Lana should be able to do what Lana wants, if she needs time off so be it, It her life her body, Your health should always come first in this business. If you do come back fans will be waiting for you.
^If he doesn't tell his side of the story I gotta wonder.
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Rondoe99 Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 6 2016 : 8:11PM
Lana, your happiness is all that matters to your fans. I hope you have a good team of people around you. Given the attention you create, you should be calling the shots regarding every aspect of your career. In all my years of watching porn, ive never seen a bigger debut. I just hope you recognize your specialness and surround yourself with people who aren't afraid to get you everything you deserve.
Oh no, she might go G/G only, the sky is falling. I for one will enjoy her G/G content while it lasts, since she is so popular in the B/G world.
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MERPER Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 12:39AM
[/quote] A adult actress should not have to work with strepthroat, pink eye, yeast infections & BV, and be refused time off to recover & allot of other things that I'm not going to talk about. [/quote] Spot on. This sounds awful, almost like a form of torture. I love every scene you've made so far, but now knowing for some you were working so ill and in discomfort makes me sad and borderline angry for you. Most important thing in any profession is your health. Slow down, get healthy and you'll be much better off for it. Your fans will still be here!
I thank everyone for their support ❤️ And for riding with me the past 4 monthes, you guys are all very special and dear to my heart for supporting me in my endeavours.
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 1:22AM
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sonofharpy Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 1:30AM
Lana - We all love you and will be here no matter what...just take care of your health and do what needs to be done.. lv
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Mass Facialties Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 3:26AM
Wow, Aiden Aspen??? It's been quite a while since you last made an appearance here on ADT.
^How can it be spun for Spiegler then. Was Lana keeping the health problems a secret? Which sounds almost impossible considering the frequent testing they do and co workers noticing it and gossiping.
^^ So you don't believe her - Ok. "Inexcusable" wasn't meant for you. Being around the longest doesn't make opinion a fact - I've heard about Spiegler putting pressure on girls and punishing them by giving them "time outs" for canceling shoots so your interpretation of stellar reputation is subjective and comes from the point of view of directors/producers who are happy that Spiegler girls never cancel and are kept in line and give him mad respect for it - when it comes to actual models, not sure how many of them are fine with receiving a penalty for refusing to shoot while being sick. Not sure where I personally attacked you. Lana came out with her side story herself in this thread and it's the only side of the story that exists right now. It's not that hard to believe it in the first place.
^^^Goldstein can defend himself but you are really all over the place, be ready to feel his wrath!! As for me, the only thing I have to say about this is the following: two people entered into a business agreement and we weren't part of those conversations. That business agreement fell apart for whatever reasons and we weren't part of that either even (if we are getting one side's story which is based on.....one side of the story).
I apologize if you felt that I was in any way attacking you and your decision. In no way did I want to do that. I think that your physical and mental health should be the most important thing because if you aren't healthy than life tends to be quite unpleasant. If your agent is unwilling to give you the time to recuperate from an illness than he isn't doing his job properly. In fact it's borderline dangerous because you are then even more prone to catch other infections which will make your recuperation time even longer. I was just trying (probably incorrectly) to offer a possible reason why an agent might want to book his talent to as many porn jobs as possible. I honestly don't care whether you choose to stay in porn and do other things as long as you are healthy and happy in what you choose to do with your life.
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sinsin Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 1:22PM
I think we all need to calm down for a moment and put things in perspective. As far as Spiegler is concerned, who knows what goes on behind closed doors. As for Lana, I feel for her and wish her the best in whatever she decides to do in the future. I'm just thankful for what she's given us so far. On a related note, I was gonna spend some time watching her Banging Cuties scene last night, but couldn't. I have no interest in watching someone engage in any behavior due to perceived or actual coercion, and the absolute hottest thing about Lana thus far, for me at least, has been her apparent enthusiasm and playfulness during her scenes. To think that this beautiful, young, and talented performer may (or may not...I don't know the state of her health at the time of the 2nd MA scene and it's really beside the point anyway) have been ill, even partially unwilling, or felt coerced in anyway makes it difficult to for me to separate momentarily from the compassion and empathy I feel for her as a person, and the incomparably appetititive visual stimulation that seeing her body in motion provides. I guess I'm a just a big ol' softy in the end. True human compassion and empathy win the day yet again in the face of the much more basic and nearly irresistible emotions occassioned by sensory experience alone. All the best to you, Lana. Get well soon and hopefully return to us. Otherwise, thanks for the beautiful mammaries...
Hasn't she only shot a few IR scenes so far? I wish Lana the best and hope she makes a speedy recovery, but I don't see how a few scenes here and there were responsible for anything.
