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| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 |  Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 3:28AM[Link] |
| HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 5:05AM [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 5:23AM Katja Kassin you say? This missive from six years ago. BSD [Link] |
| bootymeister Senior Member Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 11:45AM Edited by - bootymeister on 6/13/2012 11:48:43 AM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 2:39PM Regardless of these "complaints" you keep going on about, the fact is that women as scrawny as Angelina Jolie and MANY others like her did NOT exist in mainstream entertainment the way they have for the last decade. Not in the 80s, not in the 90s. That's just a fact to anyone with eyes and you can't refute it. So stop with the useless irrelevant platitudes that don't address my point. (But at least you abandoned the moronic suggestion that women like Katja didn't exist in porn before the 2000s. That one was a masterpiece of stupidity.) [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 2:40PM [Link] |
| Blomkvist Deactivated User 129 Posts 12/11 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 2:57PM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 3:09PM It also doesn't take detective work to figure out that grown men with a fixation on shapeless, childlike body types have issues. Add to that the tendency of those creeps to always lie, to pretend to be fitness fanatics to justify their attraction to emaciated, malnourished women, and the bullshit becomes too much to take. I've had enough of scumbags who call any girl over 100 lbs "out of shape" while they jerk off to a chick that has the muscle tone of an eight-year-old. And that includes yourself. [Link] |
killbillvol69  All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 6:02PM There is nothing wrong with continuing your discussion, but you must do so in a civil and respectful manner. If you feel that you cannot do so, because you have simply 'had enough' or whatever else, I welcome you to post anywhere else on the internet other than here. You have been officially warned. [Link] |
| Sexy Sadie All-Star Member I came to turn on everyone 978 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 3:53AM [Link] |
| Algaliarept Senior Member 3557 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 4:34AM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 6:26AM You can tell me you don't mind the change, but you can't deny it.   [Link] |
| Blomkvist Deactivated User 129 Posts 12/11 | Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 11:40AM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 3:19PM As for Gianna, she hasn't just lost 5-10 pounds. She has easily lost 20. Second, when you're already normal and within your healthy range of body fat you're not so much getting "healthier" by losing weight as you're just trying to conform to what you think you're now supposed to look like. I know a few girls doing exactly that and every one of them looks emaciated and boyish as a result. Gianna doesn't look boyish because she was already curvy as hell, but her tits have taken a major hit. Third, I would love to see what some of these Internet Fitness Experts look like in real life! Guaranteed they don't look anywhere as fit as the girls they call overweight. But I do understand their dilemma. When you're fixated on scrawny women that fall way outside the norm, you basically have two choices: You either admit you have a fetish....or you just pretend something's wrong with the normal girls. Most of those guys go with the second option. [Link] |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 8:14PM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 1:16AM 2. If you really "can't see" the difference in those pictures, there is nothing I can do for you. [Link] |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 1:34AM In the picture she is sitting sideways, so I can't really see her face or body that well. She hardly looks anorexic or unhealthy though from what little I can see. [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 1:58AM Here's another pic from the same scene. Anyone who thinks the girl doesn't look worse after the weight loss probably also thinks a car looks better after it's been keyed and its windows been broken!  [Link] |
| bootymeister Senior Member Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 6:10PM Moreover, Katja has other beautiful feautures which would have been too unique for support by the porn industry. Katja would have had two strikes against her for big success. Though white, she does not have the all american facial look and she is not thin. I cite diversity in all aspects fo appearance in today's porn. You are blinded by weight issues. Edited by - bootymeister on 6/15/2012 9:01:01 PM [Link] |
