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Lezzyist
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Because no one can financially do that anymore. Not with GG sites closing left and right over the past decade, and performers on Twitter saying their GG doesn't sell unless it has big dildos or plots for creepers. Not enough GG buyers.

I didn't realize how truly niche the genre was until recently. Lots of people will look up GG for a few seconds on pornhub, but not many of us are buying it apparently

blackdragontea
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Posted - Dec 27 2024 : 3:17PM
Thank you! Yeah too bad about Evelyn retiring from mainstream work. To me she's beyond hot. This seeming femme fatale role is perfect for her looks: classy, alluring, but in a dangerously understated way.
blackdragontea
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If you are referring to those who only work in g/g scenes, then yeah I agree there are very few of them these days. The biggest single group of them, as far as I know -- which I had referred to multiple times in the past -- is what I called the "Miracle Generation" of Viv Thomas girls, like Sandy, Jo, Eve Angel, Sophie Moone, Sandra Shine, Peaches, Vera, Stella Stevens.

When I was young they did hold a special allure to me, because this helped with the fantasy that they were "real" lesbians. As I watched more porn over the years, it has become non-issue for me. As the academic researcher on porn Heather Berg put it, "every porn scene is a record of people at work." I can appreciate good works and good performances. Their "real" personal sexuality is neither here nor there.

I had talked about Berg elsewhere, but basically she wrote some papers and a book on this. The book was titled "Porn Work: Sex, Labor, and Late Capitalism" and published in 2021. She got her information by talking to dozens of porn performers, agents, directors, and company owners. You can listen to a podcast she did with Tristan Taormino (a porn director) here where they talk about the book.

I don't remember if Berg made this point during that specific podcast, but she talked about how some porn performers like to work with some other specific performers. When she asked them why, it was rarely because they felt sexual attraction toward them. Instead, mostly it was because they felt they were experienced, were able to communicate effectively, and the two of them were able to work well to produce a product that fit the director's requirements. In other words, a good colleague.

Porn is a fantasy. If someone prefer to enjoy the "real lesbian" fantasy, that's perfectly fine. I'm just content with appreciating good performances.

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I've never quite got the obsession some have with wanting the women to be 'real' lesbians or something along those lines. I just look at them as actresses playing a role like any other actress and the best ones take pride in their work and want to be good at it and maybe even get some pleasure out of it. This pride can take the form of knowing what the scene requires and acting in an appropriate way for that scene and it can take the form of portraying a reasonable facsimile of an orgasm.

The 'bad' actresses' for me are the ones that are either so over the top as to be compensating or just so uninterested as to show no effort. There is also the case of not understanding your role for which the director shares some amount of blame. Nothing is as annoying as when somebody went to the trouble to come up with a story and write a little script and then when the sex starts the characters that were just established with the dialogue go out the window and the shy innocent girl is suddenly acting like an experienced lesbian. It is why when something comes along like the Alina Lopez/Kendra Spade scene that it is so well liked. They nailed it all and it's damn rare.

As for having strictly GG only performers I think what they bring is that they are usually (but not always) the ones that take their work the most seriously and can bring out better performances in their partners and when there aren't many of them that lowers the number of quality scenes IMO.

Edited by - gorgon on 12/27/2024 4:42:04 PM

 
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Honestly, looking back, I think you'd find the majority of "GG only" performers were really more "I have/will have a boyfriend/husband" performers, as in not wanting to work with dudes because of the potential impact on dating/relationships during and after working. I'm reminded of one in particular, a disc jockey of sorts lol, who was notorious for only pretending to lick vulva when she could get away with it, and she was known among fans for her "good performances" with women (read: they actually just liked her epically perfect naturals and overall purely excellent body).


