It sounds like you are talking about Evan Stone but not sure if he's done any newer stuff with Rocco so I may be wrong and I really don't know if his cock is tiny or not either b/c Evan is one that I cannot bring myself to watch. Not sure what it is about Evan Stone but I can't do it and he's EVERYWHERE.
"Not to mention, guys like Dirty Harry fucked Sasha Gray and got a check for for it. I hardly think they either a) care or b) need your protection." Yeah ol harry with Sasha grey, that was my fav scene indeed. Real creepy. Other then dat, if u guys wanna see more filth or creety stuff my Harry, watch Lana Croft with Dirty Harry in "Anal full Nelson" or Seira Sinn with Harry in "Tough Love" or with alicia angel in "faces down asses high" . These scenes, to me are the crepiest scenes i ever saw i guess.
Even Dirty harry latest flick with bomb missy stone "Young And Anal 37", that is creepy too, like making a chick sit in waiting, going to his office and jerking thinking of her and then she catches u doing that lol. CRAZY STUFF
@sweetbbw: Thanks! I didn't know Evan Stone before, but I've checked some pics. Well, that's a creep! lol But that's not the guy I meant. :( Back on topic: --> Manuel Ferrara reminds me of a lunatic sometimes. Don't let this good looking guy fool you! ;) --> Nacho is completly nuts IMHO. Night of the living baseheads.
To avoid any controversy or possible insult to the many talented actors working in X rated, I'll offer up Dale Meador as perhaps the creepiest character actor who ever appeared in X rated films. Although his performances were usually restricted to small or supporting roles, Dale was perfectly cast as numerous creeps, weirdos, and eccentrics. His roles were also non sex, save for his gut wrenching scene which opens The Resurrection of Eve as he manipulates supposedly 12 year old Nancy Weich into giving him a blowjob. For a (not so great) picture, check here: http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=DMeador/gender=m/Dale-Meador.htm
[mod edit: DarkPlaces, I told everyone in my post above to drop the discussion with Macko69. Thanks.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 3/15/2009 12:54:26 AM
LOL, :lol: the underscore got me too. good job. and as for my opinion, there's that one guy in the anal creampie movies with the braids in his grey beard. i don't pay too much attention to the guys usually, but his beard grates on me.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Mar 15 2009 : 3:55AM
For classic porn Jamie Gillis (Waterpower), Zebedy Colt (Sex Wish) and George Payne (Taming of Rebecca) were the kings of creepy when called upon. Back then though they could also play it charming (Gillis in The Opening of Misty Beethoven) or naive (Payne in The Backrow).
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Posted - Mar 15 2009 : 6:04AM
How about Rick Savage, he was in mainstream porn in the 80s and 90s and I didn't like him, very creepy, but now he and his stuff is now even more creepier. I love tits, I like them playfully squeezed, slapped and jiggled. The stuff Mr Savage dishes out hurts the girls tits and it hurts to watch them accepting the pain for his money in a non sexual way, that is ultra creepy.
^^^even better (e.g. creepier) Hershel Savage or Dirty Harry
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Posted - Mar 15 2009 : 9:47AM
Dear killbill69, I do not understand why some forum members take it so seriously, but I think we shall be free talking negative things about male performers beside positives. We sometimes judge female pornstars more harder than males. Anyway thanks for your handling for this issue as a moderator.
Heard dat. My very first encounter with Gillis was The Passions of Carol where he was just an all out sweetheart. Next came Dracula Exotica and Roommates...geez. He is really scary - but awesome. This doesn't really apply to the OP though, seeing as I love Jamie Gillis - he's acting, and it's clear.
This sounds like Jean Valjean. I love that guy. He's a major pervert, plus I think he's good looking and his dick's a manageable size. He's perfect for me. As for my pick, I can't believe anybody hasn't mentioned Evan Seinfeld/Spyder Jones. He markets himself as "The Rock Star Pimp," and his box covers are just plain weird. He's got this pose in which he stretches his penis across a girls eyes, like a blindfold. What's that even supposed to mean? At first he just appeared in all of Tera Patrick's movies. Now he's got his own company, "Iron Cross," and his "Smokin' Hot" series is all about him using his connection to Tera to bang newbies. What's creepy about it, is that the marketing is all about him and his marriage, not the girls. Edited by - pagoda on 3/16/2009 2:48:13 PM
Yo Harri! That's him! Jean Val Jean. He reminds of that young menacing guy from Kurt Russel's "Breakdown", the one with the red muscle car. This movie was surprisingly chilling for me. Thanks for your help, Harri!
