I had read that LP had some shady practices like using a numbing cream on the women's anuses so they could endure more extreme penetration but the whole living conditions thing was new to me more than a bit creepy. I have some credits there now so I think I'll use them up and cancel my recurring charges. Some may see it as hypocritical to even use those now but I think leaving them behind would be more of a win for LP. That and I really have no scruples.
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Posted - Mar 18 2020 : 12:26PM
No porn viewer has scruples. We like something or don't like it. LP housing the girls sounds good. American girls provide there own clothes sounds bad. Golden showers are good. Golden showers with gallons is bad. Injections are bad but so is floppy. Does viagra do the same job. I'd take one if it stopped me falling out of bed in my sleep.
^ You could probably broaden that by saying no male has scruples... when it comes to sex...
Thanks for trying to cheer me up!
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Posted - Mar 18 2020 : 1:15PM
^^ Men would have to be naive to think all women have scruples. Feminists complain the women in porn have to shave the pubic hair but so do most of the men. Porn knows no boundaries and caters for all tastes.
Some things are still legal in some European (Russia, Hungary) countries and I don't mean underage though when Club 17 started in the Netherlands the number 17 was not chosen for nothing.
This is a good read from the horses mouth.; and I'm not talking Hungarian Porn.
All LP has to do for me to come back is change the locations every once in a while and leave the clothes / outfits on the girls at least partially. The color of their clothes stops the whole washed out samey look. So would a location change.
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Posted - Mar 22 2020 : 7:03AM
^ They are all probably self isolating in that house. I notice one site is already using coronavirus for a new storyline.
As far as Lexi Foxy/Vera King, I only recall her describing 2 scenes in that post that she wrote, but she did 3 scenes for Legal, right? What's up with that or did I miss one of her scene recaps inadvertently?
Never mind. I went back and figured it out. Even though the DAP scene was the last released, it appears that she actually shot the DAP scene before shooting the DP. So she had a worse experience shooting a DP scene with 2 guys than she had shooting a DAP scene with 4 guys? Okay. That seems odd to me but it's her life and her experiences.
Finding out about a numbing agent they use makes me feel even more negative about that site. It's so obviously bordering on illegal what they're doing I'm sure. I hope no other girls work them to be honest. I don't get the appeal of this site, the women are not having a good time and it all looks the same every time. Woman with huge toys on a super white background. In comes the guys with no foreplay and they shove their cocks straight into the girls ass, then another straight in the ass. Girl practically no expression and so it goes on and on.
It's like I have always said even on their forum, IMO DAP is one of the most softcore acts on that site, its just boring tip fucking and half tip fucking. So of course it isn't as invasive as hardcore, deep anal and DP penetration. So it makes total sense to me!
Nobody wanted this with the current situation which is very depressing and tragic, but as I assume all shooting more or less have stopped that now finally all the non released scenes might get released, or they just simple decrease number of releases.
Not sure why scenes with retired girls like Ria Sunn, Timea Bella and so on are not released
^ I hope you're right that LP has shut down production of new scenes during the pandemic. Unfortunately, given LP's track record I fear that they could be one of the few production companies who ignore the crisis and the obvious solution.
I hope they prove me wrong...
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Posted - Mar 27 2020 : 1:43PM
I sppose if they are all in the same house, then it's the whole household self isolate. Adulttime is sending out a questionaire which I filled out asking for your timezone and best time for a live show they intend to broadcast using performers living together.
Rocco Siffredi has AFAIK has done live shows for satellite channels.
A queston to all you Legal Porno experts: Why is it that a brand that likes to transcend many boundaries is so reluctant in showing females rimming the male participants?
I say reluctant as I've seen quite a few of their movies but in contrast to all forms of anal and piss and even fisting such scenes seems to be quite rare and when it occurs it isn't treated as anything special through focusing of the camera or close ups or .
Any knowledge, ideas or examples of scenes suggesting that I'm wrong are welcomed.
^I think you misunderstand them if you think it's a question of reluctance because it's purely a business decision. LP believes that their fans only care about anal penetration and rimming while it involves an anus. It's not the one that's going to get penetrated.
