Yeah well, it was probably meant as a "joke". At least he took the mask off during the scene. Because latex gloves look so sexy on a girl's butt. Morons.
^I'm okay with this being a joke as you claim. It's not funny but we all deal with this in different ways. The problem is if it was filmed after the industry was shutdown because then it's not a joke but a serious problem.
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Posted - May 5 2020 : 9:08AM
Until the lockdown which does vary in different countries would anybody have come up with the idea of a mask and gloves. Sell Yout Girlfriend beat LP to the punch. I notice also Heavy on Hotties has joined their distribution. Now there's a site where he tells the girls, porn is the only way a fat man can have sex with nubile young girls.
This got kind of lost in the weeds and I didn't see it. It was not my intention to tease you.
Sineplex had major problems with money, and specifically with paying performers and crew on time in the amount that they were promised. This is not a secret and has been criticized justifiably, both on ADT as well as LP's own forums in the past. There was behind-the-scenes chaos with certain personalities too, but a lot of that is very private and I do not think it is appropriate to discuss in detail.
I've made my own mistakes in this business, including mistakes with money, but nothing so egregious as what Sineplex did. Refusing to pay people is pretty bad.
DAP is very hard on models. I'll start off by saying that I have never personally enjoyed watching DAP, I haven't shot it since the Sineplex days, and I don't think it's a particularly safe activity for most models to participate in, unless they really know what they're doing as far as preparation is concerned. I don't even see how it's erotic, to be perfectly honest with you. It just seems uncomfortable for all parties involved.
But let's back up for a second here. Here are the facts: Florane had a bad experience working on DAP scenes. Those scenes were shot for studios that publish on LP.
Okay. We have established the facts.
She clearly does not like DAP and has had problems from doing those scenes. I don't want to minimize that. Her experience is valid, and there are valid questions to be asked here, but I don't think one model's bad experience is enough to tar & feather an entire site. Many other models have done DAP without any problems, and many of them specifically did DAP for LP. Have you ever been to a porn set? I have spent many days on "LP" sets (more on those quotation marks in a little bit...), and if the model ever asks to stop shooting, they stop immediately. No questions asked. No explanation necessary. Boundaries are respected; everyone involved in the shoot is there by choice, and everything expected of them is communicated clearly ahead of the shoot. If problems develop during the shoot, all the model must do is speak up, and those problems will be addressed which could entail canceling the entire scene, if necessary.
It sounds like in this instance, there was a failure of communication somewhere. We don't know who knew what, and at what stage they found out, or if they ever found out in the first place. Florane Russell does not enjoy shooting DAP scenes, but when did she start developing problems? Why did she continue booking those scenes if she was having problems? Did she feel pressured to do so? By whom? Did she communicate any of these problems to her agent? To LP? To the director of the scene? What was done to address her concerns? We don't have the answers to any of these questions, nor is it likely that we will get them. We are certainly not entitled to them. In my view, we cannot judge this situation in a vacuum, so that's the end of that.
But let's get off our high horses for just a second and back up even further, and acknowledge that DAP itself is not evil. Just because a person watches DAP porn does not mean they are a heartless monster or indifferent to the suffering of humanity. I suppose you could say that about someone if you know that they are watching a model's scenes after becoming aware of the problems she had, but are you going to apply that to everybody who watches any DAP scene involving any performer, across the board? Many other models have nothing but positive things to say about their time working with LP. Some of them are effusive in their praise. So let's just ignore their voices? One model had a bad experience, so it's time to criticize the entire site?
I see no evidence of abuse here. I do see evidence of poor communication, and a model who had ongoing bad experiences doing scenes that she should not have been doing, which is unfortunate and should ideally never happened. However, we should really be asking why so many of those scenes were shot if she was having problems. We should not immediately come down on either side of the issue, especially (as I emphasize again) when many other models have had positive experiences working in similar scenes with the same company. I'll say this: If LP knew she was having major problems, they should have stopped booking her, but we don't know if they knew that. We don't know if they knew anything. We don't have enough information, which is precisely my point.
