Whoa the tone of this conversation sure changed since the last time I posted! lol Interracial seems to be a very hot and debated topic at the moment. I think perhaps it brings out a lot of feelings, it is a very volatile topic. Bottom line for me is, it is their choice. They can't be forced to have sex with someone they don't want to have sex with. I was just thinking that if I was a male pornstar (who is mixed race btw) I'd probably not be willing to have sex with asian girls as often as I would others, I'm not saying I wouldn't at all but I only really rate a few as gorgeously attractive. I have loads of asian friends male/female but it's just an attraction thing. You could make this argument into anything, like why don't many pornstars do guys with blonde hair or I don't know. You can't really legislate preference or choice because it's personal. And I think this thread may just become a way of personally attacking a lot of pornstars who don't do interracial. I think the title of this thread just needs a simple reply: So what? Are you going to force her to? Hope this post falls in line with the rules.
Here we go. Lets make a new porno law..every white chick should have to have sex with a black guy, (one that looks black too....not them light skinned ones) so you guys can jack off to it and the guys penis will be the same color as yours and you can walk the streets knowing that every white girls has felt the power. LOL
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MrLongStiff Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 27 2009 : 7:40AM
I think this is a good thread. The mod is right that there should be no flame throwing or ganging up on people. I try to be respectful as possible. Edited by - mrlongstiff on 10/1/2009 12:23:14 PM
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MrLongStiff Deactivated User
87 Posts 7/09
Posted - Sep 27 2009 : 8:06AM
I think you've completely misinterpreted the point. The premise of this thread is not what you've estimated. The real issue is that female Porn stars who are known for outrageous and extreme behaviors on and off camera but frequently done when the cameras are not rolling ONLY develop what passes as a CODE OF STANDARDS when dealing with Black men. There is hardly anything a person can't convince these women to do if he throws a few more dollars at them BUT if it's to perform with a Blackman, the usual excuse is, "OH NO!! I have to protect my values and dignity", yeah right. BULLSHIT hypocrisy right there.
While not technially the same, "ulterior motive" and "conspiracy" sound identical when Mr. LongStiff assumes his over-the-top tone. I took no 'tangent' - I responded spot on to his characterization of Hush Hush, and he finally did come up with some purported facts to back up one of his points. Before the existence of Hush Hush, some IR dodgers would say that they had bad experience with black performers, saying stuff along the lines of "they're not classy", etc, presumably because of the dreadlock hairstyles or tattoos. Such people will always come up with that kind of escuse - they don't need Hush Hush for that. More importantly, there is lots of porn that depicts men in general in unflattering ways (Khan Tusion, Max Hardcore, 65-man gangbangs), yet IR dodgers don't cite that as a reason to avoid white men on camera. So, it's extrremely difficult to see how those masterminds at Hush Hush could determine how they could make IR sex uniquely unappealing to the white starlets who would otherwise be willing to give it a shot. The viewpoint of Hush Hush is one that is a cheerleader for black men who exploit white women. Historically, anti-black stereotypes served the opposite purpose - keep the oppression going because 'they' violated 'our' women. On the one hand, Hush Hush reminds me of porn in the spirit of, IIRC, Eldridge Cleaver of the Black Panthers, who referred to such violations as a revolutionary act. On the other hand, the tone of the content is too light-hearted to be that serious - too much laughing, joking and self-conscious high-fiving by all the parties involved, with the off-screen director trying out some lame stand-up comedy bits with the on screen performers. More like the Wayans Brothers' "In Living Color" than "Birth of a Nation". As for the titles and advertising, it sounds like rap music fans rebelling against the taboo on the "N word". It's not something I would do, but I get where they are coming from.
KillBill... I've changed my mind. This thread is beyond redemption. Go ahead and lock it (if you're so inclined). We'll deal with the next IR thread when it happens
^ Bob I agree this thread continues to be ridiculous. I feel like living on the edge though, so I'll let it sit. The worst offenders know they are the worst offenders. I'd rather leave them here than in the next IR thread, which is likely to take the same tone anyway. Smarten up kids. & keep the personal insults out of it. *********** @MrLongStiff: sorry I guess you didn't use the word 'conspiracy'. My bad.
Ava, I have to disagree on your #1 reason as well. Maybe that was the way of old but I think you should take another look at some of the newer IR thats out now. Your right, there are companies who center their production in the manner you are speaking of but, thats mainly because believe it or not there is a market for that but theres a gang of directors / companies that do not. I, for one has personally tried to center my production in a total different direction than what you say you have experienced. Take a look for yourself . Josh Stone Edited by - josh stone on 9/27/2009 3:21:53 PM
Ok, here we go again...this thread has been read 30,415 times, and that's pretty impressive, considering that they're a lot of people who complain about it, but they somehow cannot stay away from it!. I'm going to close out with some things, and some women that could possibly lead to a new thread being titled ''she will do black guys'', or ''she'll do all guys''.....I'm definitely feeling Avy Scott right now, I must say that I've been sleeping on her, she's sexy, and ''she does black guys''..also, has anyone else noticed how Lisa Ann is all over the IR scene?..I'm loving it!...Maybe I'll be the one who starts it!