Thus, if I understand you correctly the man is only the cock and everything happens to the woman that mostly should be passive and receiving. Yes, that fits with all the women so often being placed in the next position and much rarer having any inititative at all. A bit sad though, as many adult female stars are the most sexy when they themselves and happily initiates a truly depraved act.
^^You may be correct but I see it a little differently. To me your average LP scene is not really about the females or the male performers so much as a question of just how many penises can fit in the females orifices. The fact that the penises have to be attached to men doesn't seem as important as the men's ability to remain hard and willingness to shove it in the females tight orifices is by far the most important thing. In fact I would argue that LP is getting close to the point where they will not even care who is getting fucked in the ass as long as it looks the way they want it to. Case in point is the recent addition of transsexual performers in what I would argue is a primarily hetero only site. I can't speak for how popular that type of content is but seeing as they keep adding new scenes tends to make me think that it has a certain following.
Now I don't want to say that LP doesn't want to have big names work for them but they keep bringing the same performers to do the exact same thing they have done dozen of times instead of looking for new blood sort of proves my point.
^^ All the major sites recycle the talent. You know that. If you go on Brazzers, Evil Angel, even Vixen et al....there are girls appearing multiple times doing variations on the same theme. On LP there is a huge variety of girls. Sure there are some who appear loads of times but today we've had a first scene from the gorgeous Lily Glee and the first for equally stunning Lottie Magne in only her second ever anal scene. A few days ago we had the first scene from the gorgeous Martina Smeraldi. 'Big names' don't interest me. I'm interested in good looking girls and decent content. There are plenty of scenes on LP that I'm not 'in to' but there's plenty of good stuff too. It's all a matter of 'taste'! I think rather than people continually moaning about the content of niche sites like this, Tushy, Hookup Hotshot etc why don't we celebrate the breadth and variety that we can choose to access.
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Posted - Mar 29 2020 : 3:41AM
Most of LP is repetative so I only take an interest in new girls going through the system; MF MMF, etc. So I shall be watching Lotte Magne. Lily Glee did a good dp for PureTaboo recently. From the LP trailer this looks likely from American Anal as it only feature what I call the American DP. The European DP is usually both men from behind.
The biggest let down on LP was Emily Willis with a MMF and surpriingly no anal from the anal queen; again done in Americal. LP probably just wanted her name on the site. I still have a soft spot for Mina.
A suggestion and a fantasy – imagine a LP scene with several of their ordinary acts such as a lot of assfucking starting like this:
A sexy woman in a dress, stockings, and high heels sits at table pretending to be in a café. Several male waiters comes to her and without haste deliver their goods. Maybe it's african champagne, maybe some other flavor of white wine. They each have a glass they fill with their piss and thoughtfully commenting on colour and taste, comparing them, she drink it all without any drops ending up anywhere but in her tasting and swallowing mouth.
Then she ask the men to present themselves. They remove their pants and position themselves in various and asshole revealing positions as she is going to rim them all, which she does for some time.
Then she strip of her dress and the fucking starts.
After some time first piss and then semen are deposit in her ass and rigourosly collected in a large glass before she drinks it all.
Yes, these are depraved suggestions, but as far as I can understand hardly more than LP could consider, if they find actresses and actors willing to perform.
In response to some of the criticism discussed lately of Legalporno's practices:
Nobody seems to understand this, but "Legalporno" is not a porn studio. It is a distribution platform for many different, independent porn studios. Each content creator is a separate legal entity responsible for its own content and working practices. In that respect, it's pretty much like a web store version of Evil Angel. A lot of the criticisms levied against the monolithic "Legalporno" name over the years are actually criticisms of specific studios. You can't hold Gonzo responsible for what Sineplex may have done. You can't hold Interracial Vision responsible for what Giorgio might be doing. And so on...
I am not a representative of Legalporno, but I am familiar with how they work. There are no "shady LP business practices" or "squalid LP living conditions". There may be "shady [insert producer here] business practices" or "squalid [insert producer here] living conditions". It may seem like a small distinction at first, but it's really not. LP does not even fund other studios directly, apart from Gonzo (which is kind of "the mothership"), so I don't know why this idea continues to persist.
