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| StillHope Deactivated User "You didn't say Car Ram Rod" 149 Posts 2/06 | I am sad she even took it for 5 minutes, let alone 10. |
| bmnot Member I love interactive movies. 114 Posts 3/11 | The editing was weird, they must have had to cut a lot of stuff out so it wouldn't look criminal? I noticed her eyes were closed for the most part in the second half, i wonder if he told her to do that to hied the blood shot eye she had on her blog. That was a rough scene..damn. Well Max Hardcore is getting out soon, maybe the F.B. guys can take his place. |
| ClayraBeau Member 659 Posts 2/10 | http://clayrabeau.blogspot.com/2010/12/hard-city-indeed.html To be honest, I don't know if I can look at it without dredging up the fucked up feelings it gave me again. I'm all for some rough sex. I was happy with my scene for Public Disgrace, and I can't wait for Princess Donna to get back to the USA so I can get in on Bound Gang Bangs, but Facial Abuse was exactly what they say in the title: Abuse with a facial at the end. Frankly, I don't care how much you like rough sex, if you get off on FA scenes, I hope you realize you're getting off on one girl hating that she made the wrong choice, and a couple dudes having orgasms. For me, porn has ALWAYS been about people enjoying EACH OTHER, and even when it's just fantasy (yeah, some girls fake it) it is still a fantasy about PLEASURE. If you get off on beating people, you're a sick fuck. This isn't even a freedom of speech or "bad taste" issue. When people are getting hurt for real and NOT enjoying it at all, it isn't art or fantasy anymore, so fuck you for hiding your fucked up bullshit behind something so sacred as the First Amendment. It's not the same as Kink or typical BDSM sites. Or, in the words of D-FENS (from Falling Down), "We are not the same. I'm an American, you're a sick asshole". Okay, moving on, because I mostly have, here's a new blog updating everyone on what the hell is going on with me being retired or not: [invalid URL removed]http://clayrabeau.blogspot.com/2011/06/painting-porn-and-portal-2.html There's a couple newer pics there, and holy crap, I'm posting on a Tuesday! Well, I had another shoot Sunday in Chicago (and my shoot tomorrow is in Chicago as well. I hate the Kennedy), and I have some new pics! This photog likes to use wigs and wardrobe, so, no, my hair isn't this long :P TITS! (It's Tittytuesday after all). [Image not found DB] BOOTY! [Image not found DB] And, both. Kinda the obligatory porn pose, without the pink shot: [Image not found DB] Damn wig is falling off :P I've also posted some other pics from the same shoot here: http://clayrabeau.blogspot.com/2011/06/pics.html So, I hope everyone is getting into the summer season finally. I'm off to watch some Doctor Who and fuck my man, maybe at the same time ;) Thanks to everyone for the support, and I hope you dig the pics :) |
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| exlibris Member 26 Posts 1/11 | well...what can I say ? jerusalem my city |
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| StillHope Deactivated User "You didn't say Car Ram Rod" 149 Posts 2/06 | Moreover, these guys pride themselves on humiliating the actual girl, not the actresses within the scene. I mean, no matter how much research a model does, most of them that get the dreaded "dog dish dump of vomit" at the end clearly had no idea it was going to happen and are disgusted and freaked out to the point of tears. Perfect example, look at Nala's scene... Nala did everything they asked, including anal which she was obviously uncomfortable with...they lay her down, cum in her eyes so she can't see...she asks for a towel, and instead they dump a bowl of her own vomit from the scene on her...laugh at her while she walks away crying to the shower and then say to the camera..."That was awesome".... It wasn't about sub/dom sexual pleasure....it was about hurting a girl mentally, emotionally and degrading her physically to the point of mental breakdown so they could have a good laugh. Are there some girls that enjoy it...sure....but i would submit that the majority of the girls, especially the newbs...do not. I am no expert, but i am betting that if Clayra had guys there who she felt clearly respected her and wanted to make a good movie...she would have been more than willing to be even more submissive than she was. Willing submission beats "let's get this over with so I can go home because you guys are assholes" any day. |
