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| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 |  Posted - Mar 19 2013 : 8:40PMOh yeah...I don't know if I can say it's true but Gina Lynn said she the one that made it acceptable for A-list girls to do IR when she did her DARKSIDE movie. That might be pushing it. I'd say she helped it along but I don't think she was a major factor in ushering A-list IR in porn. But I do think DARKSIDE was an important (not great) movie in the history of porn.   [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 19 2013 : 9:04PM In interview a while back she wanted to do it from the started but was an contract girl with some company at the time around 1996. The Darkside are for an ex contract star to do her in anything. Jenna Haze was the best one because not only was her 1st IR but it was her 1st return to B/G after 3years with Jill Kelly. The Alexis Ford was the 1st in anything, her 1st IR/Anal was with Lexington Steele for that was an two for one. Lisa Ann more matter that type of scenes you shot her will always sell. So Draxx what do you think bout Nina Hartley who been in the industry for now 30 years. [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Mar 19 2013 : 10:14PM Tera Patrick was married to that loser Evan Seinfeld who probably wouldn't let her do IR. I can't find any IR for Hitomi Tanaka but Rin Aoki and Maria Ozawa did IR. [Link] |
| more_cowbell Member 162 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 19 2013 : 10:20PM [Link] |
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| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Mar 19 2013 : 10:32PM [Link] |
killbillvol69  All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Mar 19 2013 : 11:30PM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Mar 20 2013 : 9:12AM I like and respect Nina greatly for her work in porn as well as defending/explaining the porn industry to the mainstream. As far as Nina and IR go...She's always done it even way back early in her career. There was a time a few years ago when she seemed to be doing a lot of it. I was extremely happy to see that because I'm black and I'm a Nina fan. Girls who were in porn in the 70s and 80s who did IR I always applaud and the ones who didn't I cut them slack because things were different back then. I remember Ginger Lynn saying there was a movie where she did a IR scene and she wanted to do another IR scene in the same movie but they wouldn't let her do it because 2 would be too much. She thought it was a dumb way of thinking. But that was the mindset of the porn biz and I think to a large extent of the audience of the time. But I think many of those performers of those days had to do what was best for them and what the companies/directors wanted from them. It seems that the ones who are still performing from that era don't have much of an issue with IR and do are free to do it if they choose to now. I think that's a good thing. many fans get upset if a girl doesn't do IR during their "prime" but it doesn't matter much to me. I think girls like Julia Ann, Lisa Ann, and others are in their "prime" now. [Link] |
| samueljr Senior Member 1371 Posts 11/11 | Posted - Mar 20 2013 : 4:25PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Mar 20 2013 : 7:02PM Was also one the very first stars to work for Dogfart Chloe Nicholle was a superstar and she also did plenty IR was also hired for the very first issue of Devil's Gangland series The All time Superstar Silvia Saint not only did a lot of IR scenes but was also the real life girlfriend of Mr Marcus , and this really opened something and all of this happened at least eight years before Bobbi , Dana and Brianna entered in porn [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 20 2013 : 10:11PM Edited by - Infamous on 3/20/2013 10:14:41 PM [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Mar 20 2013 : 10:21PM IAFD sometimes has a star listed as doing IR in a group scene like that but they really didn't do IR. [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Mar 20 2013 : 10:28PM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Mar 21 2013 : 9:12AM And don't think for a second if there were more (or any) black girls in a position to do the same thing for having sex with a white guy they would turn down the offer. And who's to say this hasn't happened and we just don't know about it? Why fans worry about what girls get paid is beyond me. Does it make the scene better if we know a girl got paid minimum rate for the scene? Theses girls have to make the best of their career while they have the chance because the day will come when they have trouble getting work. [Link] |
| Killergram Senior Member Anjali Kara - THE LADY BOSS/OWNER OF KILLERGRAM. 3343 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Mar 24 2013 : 7:53AM Jasmine James:    Emily B:    The ultimate in British porn AND now in HD! - KILLERGRAM.COM! [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 24 2013 : 12:21PM WOW, nice boobs [Link] |
