Pitbull: if it were simply a matter of people "mourning" her departure, that would be one thing. But it's not. It's people openly speculating what else she could do that might not screw her up so badly but still allow us to get our rocks off. As if her just simply stopping is just off the table. It's people essentially saying, "well, she's already fucked up her life, may as well stick it out for several more years and cash out" It's saying "quitting was an even worse mistake than joining". Sorry, but that's some messed up shit. Mourn away (though I do find even that a bit odd), it's just the blatant commentary on how and why someone should continue to get fucked on camera for our pleasure if they're simply not into it. The industry has come a long way and that's a good thing. But part of that is not shaming or coercing women to do things they're not in to. And I feel that some here are certainly crossing that line.
^Steady on; I don't think you can equate disagreements over porn to war.
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sonofharpy Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 1 2016 : 11:25AM
^Not really equating porn disagreements to war, just finding it amusing that we human beings have such a fickle nature as to have such disagreements on trivial things
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Pervy Sage Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 1 2016 : 12:15PM
shouldn't the mods just close this thread? people are just arguing and it doesnt even matter because shes retired.. lol
Yep...wouldn't disagree too much with your basic sentiments but equally (which was my point) you could also really do with following your own advice......'Let it freaking go' wasn't it?
Yeah no need to argue if she did take the right decicion or note... or if you didnt like the choice Lol most of the posts are about that.. Lets just all enjoy and comment about her scenes
Fair enough Pitbull. I guess I just imagined what it would be like to write what she wrote and then come back and read some of the things that were said. Edited by - casual fan on 9/1/2016 12:41:45 PM
This thread is hyper active even after she announced her retirement...This shows how much popular she was & how much her fans are missing her. We just hope & pray to god that May be someday she changes her mind & make a grand comeback!!!
I don't know how Twitter is "official". It's just social media. People should be grateful that she posted here on ADT. Most girls just leave without a word being said.
She did not contradict herself at all, she maintains that she was depressed because she was working while being sick. You don't know why the tweets about Spiegler are deleted(sounds like they got deleted along with a pile of tweets). Who knows if she has been pressured to stay quiet about that issue.Yes he gets a lot of positive comments but I have seen some bad mouth him. I will not go into detail but he does NOT have a clean track record which you seem to be suggesting.
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I'm pretty sure he was and the industry is far from dead. I am being sarcastic too Jack. Only I am going to the other side. There is always a small portion of truth behind a good sarcastic comment. As for dying... it is a poetic license. I guess you got the meaning of my phrase. Haven't you heard "American Pie" song lyrics. There are viewers who know things about the backstages of the industry but they choose not to talk about them in forums. Yes, indeed, there are many things that should not come out in the public because people do not understand and make wrong conclusions. But there other things which eventually do come out by the protagonists themselves and they are not pretty. We cannot always hide behind our fingers Jack and pretend that nothing happened. There are issues and they are big and that need to be dealt drastically by the industry and I think you know it more than many others here. I have the feeling that from one point and after some of the new girls seem to directed like unarmed scribes into a Roman arena. They do not have the slightest clue where they are going to, because they are not prepared well enough. They start full of ambitions and dreams and they end up living a hell. I do love watching a pretty young girl in sensual moments, especially someone with the looks of Lana but I can't sit calmly in my couch while I listen to 19 old teenager cries of suffer. It makes my heart bleed. What is the solution? To gag her? To isolate her? Lana is an innocent young female creature who just expressed her personal complains. We shouldn't shoot her about that. Then what to do? To close our screen? To pretend that nothing happened? To start seeking for the next "victim"? That will make me feel better? No it wont. So as much as I can, I will raise my voice. I owe it to Lana and to every future Lana. Someone will hear. Someone will be more cautious next time. I hope. Am I exaggerating? Am I too dramatic? Perhaps I am... but think of the facts. Lana's complains are not the first ones. Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality!
So after all these messages and locked thread what is happening exactly?Lana retired from all porn?Is she doing only G/G?I have no idea through all these posts
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StarGrek Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 1 2016 : 6:37PM
I agree with you 100%, although with the booming of social media this connection between performer-audience changed so as the marketing tactics around it (branding).
but I definitely disagree about this my fellow poster. Unfortunately they DON'T do a job like most of us do. This is exactly what I am actually trying to achieve by writing all these dramatic stuff. There are many sanitary dangers on this job and lots lots lots of psychological pressure. The models need to make many sacrifices to please public's appetite and sometimes this has tremendous effects in their lives. There is no need of course to mention social stigma. Things are generally not that bad, because the majority of adult companies are as much professional as they can be, the agents do care about their models and there are many scenes where the actresses do enjoy every second of their time. However there are cases where the implications are much worse than I described. The problems are real my friend and they are complicated. But the heart of them are not the lions, the gladiators or the arena builders. I focus its center in the twisted mentality. I strongly believe that if everyone thought of pornstars as real human personalities who have feelings, physical limits, character weaknesses, families and future these problems would be a lot less.