| bootymeister Senior Member Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 6:36PM Ever here of Calista Flockhart? Of course not, you only like to here yourself talk stupid crap. There was public uproar about her weight. From wikipedia: Ally McBeal In 1997 Flockhart was requested to audition for the starring role in David E. Kelley's Fox television series, Ally McBeal. ... She earned a Golden Globe Award for the role in 1998. ... many have commented that Flockhart had become dangerously thin, particularly when the actress made red carpet appearances in clothing that revealed a somewhat emaciated physique. ... she admitted that she had a problem at the time, and was "exercising too much" and "eating too little". The point is under weight is nothing new, in porn or pop culture. For a good while now, it has never been easier to avoid it. Plenty of other choices to make, choose some and shut up. In fact, some of the alternative choices represent a lower caliber. Good luck with your weight concerns, Pornication. Edited by - bootymeister on 6/15/2012 8:59:39 PM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 5:10PM Second, how on earth couldn't she have had a shot at a career in America when Tanya Foxx, Brandy Alexander and Kristy Lynn (just to name a few) before her had great careers with that exact body type? Do you enjoy not making sense? Kristy Lynn's entire career was based on her outsized ass. She had a pretty face and was a good performer but was practically flat-chested. Her ass made her the biggest name in the industry in the early 90s. The Buttman series devoted to curvy women were already legendary and easily one of the most recognizable titles in all porn for over a decade before the likes of Katja Kassin came along. Your point is moot. As usual. Edited by - pornication on 6/16/2012 5:14:32 PM [Link] |
| more_cowbell Member 162 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 5:28PM I used to think fat girls were kind of nasty until I saw some BBW models and porn stars and realized they can be extremely hot. I kept think to myself is where have these hot big girls been hiding??? The answer is Hollywood and the fashion industry doesn't use the best looking fat girls. They use the worst looking fat girls to further the "only skinny is beautiful" stereotype. Imagine if Hollywood and the fashion industry only used fat (fat by Hollywood's standards) woman who looked like Sierra Skye, Siri, and Selena Castro and then on the rare occasions they featured a skinny girl they looked like ugly crackheads. Every man would be chasing BBW instead of obsessing over skeletal females. Edited by - more_cowbell on 6/16/2012 5:30:20 PM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 5:29PM And your reference to Calista actually supports my point! In the late '90s she caused an uproar for looking unhealthy and emaciated -- despite having the same exact body that 9 out of 10 women do in entertainment now. That by itself shows how much the culture has grown used to skeletal body types. Women with Calista's anorexic figure used to be so rare they created controversy, now they're the standard in all entertainment and anyone thicker is actually called fat! This is a perfect illustration of the fucked up change in culture, and that is the point I'm making which keeps going over your head. [Link] |
| THICK_LOVA54 Senior Member Wielding a sword without fear of it is to be unworthy of the blade. 1441 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 6:22PM [Link] |
| Blomkvist Deactivated User 129 Posts 12/11 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 7:38PM [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 7:39PM Calista in the '90s: [mod edit: no pics of celebs since ADT recently got sued for having pics of celebs] The photos YOU uploaded of Rachel Roxx and Gianna (so you can't accuse me of cherry-picking, like you did last time):
And these body-type pictures look the same to you do they...? Actually THE SAME...?! Like, 9 out of 10(!!!) women now ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE Calista Flockhart did in the 1990s... The same as in those pictures...?! Right...? Is that correct...? Is that what you're HONESTLY TELLING US WITH A STRAIGHT FACE...?!! Fucksake.
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| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 8:44PM While she looks frightening in every pic other than the first where she's just frail instead of scary, that first one is exactly what most women in entertainment look like today: [mod edit: no pics of celebs since ADT recently got sued for having pics of celebs]
The problem is you like the way Rachel and Gianna look after the unnecessary weight loss, but you also know you can't claim that directly without looking silly. I'll just repeat what I said before: Anyone who thinks those girls actually look better or healthier in the After pics need to get their eyes checked. When you compare the before and after photos it's actually depressing. Rachel's face seems to have aged 10 years.