| ClayraBeau Member 659 Posts 2/10 | Here's a handy tool in case you don't know the difference between what makes someone a sick fuck or not: Enjoy watching buildings explode and people get shot by terrorists in summer blockbusters? That's okay, because those people weren't actually shot or even harmed. Enjoy watching guys beat each other up in a wrestling, boxing, or MMA ring? That's okay too because the wrestling is staged and all have medical staff on hand to ensure the safety of the participants. Enjoy watching two or more people having crazy rough sex that includes slapping, degrading talk, and rough sex? If they're all consenting and no one ACTUALLY gets hurt, then that's okay too. I don't ACTUALLY go to bars and have sex in front of people, nor do I cruise the Glory Holes of LA. I've never ACTUALLY drowned in a bottomless pit of quicksand or clay, charged a dude (or dudes) less rent for fucking me (I'm not even a real estate agent), or shown up at the wrong hotel room and fucked the nerdy guy anyway. I'm not a real nurse, or cheerleader or super hero, and I hate to break it to you, but that isn't really Billy Watson I'm fucking over on MR. POV. Porn is fiction. It's fantasy. The sexual acts are real, but the scenarios are all set up and fake. No one actually gets hurt, abandoned by a van, tricked into doing a creampie, or is shooting a scene specifically to get back at a boyfriend or family member. In the FA scene, I really get hurt, by people that really don't give a fuck, and I really feared for my well being. It's not porn. It's not even entertainment. It's just straight up violence with no goal and some sex organs involved. Now, let's move along before you incite the mods to bring out the All Mighty Ban Hammer. Edited by - clayrabeau on 6/8/2011 3:16:33 PM |
| celluloidferox Senior Member @EmperorCorndog 1438 Posts 1/10 | Look at they way they describe their scene with Mackenzee Pierce: "Makenzee Pierce is a whore who made it out to the east coast to take a beating. Her little prissy face needed to be speckeled on because she has that girl next door look, but with a touch of cunt. She had a hot little body too. It was great to see this cute little piece of shit barf on a cock. She just looked so broken. When she took the loads to her face, she sat there mentally and physically trashed. It was a masterpiece." I like Mackenzee, and have been a fan of hers for a while now. She's a smart girl with a good business sense and she's an excellent performer. These dudes just regard her as a "cute little piece of shit" who they enjoy seeing "mentally and physically trashed". Fuck those Facial Abuse slugs. There is no defending them, and they deserve nothing less than to be gangraped in prison every day for the rest of their worthless lives. |
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| DonnyD Deactivated User 4 Posts 6/11 | A lawyer defending a web site that features the beating of homeless men by trained female fighters says the videos are more sexual than violent and by no means a hate crime. Shefights.net is now the target of a civil lawsuit alleging it promotes hate crimes and battery against homeless men by paying them a pittance for beatings and whippings portrayed in videos sold on the Internet. --- FORT MYERS, Fla. -- A Fort Myers mother says she feels powerless after her 11-year-old son was pinned down at his neck and stripped naked by two middle school girls. The boy begs the girls to stop as the rip off his bathing suit, leaving him naked lying on the ground. The title of the video, which was online for more than 24 hours, says the boy is getting "owned." The mother says Fort Myers police filled out a report but weren't much help at first. The officer "said he didn't know if there was a crime committed but said it looked like a prank." The police report taken Tuesday described the incident twice as a "prank" and says "police incident closed." "Nobody cares, nobody cares," the mother said. "If this was my son doing it to a little girl there would have been lights and sirens at my door." ---- Two points on these two examples, A) Women can get away with violence towards men and accuse of rape. B) Both of these stories were *real* vicitms..unless the FA guys are getting homeless women for $50 and beating them the way shefights does(i've seen a clip and it's on an order of magnitude worse than the roughest porn site, I don't see how it's even classified as porn) then you just had a bad experience and those 2 girls are *sick fucks* I would never do that to another person even as a prank, but if that was a prank then they might as well call Lara Logan assault a prank. |
| StillHope Deactivated User "You didn't say Car Ram Rod" 149 Posts 2/06 | "And now for something completely different..." I think if politics doesn't work for A. Weiner, he should just bang Clayra....I mean have you seen that dude's "jumbo heat" as Jon Stewart so aptly put it...and come on, his name is Weiner.... Oh...and Clayra's has a nice rack as well, but you all knew that. Seriously...before you respond, listen to this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCRkAbaQCdI |
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| twistedvincent Deactivated User Juelz....Fucking Juelz 3960 Posts 5/09 | I subscribed to a FA membership for a month after I saw that "name" pornstars such as Gina Lynn, Tori Lane, Mya Nichole(Mckay...one of my favorite stars), Amber Rayne etc... had done scenes for them. After seeing how INCREDIBLY rough the scenes actually were, I Googled interviews done with FA participants(over 225 scenes) and found surprisingly few negative "horror stories" such as yours. Don't get me wrong....what happened to you and other traumatized girls(I'm sure they're more)definitely sucks, but given the fact that they've been around since 2004 and have a huge subscriber base, they must be doing something right. I personally saw all I needed to see in a month. To me FA is pretty much a one trick pony....seen one, seen'em all. Edited by - twistedvincent on 6/9/2011 5:23:31 PM Edited by - twistedvincent on 6/9/2011 5:25:35 PM |