I'll also re-iterate that "LP" as a studio does not exist. It is a platform for many independent studios to publish their content, much like Evil Angel. There's Gonzo, Giorgio Grandi, Interracial Vision, American Anal, and many others. The sets I visited were not the same sets on which Florane worked, and I can't vouch for every single studio on that site because I have not been to all of them. I don't know all of their working practices. Talking about "LP" under one umbrella as if it is a single, monolithic production house is meaningless and only confuses the conversation.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - May 8 2020 : 2:58AM
^^You are in this business and will therefore always defend it. It's part of your job.
I cannot judge, only form my own opinion. But one has read many horrible stories about porn sets. Stories how girls were treated like cattle. And that does not only concern Europe. We all know the names and reports, and no one gives a damn... except Mason. For me the porn business has always been a dark place.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - May 8 2020 : 11:19AM
Nothing will ever change. Because it's about money. Studios, like any other industry, want to make as much money as possible with little effort. And a lot of girls have no other choice because they need the money.
What SHOULD be changed.
Take your foot off the pedal. I have read reports where scenes went on for hours and the girls were in pain. Does it have to be like this? Stop booking assholes. There were stories (and photos) about aggressive, reckless guys. And as I said, it's not just about European studios. We all know the names, we know the statements and photos of the girls. And yet you see these guys in every other scene, because they work for peanuts and directors don't give a damn about it....dark place. Mason is the only one who stopped booking these guys and certainly not without reason.
I do not always act morally here either. Some of my posts are also overly harsh. But we're talking about actual, physical violence. Humiliation.
You were criticizing LP specifically, so are American performers relevant here? I assume you're talking about Markus, but you weren't specific. Well, it's been years since Markus shot for LP. I've heard the stories, and I agree that there are problems with him, but he's not relevant to LP because he does not shoot with them anymore.
Yes, the porn industry is about money, but I don't think it is either correct or fair to the studios to say that models never have a choice... Yes, I said "fair to the studios"... Because responsibility is shared. If a model is informed about a scene ahead of time and knows exactly what is expected of her, and she feels uncomfortable but chooses to participate anyway for the money, then who should take responsibility for that choice? How can the studio know that she is uncomfortable? How can the studio do more than what they are doing already to protect her?
Nobody needs to do porn. A model can always choose to say no to a scene that she does not want to shoot. She can even stop doing porn and do something else for money. I know it is controversial to say these things out loud these days, for some reason, but responsibility is not one-sided. I do recognize the power dynamic of an employer over their employer, but models have agency to make their own choices. Can studios do more to encourage that from them? Yes, but do you have any constructive suggestions for what form that may take? Speaking for myself, before any shoot, I always go over "dos and don'ts" with all of the performers in the presence of the entire set, so that everybody hears what is said, and then I make sure each performer understands the sexual acts and degree of roughness that will be expected of them. Consent needs to be explicit. I want to hear a clear "yes" from everyone, not silence.
With that in mind, I think studios (in general) are doing more than they have ever done to promote a safe and sensitive environment for models to speak out, but they're not omniscient. Models do still have to speak out, and that is their responsibility to themselves. At some point, if a model explicitly says "yes" to doing something she is not actually comfortable doing, we have to acknowledge that it was her responsilbity to say "no". Somehow, that's controversial to some people, but you can't hold a studio accountable for someone else's bad decisions.
Let's bring this back to Florane. There are still many things we do not know about her specific experience. Did she say "yes" each time, or was she silent? Did she voice concerns or even tell anyone about the problems she was having? We don't know! We don't have the information! I know many of the people at LP and they are not monsters. While I have not discussed this specifically with them, I can tell you just from knowing them that they do not feel good about her story. Nobody wants any model to have a bad experience.
So I'll ask you again, and I want to emphasize this time that I am asking you genuinely and not trying to "trap" you: What should be done specifically in the case of LP to prevent another Florane Russell situation? Make a constructive suggestion that actually applies to LP. You feel strongly about the issue, so help to solve it.