| more_cowbell Member 162 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 24 2013 : 7:09PM Both have obviously fake looking tit jobs. and the bottom chick has visible scars. mod edit: Post cropped, please leave out the insults. Reread the forum etiquette you signed up to, in particular paragraph three. Edited by - Jonny Jay on 3/25/2013 7:11:43 AM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 24 2013 : 8:14PM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2013 : 4:46PM Edited by - Infamous on 3/26/2013 5:41:20 PM [Link] |
| samueljr Senior Member 1371 Posts 11/11 | Posted - Apr 5 2013 : 8:46AM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 5 2013 : 6:36PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Apr 5 2013 : 6:44PM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 5 2013 : 7:04PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Apr 5 2013 : 7:06PM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 5 2013 : 7:23PM [Link] |
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| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 6 2013 : 1:04PM This is a they good topic by Lexington Steele when I saw this Leilani Leeane Thread [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Apr 6 2013 : 4:39PM Some companies, black owned companies, who do lots of IR are in deep struggle to survive , Mercenaries, Justin Slayer and others are almost out of the business , hard to find material , issues the more and more scarce.WCP herself seems to have less productions than before. This should be discussed because IR productions are among those with good sales at least online. Apparently the "abusing" IR is that who sells humiliating cuckolding, thugs exploiting girls , unfaithful women cheating on their white insufficient husband. I think many white customers just don't like to be depicted as such even when those who produce such flicks are white. Oddly enough Mercenaries, Justin Slayer and others mostly showed arousal rather than abuse , and maybe for some other including the white customers who buy that "abusive" IR can't bear that a white woman might be truly attracted and in love with a black man. So for either reason some companies are going out of the business (piracy affects all kind of porn so I'm not taking that into consideration) Some of the girls who don't do IR don't do DP or anal or gangbang either , so as said the matter might not just be IR, they don't do the kind of IR produced today. There are exceptions of course , Sean Michaels just begun the cuckold thing but aside that usually puts passion in his movies. anyway there are some stars who did IR very early and disappear or are less known than they should be, I'm not saying here among experts , I mean among the irregular and casual consumers.Not to mention those who did especially IR -Janet Mason is one of them especially in her prime she should have been really something. -Raven Black -Katie Kox -Austin Taylor is one of the very few who does more IR than regular sex (60%) -Esperanza Gomez could have been big , worked especially for Slayer, even here few remember her - India Summer who even won an AVN award did IR always throughout her career, a consistent performer , a true beauty with acting abilities , works a lot but never became a contract star and isn't even close to the notoriety of Julia and Lisa Ann who built their fame when they were contract star and no IR performers for a long time. I've recently been surprised when I discovered how many didn't know who India Summer is if you name her to them , at least they can recognize her when shown, but not Raven Black or Janet Mason , especially Raven with her colorful whigs should have been known. I think it's because they just don't even pick up IR so they don't know them, as for India she did lots of Lez movies (over 100 scenes for Girlfriends only)so they might have avoided those too I live in Europe and maybe in the USA things are different about the stars I mentioned ,if so would like to know. Edited by - LCF on 4/6/2013 4:46:59 PM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 6 2013 : 10:35PM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Apr 6 2013 : 10:36PM My opinions...there are many people here much more knowledgable of the girls mentioned and may disagree. Also....Lisa Ann and Julia Ann are much bigger and popular now than they were in the earlier part of their career...especially Lisa Ann. Doing tons of IR has only helped Lisa Ann's career from what I can tell. But I think that has to do with the "wow" factor I mentioned before. Some girls just have a certain something that makes you want to watch them or makes their performances stand out. I think Lisa and Julia have it but someone like India Summer doesn't have as much. Edited by - draxxx on 4/6/2013 10:37:27 PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Apr 7 2013 : 4:43AM This type of discussion can be had, but not in this thread. Perhaps one of these threads might be a better place to continue your discussion: How