One thing is for sure, there is no racism or hate in this thread. I understand why there will be complaints about insults but the people doing it should be banned on an individual basis.
Is it only this subject that brings out the cynics and those demanding that threads be killed. I, and apparently others think it's a stimulating particularly adult discussion. Industry people have visited and joined in, more than have posted in most threads. For the most part the discussion has remained civil, unless one feels that disagreements are personal attacks. Killbill did the right thing by allowing it to continue. As far as the decision not to work with African Americans. I sometimes think it's just another psychological technique to control the young wide-eyed girls fresh of the bus. Recruiting one of these girls is analogous to pimps turning a prospective hooker out to the track. The agents and studio's behaving as the pimps first gains the girls trust and lead her to believe that they will protect her from all the bad things. They allow the girl a semblance of control, ex: you won't have to fuck black people. It makes it easier to get her to do other more profitable things she might object to. ex: fill in the blank, etc. Current economics seem to be causing a few crack in the adult movie facade. I don't believe I've every seen so many movies featuring black and white women in the same movie if not in a scene together.
If I don't like to see black people fucking together do I am racist ? I don't think so. I like to identifiate myself as the guy who fuck the actress.
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lack100 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 28 2009 : 3:33AM
Ava rose, when she was on howard stern she said nothing about it being because of some thug theme. Why would a porn girl care about a theme? There is no such thing as classy porn...sorry! Its considered degrading no matter what the theme is.
I rememebr like it was yesterday, when she was on howard stern they asked her would she do/has she been with a black guy and she said NO. So why didnt she mention this thug theme on howard stern, instead of claiming she's never been with a black guy? Sounds more like embarrassment of the black cock ughh? yepp. The thug thing is just another lie girls tell, along with "black guys are to big" "my parents will kill me" "im from the south and we dont do that" ect... stick 3 or 4g's in Ava's or mia's face for a thugged out scene with westly pipes...i would love to see how fast they turn it down...$$$ From jesse jane to jenna jameson, to all your most antiblack guy girls out there, they might not admit it but remember they are all porn women and they all have a price. Be it skin color or a so called theme, with these women there is a $price for it that would give them the magical powers to look past it...~~ Edited by - lack100 on 9/28/2009 3:37:04 AM
What I don't understand is why the same members appear to be searching for something they know they don't want the answer to. It's very odd. What are you hoping to accomplish here? They have spent an abundance of time badmouthing certain performers who they claim don't work with Black men because they're "racist" (i.e. Alexis Texas), but yet they continue to disregard the tons of performers that will. Wouldn't it be simpler to just ignore the performers who don't and patronize those that do? After all, it's your money :) As a Black woman, I hate to break it to ya brothers: if there are, indeed, racist people in the industry who get off on seeing you disregarded...they are loving the fact that you appear to be so desperate for a White performer to even consider touching you. I mean, I love Jules Jordan but the fact that his interracial flicks only include Black male/White Female irritates me to no end. How can someone be the anointed "king of interracial porn" but never feature Black female performers? Don't make no sense..but it is what it is. I just spend my money on Mike Stefano instead.
Oh believe me, I'd much rather talk about those that are willing and do fuck black men on screen. The ones that will, far outweigh the ones who won't IMO. And luckily for me, they are some of the hottest women on the planet IMPO. I actually don't have that big a problem with women who won't perform with black men onscreen. Ultimately, it's her body, and only she should get to decide how she uses it and on whom. I just don't believe she has a right to influence "others" choices all-around.
I agree with the notion that it is ultimately the decision of the actress, but I think there are some extensions of this issue that make little to no sense. Just roll with me here for a sec...So you are in porn, correct. Why won't you work with someone in the biz bc of their skin color? I understand the "career-path" argument, but I think it's a weak one. If a girl wants to be in porn but says, "i love sex, i wanna do it all...except black guys", then in my opinion she has no place in porn. Sports Equation: A-Rod and the Yankees are in the playoffs, but A-Rod refuses to play b/c he doesn't want to face the opposing pitcher. He would be vilified forever and probably thrown off the team. Now a girl who works around this issue can have a long career, but too many people will always question her, "why did you never work with any black actors?" -- her response is irrelevant b/c it is quite obvious. She cannot simply say, "oh it never came up". That would be the lie of the century and put her in deeper water. It is sad that you wanna have sex for a living, make movies and do website work, but you won't do a scene with a guy b/c of skin color. I didn't know Jim Crow ran the porn industry...