| ClayraBeau Member 659 Posts 2/10 | So, yeah, they've been around for 7 years and haven't been shut down, but you know what? Last I was out there, the word was that they were desperate for girls. That in spite of there being a handful of girls who said they enjoyed the experience, enough people were talking, and saying it wasn't worth the paycheck. Why do you think someone had to lie to me? Why do you think it took more than six months for my shoot with them to appear on the site? Negative publicity may not harm them directly, but the fact is, most girls won't want to risk their lives for the payday. Add to that that they really are a "one trick pony", and really, what are they going to do? What can they do "right"? Google "Clayra Beau Facial Abuse" and the first things that come up are my blog and this thread. The next few links are to Torrents of the scene. Soon enough, they'll run out of subscribers, and won't be able to offer the pay, and what will they be left with then? If you want to compare them to people, look at Billy Watson out in LA. Great guy, totally professional, and he treats people like they're human beings. He's an amazing guy, and I'd work with him for any of his sites in a heart beat. The same can be said for Kink.com. That company could teach the whole of the porn industry a thing or two about how to take care of themselves and the performers. Do both suffer piracy issues? Sure, but they have good karma on their side, if you believe in that kind of thing. Now, once again moving forward... Look at the pretty titties and let's talk about something else. Why is it that most porn seems geared toward "jock" guys? Ever notice that? You'd think they get laid enough, so why not market more porn to nerds! Instead of locker rooms and Jersey Shore-style beach houses, why aren't we shooting in comic shops or at gaming stores? [Image not found DB] [Image not found DB] |
| celluloidferox Senior Member @EmperorCorndog 1438 Posts 1/10 | I think porn should be catered to those most likely to watch it with some frequency (namely, guys like me), but there is also a visual style that is important to the heat of the scene, and that various by person. I never liked dungeons or locker rooms, but I do like the more decorative settings like the big houses and fancy hotel rooms. I think in a lot of ways it's equally as important as the costumes. If you're watching a scene where the girl is a cheerleader, then a locker room would make sense (although I think watching her get dicked under some bleachers would be much more interesting). A scene at a comic shop or game store doesn't sound interesting to me because it feels like to sterile of an enviroment. I like enviroments where you can practically smell the hormones radiating out of the performers. A game shop just makes me think of dumbass teenage boys, and I find nothing erotic about that. That's just my view on it though. Everybody sees it differently. |
| Mninblk7 Member My mind could be anywhere but I live in Wisconsin 51 Posts 11/10 | Your last sentence says it all as even in my corner everybody sees it differently. From my experience in my field of fetish I constantly see sales driven by a new face or loyalty to a producer but mostly they have in their mind what they want to see. For example I think what really sets my videos apart from the other producers in my fetish is that they will set up a scene with text then fade out and into the main sinking scene while I will shoot a few minuets extra to set it up with visuals. Many who buy mud/quicksand fetish videos do not care to see the set up. They only want to see the sinking. Well, as a movie maker to me that is boring as hell and because of that there is a portion of them that don't buy my videos. Now granted one may think that my little corner of the world is quite limited (a micro community compared to the porn community), and one would be correct. However I do have a following that give feedback that I have the most interesting and original videos of my fetish because they are for the most part story driven with as much production values as I can afford. Sales definitely increase with a new pretty face but in the end it is very much like the "mainstream" porn industry where man(men) meets woman, woman gets fucked, both(all) have a great time. The majority of buyers in my fetish don't give a rats ass about the story, production values, etc... and only care to see the new girl go into the mud. I suspect it may be the same in the porn industry. So of course it takes a producer willing to risk sales to make their own vision come alive instead of churning out the same old, same old. Robert [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/12/2011 3:21:55 PM |