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| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 8:57PM Oh and don't forget the hot sexy legs. Not only are they much shapelier than Calista's, they are exactly the type one would normally see on a healthy adult woman. Nothing emaciated or childlike about them at all. Nothing that looks creepily similar to that of a kid between 8-12 years old. No siree!  Edited by - pornication on 6/16/2012 9:02:01 PM[Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 9:18PM That's a BMI of 16.1. Healthy is considered 18.5-24.9. That girl would need to gain 15 lbs to be at the very bottom of the healthy range. And her fake boobs probably take up a couple pounds right there, so realistically she probably needs to put on 20-25 lbs to sit comfortably in the lower part of the healthy range. [edit: oh but I don't know what he's talking about kids for. I don't think she looks like a kid, she just looks like a woman who is unhealthily skinny] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/16/2012 9:19:14 PM [Link] |
| siripornstar Member 199 Posts 6/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 12:39AM We all know what BMI is, right? I am 5'9" and weigh close to 160 pounds. My tits weigh 8lbs each. My weight fluctuations over the years have never affected my tits, so I would consider them dead weight for the purpose of this calculation. So I'm essentially 144lbs, with a BMI of21.3, which is smack in the middle of the normal weight range. If I am right in the middle of normal weight and being labeled as fat or BBW, I would say that's quite inaccurate. I have only shot for mainstream companies. I have not shot for anything that is billed as or was intended to be marketed as BBW content, including my work for New Sensations Big Girls Are Sexy DVD. I must disagree with the title, since it was actually meant to communicate "big" girls as in tall, curvy chicks, not fat or BBW chicks. I would love it if my fans and the industry and anybody who enjoys my performances could just stop with the BBW and "fat" labeling. I am a normal, healthy girl. I work out 4 days per week and I eat healthier than most of the tiny, skinny girls in porn who I have met. I wear a size 10, which is smaller than the average American woman's size 12-14. Most importantly, I want to be a successful mainstream porn actress. I am already well on my way to achieving that, but the more I am labeled by good-natured fans as a BBW, the less work I will get. I appreciate that men who are attracted to BBWs and fat girls are sometimes attracted to my body type as well, but I believe that's got more to do with the fact that I look like a real, healthy person. Everyone loves complaining about the lack of "real women" in mainstream porn, but what you're not seeing is that consumers have all of the control over what girls become in demand and successful. It all depends on what you buy. And how many mainstream porn consumers are NOT buying the Big Girls Are Sexy DVD simply because it has the word "BIG" in the title? Remember, I am 5’9” and weigh only 160 pounds. That’s not fat by ANYone’s standards. To those who in this thread and elsewhere on the forum have mentioned me in a BBW context: When you go and use this forum to call me that, guess what? That tells the producers and directors who read AdultDVDTalk that Siri isn’t mainstream. That you consider her fat/BBW, which to them equals less dollars. This is a business. A business that now succeeds by very thin margins, as you all have correctly pointed out, due to all of the free/tube sites. Therefore, they will go with someone else. You'll limit me and my career opportunities by mis-categorizing me. Your criteria are inaccurate and your basis for the categorization is erroneous. I am glad you like seeing me perform, and if you see more flesh on me than the average common-denominator girl, and that’s a good thing, then why take that away from me by labeling me as anything other than normal?? If she’s anorexic looking, why does that make me fat in your eyes? It’s skewed, gentlemen, and there’s no other way for you to characterize your commentary. I want to work; you want to see me performing sexually for you. The audience is king here, so use discretion in your judgments. I am in all ways just a normal curvy girl doing porn and your opinions keep me working. Use the language wisely and choose your words carefully; you might just ruin it for yourself, for me, and for other girls in porn with REAL body types like mine. [Link] |
| more_cowbell Member 162 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 1:29AM I had no idea that you were struggling for mainstream acceptance. The idea that any porn director or producer would reject you for any movie boggles the mind to insanity. Trust me, I'll never limit you to the BBW category again. I do see a perfect niche for you. The BIG NATURAL BREAST genre. I don't know if the genre is done enough to keep you busy in the dvd retail business but there has to be plenty of big natural breast websites who would love to feature you. Another great aspect to this genre is these fans are far less likely to consider you "out of shape" than the mainstream consumers who have been brain washed to expect all women to be skin and bones. Not to keep pushing interracial and anal on you but those genres seem like more accepting of different body types. 90% of the guys who loves interracial, anal, or big natural breast ain't gonna kick your sexy-ass out of bed for eating crackers. So yeah, between doing dvds and website scenes that specialize in big natural breast, anal or interracial you'll should be a very, very busy women. I can't even imagine you needing the mainstream while you're dominating (yes you will dominate)those three genres. Just my humble opinion. Always a pleasure chatting with you. Edited by - more_cowbell on 6/17/2012 1:30:09 AM Edited by - more_cowbell on 6/17/2012 1:32:50 AM [Link] |