^I will tell you why and it's actually quite simple. The people who own the content are responsible for how it's made because if they didn't buy it then it wouldn't get made so since they are the ones paying for it then they should make sure that their producers follow a code of ethic that is as stringent as the one they follow. Of course this implies that the people behind LP follow a code of ethic but there lies the problem. The owners of LP are also the biggest content thieves on the planet so how much of their general attitude toward the porn industry affects the 3way they do business?
Even before Covid. Every scene felt so much the same. I also just want them to stop putting bright red lipstick on the girls in their washed out scenes. It looks horrible to me.
If they find out about a violation of their procedures, they move to fix it. Anecdotally, I have never seen or heard of "numbing gels" being used on any Gonzo or Sineplex set. (I do not know about any of the other studios because I have never worked with them or been to them.)Bigger than Mindgeek?
This is a tired subject that I do not wish to dredge up here, but suffice it to say that [THE TUBE SITE WHICH SHALL NOT BE NAMED] gave content owners the ability to report illegal uploads earlier than competitors. I'm no fan of tube sites, but given their ubiquity in the industry today, and the FACT that all of the most popular ones are owned by companies that also operate large "name" studios, I'd say that's a better record than certain others.
Problem with Legal Porno is...it's the very hardcore level so, few pornstar love this kind of stuff. I mean...no problem for me to watch a Charlotte Sartre, Anna de Ville or Sara Bell scene , seems like they enjoy it a lot. But others...
^ That's a fair point. You're never going to get Gabbie Carter on LP! It's not a problem if you see LP as something you dip into when you see a scene you do like. If the only porn out there was LP then the lack of variety would be an issue but it's mainly a niche site to be seen as part of the overall market.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 6:54AM
But the good thing for LP is that they have a completely numbed audience. They don't give a shit about seeing the 150th scene with Kira Thorn or the other 4-5 girls. LP could sell the same scene every day and people would buy it. That's a huge plus.
Yeaah...but i think whats turned on people (male or female) watching this is seeing a women loving gangbang and taking great pleasure. For example i find hookup hotshot more "hardcore" in some way and i don't like watching those scenes
^^ That's such a tired argument! Since the start of April there have been scenes involving more than 40.....YES 40 different girls! You might not like the content but that doesn't mean those who do are in some way intellectually inferior to you.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 8:02AM
When Skyeworld talks about a certain hardcore level, it's probably more about GG and GONZO. All this PORN WORLD, Outside the Studio and the rest of the filler stuff doesn't belong in this category IMO. And that GG shoots the same skinny girls over and over again, cannot be denied. You only have to look at how many girls have shot 60-80 scenes.
^ I know it's difficult for you to admit but a girl like Kira Thorn has had all those scenes spread across several years. She's only had 2 scenes on LP in the last 3 months and all those scenes are spread around a mountain of content featuring a huge number of girls with newer ones phased in all the time. If you were talking about 80 scenes on a site like Tushy well you would have a point. The sheer volume of content on sites like this mean its just not an issue! The bottom line is that if people don't like what is provided then they wouldn't cough up their hard-earned cash and the site would go broke. The counter argument to this appears to be that everyone who uses this site is some kind of Neanderthal that would know decent porn if it hit them in the face!
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 9:16AM
That's not what I'm saying. They want to see the same stuff over and over again. You can't tell me the 70-80 scenes of a girl are any different. Same girl, same guys, same room, same sofa, same sex. If you still demand scene number 81, you are, in my opinion, completely jaded, or hopelessly addicted. I was a big fan of Kristy Black, but I lost interest after 6-7 scenes. Because it's always the same scene at the end.
^ So how do you know.....from all the content available......that they're looking exclusively at the same girl? If that's what turns people on then what's the problem? It's so easy scaling up from your individual experience and then judging others who have different tastes. Believe me, my personal attitude to this is similar to yours. The difference between us is that I'm not judging people who see things different and saying they've got some kind of problem. Let's face it, there will be plenty of people out there judging you and me as having some kind of problem for looking at this stuff in the first place!