Edited by - evilpineapples on 5/8/2020 12:43:39 PM
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Posted - May 8 2020 : 2:27PM
I didn't want to give you the impression that it was a pure LP problem and I didn't want to associate any actors with LP. I think it's a general problem.I am of the opinion that a director should have a sense for when things go too far within a scene. When male performers overdo it. One girl wrote in the LP Forum that she had to fist fuck herself in the ass with another girl for over an hour. Every girl has her limit and limits seem to be exceeded regularly. And some things are certainly not discussed before.If it were that simple, there would be no prostitution or pornography. One should just not take advantage of this situation.Florane asked if other scenes were possible. Outside of DAP. One director didn't react, the other refused. And here I thought that studios should rethink their direction. Everything has to become more and more extreme. Always taking it to the next level. Now I'll be brutally honest with you. Part of the LP audience seems to be psychotic. Stuff what is demanded in their forum. Humiliations, fantasies of violence, 50 vs. 1 etc. If you follow up on that, you will read more and more of such experiences and find less and less girls who still want to shoot for their studios. But in general, I'd say shift down a gear, know the limits of the girls and keep your male actors under control.
Here's a report on a girl's experience. You have to scroll down a little. I find it shocking and incredibly unprofessional.
https://verakingx.tumblr.com/
'How To Be A Porn Star'
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Posted - May 9 2020 : 5:40AM
Anal is a strange subject. Riley Reed held out for years. One of my favourite is Cumming in America when Rocco Siffredi tries and fails to convince Riley to take his cock in the arse despite getting her really worked up. Maybe it was the businesswoman in her. But since she did the first anal she has done many more including DA.
Now Emily Willis does more anal and lesbian scenes than vaginal scenes and the odd golden shower which Riley Reed has not AFAIK. Some girls seem to prefer anal to vag; does it hurt less? Hayley Reed did a double vag in the first ever episode of PureTaboo, never worked for them again except in Lesbian scenes although has done plenty of MMF for other studios.
As for the men in the Vera King interview she said the men use injections. Did she mean Lidocaine spray to retain erection?
Oh I forgot about gay porn; does it hurt? Do they do double anal? I never watch it although I do like the odd BISex where the girl is DP'd and not just the obligatory threeway one on top of the other. Has LP ventured into bisex?
It's rare, but it does occur. You'd think it would be more common in gay porn since guys are bigger and would probably be able to handle it better than a more petite woman
I have no problem with the trans content. I can see where someone could be disappointed if they're not into trans stuff and it looked like the production of cis content was suffering because there was too much focus on trans stuff (cough, Jay Sin), but that doesn't appear to be happening at LP, so what's the problem?
I feel some of that influence but then spend a week or two watching average MF BJ porn.
What I like about LP is that they recreated the late 90s/early 2000s style of porn, like RedLightDistrict, PlatinumX, Anabolic, Diabolic, and Tim Von Swine. It's just natural girls, crazy rough sex, high heels, and facials. Can't be beat.
The person running the site made a thread asking people for criticisms and then systematically closed down and/or deleted every area of criticism he found too close to the mark.
Some disclosure: 1) This is a website I have been a member of for many years (in fact I had TWO membership accounts i was spending so much there) 2) It is a website i have defended here and elsewhere 3) i have now apparently been "permanently banned" from the forum for, in my eyes, making awkward criticisms that the owner would rather not have on show
I can no longer say this is a site i would recommend. Much has changed and it has taken on a somewhat different flavour, certainly not an out and out "scam" (they DO sell a genuine product and advertise the price accurately) but from a site that seemed intent on making plentiful hard porn at prices that were reasonable but allowed for a good profit to just an exercise in seeing how much they can milk out of their customer base through huge hikes in prices.