| more_cowbell Member 162 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 1:52AM You should talk with Katja Kassin. She also post at ADT. Both of you are super-intelligent European sex-godesses. Plus she's done interracial anal a few times before, so she knows things about it career wise. Hope she doesn't discourage you, then I just shot myself in the nuts. lol. Best of luck and Happy Birthday wishes! Edit - I stare at your GIFs compulsively now, FYI. Edited by - more_cowbell on 6/17/2012 1:58:39 AM Edited by - more_cowbell on 6/17/2012 3:02:02 AM [Link] |
| Viggen Member 275 Posts 12/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 6:02AM Siri would be great alongside the likes of Michelle Monaghan, Joanna Bliss, Jasmine Black etc etc. Busty ladies with curves and as far as I can tell, not one of these women get categorized as "large" or "bbw" and they certainly have massive fan bases and are equally popular in solo stills photography modelling as they are in hardcore g/g or b/g scenes.  [Link] |
| David Cop-a-feel Deactivated User Trust me, honey, it gets better 323 Posts 10/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 7:11AM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 10:24AM [Link] |
| Dispo Deactivated User 299 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 10:49AM When I was reading this post, I was blown away when I realized who wrote it. Also, Pornication is delusional and paranoid that there is a pedophile under every rock, simply because not everyone likes chubby women. He also has a hard time understanding the difference between naturally thin, attractive young girls and women, and anorexia and/or women with a drug problem. There's a difference, and only complete idiots don't know the difference between the two. And again, you're not a pedophile if you find naturally thin, pretty teen girls to be attractive. Only a total moron would think this. Also, what about Traci Lords? She was quite the teen, and she also had quite the figure. She was more "buxom" than some women in their 20's these days. And considering that Traci Lords was one of the biggest pornstars of the 80's, I guess there's a LOT of pedophiles out there. Pedophiles that apparently like girls that look like grown women with huge tits, of course. You know, big tits and a furry bush. Textbook pedophilia of course. Edited by - dispo on 6/17/2012 10:57:51 AM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 10:57AM [Link] |
| Dispo Deactivated User 299 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 10:59AM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 11:13AM Edited by - pornication on 6/17/2012 11:15:37 AM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 12:24PM Why do you insist on drawing parallels between guys who have a fetish for women who are unhealthily skinny, and pedophiles? These are two completely different things. Both bad, I'll give you that, but completely different. Also, his point bringing up Traci Lords was that if these people actually had a thing for girls who are underage, as you suggest, they would be far more into Traci (who had a full figure) than they would be into the skinny girls being discussed, as she was in fact underage. But I'm sure if you showed the people you're arguing with a picture of Traci in her performing days, they'd say that she's too fat and that they like these other skinny girls (who are of legal age) far more. Thus, making them interested in a girl's size, and not her age. Thus, disproving your theory that because a man likes a woman who is skinny, he therefore likes children. You are having enough trouble in your arguments here that it doesn't seem constructive to equate things that are not the same. [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 1:12PM Definition of PEDOPHILIA : sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object From TheFreeDictionary.com: ped·o·phil·i·a (pd-fl-, pd-) n. The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children. pedo·phili·ac (-k) adj. & n. From dictionary.reference.com: pe·do·phile /ˈpidəˌfaɪl/ Show Spelled[pee-duh-fahyl] Show IPA noun Psychiatry . an adult who is sexually attracted to young children. From MedicineNet.com: Definition of Pedophilia Pedophilia: Adult sexual fondness for and activity with children. Pedophilia is a form of paraphilia (deviant sexual behavior). If acted out, pedophilia is legally defined as sexual child abuse. Pedophilia includes fondling a child's genitals, intercourse, incest, rape, sodomy, exhibitionism, and commercial