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supa_dupa09 Deactivated User
118 Posts 6/09
Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 2:33AM
I know you are both on those sites, I didnt know who you were at first, because see Im kind of new to being a fan of IR porn, for years I watched mostly black porn, with some of that brazilian porn, so I didnt know who you are, are as in I seen you on fuckmefilthy out of just watching some hot girl get banged, LOL. Never seen you on www.mydeepdarksecret.com I'll check it out, but please dont say I was on your back, I just made that one comment aobut you being full of it, because you didnt clarify yourself well, you started to as your posts went along. Look I dont care about girls who dont do IR (I sound like Im beating a dead horse here.) because I watch IR and black porn, so I dont get where people find time to care about those sort of things. Hope I cleared things up.
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MrLongStiff Deactivated User
87 Posts 7/09
Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 12:28PM
No dude, this in not a laughable statement, its true. Watch Howard Stern when he interviews those porn girls and you'll understand.
Oh my god babe i so agree with you on this, it makes absolutely no sense for him to win any awards that deals with IR or to be placed on the top of ethnic videos when you have not one feature of a black female performer. Shit if it wasn't for Alexander Devoe we wouldn't see black females express themselves in all genres period
DAC is the king of interracial porn. Oh, wait, those gals are Asians. Never mind.
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supa_dupa09 Deactivated User
118 Posts 6/09
Posted - Oct 1 2009 : 7:11PM
That shouldnt only be personally, that should be fact you know what I mean? They got some of the best girls on blacksonblondes.com, and their scenes are starting to more and more hot and hot. Like I mentioned before that sadie west scene is like DAMN! that tag teamed her like a mofo. And that mellanie monroe scene and austin taylor scene is off the chain as well. And I love them cougar sites they have because of the janet mason, friday, julia ann and kylie ireland scenes, beautiful. Dogfart is the KINGS hands down.
This thread has gone a long way, since I last posted. The part about Ava Rose I must have missed something. Not only has she done IR, but she did a scene where she and Mia shared a brother. With that juicy ass, you know it had to happen. I've always liked Mia since I read a line from an interview. Something along the lines of she and her sister fucking the shit out of all these guys in their regular life, so why not do it and make some money. Talk about being able to get a genuine stroke out of their scenes. So Shayla LaVeaux is doing IR now. As I wrote earlier in the thread, they all eventually come calling. See where Veronica Rayne and Rucca Page have done IR too.
I saw this same topic on another board one time but the dude was talking about his wife. He was quite upset she wouldnt agree to be gang banged in front of him but insisted the marraige wasnt in trouble. I know this has nothing to do with the topic at all but it was rather funny...man I love the internet.
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 2 2009 : 11:06PM
For all of you Isis bashers out there, allow me the opportunity to remove the misconception of her as a racist once and for all. For the record, let it be known that I am a black male with no direct affiliation with Isis Taylor. The restrictions/policy that Isis imposes has nothing to do with racial preference and everything to do with "cultural style". You guys should have read between the lines when she stated she wants to work with people she’s "comfortable" with. The truth of the matter is, although she’d rather not say it herself (being the cool chick that she is), she just ain't feelin' the cocky, big ego, hip-hop,/bad-boy image so popular with young black males. Every girl is different. But in Isis' case, she obviously finds it to be a TURNOFF sexually! If you notice, the men of color she DOES work with - Ethan Hunt (her husband) and Prince Yashua, represent far more mainstream type of guys, without all the extra ego and swag.. The bottom line is… for the reasons i've just stated, most black male performers simply will not be her type! Anyway, that's my take on it. Isis, If I'm wrong, feel free to call me out!
^ Alright man, I already addressed it all, and no one's bashing her anymore. Let's just leave it alone everyone, for or against.
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 4:26PM
No one's mentioned Rachel Starr. Just checked iafd.com. 66 scenes, not a single one with a black male. However, she has done scenes with Marco Banderas and Manuel Ferrara.
That will be a very strange reason not to do IR. As far as Rachel Starr is concerned, she said she will do IR at some point but it will only be available through her website. Edited by - Nimrod on 10/3/2009 4:33:02 PM
Ava Rose...I was watching Rudetv.com on Tee Reel's show and a fan asked him why u and Tee hadn't worked together. T said he tried to book Ava and she never returned his calls then the co -host said she had shot an IR with Julius Cesar instead cause they where quote" drug buddies" is this true and if so for what movie.
Love you Aryana. You are gorgeous and I fancy your work. Agree with you 110% and was wondering how Black female stars such as yourself felt about his movies.
But with one large and very unhealthy obsession with her.
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wmonbear Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 8:59PM
Perhaps... but I don't think you're in a position to be judgemental. Seems you've been compelled by whatever personal reasons to visit ADT hundreds if not thousands of times. That in and of itself could be considered "unhealthy". Virtually all the members at ADT (that includes you) have his or her own obsessions (that's kinda why we're here), so for you to try and come off as holier than thou is senseless! Edited by - wmonbear on 10/3/2009 9:02:18 PM
Nasty is right about White Mamas 2. Shayla in interracial, Juli Ann in IR anal, and the return of Chloe. Lots of guys will be stroking to that vid. Rachel Starr is going to do IR, but exclusively for her website. Can't blame a girl for trying to make a few $$$