Three things have happened related to this: 1) every day the site no uploads half a dozen or more somewhat grotty scenes, many of which look like they were filmed with a potato, at fantasy prices. For a site where their "premium studio" scenes used to sell for 3-4 tickets for an hour long scene, these amateur and amateurish scenes often run at 6-12 tickets often for as little as ten minutes of material, some of which you can even get for free elsewhere. 2) The owner has bought Private studio and uploaded the entire back catalogue. Some of these scenes are up to twenty years old, in SD definition yet are priced at up to 12 tickets for a single scene. To put that in perspective, a full 20 year old movie would be around fifty tickets, or $20-25. For a twenty year old movie. In SD. 3) The main/premium studios have all hiked up their prices considerably. A single girl scene that maybe would have cost 2-3 tickets at one time may now cost 5-6. Yes, pretty much a 100% price increase.
So it was my comments on the latter issue that got me banned. My issue was largely that the owner (alongside Grandi and others) have repeatedly told the forum members how well the website is doing. Anyone complaining about anything is informed how sales and membership are much higher than in the past and so they must be doing something right. So sales are through the roof, compared to 2-3 years ago, yet apparently the only way the owner etc can make any kind of profit now is if we all pay twice as much per scene? So i took issue with this and left the following comment, since deleted by him.
It isn't just a matter of money but that many of us don't like being treated like we have "DAFT C*NT" written across our foreheads.. Everywhere else in the entire world economics of production works like this: 1) small sales volume; to recoup costs and turn a profit unit sales price must be high 2) As sales volume increases the costs per unit decreases and profits can be made at a lower price. Now you would think that for porn, as the costs of production are almost entirely independent of the number of units sold (unlike producing a physical item like a washing machine or a car) and fixed, that if you greatly increase sales you would be able to sell the scenes more cheaply and still make a bigger profit? Right? If 1000 sales break you even then 2000 sales give you 1000 sales of pure profit. We also know that whenever anyone makes a post claiming that LP is losing members that xxx, Giorgio etc eagerly inform us how it has more members and bigger sales than ever before, much larger than a couple of years ago. And yet miraculously, in defiance of the economics rules that apply across the entire rest of the business world, somehow a scene that sold for 3 tickets and sold to x customers now needs to cost 6 tickets despite selling to a greatly increased number of people. Amazing that isn't it? It is an economic miracle! They must have just been losing millions and millions of euros all this time. That is all i can assume. Giorgio has somehow managed to expand his operation from a standing start despite what must have been crippling and constant financial losses, whilst xxx must have been running this like a billionaire football club owner just throwing millions on the fire for the sheer love of watching porn be made! Finally, now the site is overrun with crap and tat like some kind of shit clips site they can start to make some money back. At least they can if anyone manages to spot their scenes amongst the fifty daily "outside the studio" scenes, seemingly filmed on a potato, costing 8 tickets for 12 minutes etc. I am just here to see what happens next nowadays. I can't even be bothered to spend my tickets.
Several people agreed but the owner deleted it, alongside anyone who quote responded to it. he also lied, representing it as giving him a lecture in economic theory to demand he reduced his prices as that would make him more money (it did neither: I don't deny he maybe can make more money gouging his customers with a 100% price increase, i just don't like it being dressed up as the only way he can break even). i made a response post to his thread-locking flounce and that got me banned.
So ok, banned from commenting there is no biggie. However, I DO want people who are considering spending their money their to be VERY VERY CAREFUL. What was, up until recently, simply probably the most expensive membership porn site you are likely to encounter ... but with material to justify it ... has now effectively become almost TWICE as expensive as it already was and that cost is being hidden by making the premium scenes look cheap in comparison to the daily flood of "outside the studio" crap and decades old material from other sites priced way way way above it's value. If you want to join there, invest in a good calculator and never go on there drunk (oh, and NEVER misclick - one wrong button press and you could accidentally buy the ENTIRE Private back catalogue for around $20,000... and yes, they keep your card details on file for instant one-click purchases).
I am late and lost the new posts on the LP forum from the last days , so I did not see many of the comments you refer to ... ):
I would have liked to see some of the erased posts agreeing with yours , namely the logic that says that they are/were running successfully , so it would be logical to maintain the same low price ( or even cheaper ) . Maybe some of the users from there can come here ( or to the EBI forum ) and provide some of the viewpoints that are not welcomed at LP .
