Well, here's a quote from you from a while back -I wouldn't expect someone who finds the vast majority of men "disgusting" to find this one any different. Sounds like you just don't like men. Which is fine (I firmly believe we all have a right to our own individual pathologies) but your opinion is hardly objective here. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/6/2010 7:42:07 AM
Rocco, Creepy? LMAO. He is far from that. Random is right, the Rocster is well known in europe and a celebrity in Italy. The guy makes potato chips commercials, olive oil, has been on the cover of them romantic novels for them ladies (this one, for example): Wouldnt happen if women thought of him as a creep! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocco_Siffredi Yes, rocco appeared in some mainstream flicks, one with cathrine breillat(Romance): Rocco vs caroline ducey (in romance): http://www.adultpichost.eu/filestore/04/945ZxOqmgX.11260_7.jpg._ From what I've read, female performers consider(ed) him one of the more model looking male performers. Build like a boxer. Also, if you look at his older (Italian) work, you can clearly see that the girls enjowy working with him. Okay, he is a bit rough and some of these girls might think he has a cock that is too big too handle, but you can clearly see that they like how he looks....even if he is older now w/ receding hairlines. ....Nothing like ed powers or max hardcore, Rofl.
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Posted - Aug 6 2010 : 10:34AM
Any bodybuilder-type male. I don't mean Rocco or Manuel. Just the Schwarzenegger-wannabees out there are just a no-go. Edited by - schmse on 8/6/2010 10:36:51 AM
I seem to be alone in finding Rodney Moore the creepiest man in porn. Oh, the guy who was the lead in the vintage movie "Kneel before me" George Payne. Edited by - ntfighter on 8/6/2010 6:20:03 PM
For those who are enjoying this thread, how about a challenge? How about naming some male performers you DON'T find creepy? I'm sorry. If Marco Banderas is creepy, you might as well stop watching porn. I can't think of anyone as uncreepy as Marco.
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Posted - Aug 7 2010 : 11:01PM
Young Rocco was far from creepy.
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Posted - Aug 8 2010 : 12:46AM
If someone is creepy, it doesn't necessarily mean they are ugly. It has a totally different meaning. If someone gets under your skin or makes you uncomfortable by their actions then they can be called creepy. To me the way Nacho Vidal or Rocco treats some women is what makes them creepy, disgusting and obnoxious.
How do you know some women don't like it? Is it still creepy if the woman wants it? I suggest you spend some time watching some Kink.com scenes. You can't necessarily judge whether they do or not by how they appear in the video. Some women like to be pushed beyond their limits and they're not going to be smiling or appearing to have a good time when that happens. I'm not saying this is always the case. Some women have apparently been rather upset with Rocco for various things. Many more have never complained. So I dunno. A man is not creepy just because he likes rough sex. Would you say a woman who likes to rough men up is creepy? Probably not. What if she liked cock and ball torture? Would that be creepy? Probably not to most people. Why not? What's different? Edited by - randomprecision on 8/8/2010 4:02:37 AM
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Posted - Aug 8 2010 : 4:43AM
I said 'young Rocco.' You comments show that you haven't seen any of his early films. Rocco's early films with John Stagliano and his European features are not particularly rough, he was easily the biggest male star in the late 80s and 90s and attracted the attention of a lot of female viewers. Edited by - BlackSix on 8/8/2010 4:44:54 AM
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Posted - Aug 8 2010 : 5:55AM
Rocco and Nacho take every sexual energy out of a girl. Rocco is a positive sexual frak. He fuck the girls just like he wants. Just watched a scene of "Rocco's Psycho Love" where he fucks the hot Romanian baldy girl C.J. really hard. He really drains out every sexual energy out of this girl. Pushing her to the limit. That's not creepy. If you ever would've watched some Behind the Scenes stuff you'd know that he cares for the girls and actually is a really nice guy. Nacho Vidal on the other side seemed really to be over the top sometimes. At least to me he sometimes must have been on coke. Just went crazy from time to time. Maybe that's why he ain't appearing in Rocco's movies anymore (since at least 2002 or so).
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Posted - Aug 8 2010 : 6:06AM
I guess you're referring to the Roxy jezel ncident in Ibiza. I really like Roxy and she's one of my all time favourites. But, let's face it, she's a submissive slut. Rocco may have thought he found a new Kelly Stafford or something. He was rough and too big for her. But I found her Gangbang Auditions scene more disturbing. There she seemed to pass out at some point, after some guy was choking her while another fucked her in the ass. Whatever. I just think, that rocco is not creepy at all. Wether in the 90s nor now.