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 10:29AM
I base this opinion on the comments from their forum. A user once asked if 7 scenes with Anna de Ville within 3-4 weeks are not too much. The answer was very clear - more. More of the same. They always demand the same girls. As a result, all variety is killed. GG once commented on this topic. He will only shoot what is demanded and will sell best. And since LP fans only want to see tiny skinny teens, there is hardly anything else from the two big studios (GG/Gonzo). When was the last scene with Syren De Mer or Blanche Bradburry? Florane Russell once wrote that she would like to shoot for LP, but she doesn't get booked anymore. Nowadays, girls are requested who have only a certain height and weigh around 30 kg (66 lbs.). I think we' re getting close to a disturbing line.
If some guys have 'little girl' fantasies, it's kind of disturbing, but it' s their problem. But it affects the entire product. Someone like me, who wants to see something different from time to time, besides skinny, flat teens, goes away empty handed. And that's my problem with it.
^ I'd never gone on the Forums until now. They tend to be a sounding board for the more rabid and extreme views that are not really representative of the wider fan that subscribes to sites. You said that fans on the forum 'always demand the same girls...LP fans only want to see tiny skinny teens'. I went straight to the part of the Forum named 'GG Model Suggestions'. These are all of the most recent suggestions going back to the end of January:
London River, Brittany Bardot, Sindy Rose, Indica Flower, Holly Berry, Rayveness, Mariana Martix, Stacey Saran, Honour May, Tarra White
How many of these would you class as 'skinny teens'?!
In answer to your question of when certain of your favourite pornstars were last featured, well here's the answer: Florane Russell......January! (The latest of her 33 scenes) Syren De Mer....September (The latest of her 29 scenes) Blanche Bradbury......June (The latest of her 69 scenes)
Blanche Bradbury has been on around about the same number of times as Kira Thorn (who has been on once in the past 7 months).
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 8 2020 : 5:06PM
This suggestions part is not a real part of the forum. You can see this from the fact that girls are requested who have nothing to do with porn or who have resigned since 10 years. If directors would look at these suggestions, the output would look different. Here is an original quote from GG, where he was arguing with a guy who asked why GG only shoots scenes with skinny girls, and hardly any scenes with women with curves:I'm not making this up. A year ago, GG was shooting with all kinds of models. But the vast majority just bought scenes with very skinny girls. That's when GG stopped varying. That's what he wrote in different threads. There are also a few guys asking about American girls. The reaction was - please no. American girls are fat. If I had more time now, I could show you lots of threads where even skinnier girls (<66 lbs) are requested.
Since this stuff comes from multiple studios, why isn't any of it any good? If there are multiple production teams shooting scenes, the law of averages and sheer randomness should mean that you'd get a decent scene every now and then....but no.
^ I'm struggling to understand why you would subscribe and buy content from a site that you don't like. You are of course paying for whole scenes that you're commenting on aren't you?! If not how can you judge whether a scene is good or not?
OK, I'm not making this up either. Never mind the forum and people's impressions and bias, here are the FACTS about the content over the past 7 days. I've only included the scenes labelled Legalporno/Analvids and Gonzo.
In one week there were 35 YES 35 different girls used in their scenes. Yes, some were used more than once but who can argue that 35 isn't plenty of variety?
The average age of performers was 29! 11% of these were over 40 and 37% were 30 or above. How could anyone describe these performers as 'teens'?
As for 'Teens', only 10 of the girls were less than 25 (29%).
As for 'Skinny', only 8 were described as slim or skinny. That's 23%.
Most of the girls described as slim or skinny were in the younger end (6 out of 10).
So, out of 35 different girls featured on the site from the main producers of content (Legalporno/Analvids & Gonzo) only 17% were 'skinny teens'! The age range is a whopping 19 to 47 and even a casual look through shows a big range of body types.
