One thing you fail to realize is that the Mr Anal scenes now being offered are MUCH better quality than the original 720P versions available on Bangbros.com site. Sure, you could join Bangbros for a flat fee and download the subpar 720p version, or pay a little more to download them in high quality 1080P on LP. If quality doesnt matter at all, which seems to be the case for you, then yes, it would be cheaper to join the individual sites.
I spent about 20 minutes counting the scenes LP released per month since November of last year and here is the breakdown. Nov: 63, Dec: 66, Jan: 63, Feb: 54, Mar: 64, Apr: 75, May: 68, Jun: 110, July: 131 and Aug: 138. I could go further back but I suspect that all I'm going to find is that LP used to put out on average about 2 exclusive scenes per day but that this year they started to add more scenes but those additions aren't really new scenes but new to LP. To give you a better idea. In July LP had about 42 scenes that weren't their own so much as leased material and in Aug the number was 66 so while you are correct that LP has not reduced their exclusive content output. The increase in output is primarily from leased material and in too many cases it's really old material. Now some may argue that since you are still getting the same number of exclusive scenes per month then there is nothing wrong with what LP is doing but these people are wrong for one simple fact. LP is a ticket based site so how many people are currently wasting their tickets on scenes that are neither exclusive or new but leased and old? The only way I will consider LP to be an honest business is if they change their business model and charge all their member a monthly fee for all the content. Otherwise adding leased material that requires that members use their tickets to purchase is just bad business.
Maybe they are in a better resolution but the difference between 720p and 1080p is not that big of a deal. If it's a good porn scene than it's going to be just as good in 540p as it is in higher resolution. In the same way. If it's a crappy video then the higher resolution isn't going to make it any better. I also can't help but point out that it cost members 2.1 tickets to buy those Mr Anal videos so that comes to about 2$ per video or if you buy them individually then it's 1$ per video for a total of 19$ for all of them. You can join BB for 25$ and you will get a lot more videos than what you can with Mr Anal.
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Aaron Aardvark Deactivated User
Arkansas 53 Posts 12/04
Posted - Sep 22 2018 : 4:04PM
Pat, you are changing your argument. You had said that they were using this old material to replace what used to be exclusive material. I disputed that and now you seem to have conceded the point but shifted across to a new point. I agree that LP oughtto do more to differentiate the mew material from the old material. I will say I have bought one of their MrAnal scenes to compare it to my Bang Bros copy and the difference in quality (not just the resolution but noise and artifacting) is readily apparent. That said, I am not about to soend 2 tickets per scene to upgrade dozens of scenes I already own. However, it is cloud cuckoo land to think they could maintain the output they do of expensive to produce scenes on a flat rate membership, whereby you just join once a year for a month and leech everytjing off the site. If that is what you want them to do then what you are saying is you want them to cease production of their current material and do something in line with what all the other companies are doing.
Wow, could not possibly disagree with you more! You are happy with SD quality videos, that says everything about your opinions and bias regarding LP. I only join sites that offer their content in 4K for the most part, some of us care about video quality!
^You are correct that we have very different opinions on what is important in porn if you think 4K is the only type of resolution you download. I must also point out that I wasn't talking about 4K but 720p and 1080p.
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Aaron Aardvark Deactivated User
Arkansas 53 Posts 12/04
Posted - Sep 24 2018 : 3:10AM
So you think 540 is just as good as 1080 but then there IS magically some discernable difference between 1080 and 4K?? Am I dreaming this thread? Is this all a dream?
^Where to start??? 1-Just read the post above yours to see that I only compared resolution between 720p and 1080p. 2-My mention of 540p was in regards to appreciation of a porn scene. If it's good then it's going to be good in any resolution in the same way that if it's bad then higher resolution will not make it any better. 3-I don't know about you but I don't watch a porn scene for the resolution it is released under but for the actual content so while some people will only download and watch higher resolution videos. I won't because I grew up watching porn that was not remotely close to HD. In fact most of my favorite movies and videos are probably no better than 480p. 4-I argue that in many ways high resolution has made porn less enjoyable in some aspect (at least for me) because it can't help but highlight every visible imperfection a performer has. Razor burns, pimples and other skin blemishes always existed but they weren't front and center in porn scenes because the camera was not able to see them. I'm even willing to go as far as say that photo shop is primarily used to cover all the imperfections that high resolution now capture and which might doom the careers of very popular models.
