Sports is to war as pornography is to sex. ― Jonathan Haidt 222 Posts 10/13
Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 3:15AM
Does he have priors? Yes. War Machine has a couple of convictions, one in September 2007 for striking a Las Vegas man in the face and choking him unconscious during a parking lot scuffle. In early 2008 he avoided a felony rap (and jail) by pleading to a guilty to a misdemeanor and got three years probation and 30 days of community service. In 2010: he was sentenced to a year in county jail in San Diego for a felony assault conviction stemming from a fight at a Point Loma bar and another fight at a Pacific Beach bar. He served time in administrative segregation. Edited by - rtj2v0a on 8/22/2014 6:01:00 AM
^ not only that he was arrested because he was yet again violently mistreating another woman in a hotel , also according to police report there was a call to 911 from the other man involved who got hospitalized as well , so whatever Christy would do he can't escape conviction for at least repeated assault and battery
Christy's guy friend called 911 after he was himself beaten and had escaped and WM still had the time to make her shower, probably attempt to rape her, beat her and cut off most of her hair with a dull knife? Where the hell were the cops?
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scope21 Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 5:41AM
Lets hope he get butt fucked by 10 guys in his cell, he thinks his hard, wait when gets inside...the dick
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 5:45AM
Ere?, Well nothing, cos they aint smashin girls faces in...i aint muslim
Were he to say "The Sun rises in the East" and Christy to say "The Sun rises in the West" he would clearly win on correctness of testimony, and it would be entirely irrelevant to the issues at trial. It's never the case at trial that every piece of evidence is correct, even for an honest witness. Beyond lies, people misremember, misunderstand when they see, misidentify in a police lineup, misspeak from the witness stand... If a juror spots an error it need not automatically invalidate every other statement. In this case the key parts of the story have two direct witnesses plus one or more immediate outcry (aka exited utterance) witnesses. Moreover the police are likely to be able to show he was nearby based on cell phone tower data. Of course, he hasn't had a chance to cross-examine any evidence at trial. No one will applaud louder than I should he walk free after showing us all we were wrong. But I'm not holding my breath.It's not just battery but "... with serious bodily injury". There's an attempted sexual assault in there too, and apparently attempted murder too. And remember to double it because there was first the assault on the guy and then an assault on Christy. 32 year is a long, long time, but he did everything he could to earn it short of homicide, and given his record (a violet/felony assault, at least one misdemeanor assult/battery, two attacks in one evening Christy and the guy, the extent of their injuries) a judge could easy reach 32 years
^ add the other woman he was mistreating who caused the police call who lead the police to him. Also Christy's testimony has been given after the assault and in her view having escaped death by an inch , she was in shock ,was hit several times in the head and since she had multiple fractures and multiple broken teeth other than a ruptured liver and a broken rib , was very likely under some strong pain suppressant , he wasn't , she couldn't think nor remember clearly , hardly a lie in such conditions, any mistake or inconsistency for any testimony given right after the assault or her hospitalization shouldn't be taken against herFunny , Archie Bunker came to mind when I was reading that , sadly WM was serious Edited by - LCF on 8/22/2014 5:29:43 PM
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urthoughts Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 4:23PM
As per article he doesnt want his daughter sister mother aunt girlfriend or any other white girl to date a black man but has no problem with what was going to be his bride getting banged by unlimited white guys on film for money..... Interesting
LOL now you have completely lost all credibility by claiming that I'm responsible for the acts of War Machine. Your hilarious statement is the equivelant of somebody claiming that because of people like you, there are guys that are wrongfully charged with rape because of a woman's claims being taken as fact every time. You have no ability to think rationally and are starting to come across as a troll now. I gotta know, what is your gender?
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 6:36PM
So what's your point? Lots of people feel that races shouldn't mix.