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Posted - Sep 1 2016 : 6:40PM
I am writing back Lana Rhoades statement for everyone ... who might missed it
I really hate to see her go but I am also very grateful for what she gave me. That said, I wish nothing but the best for her going forward. I hope she finds happiness and good health for all her days. Thanks Lana, Vaya con Dios mi amiga
Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99
Posted - Sep 2 2016 : 7:29AM
As a human reading this thread, not a site admin, I would suggest sticking to scene reviews, photos, and well wishes. You can't edit your posts in the future and I don't want to get hordes of your emails asking me to remove your posts in two years. Lana, best of luck whatever you decide to do. As tough as porn is I think living in LA would be the worst part.
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birdman7 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 2 2016 : 7:49AM
why is that? i have seen some porn girls not live in la and only fly to LA for a week or so every month to shoot scenes and than go back.what is wrong with living in la?
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Posted - Sep 2 2016 : 10:22AM
I hated the pollution when I lived there but aside from that my experience is that it was no worse than anywhere else. I can't speak to how it might be for a pornstar living there though.
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Posted - Sep 2 2016 : 10:26AM
It's very simple: Some consumers see pornstars as basically interchangeable, while others don't. It's the latter group that's mourning.
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sonofharpy Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 2 2016 : 12:05PM
Lana always used to tweet or mention in interviews that she didn't like LA and found Chicago better. Feeling homesick also I guess added to worsening her health and depression.
^^ People seem to assume that everyone responds to porn and the pornstars in the same way as them. When you see others respond in different ways it may seem weird and it's easy to ridicule or get aggressive with these people. The fact that you might not 'get' why a certain person feels that way doesn't make it sick or wrong.......just different! It's been fascinating seeing how Lana has so fallen out of love with porn after initially seeming so enthusiastic and how so many different people have responded. Think the way you've put it pretty much sums it up, though! Edited by - Pitbull67 on 9/2/2016 12:09:22 PM
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Posted - Sep 2 2016 : 6:18PM
I was born and raised in Chicago. Lived there "full time" for 18 years until I went off to college, then another 4 years post college and have now been in Los Angeles for 3 years. Really, all cities and experiences are based on what you make it. I love Chicago, miss it a lot. But I also love LA. It's unique, it's fun, there's more/different things to do here and the weather is obviously much better. Lana clearly had a much different (and unfortunately negative) experience with Los Angeles than I have had. I am sure her physical issues from her entry into the porn industry and everything else that goes along with the "non glamorous" side of porn contributed to the things she hates about Los Angeles. In addition, through twitter interactions she mentioned she misses the changing of seasons and fall/winter.
I feel like this thread is in a negative place right now and no one has written anything because they don't want to say anything mean anymore lol But on a happy note, I've just noticed that Lana's birthday is in 2 days!!! Woohoo! Hope she has a blast for her 20th! :)
"if only lana's immune system was better like other girls." Appeal to possibility, Birdman7. Edited by - The Elbow on 9/4/2016 6:48:47 PM
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Posted - Sep 4 2016 : 7:36PM
^^ Why post it here? They will now start arguing about std/sti in this thread. [o\|] [o\|]
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StarGrek Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 4 2016 : 11:21PM
Not many porn consumers can understand why certain viewers are so attached to specific stars. Well I am not gonna analyze you why this human characteristic is the basic principle of the advertising, of show biz in general, social media, reality shows etc etc.. I will though try to explain you why I, got so attached to Lana Rhoades. The basic reason has to do with the fact that We, the ADT viewers were privileged to experience one significant part of this girl's adventurous life unfolding in front of our screens just like a book, a movie or a TV show. Only this was not scripted or directed. This was real. This is the fascinating thing about it. Her story was evolving for every day for 4 months in these very pages. Just like we get attached to the protagonist of a dramatic movie, of a reality show or of someone we get fond of while hearing the news. And our role was not limited to viewing, we could actually interact with her, talk with her. Think about it! Lana Rhoades is the starlet with the greatest social impact in the history of porn. Whoever knows about porn he can easily confirm it. Lana is already a legend. She is a creature of rare natural beauty and her eagerness to please every on screen partner of hers created the image of a very promising future. But for us here Lana Rhoades was more than anything else a friend! Yes a friend! I ask your forgiveness dear viewers and moderators for the length of my post but Lana is a special case and my intentions are good.
Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality! Edited by - StarGrek on 9/5/2016 8:20:39 PM
Well I thought I would comment here since I just heard of this news. I never became a fan of Lana but I have followed this thread on her sometimes just because she was such a popular new star. Good luck to Lana, I think she made the right decision if she was that unhappy. And I give much thanks to her for clearing things up with her post. For those that are distraught over her retirement - I know how you feel. Im a fan of maybe less than 5 girls in the industry, but if I counted all the one and dones in the industry I would easily be a fan of more than 20 girls. Amy Parks was my latest favorite that retired very early.