Edited by - Lezzyist on 12/27/2024 6:03:22 PM

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^ that disc jockey had a great set of turn tables, which just confirms that the best equipment becomes useless if you lack the talent and drive
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^oh man, they are epically good turntables. But I just like that type of look in general all the way around. Queenie Sateen is kinda sorta similar-looking, if you ever want to watch someone with a similar look to the DJ but who is a bit more willing with other women, so to speak.

Edited by - Lezzyist on 12/27/2024 6:45:10 PM

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Some old-ish tweets that might be relevant in that "gg only" discussion.

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Never put it past industry dudes to be weirdos.

blackdragontea
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I pretty much agree with your assessment. I'll only note that when I said "g/g only" performers were exciting for me in the past because it fueled my "they are really lesbians" fantasy, I was only speaking for myself. Other people -- such as Jozko111 -- may find g/g only performers appealing for some other reason.

When you talk about the Alina/Kendra scene, I assume you are talking about their "What Set Us Apart" scene? If so, again I completely agree that it's an excellent scene due to not just the sex, but also the acting (in fact many viewers agreed, as it was the most commented and second most viewed scene on Girlsway). In this case, if we ignore the work/acting aspect of porn and overly insist on being real/authentic, we actually de-value the acting talent of these two women.

I also agree with you that on average g/g only performers tend to be better at g/g scenes. It could be because in real life they are lesbians/bisexuals, or it could simply be because they tend to shoot more of these scenes so get more practice at it. But I don't watch some abstract "average" scene. Nobody does. We all watch specific scenes. Speaking for myself, there are plenty of good scenes these days even when there are few g/g only performers, because there are so many other women who are good at these scenes.

blackdragontea
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Ok so this is the second (and last) part of my review of the Adam & Eve movie "Ulterior Motives" that came out in May of this year. This is the last scene of the movie, between Evelyn Claire and Scarlett Alexis. The plot, from what I can see of it (I've skipped all the straight scenes and associated plot, so I'm missing most of it), is impressively elaborate and done well. As for the sex, the lighting is a bit dark, but wow I have never seen a hotter Evelyn!

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This scene starts with Evelyn coming to an apartment where, to her apparent surprise, Scarlett is packing and ready to leave. We have a very brief black and white flashback to when they first met. Then we go back to the present, where, to her even greater shock, Evelyn finds her husband is gagged and tied up behind the couch!

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Scarlett walks out, while a frantic Evelyn unties her husband. They chase Scarlett down the stairs -- apparently she has walked away with their money in some shady scheme -- only to helplessly watch Scarlett getting into a waiting car. It ends with a shot of Scarlett's face, looking smug and satisfied. It's a double cross!

From what I can gather of the plot, this is really cool. The story sets up Evelyn to be this scheming femme fatale, using her sexual allure to trick other people into some con (perhaps using her husband as a pawn). In fact, it turns out Scarlett is the one who has played her.

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Then we go back to the flashback when they first met. It's very nice how the scene transitions from black and white into color as the sex begins, though I wonder what it would look like if the whole thing is in black and white? Perhaps it will be really nice, as both women have dark hair that naturally contrasts with their paler skins, especially Evelyn. The initial foreplay is nice but a bit short.

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They start with a brief facesitting with Scarlett beautifully eating Evelyn's pussy. Then in a part I find really hot, Scarlett rubs herself against Evelyn's thigh, while Evelyn sucks on her breasts and they kiss.

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Then Scarlett sits on Evelyn's face in this position that I normally very much dislike, because it hides the face of the woman on the bottom. But here I must admit it affords an unique angle -- it shows how Evelyn's mouth is just perfectly flush with Scarlett's pussy, and hints at just how deeply her tongue must be buried inside Scarlett. Wow that looks so sexy. Then Scarlett eats out Evelyn in some excellent oral as well.

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The next part is the highlight of the scene, and perhaps the best I've ever seen from Evelyn. She licks and sucks Scarlett's clit, and then combines her mouth with her fingers for some just fantastic action.