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Sports is to war as pornography is to sex. ― Jonathan Haidt 222 Posts 10/13
Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 6:43PM
Other than the obvious hypocrisy in those views, please remember that he's a lowlife and, frankly, crazy. Edited by - rtj2v0a on 8/22/2014 10:22:36 PM
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 6:46PM
^^Yes, racism is alive and well both in our country and elsewhere and despite his protestation to the contrary War Machine is certainly part of that. Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/22/2014 6:46:37 PM
No, that can't factor into this sentencing since none of the facts there have been tried by a jury yet.Actually, this is an "honest witness" error the jury has to watch out for. Normally it would come up in trial, with medical testimony to help the jury decide if her perception or memory is impaired such that one might reasonably doubt WM did it. Having both the guy and Christy testify is a big win. But if the jury does decide both can't be relied on, even if they're trying to be honest witnesses, then there has to be something else or Not Guilty. In the real world, juries give great weight to victim IDs, maybe too much. I don't think he has a lot of hope here. I doubt this goes to trial. I think his defense attorney will look at it and decide that the best that can be done is plea bargain, depending on how parole works in Nevada.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 7:20PM
I should have added to the end of my post, "and that's not limited to whites either"
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 7:48PM
The racism is not a shock ( even though he says hes not a racist) its that these views come from a man who allows " his woman" to fuck other guys for a living
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 8:35PM
^I don't want to get us off topic, but I'll just go ahead and respond to your statement. Strangely enough, you actually hear this a lot in porn. We've heard people in porn say how girls don't do IR because their boyfriends are opposed to it, or their families won't approve. Personally, if my girlfriend/daughter/sister were a pornstar, then I'd think I'd have a major problem with the whole idea of her having sex on camera, period. Who the guys are wouldn't even matter. I just wouldn't want her doing it at all. But maybe that's just me. Apparently, there are quite a few white guys out there that have no problem at all with their girlfriends/daughters/sisters fucking on camera, as long as it's only with white guys. Talk about crazy and dysfunctional. It never made sense to me, neither do I imagine that it makes sense to any other intelligent person. But pornstars aren't exactly known for their intelligence, which is a big piece of puzzle as to why many of them are pornstars in the first place. But I digress.
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 8:49PM
^ no, your not alone on that one
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 9:44PM
The racism is not a shock ( even though he says hes not a racist) its that these views come from a man who allows " his woman" to fuck other guys for a living
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What's one thing got to do with the other? My GF and I fuck other people all the time but we don't include several ethnic groups into the mix for whatever reason , it doesn't make us racist, it's just not our preference.
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Posted - Aug 22 2014 : 11:40PM
^War Machine isn't talking about a couple making a dual decision based on shared preferences.
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Posted - Aug 23 2014 : 2:45AM
What's one thing got to do with the other? My GF and I fuck other people all the time but we don't include several ethnic groups into the mix for whatever reason , it doesn't make us racist, it's just not our preference.
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It doesnt make rosco racist because rosco is just not attracted to other ethnic groups. War machine doesnt believe any white females should have sex with any black males. this makes war machine racist. This for war machine seems more like a moral issue than an attraction one. Selling your ass in a porno does not seem to be high on the scale of morality in todays society so it struck me as odd that a guy like war machine would stress morals when it comes to the ethnicity of the people you have sex with but not that your having sex with numerous people for profit to begin with If rosco agrees with war machine that no white woman should have sex with black men than i can see why you are confused
LOL really , firstly you compared ME to him (no better than him you said) and you dare call me a troll? Also that your FIRST sentence imply he's a very bad thing (no better than him) and this means that you too in your mind already sentenced him as bad. Secondly I'm talking about THIS case not the whole universe of relationship between man women and out of scale who live on earth , thus your claiming about guys "charged because a woman's claim is being taken as a fact" is rather an excuse to lighten the burden over this beast , for example "she lied" and " he proved this" which is completely laughable considering her condition in her hospital bed If she was a witness of a murder any defender would discard her testimony on this fact alone , she was shocked , battered and under sedatives possibly very strong sedatives (several broken teeth for god sake this alone is extremely painful , add a broken jaw , a broken rib painful at EVERY breath until treated , 10 fractures on her face , meaning her HEAD has been badly beaten , a severely ruptured liver which yet again is very painful ) and yet you take her words against her? Any witness would be requested to repeat what happened some days after the assault in a more calm condition , which is what the police did before they compiled their report in which she admitted she dated him after they split. Furthermore there was someone else in there another guy , a man who has been badly battered who also needed urgent medical care and that makes two witnesses not just "the words of a woman" Many find excuses (poor guy she cheated on him, it was only in his mind but still, poor guy he was frustrated , he lost his job and things like that) to confound peoples and jury , and this is the very fact why most of those abusers can escape justice, I mean real abusers , those who often end killing the woman , too often killed or physically ruined forever And I didn't say you were responsible for what WM did , I said that such way of thinking which is very apparent in your writings is what allow the actual abusers including some sexual abusers to escape justice I'm aware that some women lie and when there aren't witnesses her word weights more that of the man , but a tribunal is there to do just that find out the truth and to emit a verdict accordingly, sometimes it fails this doesn't mean that every man is innocent because of this , tribunals are made by men and women they can make mistakes , they do for murderers too. And you are the one who say to ME I have no ability to think rationally? Also your final statement questioning my gender reveals really a lot , follows your statement about rationality thus implied I must be a woman , otherwise I'd be able to think like you. Well your final statement throws into garbage mound anything you may say on the subject which very likely is gender oriented and sexist. Oh and I won't answer to your final question , I read writings here and don't care about the gender of the speaker , what is said matters more to me , i really read it with no prejudice , doesn't seem to be your case
Obviously we are just discussing and expressing opinions I just said that among the facts who may emerge on trial his previous allegations and his violence against another woman after the alleged double assault , may be taken into consideration as evidence of a consolidated behaviour on his part . Also we are not talking about some witnesses of an abstract fact they may have seen , there is a severely injured woman who has escaped naked to the house of a neighbour who helped her and from which she called for an ambulance. There are other witnesses none of them battered by him
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Posted - Aug 23 2014 : 5:19AM
Didnt know the neanderthal could think??