Agreed. I guess there are two ways to answer this question: a) creepy, as in the person seems creepy in real life, and therefore undesirable in the scene, or b) plays creepy roles and does it really well (a la Jamie Gillis), and therefore super cool (depending on how you watch porn).
I have a hard time finding "creepy" to be a negative trait for a male porn star. When most porn is running with the idea that the dirty old man is supposed to be tricking the naive college girl into doing nasty things with him, this can only be a positive. It either turns you on or it doesn't. Obviously, a guy who really does give off a creepy vibe no matter what he does isn't going to fit too well into a scene where he isn't supposed to be a dirty old man.
Yeah, but there's good creepy and bad creepy. Brandon Iron's creepy, but in the awesomest possible way. Dirty Harry, Ramon (what a hideous monster) and Talon are great picks. Talon in particular freaks me out - he looks exactly like Mario Cantone (gay comic/actor) and his weird Joker mouth is super distracting. Just can't watch the guy. Steve Holmes is an all-time favorite of mine and I've loved so much of his work, but he can be super creepy at times. There was a period a couple years back where he was rocking this long-haired, bearded look that was unsettling. And then later on he switched it up with FROSTED TIPS, which was even worse. (John Strong followed suit, and it was also creepy when he did it.) Brian Surewood's weird L.A. gypsy-hippie-stoner look has always skeeved me out, if he just shaved and got a haircut he seems like he'd be a good-looking guy and not some weird porn-hobo who wandered in from the Altamont Speedway circa 1969. Marcos Banderas is a good looking guy with a good body, but something about him is just gross to me. I think it's the combination of him always looking like he's been oiled up + the single hoop earring + slicked back hair and unnaturally white, toothy smile - he's like porn's latin, roided up George Hamilton. Kurt Lockwood had a great, kinda boyish & shaggy look when he first came out, but now his hairline is evaporating and he's still trying to pull off the floppy-haired hipster stuff. Not a good look at all, get it cropped short or shave your head dude. Also please stop having girls finger your asshole.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 2:50AM
Steve usually doesn't strike me as creepy, more goofily happy to be fucking the girls, but I saw a Public Disgrace episode where he had longer hair and was unshaven and had this odd smile on the whole time he trooped the girl around the city. Strange but fascinating.
What Kirsten Price is doing to her face creeps the fuck out of me. The bumps all over Kristina Rose's face make her totally unwatchable. I tried and I just can't. She seems like a cool person and a good performer and I want her to paint me a watercolor, but it still creeps me out. Like what is going on with her face?! And everything about Dana DeArmond creeps me out. I won't elaborate. That would be cruel. Although getting rid of the stringy brown hair really helped her look a lot. (btw, good job salvaging this thread. It's now reading as creepy=good as opposed to how it started and why only one person saw it as insulting blows my mind. I hope you get my point without me having to spell it out, kb.)
^ Bumps on my face, hummmmm? I'm a little unsure about what you are talking about. The only thing I could think of is maybe the mild case of acne I had acquired a while back due to working so much and having my make-up done almost every day. All this of which has been cleared up for months and months. Wasn't this a thread about creepy male performers? And as for my girl Dana, she is sexy, smart and nothing but funny hot and beautiful. Sounds to me like someone needs to get their vision checked. I understand that I'm not going to be everyones flavor, but really.....Why pick on people for things they have no control over? It's not only rude, crule and insensitive but it also makes you look kinda silly and foolish. There's nice ways to say things and a prick way to say things. I think you know which way you went.