That said I still have tix and plan to continue using them , and I like the system of promoting/rewarding models/scenes/acts that are according to my taste .
The "Outside The Studio" scenes are overpriced, but are actually self-produced (and priced) by the performers, I don't think LP have too much responsability on this (expect allowing them). They are still cheap compared to other similar platforms like ManyVids. As for me, I am not interested in them, both for their price and their quality, and I filter them. Same with 20 y.o. Private scenes, who cares? About the price increase, it actually happened in 2018, not now. And the scenes at 2-3 tickets date even back, in 2013-4 (and to be frank, IMHO the contents improved a lot since then).
We can certainly complain against LP prices, but most of the blame should go to the other companies, their "supposed" competitors... after all these years LP is still the only choice for some kind of porn, the sole company producing and releasing on daily basis gonzo gang bangs, DP scenes, DAPs etc. They actually have a monopoly. The day they will have some kind of serious competitor, we'll very likely see prices decrease considerably (and we as customers will have more choises).
Does anyone know what the situation with Interracial Vision is? Considering putting my relationship with the site on ice till then. Is there a timeline where they shoot for it's return or things opening up?
I doubt they'll ever have a competitor. For one thing their requirement that just about every one of their model go the extreme anal penetration route means that only a small amount of women are open to it and by extension need to paid significantly more than what other studios pay for standard anal penetration. Then there is the sheer number of videos they upload per week which adds to their porn producing budget and again that puts them in a category all by themselves.
Big ups to Gonzo for the latest scene with that Colombian dime Martina. Since IV fell off I've been losing interest. But if there was a studio that focused solely on youngish latinas doing interracial, they would get all of my dough. KS caught my eye for a minute but they release too many scenes of been-run-through 50+ year old euro skanks. Those broads look like they were on that Saturday Night Live "Old French Whore" skit from back in the day.
Maybe the wrong topic or better in the one about Manuel Ferrera, but i's about LP. I am really pissed of and upset. The story, any weeks ago I read on the LP forum the story of Florane Russell, she was angry about what happened over 2 years concerning DAP shootings for LP. How they treated them, even to coerce her to do so etc. It was talkings nearly weeks on that board. And reading this I felt real sorry for her et cetera, trying to help her. support her. protecting her, I registered myself there and wrote al long treat. And of course I thought to get an answer from Florane herself, because she is really busy there still even right now. But nothing came, I wrote shortly ot her on twtter too. Answer in bad english: "what do you mean ?" Nothing more, no more replies. Now a few days ago I wrote the last time on LP board to her and said that I will apolgize, tried only to help her and so on. This morning a senior member on LP board answered, why I expected to get an reply of her, means who do think you are ? And Florane herself is still busy there and her claims has the sound of "let's see maybe I will really shoot for youu in the future, no DAP but it is okay". I aopogized again, but for me this girl and this site is gone, I will never ever care about a female porn performer, here are only a few exceptions see Manuel stuff, but the rest, forget it. The main reason for my "intervention" was having in my mind the sadly suicide of July Skyhigh, 2 years ago, that noone ever noticed, she ws shooting for LP too. So I am a little bit too sensitive. In the case of Florane she is Czech, maybe have a different mentality, mindset who knows, and all the stuff writing on LP, I guess it ws her husband who wrote, she is married. For me so to say regarding LP, I will only watch this as what it is porn. Personal fates and problems of an actrice are only "collateral" damage. And in th end, there is no morale, ethics or conscience in this business, it is only about money, as much as ever possible, sad.
Yes, but I read this and was deeply touched, it sounds really frightening. I wrote on LP forum to support her and help her. No reply and asking again, I got one day the answer "who are you" for getting answers or so from Florane and had apolgize me to here, and then she wrote there, all is not as serious as it seems, "only no more DAP". I thought wow you will help somebody, also cares and then, all was just "nothing". Having the same issue in another "case", brings me not really to believe what they say here or there. A strange behavior, and this brings me also thinking about LP in general, I don't know what this is LP. Their movies are hard and great, but to be honest, I only like the fact that US pornstars go to their for shooting harder stuff, that's te thrill in it.