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Sports is to war as pornography is to sex. ― Jonathan Haidt 222 Posts 10/13
Posted - Aug 23 2014 : 5:23AM
The jury will probably be instructed to stick to the facts of this case to decide this case. That means, what happened in the Mac home that night. Anything outside of the scope of this particular case could be inadmissible. If he is convicted, his prior convictions would be taken into account, not his arrests. He was been convicted twice in the last six years and has served jail time. That could be a factor in the severit of his sentence. But as another respondent said, it might not go to trial.
^ Basically your saying that the jury will be instruct to A-dismiss any testimony of any witness B- dismiss any medical report C-dismiss any police report D- dismiss any admission on twitter he made about being there In fact all those things happened out of the house but since only the testimony of WM will be admitted then, of course, he'll be released For A as I said and yourself clarified Mack testimony isn't relevant because of the shock and injuries , same for the man who was there, of course the Neighbour who helped her can't say nothing of what really happened. B , she was injured but this doesn't prove anything even though she couldn't have inflicted injuries like those herself C, the Police only collected the reports and the statements above thus their reports are irrelevant D even though his cellphone was the one sending messages , even though it said things only a witness could have said , even though he put pictures available only to him, there's no conclusive evidence he actually texted such things Conclusion. A battered man badly beaten called 911 was taken to an hospital and made a statement about someone responsible of that Some time later a naked very badly beaten and wounded woman rings a bell of a house , someone helped her, she was taken to the hospital where she gives a statement about a man possibly trespassing who did that, in the same place and a consistent hour of the one before A guy who may not know anything and maybe wasn't there went on the run with no reason at all , he forgot his tablet/smartphone But all of this never happened , the jury will be instruct to dismiss all of this as irrelevant about what really happened there. Possibly nothing , people should learn to walk , missteps could be very dangerous Edited by - LCF on 8/23/2014 8:21:47 AM
He Was a date not a boyfriend , if he was that could be even worse a man trespassing in a house , badly beat the regular BF kick him out of the house and then badly beat the legit owner of the place
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Posted - Aug 23 2014 : 9:56AM
Corey Thomas - he was on a reality show or something. I'm sorry that I posted anything with the word racist in it. Please leave the IR discussion to the many other threads dedicated to it. I posted it more to show War Machine not accepting responsibility for his own actions and his attitude towards women and domestic abuse.
If you learned how to read and not lose control with another one of your feminist-induced rages you would see that I was responding to scope21, not you. Most of your diarrhetic smearage of a post here could have been avoided but that would be too much to ask for someone as tiny minded as you.So everything that she said in her story that conforms with your agenda should be taken as a fact, and everything that is wrong is just 'oh she's in poor condition please ignore it, even if they are lies'. Got it.And I never saw you make any grievances over the guy who got battered. I wonder why. Also he was out of the house before most of the crimes happened, so there are no witnesses for what exactly happened in the house.In other words, a random poster on a message board is one of the reasons abusers get away with their crimes. Don't back-peddle.I find it an absolute miracle that you are able to admit this. I'm extremely impressed by you!From your reluctance to answer one of the most forward-non personal questions there is, I can only assume that you are a male and you realise how redicilous this makes your arguments in this thread look. No wonder, you are simply ashamed of it.