What happened BTW, as to the reason that Nacho hasn't performed in any of rocco's recent movies, l think it's more likely that nacho is the one who wants to concentrate to making it on his one. I read somewhere (I think on this forum) that rocco supposedly said that nacho has been his protogé regarding this rough niche, that he liked to see nacho becuming his successor, but that nacho decided to step out of the shadow of rocco to make his own movies and productions. (tranny and homo porn being one of them, the latter of which rocco doesnt want to be assosiated with). Edited by - adt44 on 8/8/2010 1:03:26 PM
Schmse wrote:Schmse, I'm curious give me a moment of you time. I hear this regularly."Pushing her to the limit." Do you mean tire her, push her to the pain or pleasure limit or something else?
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Posted - Aug 9 2010 : 1:57AM
Rocco's like a sexual vampire. He sucks out every sexual energy out of a girl, just to the point before she cannot take it anymore and would pass out. It may sometimes include pain, but everytime pleasure. He's rough but never as degrading as max Hardcore or the Meatholes guys. "Pushing her to the limit" means to me, that a girl couldn't say "Fuck me! Fuck me harder!" anymore. And sometimes beyond.
That blonde biker wanna be douche bag w/ the bandana that abuses a lot of girls.He looks like a serial killer ( NO offense meant to serial killers BTW )
Slightly off topic, Dan O'Connell of GFF is becoming a contender for creepiest director and studio owner. He has a preference for blackmail and coercion stories. Is that creepy? Many of his videos are. He has a tendency to fire staff without warning. There is also the question of how many squirting scenes are faked with urine, without warning or the consent of the scene partner to be pissed on.
That dude who shoots the water/flour mixture out of his 2 foot fake dick. I don't know who this is for or what the fetish is. I don't get it. And that freaks me out.
Somebody is watching. There is also a "surprise" or "sneak attack" cumshot site that is very much fake dick/supersoaker cumshots on "unsuspecting" victims. And I find those really funny to be honest. Not stroking material. But enjoyable, I crack up and send links to the good ones to all my pervert friends.
I know he doesn't perform anymore, but Ed Powers was just gross in that super creepy bar guy way, he shot an crap load of girls but he was hard to watch with that big pasty ass in the camera and that pony tail. He got more than I ever could imagine but I actual felt bad for the guy.
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Posted - Aug 31 2010 : 11:25AM
What's your criteria for creepy? Does it mean "unattractive?" Listen, Ed Powers is my man, and right next to him was late great David Aaron Clark. Both of them regular looking to not so attractive guys. Honestly, I don't know why straight guys need to be overly concerned about how guys look in straight porn? Seriously, these perfect looking WeHo Billboard type, roid rocking, indoor sun tan looking dudes give me the creeps. Also, creepy for me was the recently retired and now a minister Rod Fontana. I'm not sure if creepy is the right word, maybe annoying. Back to Ed, y'all go easy on him. Ed is cool and if you meet him in person he's a smart guy, very little to no ego & genuine. I had the pleasure of chatting with him for 30-45 minutes at an AVN and he couldn't have been a cooler guy. Ron Jeremy is in the same ball park. Since DAC is now where the good spirits go he is the one porn dude that would be cool to shoot the shit with and have a beer. Now Rod Fontana....that's creepy.
Disagree: Ed Powers is the worst of Woody Allen coupled with George Costanza. But I agree with you on Rod, I think he stapled the same toupee to his head that George Costanza did on Seinfeld.
I guess I have a hard time seeing any dude as creepy as long as what he's doing is consensual. Generally speaking, you'll never see the truly creepy guys showing their faces in a thousand porn flicks for the world to see. Just because a dude is ugly, that's not creepy. I'm ugly. Most of the men I've known in my life were ugly bastards. I like to see ugly, bald, fat, hairy dudes get laid. As long as they have the right equipment for the job and don't have wood problems, so much the better. That's what porn is all about. Every ugly dude in the world wishes he could fuck hot chicks. Most "creepy" men aren't creepy at all. They just have that vibe about them and there's really nothing they can do about it. They're the same as the ugly dudes (they're usually "ugly" and "creepy"). They all wish they could fuck the hot chicks. Ed Powers is a prime example. He's the kind of guy who could probably get his fair share of tail in the right places even outside of porn but more than likely, most women would be totally turned off by him. Porn chicks don't care. They might be a little put off by a guy like Ed right at the gates of pornoland but once they've been around a while, I can't imagine they much care. They could do a lot worse (Someone like Max). I haven't seen a lot of Ed's scenes but the ones I have seen, the girls didn't seem to mind. They didn't look put off or creeped out at all. The only reason I avoided watching Ed was the condom thing. That's just a deal breaker. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/31/2010 1:00:01 PM
He is perfect for the scene in YA 39 where he is jerking off to cute Tara LYnn Fox and she takes him in the ass. This Tara Lynn Fox is quite the little fetching buttslut.