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iwan-gbfan Deactivated User
287 Posts 5/14
Posted - Sep 24 2018 : 12:53PM
New found glory, all downhill from here. Good night and good luck.
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Aaron Aardvark Deactivated User
Arkansas 53 Posts 12/04
Posted - Sep 24 2018 : 1:47PM
I don't understand your point then Pat. The discussion was about Mr Anal scenes being available on LP at higher resolutions AND bitrates. Your response appeared to suggest that such upgrades are practically worthless. It is true a poor Mr Anal scene will still be a poor scene and a good scene will still be a great scene. Indeed, you could paint creosote across your monitor and it would not affect the quality of the scene you have now obscured from vision. So what was your point if it was not to suggest that video image upgrades are worthless/ unnecessary?
There's a strange moment in the scene titled 'Rest in Piss Part 1' with Charlotte Sartre and Lydia Black. It happens just after the two men come into the scene at around the 10:40 mark. The guy who goes up to Lydia seems to startle her and he grabs her by the throat and pushes her back against the wall and then pushes her into a sitting position. She looks genuinely afraid. The guy then goes to slap her face and she starts to cry. The guy then speaks to her and kisses her head and she laughs about it. Before she starts to laugh about it the camera starts to pull away as if the cameraman knows that there is something wrong. This isn't in the trailer and unfortunately it is too long to make a GIF. Here are some screenshots from the incident though. I didn't know if these would violate the photo policy so I've linked to them rather than posting them. https://imgur.com/a/UZoWtDA For anyone interested in buying this scene my recommendation is that you only buy Part 2 unless you really want to see the crying incident. The two parts share a lot of duplicate footage. I'm not sure if the pissing and piss drinking parts are available in the US but all the pissing happens in part 2. Also, when the pissing starts the first two guys to piss in Lydia's mouth and on her face both piss like they're firehoses. Charlotte gets a mere trickle but Lydia takes two massive and long streams. It's enough piss that it made me think it was faked but the camera moves back a couple of times and it doesn't look fake. Pissing screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/1dvsnvr
^ The girl who's getting choked looks clearly scared, it's abuse. This kind of behaviour is unacceptable. Edited by - Secret Guy on 10/5/2018 3:43:16 PM
Nothing of what you wrote is true. Taken from the LP forum Charlotte wrote "I did not faint but Lydia did :D it was so sexy" I thought it was obvious from watching the scene.
^ I wondered about that. Lydia does seem to briefly go unconscious but I wasn't sure so I didn't mention that. comm ^^ Secret Guy - I think this is more a case of not communicating before the scene. LP isn't a 'glamcore' site and Lydia has done some hard stuff. But when the guy grabs her by her throat that seems to shock her. But she does laugh it off seconds later.
^I'll use you post instead of up arrows to answer all the different portions of this discussion. 1-If a performer passes out in a porn scene than the scene should immediately be stopped because that basically means that blood flow to the brain was interrupted and that is never a good thing. It's even worse here because unless she had a medical condition prior to the shoot that might cause her to faint then it is something that occurred during the shoot. In this case you all seem to imply chocking by another performer which means that someone squeezed her throat so hard that oxygen and blood flow were significantly reduced for a period long enough to make the performer faint. 2-I somehow doubt that there is a lot of pre-planning in your average LP shoot because they all look like free flowing extreme penetration shoots. The performers are probably told what to expect from the guys and they know what kind of penetration they are about to attempt (or as is usually the case do) but I seriously doubt that it's possible to explain just what they are about to experience. The best a producer can do is show videos of past shoot but seeing is still very different than doing. 3-Lydia has at least 9 previous shoots with LP and everyone of them involved some extreme circus acts so the fact that you say she looked scared tends to point to something very serious occurring during that shoot that was beyond the norm for her.
Hey man, I'm new to this thread so maybe this has been explained before but what's up with all of the double anal scenes at LP where the guys don't even touch the pussy? One or more perfectly good pussies in the scene and still you have 2 or sometimes 3 guys ALL trying to stick their dick in the chicks asshole. I like anal as much as the next guy but why sword fight in the booty when you can fuck the pussy? Is this a Euro thing?