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After that, she deeply kisses Scarlett while continuing to finger fuck her beautifully. In the final part of the movie, we fade back to black and white, while the two talk -- apparently this is the genesis of their scheme together. Evelyn eventually wonders out loud, "How do I know I can trust you though?" Scarlett never answers, and the movie ends with a shot of Scarlett's face, back at the present... It turns out Evelyn is not really the seductress, but the victim of an even more ruthless seductress!

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How I feel watching the current GG porn content options:

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Bruh's reaction is hilarious

Polo900
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A lot of Brazzers G/G scenes, or from AYLO in general, have this acting.🤣🤣
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Edited by - whyalwaysbilly on 12/30/2024 5:14:19 PM

Scotty B_1123
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Definitely a scene pairing worth owning. I also lament Evelyn Claire leaving the industry as her G/G performances were always done with a "realness" quality you don't see often enough. Scarlett Alexis has really developed into a high quality G/G performer and with her stunning looks, she's the kind of actress that greatly improves the present day mainstream studios lesbian actress talent pool.

 
LittleMissLively
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Is it interesting that g/g fans are one of the very few subsets of porn consumer who don't seem to suffer from the 'numbing' effect that causes the rest of the industry's audience to insist on ever-more extreme content? I've noticed this tends to be the main tenet of most anti-porn essaying, basically that it leads to harder stuff - harder dehumanizing stuff that tends to be vulnerable to moral critique, fairly or not. But whenever I see such essaying, I think, that's not true of me. I do have the standard porn one-and-done taste where the content must be constantly replenished (although I tend to go back in time for new supply). But contentwise, extremeness is not part of my g/g aesthetic - simple acts done credibly by hotties, over and over, is what interests me - and my sense is this is true for most posters in this thread.

Just a thought I had. It's related to another one about the specific inherent sexuality of the g/g audience worldview, whether it fits synonymously with traditional heterosexuality. But that's probably something for my therapist.

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^I don't think it's as bad as some BG fans (really, you need double-anal, two dicks in the asshole? OK, time to go outside lol), but think many GG fans start needing bizarre, outlandish stuff to get off too. That's where the pdf file/incest dialogs start coming in.

I got annoyed with one site because a stream on releases in a row had the guy getting performers talking about the sex they supposedly had at like 10-12 years old of whatever. Like, mofo, can we not just enjoy the naked, grown chicks doing stuff together? You have to make it weird?

Besides stuff like that, aren't there relatively few people who only watch GG? The GG watchers are probably watching double-anal stepmother or whatever too, for the most part, to be fair.


One thing I am excited about and hope to see more of is American/U.S. performers doing GG for Sexart and hopefully VivThomas. The MetArt sites mostly don't have the weirdo keyword mandates for their content.


Edited by - Lezzyist on 12/29/2024 2:55:46 AM

RZombie
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Guys could you recommend some of the best 69 scenes you've seen?
Thank you very much in advance, and Happy New year!
eccentric_mike
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Posted - Dec 29 2024 : 1:47PM
^A couple, from the top of my head:
1. Cassidey Rae (she went by the name of Bobbi at the time the scene was shot) and Bunny Luv, from Buffy Malibu's Nasty Girls #21
2. Sammie Rhodes and Kinzie Kenner from Elegant Angel's Lil' Red Riding Slut
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She seduced me website and Slayed my favourite lesbian websites
Scotty B_1123
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EXCELLENT work putting this list together, BDT!

And while I agree with you on most of the actresses on your list, but not necessarily on how well you rate them, here are the actresses I would have never placed on my list:

Charlotte Stokely (Such an incredibly OVERRATED G/G actress, it's mind boggling)

Chanel Camryn

Angel Windell

Charlotte Sins

Mia

Katy Rose

Alexis Tae

Candee Licious

Antonia Sainz

Casey Nohrman (who??)

Lauren Phillips

Nicole Aria

Ryan Reid

Emma Hix

These would be better on a "personal favorite list" especially the actresses that have a small number of G/G scene credits to date, like Chanel Camryn, or others like Katy Rose who only perform scenes for one platform and/or not as well known.