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hashphish Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 5:27PM
^^^^ again it's the rush to get IR out of a girl so fast. again I'm not saying she shouldn't shoot IR before the IR head hunters again take it as a reason to argue. Also I never said IR scenes were responsible for anything, just those released too early. I believe in the IR shoots for later like cream pies, anal, dp, blow bangs ,gang bang and such later in a girls career. And before y'all try with the insults, again I'm not saying girls shouldn't shoot those scenes or wait 10 years!
hey guys! I think you all should remember that everyone is entitled to there own opinion & everyone should feel welcome to post on ADT. Allot of times we can get upset because we don't agree with what others say, but I think we must remember before saying harsh things to each other or not respecting each others opinions that we don't know what is going on in the other person life, the person on the other side of the computer could be depressed, have severe pain and bad health or be going threw something ruff. This is not directed towards anyone It's just something that I wanted to share from watching this thread over time.
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klies Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 6:21PM
https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/the-archiver total 4 posts. 3 posts in 2005 and 4th one after 11 years in 2016.
He's been waiting 11 years but now he cant wait any longer.
Edited by - klies on 8/7/2016 6:23:43 PM
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 6:31PM
def not a good news, hope she does not disappear without performing all the hard gonzo acts like dp, gangbang, blowbang etc
^ No just recovering from overwork and will now be taking things at a healthier pace! Read her excellent posts above for explanation.
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sonofharpy Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 8:13PM
Read her posts before assuming anything and spreading misinformation here or on social media. She has said clearly she is going to continue doing porn (both B/G as well as G/G) but just at a slower pace giving time for her health too which she wasn't being able to do before.
Guys, its pretty simple. A girl who was with only one partner for her whole life, with a small, tight, barely used vagina ends up doing scenes almost every day with a different male talent for several months, it puts a toll on the body, let alone the infections, UTI's and whatever other sorts of bonuses that come with it. It is to be expected; the few girls who I've dated in the hardcore business, even the 'extreme' ones need a break after a week or two of shooting. They do 2 weeks on, one week off, etc... I just hope that $$ is saved somewhat, and when comes time for the IRS, she does not end up in the negative financially like most do.
I'm with Goldstein. I'm not going to question Lana at all and wish her only the best. I had a good time talking to her and find her to be a really nice person. Also, Spiegler is the best agent in the business for a reason. I know enough girls with his agency and have talked to them about a wide variety of things and not one has a bad thing to say about him. I've also heard some stories about Mark and have had some personal interaction with him to believe that his reputation is well deserved. Just hold off on casting stones at a person because, unless you have personally talked to Lana or Speigler, this is all speculation.
Regardless of what happened, I'm surprised that Lana didn't have more g/g shoots scheduled to balance out the b/g content like a lot of newer girls that start with doing b/g out of the gate, and even most of the other Spiegler girls. She had 2 scenes for GFF, a FTV with Stella, and a threesome for Girlsway. Unless I'm missing something, that's an average of one g/g scene a month with the rest being b/g with men that definitely aren't average in the dick size area after only being with one guy before porn. I've never been with a man so I could be wrong and forgive me if I am, but I can't imagine having large dicks inside me days in a row for months on end is good for the body on a comfort level, let alone a hygienic level. I know that sadly g/g isn't the big money maker, but it still is strange on a health level she wasn't booked for more to give her body a little more rest.
^I don't find it strange. A girl as popular as Lana was/is right out the gate is going attract predominately B/G offers, which always takes precedence. Frankly, I'm surprised she was able to squeeze in the little G/G she did. Most girls in similar positions don't start doing proper G/G until much later after the hype has died down a little, and after a few "firsts" have been capitalized on.
Everybody here is going to have to accept that Lana is more suited for going strictly g/g in the future. For starters, it offers more variety in how she can perform. She can make tender love to women (like in her girlfriends films scenes). She can be dominant to women (like in her ftvgirls scene with Stella Cox). She can show off her acting skills in well made lesbian movies (like the ones from girlsway). Also g/g porn is just hotter. I mean, there's absolutely nothing like seeing two gorgeous females kiss and finger one another. Then seeing them take turns licking each others pussies. And women are just more sensual. They know how to really get each other off and there's less faking on screen because of it. They're more playful and willing to explore their lovely lady parts. Plus the use of toys like strap-ons are a healthier alternative to cock. It's just much more appealing to me from a lifestyle perspective for any adult working actress. Now it is a personal preference so don't get confused and think that I'm stating my opinion as fact. Its just girls do it better is all.
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Drecksau Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 8 2016 : 1:03AM
So, is she free agent now or what?? All through twitter and email without an agency??
