I'm getting sick of this shit.
'Splain to me why we need another thread saying exactly the same things you say in every other "IR" thread?
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| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 |  Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 3:44PMI'm getting sick of this shit! I keep hearing and reading that (some) white female porn stars say it will hurt my career if I fuck a black man in a adult film. Let's put this shit to rest and prove it for once and for all that it doesn't hurt your career. There's lots of big name porn white female porn stars who've done interracial. Sash Grey, Jenna Haze, Bobbi Star, Lexi Belle and many others. Heck, Sash Grey starred in a movie. That should answer your question, should I do interracial. Well, it's a no brainer, it won't hurt your career. Take some notes, white girls in the adult industry who are dodgers!!!! If you don't believe me, go to xrentdvd.com and other rental dvd websites and look up the catergories of some of the popular white females in the business that's do done interracial. I also think, white porn stars who are hesitant to do so, need to do their homework and stop listening to their racists agents, directors, producers and some racists fans. Note: For those who complain that their tired of these interracial threads about race. Need to get over it, because, the last time I check we live in Amerikkka, where racism exist. And don't tell me that racism is over just because we elected a Black President. Oh, another thing let's start giving credit to some who have done interracial, praise them for it, big time. I hope this will finally put it to rest for saying something that stupid. [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 3:53PM I'm getting sick of this shit. 'Splain to me why we need another thread saying exactly the same things you say in every other "IR" thread? [Link] |
| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 4:22PM [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 4:36PM Sure, Jenna Haze (for example) is "big time", "top seller", "superstar", or whatever accolades you wanna give her. But if there are some racist knuckleheads out there who refuse to buy her DVDs, then, strictly speaking, one could argue that her "career" has been hurt, because those are lost sales. I guess it's all in how you choose to measure it. And what about all the lesser-known girls who frequently appear in the Evasive Angles type of IR flicks, but never make it to the top bigtime superstar level of porn fame? Does their early IR work affect how high their star can rise? The answer is unknowable. I'm just sayin it's not so obvious or 'no brainer' or stupid as you make it out to be, if you take some time to think it through. [Link] |
| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 4:40PM Edited by - Chi - Bear 85 on 9/29/2009 4:41:48 PM [Link] |
| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 4:46PM [Link] |
| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 4:53PM [Link] |
| Slaughtersun Deactivated User 825 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 4:58PM [o\|]
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| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 5:03PM Edited by - Chi - Bear 85 on 9/29/2009 5:03:51 PM [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 5:10PM That's because what this really boils down to is who has influence over a performer's view of the porn business. You can yell all you want, but you're just some anonymous guy on the internet who has an obvious bias. Why should they listen to you? Like it or not, your influence is zero, and multiplying zero by any number still gets you zero. [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 6:26PM [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 8:50PM Because I'm a moderator.If I "don't like it" (and it crosses the line), I'll just delete it  [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 8:53PM [Link] |
| poloprinz Member We didn't bring a compass 'cause we ain't got nowhere to go 173 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 9:48PM [Link] |
| lack100 Deactivated User 139 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 10:42PM i really dont know because i see so many angry white guys who get mad and send hate mail to girls for doing IR scenes. Yesterday, i was reading a couple of guys who said since jenna haze started doing i.r. they hate her and are no longer a fan. I've heard countless stories of girls getting hate mail from white guys. I do think it hurts a little but not big enough to do real damage to your career. Unless these chicks think they can become the next jenna jameson..it really doesnt hurt. [Link] |
| torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 10:57PM The thing that hurt Jenna Haze's career isn't fucking black dudes but when she went veggie and quit fucking guys all together. Praise Allah that was a short lived fad. And I'm gonna retire from porn forever if she ever gets boltons [Link] |
| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 1:11AM [Link] |
| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 1:51AM You, on the other hand, are apparently more concerned with what you do not have (the white girls that don't) rather than what you do have (the white girls that do). [Link] |
| pito05 Member BROOKLYN nyc 508 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 8:54AM i certianly agree its foolish to turn down a scene based on the race of the partner, since after all a black man's $$ is as green as anyone elses. its the same with the girls who wont do anal. ok, well then there are still plenty who do and i'll just watch them if i want to see an anal scene. [Link] |
| tritone Deactivated User 1009 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 11:08AM [Link] |
| MissJennaHaze Member 401 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 12:18PM [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 12:19PM And, that would cover a lot of us. I don't especially seek out IR (except for the "other IR" BF/WM), but I like good scenes with quality Black studs (e.g. Lex, Mandingo) doing girls I find attractive, as well as any other racial combo. In fact, I'll actually pick-up scenes with guys like Lex and Mandingo, fucking the girls I like, the same way I'd look for Peter North scenes over the years. FYI, there are scenes with girls I like that I avoid, because I don't like the male talent involved -- and this includes studs of all races, more often White as a matter-of-fact. From a White guy's perspective -- mine -- I just don't see what the problem is? We've got the whole IR genre -- which is huge! -- of Black males fucking White females, yet all these guys want to do is complain about individual performers who don't (or haven't yet) done IR scenes, hurl accusations as to "why" and call the girls racists. One thing people often lose sight of is that, many "barriers" in porn exist for a reason. They are artificial devices being used to promote sales -- USUALLY TO HYPE AND PROLONG FEMALE PERFORMER'S CAREERS. First boy/girl, first anal, first multi-partner, going girl/girl only, back doing guys, first swallow, new look, new hair-color, new AKA, boob-job, first retirement, first cumback, first anal-creampie, now a MILF, first IR and on-and-on. It's the cycle of life -- survival -- for most women in the porn industry. There is so much porn out there. Find the stuff you like already, and try to enjoy yourselves! [Link] |
| just_me Member 133 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 1:19PM "She must fuck a black guy" is also a racist statement in of itself  The way to "finally put it to rest" is to stop "discussing" it, stop making lists of girls you don't personally approve of. You say we're in "Amerikkka", which again is a rasist statement, I say we live in America where we are tolerant of others, and not force our beliefs onto them, so long as they don't force their beliefs onto me nor harm me in any way. A girl who doesn't fuck a black guy on camera is not hurting anyone, is not hurting race relations in the least. You are. [Link] |
| NerdGod Member Using a 2 inch cock like it was 12 480 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 1:21PM [Link] |
| just_me Member 133 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 1:43PM then stop making threads about it and just be content in believing she is only hurting herself. I don't know, maybe if interracial flicks didn't have such obnoxious titles as "Oh My God! A white girl is fucking a BLACK COCK!!!" then the girl is immediately added to dozens of lists all across the internet of "girls who do IR"... [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 2:20PM Click to expand   [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 3:43PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 3:49PM That way it won't be entirely the lady's decision to let the black guy take her ass. Because her white 'husband' will arrange the whole thing and persuade her to let the black guy join them for the threesome and for the DP ride. And having viewers see the apparent friendship between the white and the black guy would perhaps help to change some potentially racist attitudes among some porn fans. The scene doesn't have to be 100% interracial. It can be 50% interracial by having one white guy and one black guy ride the white lady together. And that kind of thing might be more acceptable for ladies who fear about their career. Edited by - Dan on 9/30/2009 3:50:10 PM [Link] |
| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 5:23PM From a White guy's perspective There is no problem. It is always the victims problem. I'd have to agree starting this thread was unnecessary. Edited by - ntfighter on 9/30/2009 5:25:46 PM [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 6:00PM Try responding to the point."I'd have to agree," we're all victims of the IR trolls [Link] |
| pokerman Member J lo booty 404 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 6:18PM Not taking a shot at the people that feel passionate about this subject by the way. This will scare all the pornstars away on to other forums if nearly every thread is about trying to get pornstars to do IR. The should do what ever they want even if I don't get why they don't do IR. Blame the agents not the pornstars. [Link] |
| BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 6:32PM This forum's official moderators are killbillvol69 and HeyNow. They are the ones who will decide when and if to lock threads in this forum. Unless we run into etiquette issues, they're pretty tolerant. [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 7:58PM Some girls do, and some girls don't, some girls will and some girls won't. enjoy those that do, but don't pressure those that don't. edited to attribute quote Edited by - BigBobxxx on 9/30/2009 8:21:30 PM [Link] |
| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 9:23PM White guys do not see a problem because it isn't a problem for them. [Link] |
| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 9:48PM [Link] |
| ninja12 Member 37 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 10:13PM [Link] |
| MrMarcus Member Walk down and fuck them all. 181 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 12:02AM [Link] |
| bluv18 Deactivated User 1148 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:17AM Check This out guys. I gotta say I am proud of this woman. [Link] |
| Royal Tee Member 665 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:24AM That being said, I always found it funny that when a girl doesn't do IR, people are quick to defend her action or tell us to ignore it. Which is fine. But when the same type of threads pop up about a starlet doing anal. The threads have a much different tone. Not nearly as much of "it's her decision" replies. [Link] |
| Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:27AM *****The Dr. of Nasty***** [Link] |
| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:32AM Someone out there need to do there research on this asshole that tweeted her and exposed him for what he is. A straght out bigot! [Link] |
| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:35AM You guys all know I mainly do interracial porn. Mostly by preference, but also because I have a big booty and that doesn't always fit into Wicked and Vivid's recipe for success. So anyhoo, I'm just minding my own business on Twitter the other day when I get a tweet from a white male performer named Marcus London..... @ValerieLuxe to much black cock won't get you anywhere be careful who you slag off stormy daniels the topself I should know1:31 AM Sep 27th from Echofon Now, apparently this unknown performer sent me this tweet because he thought I had said something disrespectful to a top starlett named Stormy Daniels. I explained to him that there were people impersonating me on Twitter and creating fake pages to start drama with other women in the industry. So he said "Sorry if you didn't say anything". My whole career, I have been told by agents, producers, directors, and porn company owners to not do interracial because it will cut my career in porn short. I've never really understood the hype since all my relationships in my personal life are interracial. I thought this was a great market for me because I have a big booty and a STRONG appreciation for black men. Apparently, the industry looks at it differently and this was made all to clear to me when Marcus London sent me this ignorant tweet. This sparked a huge Twitter debate......the white performers vs the black performers. I was caught in the middle (as I usually am on Twitter..lol). Here is a little history on me....I was raised in the country around ALL white people...I don't think I even saw a black person until I was 15 or 16. When I was 18 I met a girl who only dated black men...she always tried to coax me over, but I wasn't interested. Also, when I turned 18, I suddenly got a big bubble butt...outta nowhere..I was always just stick thin with no curves. I didn't pay any attention to it until black men started paying attention to me...I felt like I belonged..LOL. So, 2 years later we are 20 yrs old and she meets a VERY FAMOUS NBA player...they start hooking up and I go to his house with her for tag along purposes. Finally, on a drunken night, I slept with one of the dudes friends and I have never gone back. From that point on, every man I hang out with is black and 2 of my VERY BEST girlfriends are black. Because of this, I have seen what other races have to experience in day to day life. I have been in restaurants with boyfriends and been stared at the whole time. I have been judged and discriminated against because I only go to "black" clubs....but, that is only 1% of what they experience because at the end of the day, I am still a white woman. So, back to the other day....the statement Marcus made was racist and there is no going around it. He basically said if you ride black dick, your career will be over. When asked about it by many stars, his only defense was that he was not racist, only realistic. His wife even messaged me trying to defend his ass saying that "He is british and he just doesn't give a shit". Wow, what an amazing man to be married to that doesn't care about the human race. Now, lemme just inform you, his wife is a pornstar who does interracial scenes, but as he put it "Only with classy men and