Again, while I agree on the majority of your choices, I have to wonder why the following actresses are NOT included, even in your HONORABLE MENTION section:

Ryan Ryans (Ryan has earned the right to be on everyones BEST list a thousand times over)

Gianna Dior (Arguably having the brightest "star power" in adult today, along with Vanna Bardot and Angela White)

Kelly Collins (Best Euro actress presently along with Veronica Leal)

Aiden Ashley (LEGEND)

Penny Barber (Her scenes with All Her Luv are award-winning alone, much less her other studio scene work and her stellar physique)

Eva Long (Born to do excellent G/G scenes and is so incredibly attractive)

Chloe Amour (Another natural with women since her Reality Kings scene work with Ryan Ryans & Eva Lovia)

Natasha Nice (LEGENDARY, without question)

Penelope Kay (Another natural in her G/G performances, including foot fetish scene work, along with Aiden Ashley

Spencer Bradley (Another actress born to perform some of the most raw and erotic G/G scenes to date for many studios)

Pristine Edge (At the peak of the best lesbian scene performances of her career for Girlfriends, Mommy's Girl, etc. presently)

Jenna Foxx (An amazing stunner who continues to cross between mainstream studios and lesbian websites (She Seduced Me, etc.) always providing excellent performances)

Syren De Mer (LEGENDARY MILF) who can still deliver great G/G content

I understand the idea of "to each their own" but there are definitely some things that should be universally agreed on, as certain....

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^Eh. All of this is subjective. The entirety of both of your lists are "personal faves" lists, especially if you aren't counting on anything technical. I do agree there are some performers on his list that look dreadful trying to have sex with women...but yours too lol.

As far as number of shoots booked, I don't think that matters in any technical or factual sense. Gianna Dior has done a number of super awkward-looking "lesbian" shoots while Chanel Camryn has probably done more shoots with some level of believable action that. Gianna in less attempts. Freya Parker was doing actual proper cunnilingus from her very first shoot.

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^Well, I never thought I would start NYE agreeing with Lezzyist, yet here we are. :)
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^^casey nohrman is a v hot straplez babe, one of the few names on any list of recent stars I'd agree with. Share the view on charlotte stokely hagiography _except_ for her scene with Kirsten price in the regrettably titled 'lesbian stepsisters 5' (the scene is a father's-mistress-vs-daughter one which I consider righteous American kink and not gross.) When it's all tallied up in the end at the gates of hell post-nose-job Kirsten is going to be the star who ended a large plurality of my viewing sessions and it won't be that close. Brilliant and beautiful gg performer, one deep kiss and it's over.

Edited by - LittleMissLively on 12/31/2024 6:27:49 PM

Scotty B_1123
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For sure, it's definitely subjective no doubt but there are some things that really are indisputable. Freya Parker for one, she's an enormously gifted G/G talent and a top tier star and shouldn't be in doubt by anyone who actively follows lesbian erotica as we do here. I'd also agree that Gianna needed some time to become as fine as she is now in lesbian scenes and also performs great G/G content now, as her work with Slayed proves.

Like I noted though, BDT's list is mostly spot on and I would agree with most all of his selections.

 
Scotty B_1123
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Many thanks LittleMissLively for this info, I'll have to research Casey's work, she's quite attractive. Unlike BDT, I am not at all a fan of scenes that include strap-ons or toys of any kind, so that's why I am completely unfamiliar with Casey or the other actresses doing mainly Straplez scenes.