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Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 8:57AM
I really can't see how you can justify saying that last statement "...good job salvaging this thread. It's now reading as creepy=good as opposed to how it started and why only one person saw it as insulting blows my mind", whilst saying what you did about Kristina Rose and Dana DeArmond (neither whom have anything to do with the topic of the thread anyway). A phrase involving "glass houses", "stones" and "throwing" comes to mind. Edited by - Dubious_Leftovers on 3/18/2009 8:59:24 AM
Wow - it took longer than I expected for someone to chime in about how rude it was when I wrote about a female performer creeping me out. Just insert a male's name in place of the females I wrote about and you have what offended that Mack guy towards the beginning of this thread. Yet no one else, not even a moderator, found it offensive when people started to write insulting things about guy's bodies. In fact, people even argued in FAVOR of being offensive, stating that as a performer you put yourself up for ridicule and being scrutinized. People have used that argument before as defense for their mean comments about female performers and they are usually blasted down by their peers, the moderators and the Head Janitor. It's a double standard. Period. The end. Final. And this thread should have been closed, IMHO. I've been here for over 2 years. I rarely if ever write anything blatantly rude about a performer. It was all done to prove a point. And don't think it was a mistake that I picked two girls who are also regular participants on ADT forum. Peace out.
Aw fuck, now I'm in trouble again. :(I most certainly do Savoy. Point taken. And a big boo to me. I already expressed my dissatisfaction for this thread. Please do not let it be said by anyone that I think, or at any point thought, this thread to be a good idea. _____ Shit my folks just called and I have to go meet them RIGHT NOW. More later.
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Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 12:05PM
Why should it be closed, because you don't like what is being said? Critiquing performers on the silver screen/small screen is part of showbusiness, porn or otherwise. It's not Show Friendship, comments are going to be blunt and to the point. It's what happens the minute a person decides they want to be a star. You can't have the good without the bad. At no point does a performer, whether it be mainstream or porn, have an issue with too much good publicity, too many compliments, or forcing their opinion down the public's throat.
I absolutly don't like to call any female pornstar creepy or whatever, I'll only make one exception: Chloe's eye rolling thing scared the shit out of me back in the days. It was just like "The Excorcist" ... Back on topic: Bruce7 was VERY creepy rolling around in his wheelchair in the background while Debbie Diamond & Co. used gallons of baby oil in front of a japanese paravent. P.S. Omar Galanti is the ruler!
And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09
Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 12:13PM
To be fair, all I did was react to to the (what turned out to be deliberate) disparity within your own post; you made one set of statements, than another totally contrasting one. All I asked for was the reasoning behind it. I wasn't actively defending anyone male or female. As it transpired, it was an elaborate plan to try and prove the notion of double standards. It's an interesting overall point, and if a topic raises questions such as this, doesn't it give validity to the importance of edgier discussion?
@Savoy: Ok I'm back. As I was saying, I have no love for this thread, but that's not the only criterion by which I must decide if a thread is to be locked. Many other things went into my decision; the main three of which I listed above. (In fact it's probably #3 from that post that had the largest influence on my decision, since it factored in decisions made by people with far more mod experience than myself.) Having said that, I appreciate your concerns and I recognize that this perhaps requires more thought; so I have sought outside counsel as I feel I'm in over my head (I prefer admitting that and getting it right to being too proud and getting it wrong).
Very interesting turn of events, here. I'll be watching this thread to see what happens. To me, creepiness is about behavior, not appearance. There are a lot of male performers that don't float my boat in the looks department, but have grown on me because of the outstanding way they treat the girls in their scenes. The opposite is true for me. If I find a guy visually appealing (say from a still photo) and he comes off as a complete douche in a scene, I'll never watch him again.
Actually, I did find this thread offensive but didn't say anything because I figured it would blow up into a big stink. Which is why I simply said that I didn't see why it was really so bad if some of the guys do look or seem a bit odd. I do think it's as inappropriate to say these things about the guys as it is about the girls.
No matter what size the tits are....play with them.... 732 Posts 12/08
Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 6:00PM
cankles wrote: Steve Holmes - There was a period a couple years back where he was rocking this long-haired, bearded look that was unsettling. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ This must of been Steve's West coast (yes I've still got all my hair, and yes, I can grow it at my age) older surfer dude look. Probably Latched on to that look after to many visits to Venice Beach. The probable reason he cut his hair and beard is that he didn't want to be confused with Brian Surewood............. Only joking Steve, your the main man, as I said before You do it the way I would do it. Keep up the good work Steve and don't work with any of the above to ensure a large audience....J.