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Sports is to war as pornography is to sex. ― Jonathan Haidt 222 Posts 10/13
Posted - Aug 23 2014 : 11:51AM
Uh, no. The facts of this case means the facts that pertain to this case and no other case. That's pretty clear.
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Posted - Aug 23 2014 : 11:55AM
Do me a favor will you? Call me a dickhead, douchebag, pinhead, idiot, or any other name you want, I don't care, but please don't ever lump me in with anyone who is remotely racist, even if I'm hiding behind a nom de plume such as Rosco Fuji. I find racism AND forced tolerance extremely ignorant and offensive.
Since you quoted ME , maybe you shouldn't talk about tiny minds , you know posts can be edited ,what is not related can be removed or you can bold what is actually related to your answer , since you didn't any of those very elementary things ,nor you mentioned the one you were referring to so it is assumed you referred your reply to the whole quote , and that included me This post I'm partially quoting demonstrate that you are able to edit and refer posts partially and whole So the rest of your condescending auto referred post can be dismissed easily you're not the worthy debater you think you are EDIT Almost forgot , don't think for even a minute I didn't realize your post was meant to be offensive , fact is I am really above this , wouldn't fall so beneath my usual me Edited by - LCF on 8/23/2014 1:17:38 PM
What?? LOL, can somebody explain what this clown is trying to say exactly? You're all over the place and making zero sense, but I think you're trying still trying to claim that the post where I said 'you're no better than WM' was directed at you? It was on this page and I clearly quoted scope21, the poster with the joker avatar. https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/christy-mack/61 Christy Mack Get your eyes checked and go lick your wounds elsewhere. I've dimissed you, a male feminist extremist, with my previous post.
I replied to the post below since you are clearly failing to follow your own actions and thoughts I will bold the relevant part , you quoted ME ,see ? ME ! And your use of the word "feminist" the way you use it , basically an insult clearly speaks volumes about your actual attitude , you you had the wit I'd thought you were possibly the very ghost writer of WM speech in his blog , but apparently even him is too much to follow for you and you even dared to say to ME to learn to read and to fix my eyes , incredibleEdited by - LCF on 8/23/2014 4:20:48 PM
Most pornstars escort and that's no secret. Almost all of them do and Christy had a well known scumbag who just happens to be a millionaire hanging out in her place just by chance. Don't get me wrong he was " fully clothed " lol, but the whole thing is a bit off. Get well soon Christy
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Posted - Aug 24 2014 : 3:34PM
^Yes. According to the report Mr. Thomas identifies Christy as his girlfriend, but this is uncorroborated by Christy herself who describes Mr. Thomas as a friend while acknowledging that they have had sex in the past. On the night of the attack they were sleeping in the same bed. It seems to me that they are friends who've occasionally had sex, though clearly the borders of their relationship are hazy.
Or it means - hint hint - that the type of relationship simply *isn't relevant* at all, only that he isn't a stranger to Christy and had her permission to be there. "Cheating" or whatever simply won't come up at trial because it *don't* *matter* in any way in a battery/etc case like this. The judge won't allow WM to even bring it up. He might wish there was an excuse here, but there isn't.
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Posted - Aug 24 2014 : 4:53PM
If everybody who fucked mack is her boyfriend that would be alot of gifts on valentines day
WM said she was cheating on him implying that was the reason of his fury , but now we know that the other guy too thought he was in relationship with her Christy said she was in relationship with neither , WM dumped her in May walking away , she just fucked him after that , and also didn't state she was in relationship with the other guy , she just fucked him. so the "cheating" was all in WM mind I'm not saying a judge would allow this on trial, I'm just saying that a pity fuck can't be seen as relationship by anyone
Did i just read that War Machine was arrested after he beat the shit out of another woman who was with him in a hotel ? What the fuck is wrong with this guy
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Posted - Aug 24 2014 : 6:40PM
^If you read the same article I read, the article didn't say that "he beat the shit out of another woman." It said that he was seen yelling at another woman and pulling her hair, and the person who saw it called the police. From the article, I got the impression that the woman who called the cops didn't even know who War Machine was, or that he was wanted by the police. It sounds like she just called them because she was concerned about the incident she witnessed between War Machine and this other woman. This is why if you're a guy trying to hide from the police, causing a public spectacle in a hotel lobby in plain sight of other people is probably not the best idea. Another reason that this guy isn't too bright.