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Even still, this thing about Freya Parker being "enormously gifted" is almost entirely subjective (I 1000% agree though). If we wanted to be a little closer to talking objectively, we could say that Freya technically eats pussy in a way one would expect to be actually effective when people are acting normal and actually having sex, as opposed to mostly just miming and exaggerating for show like a Char Stokely (you guys should have seen the tongue-flick head-bob theatre motion I just did). Or we might say that she tends to give the other girl eye contact, or that she tends to touch the other girl and initiate body contact as if she really wants her to feel good, or that she doesn't change the action she is doing every three seconds so it looks like she has actual experience and intent, etc. Details like these move a little bit closer to objectivity and whether people agree with the evaluation or not (since even fine details are still subjective), to me they are more useful in conveying what's good about the performer than simple superlatives.

For my personal, subjective taste, I would mostly not consider Slayed to be good content because the action on the site mostly does not look technically sound. There's lots of rapid movements and porn phraseology "dirty talk" and theatrics and shiny objects to look at, but the answer to my bottom line question of any video "does what they are doing look physically correct and likely, as far as people having sex?" is usually 'no, not even close' on Slayed. And to be fair, that's not what the site is about. Slayed is more about capturing key shots of specific poses than whatever interaction the performers could gin up. The value of that style of content is subjective, but the description I gave hopefully has a little more objectivity or quasi-fact basis to it than if I just said "Slayed looks like goofy nonsense", like I probably tend to do lol.


Edited by - Lezzyist on 12/31/2024 12:29:34 PM

LittleMissLively
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^I also despise strap-on scenes and rue even the appearance of dildos in g/g - and yet straplez I love. It's interesting - the anti-strap and anti-dildo taste is informed not by the objects themselves but what they normally entail, which is (to me anyway) cartoonish and lazy scenes that are distanced from intimate sexual response. Straplez is very much the exception that proves the rule - the strap-on is made highly intimate in by being made the focus of their scenes - the site has this weirdly robotic tone to it that somehow _also_ makes it more erotic. Writing it down, it makes limited sense - but it's also imo true - it's basically the only new porn I consistently like.
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Another culprit is that major sites and networks now produce minimal or no G/G content. It's a point that some dispute, but the fact that Penthouse, Hustler, Ztod, Bangbros, Cherrypimps, etc... now stick exclusively to BG is a big deal. The fact that the few that do still produce content (VMG, Dyked/MILF, New Sensations, LetDoeIt, etc...) do it biweekly or monthly is also problematic.

So, as a result of turning off most "casual G/G" consumers by focusing less on the visuals and the sex, G/G has effectively been downgraded from the "red-headed" stepchild of studio porn to a niche.

The rise of Onlyfans and other factors has not helped, but there hasn't been enough effort to combat the decline or to keep things going with interesting and original content. The few sites I have seen launched in the past couple of years either halfheartedly follow trends or try something briefly before folding.

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You're much more likely to find women who actually like other women in B/G porn. Lesbian only performers do it because they have a boyfriend or husband.
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I wonder if GG was always only just barely profitable, such that the initial onset of online piracy was enough to nearly kill it. It seems that the fans of glam posing, the fans of questionable consent skits, and the fans of BG porn-sex but with two women (ala current We Live Together and most creator-owned GG) are the only bases dedicated enough to float sites.

The concept of watching women having sex with women just for the sake of watching two women *actually* physically do it appears to not be a sellable thing now, and may have never been particularly sellable.

If it feels like people don't care about the sex in GG these days, maybe the vast majority of people who pay never did. What is supposedly going on in this? lol:

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Edited by - Lezzyist on 1/1/2025 2:05:12 PM

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Questions for all of you:
Can you remember the first GG scene you finished to, and if so, what do you think of that scene now?