| ClayraBeau Member 659 Posts 2/10 | For me (maybe all women) the set up is a big part of it. In the porn I read, it's usually a young woman who gets caught doing something "naughty" and then she goes into the sex scene as a result. On video, I enjoy well done interviews. Some of the old Ed Powers stuff I've seen, half the time the only reason to watch the scene is that the girl was interesting in the interview. With Kink, I think it's even more important. Seeing a smiling girl before and after lets you know she was okay during the shoot. A lot of girls I know have control fantasies, but never get close to playing with them because they don't want it to be "actually" dangerous, they just want it to be for fun, and Kink gets that. Mind you, I won't complain about good sets in a million years, but I do get bored with the same kinds of locations being used over and over sometimes and kinda long for something "native". An art gallery, a dark theater after a play, and yes, a comic shop or two :) I know location isn't everyone's thing, but I think that where porn fails sometimes is in exciting the most important erogenous zone: the mind. What kinds of locations would make porn immediately more interesting for you guys? [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/12/2011 3:23:06 PM |
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| ClayraBeau Member 659 Posts 2/10 | I think they ARE marketing to "nerds", but the fact is, nerds rule the world anyway. Look at the major blockbusters, and the TV shows with the most loyal fans, and you'll find the power of nerds. The parody stuff is okay, but a lot of time it's also very cheesy. What gets me hot isn't cheesy plot lines though, but plausible scenarios. I go to comic shops and gaming stores, and there's always that girl or two who seems slightly out of place because it's a sausage party. The operative words there though are "girl", "sausage" and "party". Just like the idea of two people fucking under crowded bleachers is plausible, but unlikely, so is a girl getting banged by the three guys and other girl at the comic shop. I don't know, maybe comic shops are just harder to come by as far as sets go, or maybe porn is mostly made by guys who have never set foot in a shop, even though the girls they shoot are there. I mean, it's not just me, but Misti Dawn, April O'Neil, and a bunch of other "nerd girls" in the industry, so why not make the most of it? :) |
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| jpfan Member 112 Posts 7/10 | And as for the nerd comments. I agree. I love smart sexy nerd girls. I think this should be the new wave in porn. Clayra Beau, Misti Dawn, etc. I mean, does the porn industry even begin to understand it's audience. Most of us are nerds. We love nerdy girls because they sexy, and also smart. The days of dumb fake bimbo porn girls is over. This is the new paradigm. Smart, tech savvy, nerd porn stars. |
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| melt Pornstar Diplomat The pride of Manchester 3763 Posts 1/09 | Blue hair would be a lot better. You look great with the new do Clayra but I honestly prefer you as a blonde.....what can I say I have always been a sucker for hot sexy and intelligent blondes. United have been buying wisely but the most difficult man to replace is going to be their stalwart goal-keeper. Edwin was exceptional and without him United may not be as defensively solid as they were last season. Heres hoping anyway. |
| ClayraBeau Member 659 Posts 2/10 | @El Jefe Holy crap, Hernandez is AMAZING! We can lose Berbatov if we need to, because Chicharito makes up for him a million ways. It was hard watching the Gold Cup final because I want to cheer for the USA, but Hernandez is too good. We couldn't deal with him if we wanted, and believe me, we wanted. @HST, Dogfart, Pat Thanks for the compliments! @Jonny Definitely an increase. The best description I can give that you might understand (because you lack the parts) is that my magic wand became more powerful. Mine, like most, has two settings: Fast, and REALLY fast. With the piercing, "Fast" feels like "REALLY fast", and "REALLY FAST" feels like "HOLY SHIT!". Things like oral and vaginal sex also get bonuses too, and I'm one of those who is already REALLY satisfied with my home sex life, so it takes something crazy for "Great" to get any better. It goes from "BEST" to "BESTEST", maybe? In my case, I have a clitoral hood piercing, and if you know a woman who is considering it, drop her off at your best local piercer NOW! :) @Melt Oh, Melt, what will I do with you? Wait, don't answer that :) You're right. For all the spending we do, it'll be for nothing if we can't find a keeper at least half as good as Edwin. That said, Rio and Vidic have our back line, so we can afford to sign someone half as good, and that's the silver lining. And now, pics! First some booty [Image not found DB] And then the top-heavy bits :) [Image not found DB] [Image not found DB] |
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