avoid Max. But if they didn't know what they were getting into the fact that shouldn't be in porn is irrelevant. Max has a lot of gals you wont see in any other vids.

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Mr. Sausage
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Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 1:41PM

It wasn't just that. But all the girls are legal and he didn't break any laws.

I sure am. ;)

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killbillvol69

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Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 4:29PM

By most accounts (even people within the biz), the vast majority of porn performers have herpes. What's your point?

Uh-huh. That's why he's still performing all the time, right? Not only does he not have AIDS, but he doesn't even have HIV, otherwise his AIM test would keep him from getting any performers to agree to work with him. (You do know that AIDS and HIV aren't the same thing, right? Cuz it kinda sounded like you don't).
Next time, when looking for facts it might do well to do more than just 'look around the net'.

I'm not sure I can speak to how he does or doesn't treat females, but in no way does one's sexual orientation have a causal effect on one's treatment of women.

Are you saying that having a gay friend, or a friend with AIDS, means that you're having sex with them? They may have been having sex, I really can't say. But I don't see what this has to do with anything. Again, as stated above, Rocco most certainly does not have HIV, otherwise all the performers you see fucking him in his movies wouldn't be doing so.
Now, how about you clean your act up? No part of that post was acceptable as decent forum etiquette.
Thank you.

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Perverted_Jewish_Guy
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Posted - Sep 9 2010 : 4:30PM

True, you idiots can talk all you want but there was nothing illegal about what he did.
I already talked about this but I'm sure you all know what the UFC is. It's a fighting league for Mixed Martial Arts fighters who beat the crap out of each other on live television. Now this thing is really dangerous. You're allowed to choke people out until they tap out. I'm not kidding on that either. And yes, it's real. It's not like WWE wrestling.
The fact that Max is in jail but nothing is being done about the UFC is just confusing to me considering they're the ones who put up real dangerous acts.

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Mr. Sausage
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 1:56PM

According to liberals who hate freedom of speech.
At least I'm honest and I don't try to take away someone's right to say what they want.

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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 4:05PM

You have no rights at this privately owned business.

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StillHope
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Posted - Sep 11 2010 : 1:31PM

lol, Steph has few words but they carry so much weight.
I watched Neesa's YouTube video and while I don't doubt she was told to do things on the spot that weren't aforementioned, I wouldn't call it "rape" as she does.
According to the documentary "9to5: Days in Porn" a lot of girls aren't told things up front...sometimes they aren't even told the title of the movie they are shooting for. (As shown in Extreme Violations) ...BUT....
She swallowed piss 4 or 5 times and even let him piss on her face after the pop shot and showed no signs of distress. Allison Kilgore stated on LukeFord that she would not under any circumstances let Max pee on her so they used the old yellow water with a tube trick.
Bottom line...I am sure Neesa got "hosed" no pun intended and ended up doing things she didn't really like doing...but I do not believe she was raped.

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Posted - Sep 11 2010 : 2:40PM

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map47
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Posted - Sep 11 2010 : 2:49PM

hi,
i thought Rocco was fine in the past but he seems to be into the choking and spitting,which i find pointless and not sexual at all.but to each their own.map47

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ZeroCool007
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Posted - Sep 12 2010 : 4:48PM

wow there's a lot of deactivated users on this thread...My own opinion of MH is that while I'm surprised and a bit turned off at some of his antics, there's also been some hot scenes that I've watched...the two actresses that I enjoyed watching perform were Catalina and Melody Love...could have done withouth the vomit stuff though...

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Porn_Freedom
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Posted - Sep 12 2010 : 5:12PM

I remember seeing a BTS for Max Hardcore once, after the shoot was done the girl said, "Okay I ready to get fucked now."
Max is a pathetic male performer (although I do like watching his videos). He is old and slow, and Max frequently gets out of breath. But most noticeable of Max's attributes is compared to the rest of the porn world he has a small penis, and he'll never be able to truly stretch those girls the way performers like Voodoo, Mark Ashley, Lex, Richard Mann, Mandingo, Diesel, Everhard, ect... can.
Max makes up for this smallness by slapping around and pissing on the girls (kinda cool).
So Richard Mann can make the girls really scream by slamming their cervix while Max takes a leak on the girl for 30 seconds. It no comparison, what Max does is gentle compared to today's monster cocks.
When you watch brief clips of Max it seem brutal, but when you watch the entire scene (Euro version) Max's action are slow and pathetic.