My first scene was "LickALike Sisters" released in 2013 on TeamSkeet, featuring Alison Tyler and Alaina Fox. They play stepsisters who are practicing basketball until Alison gets injured somehow. Alaina helps her inside and.well sex happens. There is no tension or buildup. It goes from basketball to injury to clothes are coming off for no reason.
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Alison plays the dominant role well, undressing Alaina and sucking on her tits hard, like full boob in mouth. Alaina reciprocates more gently, but adds in some nipple pinching and twisting. Alison eats Alaina and fingers her, then gets into doggy position so Alaina can bury her face in her from behind. I do like how Alison constantly reaches back to pull Alaina in while grinding on her face. Unfortunately, the oral is basically unseen.
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Alaina does get some ass eating in there and eventually adds in some fingers. There is a huge editing problem in this scene where they go from this position to 69 to being back in the previous position to 69 again. Someone wasn't paying attention. Alaina's oral is still hidden underneath Alison, who fingers Alaina rather than eating her. Then Alaina lies back in Alison's arms while Alison fingers her.
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The scene concludes with Alaina eating Alison, and this time we actually get to see her oral which I personally really like. She gets her full mouth on and sucks like Alison before adding fingers inside. She finishes Alison by rubbing her clit until Alison stops her with her hand when it gets too sensitive. Alison simply exits and the scene ends.


Looking back, this scene had a nonexistent plot and horrific editing. Too bad Alaina's oral was hidden for most of the scene. I did enjoy Alison dominating Alaina and making her bury her face in her from behind. It's much better than the over the top nonsense we see a lot. I also like the contrast between Alison's louder moans and dominance compared to Alaina's soft moans and gentler approach; it's the only personality the scene has. Too bad they shot together in a scene with anwful editing and plot.

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Something like that had to be the case since almost all the major studios stopped producing meaningful amounts so quickly (it seems like COVID was the death knell, but the trend has started going long before that). Studios that I was optimistic about also promptly threw in the towel after a few months (New Sensations / Girl Girl XXX come to mind).
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GirlGirlXXX is still going, as of yesterday, and it isn't truly new. Before GirlGirlXXX, New Sensations had TheLesbianExperience. In fact, the website design for XXX was the same as TLE when XXX launched. I just wonder what, if anything, they think they are doing differently with the rebrand, especially considering what's already on the market, with the biggest GG site being essentially the same thing that The Lesbian Experience/GirlGirlXXX is.

Edited by - Lezzyist on 1/1/2025 4:35:05 PM

 
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I briefly looked at one of the shoots I remember seeing early on in my lesbian porn fandom. It was Ryan Ryans and Abigail Mac for How To Kiss A Girl. And well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/184jy3v/whats_with_that_weird_hissing_sound_that_some/

I could not deal.

LittleMissLively
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^lol. That scene is awesome and now forever ruined.

People itt are a little newer to the genre than I realized. Not sure what my exact first was but it definitely involved Barbara Dare circa 1988. That I can straightfacedly say they still hold up is all anyone need know about the role of subjectivity in these judgments.

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^I can't unhear it in the majority of videos. Fake-gay noises are glaring and they turn me off immediately. Arguably worse than the hiss is when two super-omega-straights do pitchy sing-song hums in unison. I hate that with a passion. Can't comprehend why people like it so much, or why they think that's a thing. It's like, "you sound really annoying and stupid, stop."

Edited by - Lezzyist on 1/3/2025 2:33:59 AM

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Finally gave Bellesa a second chance so I could check out their 'Blind Date' channel. And I actually think the lesbian scenes they've released are pretty good. It reminds me a little bit of the 'We Like Girls' line over at Adulttime. The scene with Freya Parker and Nicole Vaunt is a good jumping off point for anyone who's curious about it. Unfortunately since the channel is a mix of both G/G and B/G, their release schedule is more heavily slanted toward the latter.


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A good shout, that scene high_flyin5 ↑↑↑
Been meaning to mention it myself (and had taken some screens)

I'd go far to say that with it is one the better Freya Parker scenes namely because newcomer Nicole Vaunt - aside from being very beautiful - is really up to to task as far as matching Freya's efforts in the giving pleasure department...quite often not the norm in Freya's scenes. The "blind date" format also really adds a nice charge of nervous energy that runs throughout, and the surprise (and notably the affection) during the "reveal" certainly seems genuine and is refreshingly sweet.