So their primary fan base are people who just want to see chicks take it in the ass? Never mind the pussy, huh? When I first started watching their stuff a year or so ago every scene contained some pussy fucking. Then over time I noticed that I was seeing more of their 0% pussy stuff. That's what they called it. At least they let you know in the title. Now it seems like they don't even name it anymore. That you should just take it as a given that there will be only asshole fucking in our movies. Crazy man.
^While I agree with everything you wrote. It's more accurate to say that LP's one true niche is DAP and the less common TAP. LP would never survive if they switched to only shooting anal or dp.
^^ At LP it's totally sales driven. With their ticket system they know exactly what sells/is popular. DAP sells...at least for the time being. If DP starts to sell better then that becomes the focus.
Me and other members at the LP forum write regularly for more DP action and less DAP . Sometimes though the majority seems overwhelming and we start to post less ( especially if we don´t get enough scenes ) ...
id prefer that personally 1 cock in the pussy and 1 in the ass looks far better than 2 in the ass however every now and then would be ok.......recent scenes there is far too much double anal and some girls are ok with it but some clearly dislike it which for me ruins the scene............BRS
I agree. The DAP is cool, but not as the ONLY thing. These dudes don't even trifle with the pussy. And what kind of dudes fuck chicks and would rather sword fight their friend in the booty instead of getting the pussy? At least take turns. I don't get it. Of course the DAP is going to sell if that's all they put out. It's crazy man.
It all just seems very repetitive... same scene, different girl. Not fans, but different strokes for different folks.
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umberto Deactivated User
34 Posts 10/18
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 4:40AM
It could be worse. Imagine someone like khan tusion directing lp videos. Then it would be absolutely terrible. Basically then it turns into an unwatchable pile of shit. Edited by - umberto on 11/6/2018 4:42:56 AM
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 8:29AM
Every director has his own style, so most scenes (from the same director) look the same. As much as I like Mason, but every scene looks the same. Girl+white couch+Mick Blue. But that's okay, you can't reinvent the wheel every time.
^^^It's actually much worse because while it's true that they still get plenty of new women doing DAP. The reality is that LP has to keep going to the same women all the time to do the deed because I think most women don't want to have two or more dicks shoved in their asses at the same time. ^^It wouldn't work because most performers can't speak enough English to allow the kind of porn Khan was known for.
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Aaron Aardvark Deactivated User
Arkansas 53 Posts 12/04
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 12:25PM
There is some truth in this. That said, I am amazed just how many women will stretch themselves (professionally AND physically) in this way and give these scenes a go. I think back to when I started watching porn 30 years ago and I compare a site like LP to Private scenes/films back in the day, and it is literally +1 cock in the ass (vag only is now anal, anal is double anal and double is triple). They must be doing something right though to have gotten so many very attractive women to regularly make such hard scenes.
10 years ago (let along 30) gangbangs, dps, blowbangs were considered such a taboo act. Now it's harder to find pornstars who haven't done them than those who have. And most of the ones that haven't have it planned out for the future since it's considered the natural progression in a pornstar's career these days.