companies"...LMFAO. I have filmed with Shane Diesel for New Sensations and squirted all over his face.....is that "classy"? I have filmed with Mr. Marcus for multiple companies...he has nutted on my face, rubbed it in, and left me with bruises...is that "classy". That shows this mans ignorance....those are 2 of THE TOP and HIGHEST PAID black male performers and the scenes were not classy. TAKING A NUT ON YOUR FACE FOR THE WORLD TO SEE IS NEVER CLASSY......we are pornstars....we do disgusting, freaky things because that is what society wants to see! We are not in the business of filming a classy movie. FUCK OUTTA HERE!! Lemme just say this to Mr. Marcus London and all your "fans". You are a sick excuse for a human being!!! You are the typical porn husband using your wife and pimping her out on the side. You are probably so pissed about interracial performers because your wife prefers taking a black cock on camera more than your cock in the bedroom. People like you are the reason this world will never overcome racism. I don't hate you...I just feel very sorry for you. I am sorry that porn defines who you are as a person. I am sorry that you can't see past someones skin color. I'm sorry that you have no respect for women that do interracial scenes or for black women that are taking over the industry. I am going to stand by my decision. I will continue to do interracial porn. If a white company doesn't want to shoot me because of that, so be it. I'm not going to comform and compromise my integrity just to be in a lame ass movie and make $1000...not worth it for me. I am going to show this world that a WHITE woman can make a name for herself by fucking BLACK men....that will be my revenge on this racist fuck!! By the way, check the stats Marcus, you have about 900 followers on Twitter...I have almost 6000. Apparently I'm doing something right...... [Link] |
| supa_dupa09 Deactivated User 118 Posts 6/09 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:51AM Because like someone on here said before, Racist in porn is feeding off fans complaining about it and obviously gettin off on that, because it is porn, LOL. Its like I feel black porn is not freaky enough anymore, so I decided to spend my money on amatuer black websites that get down like that, Just got a couple of these susan reno DVDs where she has black girls get down with the brothas real freaky. Only time I watch pro black porn is for the big booties mostly and thats it. [Link] |
| Nimrod Member 624 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 9:35AM Edited by - Nimrod on 10/1/2009 9:43:25 AM [Link] |
| the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 9:52AM [Link] |
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| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:24PM You say the industry is validating and funding. Funding? Meaning the industry is paying people to not use African Americans? Paying who? Vivid has also done a series called Blackmaled. We have shot IR for a longtime. You shout discrimination, yet I don't see it. There is a ton of IR stuff being shot and that's been produced. Are you suggesting that every movie should have an IR scene in it? That is crazy. Janines Been Blackmaled, Monique Been Blackmaled and Savannas Been Blackmaled, three of our biggest stars have all done IR, we still shoot IR. We employed Mr. Marcus for his own series. What companies are discriminating? Name Names. I don't blame economics at all, our IR stuff sells really well. [Link] |
| CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 3:08PM [/quote] But it is the performer. Each contract girl has a list of guys she wants to work with. A lot of Vivid girls love Mr. Marcus, they work with him. You say the industry is validating and funding. Funding? Meaning the industry is paying people to not use African Americans? Paying who? Vivid has also done a series called Blackmaled. We have shot IR for a longtime. You shout discrimination, yet I don't see it. There is a ton of IR stuff being shot and that's been produced. Are you suggesting that every movie should have an IR scene in it? That is crazy. Janines Been Blackmaled, Monique Been Blackmaled and Savannas Been Blackmaled, three of our biggest stars have all done IR, we still shoot IR. We employed Mr. Marcus for his own series. What companies are discriminating? Name Names. I don't blame economics at all, our IR stuff sells really well. [/quote] Well my friend there was a time when Vivid didn't do it and people were questioning discrimination of what Vivid didn't do for the Interracial fans. Hell, you had contract girl Jenna Jameson and she didn't take one black dick while she worked for your company not even Marcus. But, you guys have change in the past three or five years so that's a start. I give you credit for that. [Link] |
| NerdGod Member Using a 2 inch cock like it was 12 480 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 3:17PM  Edited by - nerdgod on 10/1/2009 3:23:54 PM [Link] |
| Nimrod Member 624 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 3:33PM Edited by - Nimrod on 10/1/2009 3:38:46 PM [Link] |
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