exploitation of children through prostitution or the production of pornographic materials. Pedophiles who have sexually abused children require intense psychological and pharmacological therapy prior to release into the community because of the high rate of repeat offenders. Treatment is rarely effective because the disorder is not yet well understood. The incidence of pedophilia has been markedly underestimated. It is essential that pedophilia be reported so that appropriate steps can be taken to protect the children involved and all other children. The whole Wikipedia article... --- There... a sexual interest in CHILDREN. Nowhere is any statement saying or alluding to: "liking thin people". By that way of thinking, nobody regardless of age would never have sex with a thin person for fear of being referred to as a pedophile. Also, have you actually seen how many chubby/fat kids there are nowadays?! Ever hear of the term "puppy fat"? Not all children are thin (far from it), so it stands to reason that liking chubby people is reminiscent of liking kids with puppy fat. RIDICULOUS. Being attracted to kids is exactly that: KIDS. Very specifically, as in underage. Now, can that train of thought, please just fuck off from this thread, because even the mention of it here is way beyond fucking retarded. Edited by - Dubious_Leftovers on 6/17/2012 1:29:20 PM [Link] |
| Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 1:15PM But the hottest girls in porn are american brunettes with huge tattoos, fake tits and obvious love for rough sex. Most of them could be thinner but hey we're talking america with it's totally warped relation too food. [Link] |
| bootymeister Senior Member Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 1:41PM You are hung up on weight for whatever personal problem you have. But almost all of the women in the Buttman's flick were physcially fit. How many other porn series feature bigger women in the 80s or 90s? Almost all of the women in the "big white asses" thread are over weight, some are obese. Most of the women in that tread who are actually porn stars, until recently, would have had no place in porn in the 80s or 90s. The have been hundreds, if not thousands, of big butt flicks in recent years. So many, that some complain. Prior to recent years, porn had never been this diverse and accepting of thick, overweight and clinically obese women into mainstream porn. Love handles like Flower Tucci in the 80s and 90s? Really? Folds of flab like Kelly Devine in the 80s or 90s? Any names? Of course not. Also, do not bother trying to research finding just one or two names because I can keep on naming overweight, prominent, porn stars from the 2000s. Pornication, you argument against the acceptance of heavier talent in today's porn is an irrational concern over a weight issue. Edited by - bootymeister on 6/17/2012 2:00:01 PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 2:33PM [Link] |
| Niteflyte777 Member 36 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 3:03PM [Link] |
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| Blomkvist Deactivated User 129 Posts 12/11 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 3:26PM Does this work for you? [mod edit: image removed. OK now you're just trying to provoke. Don't do that. See the ADT forum etiquette.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/17/2012 3:34:29 PM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 6:30PM In my experience these guys always give themselves away one way or another. They may not be into 8-year-olds per se, but most of them clearly wish the age of consent was a few years younger and it's not hard at all to read between the lines. I’ve found when they describe a “fat” woman what they’re really describing is one who just doesn’t look underage, and what they call “fit” is basically a girl who looks underdeveloped. If there was no law against it, a lot of these guys would only date girls in middle school or maybe 9th grade. And I know guys with this fetish who have more or less admitted as much. [Link] |
| Blomkvist Deactivated User 129 Posts 12/11 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 6:39PM [Link] |
| Pornication Member 130 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 6:49PM First of all, just off the top of my head, women like Trinity Loren, Keisha (in the 80s), Tracey Adams (mid 80s onward) and Kim Chambers in the 90s all had similar bodies to Flower and Kelly. Tanya Foxx would also fit the bill. All of these women had major following. But more importantly, once you start using those retarded terms like "love handles" and "folds of flab" to describe curvy women you give yourself away. Then again you already did that when you kept posting pictures of waifs in a BIG Butt thread like the brain surgeon you are.:) [Link] |
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As unthinkable as it may have been at the time, Calista's figure in that first pic has become the standard body type for women in entertainment. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just denying what's in plain sight. And Gianna and Rachel Roxx look very similar to that in the pics I posted. The only difference in case of Gianna is her naturally huge tits.