popular is interracial porn??? is interracial a fetish? [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Apr 7 2013 : 5:18AM ^ EDIT Sorry I was typing while you put your message , I won't continue after thatWell that enhanced was exactly my point about India , it might be true that for some she doesn't have the "wow" look (has an incredible body though) but neither had Lisa Ann in her prime , I think she has it now though. Julia Ann always had though. I tend to think they are bigger because of some concurrent factors , they went gonzo after being vanilla for years , lots of people were waiting to see their kind of performer going hard , DP, hard anals , threesomes , I'd believe that the likes of Kayden Kross , Riley Steele or Jesse Jane would do the same (not to mention Stoya) ,, in addition the MILF market espanded a lot and this helped , yes they do lots of IR but they do also lots of other things. India didn't work for big companies on regular basis although she worked a lot for them , I'd like to know why. After all there have been some contract girls who aren't as good looking as India at least for me for "abusing" IR (yes I used this term for lack of a better one as you pointed out correctly) I meant not only some thugs trashing a "poor white girl" or a a too big a tool stretching wide out or bottoming out with half dick already a poor little white pussy (although ,without putting names, not all the blacks in porn are that big a few of them aren't big at all) but also those with a cuckold forced to watch or clean up or both and being mocked all the while, I have no problem when the cuckoldress just says how much she enjoys it. I would add a name here Sophia Santi was a contract star for DP, when free she begun to do IR , she even joined Justin Slayer and directed some movies for him some with IR some without , yet she disappeared soon after. My whole point, though ,was that actually to do IR in some cases affects some career , may not prevent you from being famous , but might limit your choices, Tori Black never become a contract star for a major house nor did Bobbi Starr, that really puzzles me both are incredibly good looking , both have that damn "wow and even wow again" impact , both could have be models , both won an AVN award (like India BTW) and yet nobody wanted to put them under contract , they become big almost on their own with Tori highly helped by Mason who pushed her really a lot.So why? If not because them both were doing lots of IR why was that? Tori couldn't even fake a no IR policy like Lisa Ann did because she was in relation with Tee Reel so it would have looked a plain lie (not to mention her getting pregnant from another black guy and then giving birth to a mixed baby) another name comes to mind Courtney Cummz She has it all , a stunning beauty , she has indeed that "wow" look you mentioned before, she even enhanced her boobs and yet never become a big name as she could have, why? Maybe the reason is that before entering in porn she was dating blacks only? Maybe because ,as she said on some occasions, she fucked her very first white guy at 22 on a porn set? Maybe because she did some 20 IR movies before her second year in porn? Then she almost ceased but it was of no use. And what about April Flowers? Who was said to prefer blacks and actually did her debut in porn with Mr Marcus and got even creampied? I'm saying that maybe to have girls who do IR regularly as a front star for some companies is not good , they might be racists but it might be that their market would refuse it. They hire some of these stars occasionally though Edited by - LCF on 4/7/2013 5:22:17 AM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Apr 7 2013 : 10:48AM First of all, not every girl wants to be a contract girl and the days of contract girls is slowly fading away except for a few companies. From what I see the girls who want to be contract girls are the girls who want to be famous or work in a more controlled enviorment. Because in most instances a pornstar can actually make more money and have less restrictions by being a free agent. Being a contract girl means you'll have more exposure, a predeterminded salary, and have to do a certain amount of work besides the movie stuff like appearances and such. Some girls want/like that, some don't. Ther are girls who could've been contract girls if they wanted to but for whatever reason didn't. Doing IR doesn't really stop a girl from being a contract girl if the girl really fits the mold. Bree Olsen, Lannie Barbie, Katsuni, and probably a bunch of others became contract girls in spite of doing lots/some of IR. Once they became a contract girl they pretty much have to stop doing IR but I don't think that audience cares that they did IR before becoming a contract girl but probably just don't want to see IR from them while they're at that company. But that's contract girl stuff...They have a different audience and play in a different sandbox and different rules apply. Gonzo girls have the freedom to do