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Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 6:09PM
Several people have mentioned Ramon from bangbus, how about Preston? He's a good performer, good size dick, really good loads, but the scenes in bangbus when he's just talking to random people on the street he's outright creepy. That said, I enjoy his scenes...he is funny, and he performs well.
Heard dat. The idea that porn is about guys luring young girls to have sex, as someone on here suggested, is not true of all porn, nor is it the reason all people watch porn - this is clear just from reading this forum. I'm thinking "creepy" was not necessarily the best word choice for the OP, seeing as it's so ambiguous. If we're talking about poor treatment of the girls in the scene, I don't see a problem with pointing it out - in fact, we most certainly should be pointing it out. Likewise, if the actor is trying to be creepy (e.g. Jamie Gillis), then of course I would hope his effort went noticed - we should point it out and say good job. Picking on some dude who is "creepy" but otherwise a seemingly nice guy, and is not intending to be a creep - I can see why people object to this, especially when it centers around physical details.
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Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 7:09PM
Ultimately, this comes back to the whole reason why porn is watched in the first place - it is a purely visual medium, and basically its sole purpose is to sexually get the viewer off (people who watch features may argue, so as to not open that can of worms I'll stick to Mainstream-Heterosexual-Gonzo as the case in point). If the subject of gender double standards comes up, it comes back to the inherent double standard that straight porn is watched for the women. It is they who are on the covers (covers alone are an artform - check Elegant Angel within the last few years). Nowhere are men featured on these because the male's purpose within this industry is different to that of the female's. The main double standard is the guy's are paid a lot less but have greater longevity. This is because the viewer doesn't tune in to specifically see the guy; his presence is that of vicarious viewer penis. Your favourite boxcover girl could in effect, be paired with anyone that they could get on that day. This is bound to cause some reaction within the viewer positive or not. It's the old argument that anti-porn people use saying that porn is objectifying. Well it effectively is, it's designed to appease a base desire in the most visually pleasing way. Therefore the criteria for watching on behalf of the viewer are naturally imbalanced in regards to male and female performers. It's these kind of issues that naturally get raised, which I'd use as defense to stop potentially contentious threads from closing down before they run their course. Silly topics can become quite interesting. Edited by - Dubious_Leftovers on 3/18/2009 7:10:55 PM
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Posted - Mar 18 2009 : 8:02PM
I, Jettyman started this thread a couple of months ago: Ugh! I cant watch her now. After the negative responses on Tony T the performer in my last post on Star Crossed, I would like to raise another issue. One of your favorite female porn stars is appearing in a new movie shot by a top studio, you eagerly wait for the release only to find out she has been paired up with a male performer you really dislike. Do you watch and cringe or do you fast forward and just catch snapshots of her while you spit feathers. Lots of studio's don't list the male performers and almost never list pairings, I find this frustrating as much as I have my favorite female stars, I also have my favorite male performers. Do any of you guys out there have any male performers you can't watch? if so who? ______________________________________________________________________________________________ I think we all have performers we like or dislike, but like it or not if the male star "yes star" (sex is a two or more way thing and it needs the best m/f stars) is not up to the job, a scene with a top babe is ruined and you may never re-watch the scene. We the buyers deserve to know who's fucking who, you wouldn't buy a ready meal without a list of ingredients, we want to know what we are eating. I need to know if some creepy, not favored or useless twat of a male performer (in my opinion) is fucking my favorite babe, if one of them is, then I'M NOT INTRESTED in buying. I'm sure that the last remark is why most studio's don't list m/f pairings, they would lose the sale of units to fickle porn watchers like me. They attract most by using an airbrushed babe on the box cover and tell us how hot the scenes are.
I did find the thread a bit offensive. People talk shit about celebrities (both big and small) all the time so it's not a surprise that porn folk would be the victims of this too. At the same time, I don't think any actor or actress has been personally insulted by any of the comments made here (personal ridicule, of course, is not OK unless you know the person and have reason to dislike them, but even then it's a private matter, not one for a discussion forum). I do like the fact that the thread has kinda been transformed from being statements of dislike towards actors to complimenting them on their abilities to play creepy characters. So, to that extent, I don't think the thread should be closed.
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Posted - Mar 14 2009 : 10:58AM