Regarding that middle picture... all she needs is a derby hat and a pair of sunglasses, and she'd be a female Cousin Itt. What, was Porn Fidelity having an Addams Family fetish shoot that day? Anyway... flashing middle fingers or not, that is one gorgeous woman.
Totally agency's fault. She made 1 year content in 2-3 months and it was totally wrong for her health and her career. Teasing, scheduling is very important in business, lots of people don't understand that. I'm totally with you Lana, i don't mind even if you quit if it is for your sake. Edited by - theboyinthat on 8/8/2016 6:06:25 AM
LOL I have found that if there's ever a disagreement, a debate or an argument in porn, no matter what the cause, what the reasons are, what the truth is, fans will ALWAYS side with the girl. Porn Girl > Male Porn Star > Directors/Producers > Agents > People on the outskirts of the industry (PR people, writers, etc) > fans
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Posted - Aug 8 2016 : 8:18AM
^ That's not that right. I was against Riley when she was suffering problems with fans about doing anal. She was teasing people a lot by twitter to gain followers. Like "i will share pic that shows anal penetration of me if i reach 50k follower" etc. But when fans were talking about her inherited "first anal", she was like "i'm a human too, pornstars have feelings too, go away anal hounds :'((() which was totally lie.
^^Not true, I and others were heavily against Stoya's accusations and defended James Dean. I was also against Stagliano and Sheena Shaw when they had the scandal going. In these cases you have to look at the bigger picture and even everything out, like both sides past, if the claims hold up etc. I was already too hasty in this thread myself, but so far I don't see anything against Lana's case. There's already conflicting opinions on Spiegler's way of business.
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Posted - Aug 8 2016 : 9:39AM
^&^^ There will be exceptions to every rule, but for the most part, its true. Examples: And at no point am I being mean to the performers but more pointing out the fan's reactions. 1. I mentioned one time that Ron Jeremy had a Master's degree so he must be reasonably intelligent. Fan response: That doesn't mean he's intelligent, he means he read a few books. 2. Porn girl walks and chews gum at the same time. Fan response: She's borderline genius. 3. Porn girl strings together a few sentences in an article Fan response: She's giving Ernest Hemingway a run for his money. 4. This was a post in a performer's thread to a question a fan asked a few weeks ago and the response. I'm not being negative to the performer but the emphasis is on the fan response. What the performer is saying is basically taught in Jr High or sooner biology, but the fan response is making it sound like she's Madam Curie providing some top secret research info performer wrote: a2m never lead to any negative consequences for me. Saliva contains bacteria which can kill foreign bacteria entering the mouth. Our system is well equipped to deal with bacteria entering through the mouth. Fan response: It's so nice to see a porn star who knows real science and has knowledge, and not just go by rumors.
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sonofharpy Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 8 2016 : 10:22AM
As a fan who follows her religiously, I had noticed that (although she didn't constantly complain about it), there were instances she mentioned about here bad health.There is decent amount of evidence on her social media from a long time back that she has been in bad health and that she was shooting when in bad health. Also the fact that she overshot a lot of scenes in a comparatively less duration is also true. I did a google search and just came across the following tweets where she mentions of herself being sick: Note "Shooting when sick for Porndifelity""Taking Vitamins and preventive care" "work a lot" "Not feeling well" "practically a corpse" "30 or more scenes" in like 2-3 months...is she human or a machine? Following all her tweets and after hearing her version of the story, there is obvious reasons that I would side with her. Also it does seem that its not the first time Mark Spiegler has been sending performers to a shoot even when they were sick. I just did a Google search to do a background check to the story and came across this: http://www.pornnewstoday.com/pnt/2013/06/02/porn-agent-mark-spiegler-sent-severely-ill-pornstar-skin-diamond-to-work-eric-john-of-erotiquetv-takes-a-stand/ On the other hand there is always two sides to the story but since we haven't heard that and as a person who works with facts and morality, as I have followed Lana's career and story so far I am with Lana at this point of time. Edited by - sonofharpy on 8/8/2016 10:36:04 AM Edited by - sonofharpy on 8/8/2016 10:36:44 AM
Amazing how now everyone speaks up about her shooting too many scenes. I mean it's after it comes out, oh yeah I agreed but never wanted to talk about it or how she shot scenes fast as fuck. Lol also harpy are you the person I know from Twitter? All that remembering every tweet she did seems like something he is capable of with his good memory and all. Also this reminds me of leah gotti topic with her shooting stuff quickly and jumping into hardcore stuff like gangbangs fast then retiring then coming back a short time later. Edited by - hashphish on 8/8/2016 12:19:05 PM
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Posted - Aug 8 2016 : 12:13PM
Sorry for double post, no idea why it did that Edited by - hashphish on 8/8/2016 12:16:43 PM