oh man, i agree, back in the day there was so much variety and women were completely naked with their bare feet n toes in the scenes (these scenes are less popular now and people want more and more scenes with high heels and lingeries which i have respect for but also have respect for those who love to see the natural skin), i dont think lp is concerned if they will fade away by going at the current rate, recently they keep releasing old scenes of ddfnetwork as if they were new, whod fall for that really? lp has gotten really boring, i dont know what else to say! Edited by - mkurat on 11/16/2018 1:02:50 AM
I sometimes buy DAP scenes when they feature other acts I like ( Double blowjob + DP , Foot visibility ) , but I´d rather have them as DP scenes instead . Now I see an increased tendency for more fisting scenes . [o\|] Well , maybe that was previsible .... ( Along with increasing piss scenes etc ) Thankfully , there is the the soft studio GP ( Glamour Porn ) , which has a style similar to DDF ( sharing scenes ) and 21sextury . I feel they should publish more DP scenes , and sometimes when I post about it , some users at the LP-forum get angry and say that it goes against the " true spirit " of LP , since it should not contain vanilla sex according to them ... ( They prefer to have GP eliminated ) My point is that there are so many new models popping up there starting with DAP , without having done a soft BG scene or a normal DP scene . The extremist users are fine with that , but when I ask how these models can get better known to a wider audience with mainstream tastes ( by doing more soft scenes on LP ) , they get angry and defend their ultra extreme-anal and pushing-the-border type of sex bias ... Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 11/19/2018 12:35:14 PM Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 11/19/2018 12:41:47 PM
^I think the inclusion of fisting was always a guaranteed once LP went full-on DAP because if a woman can take two or more dicks in her ass without screaming in pain then taking a smaller fist is not a problem. Since it's common to have two or more women in the same scene then why not have some fisting to the scene and add fans of that fetish to your roster of customers. I'd also like to point out that since Kink has significantly dropped shooting fisting content then you now have a vacuum on that type of porn. I'm not a big fan of DAP porn and even less the kind that LP does but it can be stimulating when a woman is willing to push her limits. Sadly I don't think this is what most LP performers are doing so much as taking a job that probably pays well above what they could get elsewhere. I'm even less thrilled to see brand new performers to the industry do those extreme acts for LP because that is likely to be career suicide because every other studio looking to hire those women will know that she has already done stuff that only established performers choose to do later in their career. I wish someone would tell them not to work for LP but money is hard to pass up. Especially if you happen to live in a part of the world where LP is about the only major porn studio.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Nov 20 2018 : 1:05PM
@Airtight_fanatic LP is niche. LP is about "extreme" sex acts. People pay to say DAP and fisting and piss and all that stuff. If it's not your cup of tea don't watch it. You more into soft and gentle anal or dp? Mason, JJ, Lansky and his Kingdom of Boredom, several other EU studios and and and. You are not forced to watch LP. Your options are manifold.
So there are large groups of guys that only like to watch DAP with no pussy? Wow. Interesting. Can somebody drop a link to the LP forum? I have to see this.
I would like them to return to the DP action, I don't like DAP much. But I still like LP because is the only place where I can find girls swallowing anal creampies from other's girl asshole. It is something very hard to find nowadays. I would like to see mainstream stars doing it. Also, the pissing scenes are nice and almost all the girls swallow cum in her scenes.
the browmer the better---and piss all over them, that is what LP is all about---come on LP, outdo yourselves, you euro-mafiosos
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Tushyboy Deactivated User
56 Posts 12/18
Posted - Dec 13 2018 : 2:03PM
I consider Legal Porno violent porn aimed at men who actually hate women. No man who loves and respects women would watch their stuff, because it is obvious that the male performers treat their female partners like crap in these videos. Although I'm not surprised by this, since I've read earlier in this thread that some of the male talents did gay porn before joining Legal Porno. It is a fact, that some gay performers, not all of them, hate women. So why not just work for a company which produces straight porn and treat the girl as bad as legally possible. And I bet Giorgia Grande hates women too or otherwise he wouldn't produce this violent crap. I love Anna De Ville, but I'm disappointed that she did work for Legal Porno. Anna De Ville and her amazing butthole should be worshipped and treated with respect, but not fucked by women hating maniacs.
^ I understand, but if some the females don't mind and enjoy it, is it still abuse then? I discovered Tina Kay from these scenes and she seems to enjoy every second of it.
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Tushyboy Deactivated User
56 Posts 12/18
Posted - Dec 13 2018 : 2:56PM
We may disagree on this one, but for me it is still abuse. Sometimes I wonder, do they really enjoy how they are treated in Legal Porno flicks or are they just doing it for the next paycheck?
I appreciate your sentiment but unless you've never watched porn before now then I can assure you that LP porn is not even remotely violent. It may be very extreme but violent porn involves slapping, chocking, spitting and a slew of other things that are usually non-existent in LP porn. Take a look at the stuff that Facial abuse and Latin Abuse do to get a better idea of what can constitute violent porn. I'd also like to point out what should be obvious to anyone watching porn. The performers don't decide what happens in the scene. That's the job of the producer/director. That doesn't mean that some performers aren't douchebags but it has nothing to do with their sexual orientation. Of course some male performers are on some female performers no list but it may be for many different reasons that have nothing to do with their on-set attitude.