Are you sure that these are combacks maybe it is only old shootiing stuff and they "buit" another film and selling him as "new", Covid-19, quarantine....
Oh, maybe, but I will come down and calm,I am acutally here for infos. The rest was more "accidents", to complicated for explaining on this site, I will learn......
guess when you become rich, you ignore the actual people who got you there and act as you wish to your interest,,, thats the beginning of your end eventually, i have been saying this and will say it now again: lp has changed so much, their movies used to be much better back in the day but nowadays (apart from covid19) it is just horrible! very very very bad and poor management in my opinion!
^Obviously when you acquire a large sum of money then you don't want to lose any of it and if you keep adding to that sum then it follows that you also don't want to lose any of the gains. We can argue on what constitutes too much money but it's a moot point because if the billionaires of the world are anything to go by then there is no amount that is too much.
Instead I will concentrate on how people make that money. In the case of the owners of LP. It's on the back of every porn producer who wound up having his/her content stolen and uploaded to the various tube sites LP owns. They still own some of the biggest tube sites on the net so they are still profiting from stolen content so if they are both a willing and active participant in the worst bane the porn industry has faced then why would you be surprised that they apply the same mentality to their legal business?
Where you and I may disagree is in the type of porn they produce. You and others imply that it has significantly changed in recent time but I think that or the most part it has remained the same for at least 4-5 years. There may be a lot more DAP now than 5 years ago but that's probably because that's the stuff that sold the most and as a business they decided that they should shoot more of it. The one thing that may be different now is in the variety of performers. I think that there are fewer and fewer young women willing to do a DAP early in their career and since this is what LP wants from their performers then they may be having trouble getting new models to shoot for them. It certainly would explain why they keep having to shoot the same women over and over and over for those very extreme anal penetration videos when there are still new models starting porn every week.
Very well said. Pretty much agree with you on everything.
I think what's happened with LP is quite typical of what happens to a lot of companies, institutions and even individual people, when their networth, clout, popularity and power vastly increases - they take it all for granted, lose touch with their roots, seem to forget what they had been in the beginning.. they become complacent. It happens to both companies and individual people. We've all seen it with many celebrities, who are quite the quintessential example of this.. but yeah I think this is what has happened to LP.
I very rarely use LP now, and when I do the scenes I'm watching are years old.. like 2015-2017 mainly. These scenes are all ready in my library, and so I haven't actually purchased a new scene in quite a long time. And even my most recent 'purchases' were with free tickets I left over, for some of the older scenes that were free ticket.. or just free, can't remember. I remember thinking at the time how crazy it was that the only scenes I was interested in were the older free ones, or free ticket ones.. I don't think they do that anymore, the whole free ticket thing... which I think could suggest that they're not in a great position to be doing that anymore.
I'll list the reasons I personally am not really into contemporary LP:-
- The main reason: Too much DP and DAP.. and TAP. Much like the political spectrum I believe LP has also become too extreme.. albeit in a different context. It's all too extreme "oh look how extreme we are, look at all this DAP, and EVEN TAP!!!" ..to which my reaction is "..well.. pretty much all I can see is naked dudes.. I can barely see the lass!" I'm not into DP or any of that, I tend to like traditional one guy fucking one girl in the ass, or two guys fucking two girls, three guys fucking three girls. Three fucking one, taking turns, is great. I'm very visually stimulated, I love the sight of a good reverse cowgirl, kukmal, doggy, piledriver, so DP ruins this for me.
- There are not enough US and UK girls, and when there is sometimes they're doing very soft LP.. like not the real hard, nasty LP style. Veruca James is a great example, I was excited when she was finally on LP... but the scene was pretty tame. This has happened with a few of the US girls in particular. When they first started getting US girls I was really excited about the possibility of all these US girls doing some proper hard, nasty LP style.. but not all that many did. I don't have a problem with European girls, but it's great to see girls more recognisable to my own culture, my own society, doing all the naughty tings. It's cool when they speak the language fluently and have the accent of girls you know, that's all. I hope this doesn't sound xenophobic. I love eurobabes, but I'd also like to see more of the non-eurobabes on LP is all.