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zambi
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 4:44AM

Like a lot of guys I rented a few Max movies in the early days
just to check out a few for shock value and to see what the hubbub
was about. I found Max incredibly obnoxious and irritating, and the
movies were not erotic at all not like kink.com stuff. Definitely
not jack off material unless you get off on abuse. I never rented
anymore of his movies. I think the last one I saw was the one with
Lelani Lei?
Anyway that being said I thought he had the right to make that crap
if he wanted to and that the girls obviously knew what they were
getting into and were probably well paid. After Max had done a few
titles he had a rep so its incredibly hard to believe that even girls
new to the biz didn't know what he was about? And they had to know he
paid extra for a reason.
I think a lot of girls complained about Max after shooting with him
to try to distance themselves and change their image after seeing
how other girls reacted and to try to get more mainstream porn work
or even feature film work. One thing for sure they never complained
about his checks bouncing like some other producers.
Regardless of how people feel about Max it doesn't matter now. I
think he went bankrupt from legal fees and fines and he's probably
getting used and abused in prison like he did those girls. He's
probably doing hard rough anal scenes and getting pissed on right
now.

Edited by - zambi on 9/13/2010 4:46:08 AM

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 7:14AM

NM
Edited by - randomprecision on 9/13/2010 7:14:28 AM

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heh8me
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Posted - Sep 15 2010 : 3:40AM

zambi wrote:
Like a lot of guys I rented a few Max movies in the early days
just to check out a few for shock value and to see what the hubbub
was about. I found Max incredibly obnoxious and irritating, and the
movies were not erotic at all not like kink.com stuff. Definitely
not jack off material unless you get off on abuse. I never rented
anymore of his movies. I think the last one I saw was the one with
Lelani Lei?
Anyway that being said I thought he had the right to make that crap
if he wanted to and that the girls obviously knew what they were
getting into and were probably well paid. After Max had done a few
titles he had a rep so its incredibly hard to believe that even girls
new to the biz didn't know what he was about? And they had to know he
paid extra for a reason.
I think a lot of girls complained about Max after shooting with him
to try to distance themselves and change their image after seeing
how other girls reacted and to try to get more mainstream porn work
or even feature film work. One thing for sure they never complained
about his checks bouncing like some other producers.
Regardless of how people feel about Max it doesn't matter now. I
think he went bankrupt from legal fees and fines and he's probably
getting used and abused in prison like he did those girls. He's
probably doing hard rough anal scenes and getting pissed on right
now.
Edited by - zambi on 9/13/2010 4:46:08 AM
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I think it's funny how you judge Max but yet you think it's funny he get *real* r@ped in prison. Somehow I doubt your any better than him. Actually I know it

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heh8me
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Posted - Sep 15 2010 : 3:45AM

Do you feel the same about femdom sites that beat men? They have a site where it's female MMA/Kickboxer types that beat men. They even had an event where one the 'ladies' actually ruptured the guys testicle and he had to goto hospital. I'm sure your standard response will be ..'well it's a guy and he's letting them dominate' Well like I said the women on these sites can kick most guys arse in real life and the men are typically frail,really old(in 60's) or obese. But your right they choose this line of work just like Maxes females.

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heh8me
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Posted - Sep 20 2010 : 8:24PM

When Max gets out I hope he moves to Europe and makes hard porn like before and at end of each tape he burns USA flag

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Karloff
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Posted - Nov 2 2010 : 1:00PM

Max is a hero to the downtrodden.

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Gonzoe
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Posted - Nov 4 2010 : 6:42AM

Max was in some documentary that I saw awhile ago. Explaining bout how he loves degrading women on film and treating them like shit. I cant re-call everything word for word, but it was something about how he had women use, abuse, and cheat on him in the past. So now, he pretty much has lost all respect for the ladies

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heh8me
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Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 10:14PM

Some would say the same about anyone on a porn forum..

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heh8me
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Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 10:17PM

I think i saw that too. Doesnt surprise me he thinks that way if he got burned. Women get away with alot of crap now. Look at wikleaks Asange. They called it r@pe because he didn't use a dondem while having *consetual* sex..

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