Wish the actual action was bit extended, being only ~20 minutes. Other minor gripe - the sequence when Nicole is vigorously fingering Freya (an obvious highlight!) is shot fully side-on, frustratingly obscuring most of what's happening.
Anyhow, really hope we see more GG content from Nicole (this and the Slayed scene seem to be her only credits as of yet)

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Doobie69
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231 Posts
10/20
Posted - Jan 4 2025 : 9:17PM
I guess I should have clarified that going from 1 scene a week to 1 scene a month is considered "throwing in the towel" in my book. It's not entirely defunct, but no one will pay exclusively for 1 scene a month, meaning that it's less of a draw and is now just part of the broader New Sensations network.

But my main point is that there was a lot more variety and a decent quantity when all the studios made a small to moderate amount of G/G instead of relying on a handful of sites that all fall for the same mommy-daddy-second cousin's aunt tropes.

Doobie

Lezzyist
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9/19
Posted - Jan 4 2025 : 11:59PM
^Oh, I get you now.

You know what? You got me thinking maybe we shouldn't say there is no variety. When I go to actually make a list, there is a site or two for things people look for most.


Incest and other skits/gimmicks: Adulttime, GirlGirlXXX, Girlfriendsfilms, StillsByAlan, Sweetheartvideo, Girlsonlyporn, Bellesaplus, Excogigirls heading this way

Boy-girl style/brazzers style: Adulttime, WLT, Twistys sometimes, creator-owned (OF, Fansly, etc)

Glam, posing, minimal sex: Twistys sometimes, Vivthomas/SexArt, Slayed, LesbianX, UltraWowLove


Strap-on again but taken kinda-sorta seriously: Straplez


Sex: excogigirls -- though it is increasingly about "barely legal" gimmick, Bellesaplus sometimes, the occasional creator-owned sex video

I'm mostly just put off at the pretty sheer dearth of options that put sex and skin contact between the women ahead of the gimmicks.

Doobie69
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231 Posts
10/20
Posted - Jan 6 2025 : 2:32AM
I agree that there is some variety, but it pales when compared to previous years, especially if one cares most about sex and the visuals.
Black Hand
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199 Posts
8/20
Posted - Jan 6 2025 : 6:32AM
Yeah many great scenes ruined by crap music & cinematography i still go back to watch some Dasha but most of those are straight scenes with maybe 1 or 2 GG scenes. I did mess about with editors and AI could get the music gone but it also removed the slaps of skin hitting each other so it was not worth it maybe someone with talent can pull it off someday.
Breeze310
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65 Posts
10/22
Posted - Jan 6 2025 : 6:33AM
Did anyone else miss this post by Vanessa Veracruz, cause I did.20250106_033042118.jpeg

Honestly, I'd love to see her collab w/ some new girls doubt it happens though

Edited by - Breeze310 on 1/6/2025 6:34:09 AM

FunInSun
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49 Posts
11/24
Posted - Jan 6 2025 : 9:51AM

Im totally fine with mainstream sites not doing GG (Penthouse, Hustler, Ztod, Bangbros, etc).
Most dont seem not as put together as others.

Many others mentioned here do quite well at it and get the formula right.
Girlfriends, Sweetheart, SheSeducedMe, AllHerLuv, Girlsway, MissaX

Seems if the stars are more involved in the process, you get a better result.
Many are directed by, produced by, favorite pairings.