As I've said before, my mailman is a nice guy too, but I don't want to see his ugly ass fucking a hot young girl either. And it's not Ed's look that makes him creepy, it's the "do you find older men attractive" thing he always did and when he tried to kiss girls who clearly didn't want to be kissed and his sometimes desperate need to liked by girls who are clearly trying to be professional and just do the scene. But even he pales compared to Pierre Woodman, who made the girls do things they wouldn't even have to do in his films like internal cumshots and swallowing his load. Imagine that first day on the actual set when she finds out that almost never happens but she had to do in her "private casting" session with Pierre. Now that's creepy. Not to mention they're both paying, while actual performers are getting paid.
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Posted - Sep 1 2010 : 4:14AM
So Torris you're equating looks and age with creepiness which is fine, I think creepiness is behavior or the "role" played. For example, while I like much of his early to mid 1990s stuff, Max is an older guy who qualifies as creepy in my book with the medical instrument degradation and urination etc. Its consensual and the ladies sign the contract and perform, but the image he projects putting forceps in someone' s mouth while urinating.....that shit is creepy! But the older guys like Guy DeSilva (lots of stuff just IAFD him), Brian Surewood (many David Aaron Clark projects), Dave Cummings (who used to be a USAF officer in SD, CA) are older but totally well-adjusted cats able to handle their business with any number of women young, old, skinny, BBW. They are more like regular guys and thus as Random Precision says in this thread its nice to see them get the "girl" because otherwise they'd be on the bottom of the food chain. So creepy for me is about behavior not age & looks, in fact unless you are just seriously laying the pipe like Manuel F or Justin Slayer or Sledgehammer "perfect specimen types" are a huge distraction. One of the reason's i don't like alot of the Evil Angel stuff, it becomes about them and not the ladies which is what I'm buying/renting the dvd for in the first place! All that said.....I'm glad to see we agree on Rod Fontana, its his behavior that bugs me he's like a cross between a biker thug and a WWE wrestler (a lot of "fake" in that dude). I read a review here in ADVD Talk where someone correctly and humorously described him as "the old man that plagues these things..." This reviewer was on point!
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Posted - Sep 1 2010 : 4:16AM
RandomPrecision you are the man and spot on! I agree with you sir....right on for the regular guys! I used to own a lot of Ed Powers stuff, had to shed much of my collection & kept only the Max essentials and the ones I dumped usually had condom use. Gotta use 'em in real life, but don't want to see 'em in my fantasy life man!
I've been reading 'The Forum' for a while. This is my first post. Since Jamie Gillis is such a good actor, how would anyone one know when he was acting and when wasn't? Maybe his 'good guy' was an act and being a creep wasn't an act at all.
Rebecca, welcome to the forum! Now to answer your question, by all accounts that I've read over the years everyone who ever knew and worked with the late Jamie Gillis have said what a nice guy he was in real life and I've haven't seen anything credible to the contrary. Of course he being a pioneer of the adult business and being involved in it's inception I'm sure there are those who didn't care for his work and prolly found him very unattractive and repulsive, especially in the extreme roles he often portrayed. But just cuz Jamie may have seemed incredibly creepy in a few of his movies doesn't make him a bad guy. After all, Sir Anthony Hopkins actually won an Oscar for his portrayal of a cannibalistic serial killer in The Silence Of The Lambs. Edited by - Asmodeus on 9/2/2010 3:30:53 AM
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Posted - Sep 2 2010 : 9:53AM
I agree with you about the acting and attractiveness vs. creepiness issue. Also I'm very sad about his passing, I didn't catch that and I missed that one. Sad. Jeez, David Aaron Clark and Jamie Gillis within 4 months of each other. Its pretty cool that he was a Columbia alum & that Jeremy was an NYU alum helps break up any of those "dumb porn guy" stereotypes. Hope you're enjoying yourself wherever you are Jamie!
"I know his friends and family love him and all, but I experienced him as, frankly, a jerk who enjoyed pushing limits to the point of inducing really unpleasant feelings in the women with whom he worked. I've called him the original sick puppy, one of the 3 most jaded people I ever worked with in this business, and that's saying a lot." Nina Hartley 02-21-2010
that guy who does a lot of the cuckold stuff for kickass pictures - skinny, bald with mustache woops - i guess hes on here already - dirty harry Edited by - palominorn on 9/2/2010 2:15:43 PM
I used to think that I didn't like to watch Brian Surewood, but then I watched him fuck Lexi Belle and Christina Agave and I changed my mind. He fucking hammers Lexi Belle. Same with Agave. And both girls open wide for him at the end and look him dead in the eyes when he's spritzing.
Posted - Aug 6 2010 : 7:40AM
Also, if you look at his older (Italian) work, you can clearly see that the girls enjowy working with him.
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