- That said, I'm not particularly enthused about the girls on LP more recently, in terms of physical appearance. My main problem is that so many of them are extremely skinny.. this is a huge turnoff to me, I don't like mega skinny/boney/gangly girls, and putting some fake tits on there doesn't solve the problem. Ironically I'm not into girls with the Flower Tucci ass either, not into BBW. But just, less skinny, shapely, a lovely, natural apple booty.. y'know the kind that's not big but all of a sudden looks like a beautiful giant peach of an ass when it's in the proper position.
- Problematic filming techniques. I suppose I notice this shit more as I have worked in film, studied film production. I feel like there are too many close shots. Close shots are good but not if they're over-used. It can be pretty detrimental because I'm just thinking I want a wider shot so I can see all the stuff that the close shot stops me from seeing. I sometimes find that some decent positions are shot so close that it has a negative effect on how good it looks. The shot's too close and it would look a lot better if you just went a little wider. Sometimes the angle is bad, and so again it's just not showing what's in the front of the camera as well as it could be, or making it look as good as it could.
I've actually taken to using AEBN.net again, which until recently I hadn't used in years. The reason is because there is an abundance of older stuff on there, my coming of age porn of the noughties, and early 2010s. Seems like quite a lot of the Eurobabes back then were much better looking, there wasn't too much DP, not too much close shots. So yeah, it's gotten to the point where I'm watching the older stuff.
And, look I know my criticisms are just my opinions, my personal preferences. Some people like a load of DP, some people like extremely skinny girls, some people like a lot of close shots.. my problem really is that there's not enough variety in that way. Particularly the DP/DAP/TAP where it seems like that stuff is so prevalent on LP that there's very little that appeals to me. I just feel like it's too much the same, they're not appealing enough to other preferences.
To you and Pat362, Watching LP stuff since about 5 years I would, I like to say a few things I think about LP today. First I just learned 3 weeks ago that LP is just a kind of "umbrella" construction with any labels like GIO or IV. Different producers and directors. The IV stuff was always a little bit harder, for example a lot of piss scenes.. Now I can't see only a few changes till Corona times so far. The quality of the young girls was better, IMO generally better or more attractive looking. There are only a few girls who I really would describe as more or less pretty. Older women, I cannot see a tendency to that. But indeed in the last about 1 year it often were the same women again and again. The kick for me is also the same even or just as I am german and no US guy.
It is just to get more famous or Top performer from the US, who do there on LP more harder or extremer stuff then usually from DAP to piss scene, to name but a few. Charlotte Sartre, Syren de Mer, Dee Williams or Anna de Ville and more prominent, in the last 3,4 years shot there. So that's is the thrill. I have nothing againt the European girls, but I prefer more girls from West, South Europe then from Eastern Europe, a few exceptions. But I also don't know which way LP will go. In the moment it is still lockdown as far as I see for normal shootings again. The other issue is to see a trend that people, companies, producers but also, as I watch, a lot of perfomers, more on the OF site, to see all these fans just as ordinary customer to make money with and also to trap them on their private stuff site, for example on OF. So that is correct as far as their is good stuff actually, but It seems to me that they just try to make fast money, without a real offering, wide and rich range or variety. But that is another issue.
i am not saying anything about DAP or other related things, i am just saying that they are concentrating only on certain audience and ignore what the rest wants, or at least so i have seen. i do think they are one of the few (even during covid) that is still able to produce material which is good but when i look to at least 4-5 years back, i just do not see the same style that they used to have. just my opinion!
btw, as i said before, since they have re-released some of the scenes from dfbnetwork like klara ir dp, they should also release eva ann's ir dp scene from dfbnetwork...
Posted - May 4 2020 : 3:26PM