whatever they wish (unless they're letting others tell them what to do). I think a lot of the girls who don't do IR fall into different catagories. There are some who have a boyfriend/freinds/family that would be upset if they did it. There are some who follow that old business model of "pacing" their career or thinking it will hurt their career. And there are some who just aren't into doing it with black men for whatever reason. I think a girl like Yurizan Beltran will eventually do IR if she sticks around long enough. I think many are holding out looking for a big payday that may or maynot not come. With the way is at this point many girls are speeding up their "pacing" in order to get more work. There's also girls who hold out on doing IR for studios and save it for their websites. Ariella Ferrera has done IR for her site but not for a studio that I know of. Deauxma has done lots of IR for her site but only recently started doing it for studios. I think Ava Adams first IR will be for her site. Lastly, another important factor is the studios/directors. Some girls would've probably never tried IR if it weren't for studios like JULES JORDAN, EVIL ANGEL, ELEGANT and WCP having the clout to get them to do it and making it a bit of an event. As long as those studios stay strong, keep their high profile and keep making good IR content there will always be girls doing IR for the first time. Those studios are the most of the ones that showcase the most first timers. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Apr 7 2013 : 11:01AM I don't think we will see her again [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Apr 7 2013 : 11:13AM I predict we'll see IR at some point from Hitomi but it might be a few years away. Call me crazy but I think if Tera Patrick had stayed in porn and thought it would help her career in a big way she would've done IR. When Tera was in the business she was calling the shots...not Evan. If it were Evan he would've treated Tera like he treats Lupe and not let her have sex with anyone else. But tera was in charge and Tera wanted to be a big star. That's why at we saw her started having sex with other guys and doing anal again because fans weren't responding well to her always only banging Evan and having such vanilla sex. If she thought IR would've boosted her career in a big way I think she would've done it because Tera was all about being a "star" and would've done what she could to be one. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Apr 7 2013 : 12:07PM Any more messages on this off-topic branch will be deleted. Move to the other thread. [Link] |
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| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 12 2013 : 10:46PM I like myself some fake boobs, real or fake as long they are big. She kind of remind of those Scores magazine model back in the 90's. I'm more of a tit person because I mostly watched big tit movies. Edited by - Infamous on 4/12/2013 10:50:40 PM [Link] |
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| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 23 2013 : 12:02PM Mr Marcus is long gone by now so don't think any company wouldn't shoot him anymore. [Link] |
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| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - May 10 2013 : 12:40PM So Far.. Ava Adams Jodi Taylor Laela Pryce (Shot her 1st IR for Dogfart) Abbey Brooks Hopes for 2013 Kendra Lust AJ Applegate Tasha Reign J Love Rachael Starr (Look at Abbey Brooks who took 7 years but still but you nerve know) Jessica Drake (Long shot) Siri Ones who just left the industry Melina Mason, She was going to do IR this year based on her Twitter but her new business is doing good, and is making lot of money. But she will be back in 2 years from now if it failed. Nicole Aniston, well you can forget bout her doing IR or ever anal with her quitting porn. She wasn't nerve into it btw just for the money. But who know she will be back if her new life doesn't workout. Edited by - Infamous on 5/10/2013 12:41:14 PM [Link] |
| AJ Applegate Member If it's not in your mouth or on your face.. it's a waste !! 523 Posts 8/12 | Posted - May 10 2013 : 5:02PM AJ Applegate xox [Link] |
| kingdarius Deactivated User President of the IDGAF Coalition 3288 Posts 2/10 | Posted - May 10 2013 : 6:01PM Edited by - kingdarius on 5/10/2013 6:03:05 PM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - May 27 2013 : 8:29PM Ava Adams (Website) Jodi Taylor Laela Pryce Abbey Brooks (Black Owned 5 if Jules will release it but I think fall) AJ Applegate (MM9) Hopes for 2013 Kendra Lust (Is open to it, hope it's be this year) Tasha Reign (She said something on Twitter bout doing IR) J Love Rachael Starr (Look at Abbey Brooks who took 7 years but still but you nerve know) Jessica Drake (Long shot but will do it when she is no longer in porn but who know) Siri (Same with KL) Edited by - InFamous on 5/27/2013 8:30:08 PM [Link] |
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