Don't get me wrong - looking through the scenes as I have done means that I am aware that a few of the models are, in my opinion, unhealthily small and underweight, to the point where I find it painful to watch. I don't understand why some people find that sexy but I'm not sure I really have the right to admonish them. Others would probably decry things that I like! It is also true that, whatever GG has said on the forum, that there are some 'big' girls in amongst the 35, probably as many as those who are skinny. It's absolutely not true that all of the girls on this site are 'skinny teens' or even the majority.
If you want cheering up then watch the recently released scene from the 31 year old Finnish stunner Kanuski Kakku. In amongst all the scenes that do nothing for me the odd one like this one keeps me coming back for a look!
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 9 2020 : 2:59AM
I won't go back on my opinion. The current stuff is old stuff. GG hasn't shot any new scenes for weeks. But even the last month there's only one scene with e.g. Milfs. And they're skinny too.
Only Lara De Santis does not fit into the picture. Variety is also when there are many types of girls. But you won't find a bubble butt, or bigger breasts or curves. Or can you see a difference between Nikki Riddle, Alita Angel, Sweetie Plum, Monika Wild, Lana Bunny or Anya Akulova? I can't see any.
^ In response, let me quote for you the wise words of 'evilpineapples' above who actually has experience of working with 'Legalporno'.
'Nobody seems to understand this, but "Legalporno" is not a porn studio. It is a distribution platform for many different, independent porn studios. Each content creator is a separate legal entity responsible for its own content and working practices. In that respect, it's pretty much like a web store version of Evil Angel. A lot of the criticisms levied against the monolithic "Legalporno" name over the years are actually criticisms of specific studios.'
You're entitled to your opinions, even though none of them are supported by facts. You started by criticising 'Legalporno' and their fans and when you were shown to be incorrect in your assertions you've moved onto just one of the LP producers who very clearly doesn't represent all of the LP content. Even if you look just at the GG scenes that you highlight, your argument still doesn't hold. You said that ALL of the Legalporno scenes feature skinny teens, that's not even true for this small selection!. One or two clearly are, but what you seem to be confusing is 'skinny' and 'small tits'. Your real argument seems not to be against 'skinny teens' but all women who are slim or have small tits! You're choosing to put them all together for the sake of your 'opinion'.
The irony here is that it's quite obvious that you and I actually like and dislike pretty much exactly the same sort of porn!
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Apr 9 2020 : 5:36AM
Last thing I'm gonna say about that. I know that LP is not a studio. But I think LP stands for a certain niche (dap) and this niche is mainly carried by GG. And when users talk about LP porn, they mostly talk about GG porn. And when a girl writes on Twitter that she's shooting for LP, you automatically assume GG. And he himself has explained several times that skinny girls sell best and that he no longer 'experiments'. I can see that in the output and in the fact that he hasn't shot girls for a long time, which he did very often 1-2 years ago.
These things ebb and flow. The dominant studio on LP was originally Sineplex, then Gonzo took its place after "the big split" behind the scenes, and finally Giorgio became the big kid on campus about 2-3 years ago. DAP was originally not even that prominent on the site and only became really big, to the point that it is featured in almost every scene, about 2-3 years ago.
When I was with Sineplex, there was one model (Arwen Gold) who shot DAP like it was going out of style, but for almost everybody else it was a special event and a rarity when they did it.
I swear... People forget the past so easily...
Edited by - evilpineapples on 4/9/2020 10:16:23 AM
^ Yep, the abundance of DAP is exactly why I have spent much less on LP than I used to. So much softcore tip fucking. I actually like watching women get fucked, sadly that is more and more a lost art on LP.
This is why AA is my favorite studio, hardcore anal/DP penetration and no DAP!
Last word from me also. Perhaps you could have just said that you want more women with big tits in Giorgio's DAP scenes and spared us all the rant. I'll content myself browsing the content from Giorgio's Lab, Gonzo, Analvids and American Anal. You should give it a go. Might find one or two scenes you'd like! Strange how others on here seem to realise LP is more than just the scenes labelled 'Giorgio Grandi' which account for only around a quarter of the scenes posted on Legalporno.
Posted - Mar 14 2020 : 10:30AM