StarGrek, stop saying us, you don't speak for me and I am not wanting to get locked up in the asylum with you. I don't know about Lana's hall of fame cred but that post is hall of fame worthy.....for all the wrong reasons. If Lana is reading your post she's telling herself "thank god I walked away from these people." Edited by - bumblaster on 9/5/2016 9:29:40 AM
Good lord have mercy. I'm talking about both Lana's beauty and the stalkish posts. Even though like I said she wasn't my favorite performer, I can totally see why she would have a lot of cling-ons in her fanbase.
I'm always thankful for these kinds of posts, make me feel a lot better about myself and my porn consumption.
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sonofharpy Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 5 2016 : 10:12AM
While maybe I am as fascinated as some people about Lana and as distraught about her retiring since she was my no. 1 favorite and I her found her to be one of the prettiest woman on the planet regardless of porn, I think I too am finding things going a bit creepy over here. @Stargeek, you have basically summed up the whole thread in a single post, don't know how u managed it but I have to commend you on that but also the other fact is that you have been repeating the same point you made in your previous post again and again, and its now starting to appear kinda creepy, cringy and stalk-ish. I do understand the fascination though and I do agree with your point on her being the "Biggest impact pornstar of the social media era." I have seen this fascination for her not just here but on some of the other forums that I am part of too, she definitely was something special and had the potential to be one of the "greats" of porn. But well, things do not go as we think of, do they. The only thing we can do now is wish Lana the best in whatever her endeavors are. I too wish that Lana posted once in a while here or maybe start using her social media again even if she didn't do porn, but if she doesn't want to do it and she wants to just move on with her life in a different manner, you need to accept and respect that too. Just Learn to let go. Edited by - sonofharpy on 9/5/2016 10:20:54 AM
Yep, let it go. It's a testament to Lana that very few, if any, have made such a huge impact in such a short period of time. All the 'why's' and denials mean nothing; it is what it is; now leave her be.
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StarGrek Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 5 2016 : 10:46AM
@bumblaster: First of all I think I was very clear in my previous post.
and when in the end
With all due respect my fellow poster, I certainly didn't include you in the "us" term.
It is very clear you are NOT a real Lana Rhoades fan. Don't get me wrong, I am not gonna judge you about that. You might prefer other models or certain sexual acts. There are many members of this site who are aggressively fanatics with certain sexual acts (I can include myself too). This site is full of fanatics of different kind and this is very apparent in every thread. But I am a Lana Rhoades fan and I am not ashamed to declared it publicly. I am addicted, in love with her on screen image. I am also in love with Beyonce, Aishrarya Rai, Mila Kunis and many other public figures, including several other pornstars. I am also enchanted about Leo Messi, Michael Jordan, Novak Jokovic athletic skills or Johnny Depp acting performances. That doesn't mean that I am gonna stalk them, throw stones at their window or detonate myself for their name. Relax man. My appreciation and love for them is different. There are many many other posters here who are too. I might be considered extra emotional or expressive, (that's because of my nature) but they have also declared their admiration in many ways for that marvelous creature. Now you can freely discuss and express your opinion about her performances, but my friend, you cannot criticize a person because he has certain feelings about her, just because you don't feel the same way. This is beyond... insanity. It is like you criticize a certain sport team fan, a Harley Davidson club member, a pilgrim or a person who is in love with someone else. Using the same logic I could not understand how is possible YOU not to feel mesmerized when you stare at her eyes. But I cannot say that because you simply don't. So like I do not judge you or everyone else about his feelings or personal preferences I except to not do the same for me. Now. The relation between a public figure and his/her fans is very special. You will not understand it, unless you are a fan, you have actually met and talked to a public person or you are one yourself. It is a relation of mutual dependence and appreciation. That is another issue I will not write about now. Everyone has the right to express his/her admiration to a certain performer in social media as long as he is not becoming a threat to her privacy and is not insulting anyone else. Now every model, director, producer or agent in the adult industry, every artist, sport club, politician, leader or dogma has its fan base. The social media grew because of the followers and several collateral industries (advertising, marketing, reality shows, tabloids) are exploiting the relation between the public figure and his fans.
Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality! Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/5/2016 1:30:37 PM
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StarGrek Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 5 2016 : 11:11AM
forgive my bolds I didnt do it intentionally. (I cannot edit my posts any more.) If there is one slightly chance to see Lana's beautiful smile again in one form or another, it will come only by showing her that we still want her and by making this place enough warm for her to stay and not by being rude to each other. Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality!
^^^^I'm fine not to be in the "Lana fan" category if it means being associated with.....whatever it is you are trying to prove. You need to go outside of your house and smell the fresh air. Good luck to you, I'm out.
Haven't been in here for a while, but wow, this thread escalated quickly haha. Anyway, I 100% support your decision and I wish you all the best with your future endeavors!