A lot of stars do quite well in the scenes. Dont need to rank them as they all excel
in their own ways. Bless them for the scenes.

late2thegame
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216 Posts
10/24
Posted - Jan 6 2025 : 1:24PM
Dream Pairings for 2025 + Possible Plots & Sites:

1. Freya Parker & Alex Coal as bridesmaid and bachelorette for AllHerLuv or AllGirlsMassage.
2. Amirah Adara & Alexis Crystal for SexArt.
3. Vanna Bardot & Lilly Bell in a pool girl scene for Slayed or GirlsWay.
4. Maya Woulfe & Serene Siren tribbing for Mommy'sGirl.
5. Chloe Surreal & Victoria Voxx with a seduction plot for SweetHeartVideo.
6. Jessica Ryan & Jane Wilde for AllHerLuv.
7. Hazel Moore & Vicki Chase as boss and secretary for GirlsWay.
8. Leah Gotti & Bella Rolland as lovers for SweetHeartVideo.
9. Octavia Red & Chanel Camryn as doctor and patient for GirlsWay.
10. Casey Calvert & Kenna James with a strap-on for LezBeBad.

Bonus Scene:
- It's a Kayden Kross directed orgy scene that celebrates the variety of performers in the industry. It is shot like her Vixen/Slayed scenes "Arabesque" and "After Dark Part 5." It opens with a closeup pan across bare asses of various sizes, shapes, and shades, then cuts to a closeup pan of fronts. I imagine the performer lineup being something like Kira Noir, Gianna Dior, Violet Myers, Lacey Lennon, Laney Grey, Jennie Rose, and Blake Blossom.

Edited by - late2thegame on 1/6/2025 2:05:23 PM

high_flyin5
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729 Posts
6/10
Posted - Jan 6 2025 : 2:07PM
^Those are some really good potential pairings! I was actually thinking about this exact thing a couple days ago. To build on your premise, here's a few I was thinking that I'd really like to see this year. A few of these are pairings with performers who've already worked together and made incredibly hot scenes:

*Lacy Lennon & Serene Siren - specifically for 'We Like Girls'

*Kenna James & Sophia Locke - for Girlfriends Films

*Sinn Sage & Little Puck - for AllHerLuv

*Lacy Lennon & Demi Sutra - for Bellesa House

*Mia (top) & Cherry Kiss - Straplez

*Penny Barber & Charlotte Sins - for Girlsway

*Alexis Crystal (top) & Lovita Fate - Straplez

Edited by - high_flyin5 on 1/6/2025 2:52:03 PM

Doobie69
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231 Posts
10/20
Posted - Jan 7 2025 : 8:49AM
Fair enough, but I think that G/G as a whole has suffered. If only because many performers can no longer afford to exclusively work with women.

Doobie

late2thegame
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216 Posts
10/24
Posted - Jan 7 2025 : 12:28PM
I've been thinking.are there any lesbian threesomes that top this scene? Here are some of my favorites moments:
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Personally, I have a thing for string bikinis and a scene that starts outside but moves inside for better lighting and comfort. Ryan and Eva's make out is so soft; love the lip biting. Also love how Ryan always slides her hand down to rub her partners while kissing. She really takes charge in this scene and it seems natural for her. I bet she'd make a good GG director.
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Eva gets that full-mouth eating while Ryan sucks Chloe's tit. Love how Ryan pulls Eva into Chloe even more. However, Ryan's eating is incredible imo. It's enhanced by her constantly looking up to watch Chloe's reactions. It looks like she actually cares about her partner. With Eva, she gets her fingers deep inside too. Love how Eva squirms throughout these segments.
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When Ryan fingers Eva alongside her, she penetrates while simultaneously rubbing Eva's anus and clit. Another enjoyable part of this scene is how they tell each other exactly what they want so it feels less scripted. Ryan says, "I wanna lick your ass," and Eva obliges with Ryan getting her tongue deep in there. Eva says "bend over and let me taste you," and Ryan gets on her hands and knees. Only thing I would change about that last part is that Eva fingers Ryan herself.

I think the only way to make this scene even better would be to substitute Chloe for someone like Lily Carter. You wouldn't want someone more dominant like Celeste S or Malena M that would take away from Ryan's role, and based on Lily's scene with Malena I would think she could've brought a little more intensity to the scene and been a little more involved than Chloe was. Although, it is a shame we never got Ryan with Malena.




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