I can clearly see what you hate. It isn't "idiots who cry racism" Here's your list: "obese people, small people, handicapped or mentally challenged people, people with no hair, people who have nothing but hair on their bodies." Everyone on the list could be of any ethnic extraction. What they have in common is abnormalities. Apparent you equate abnormal and African. Place your GF on this list. Apparently you believe she is abnormal. You have this woman believing she is part of a relationship while you merely indulge a fetish.
Greetings, It amazes me that in this day and age, we as black men are still viewed as threats, enemies, the lowest of the low...etc. As I stated before, racism has a stronghold on IR porn, as well as the industry to a certain extent. Now, as a black man, it's not that I want special treatment, I just want fair treatment, and I feel that the black men in the industry, be it the talent, directors, or owners, should demand that as well.
CapitalM, I like that you see it as I see it. Sometimes, I feel like we are in the 1950s or the 1800s...the funniest part is that most of these girls are born in the 70s, 80s and some of them are even born after 1990.
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i have done scenes with prince! does that not count for anything.... almost every girl in this industry has a restriction. i choose to do my IR scenes with someone i feel comfortable with and i know!! i did a scene with Ron to have bragging rights for shyts and giggles. you guys are taking things too seriously. i have fucked plenty of black men i even lost my virginity to a black man. you can't call me racist. its not a race issue. what about girls like london keyes or jayden james??? are they racist too??? is this just a isis bash or what?? -----> this is plenty of IR. www.onionbooty.com www.fuckmefilthy.com www.myrealxgirlfriends.com www.bigmouthfuls.com (shaggy is black) black assassin 3 & 5 latin sheet freaks big love 5
Isis i personally think you are one of the hottest if not the hottest girl ever to do porn BUT i think you are having some some trouble understanding the brothers points of view in this conversation. "i choose to do my IR scenes with someone i feel comfortable with and i know!!"" "its not a race issue" Do see how that could not make sense to some?? Do you feel the need to know and be comfortable with every white performer you work with?? You have done dozens of scenes with white guys and im sure you did not know them beforehand but still were able to work with them. The fact that you act differently depending on the color of someones skin is a race issue! I understand you are young and truly do not comprehend the plight of the black in this world. We deal with racism and prejudice in all angles of our lives but the last place we expect do deal with it is in porn! I do not think you are a racist just a little confused. You have shot a couple of fuck team 5's for bangbros with amatuers who i assume you did not know beforehand, now if a black man was in the mix who would you "work" with him?? not bashing just asking...
I don't like racists but I don't think Isis is a racist. She is just a little too picky when it comes to black men. Even though there are some hardcore racists in this business, I have to say that Isis isn't one of them but I can see why brothers feel that way about her. Edited by - Nimrod on 9/24/2009 10:52:15 PM
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Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 11:07PM
OK. But how does that mean she's not black? It just means that she's not of black American descent. I think people often confuse race and nationality.
^ Um, OK, sorry. You're right. I'll have to let Isis answer anything more specific. I had assumed by her explanations of ethnicity that she would likely be pointing to a mix of Ashkenazi / Anglo-Saxon / either Amerindian or Mestizo. But again, I guess she'll have to tell you for sure.
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Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 11:28PM
Thanks. I appreciate you answering. Usually, I wouldn't care what her ethnicity is, and I still don't. But considering the context of this thread, and that she is one of the only female performers in the industry who seems honest enough to directly engage herself in this discussion, I was just curious to know. I just always assumed she was black. Hopefully, she won't take offense to the question.
Dude! I could give less then a fuck about you voicing your opinions. When it does become an issue for me is when you post in almost everyones thread almost every day talking about the same shit. So its kind of hard to "not read" your posts. What irritates me even more is when people like you talk like you have all the facts, yet you don't know shit. You get proven wrong by almost everybody on here. You guys bash the talent and talk about how they won't do this and won't do that because "they are racsist" or whatever bs reason you can think of. This happens everyday. All day. In almost every thread. "IR this" and "IR that". So I'm not going to hide in one safe topic because you and your fellow IR Justice League team want to run around and hijack threads and create endless topics about the same old shit. I never said don't voice your opinion. I am saying you guys need to keep it in one place and not harrass and annoy everyone else who are trying to enjoy other civilized topics. And before you even try to think about calling my motives, views or opinions into question because of some race issue, I'll just clear it up for you. I'm black. I realize that some girls may be racsist. I realize some girls might have bad people that surround and influence them. I realize it all. The thing is, I just moved on. I don't sit here bitching about it everyday, endlessly. I don't try to persuade them into doing it. I don't bash, belittle or disrespect them either. Unless they come right out and say or do something disrepectful or rude, I leave it alone. Otherwise, its their choice. Period. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
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I told you before that if you don't like my posts don't read or answer them but you keep doing it. I won't force my opinion on girls who don't do IR on you and don't force yours on mine.
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 2:24AM
mathematik, you've hit the nail on the head right there. From reading Isis Taylor's post, it seems that all Black male performers have to go though a 3 interview filtering system for her to work with them. On the contrary, White males just need to show up to get hired. Ron Jeremy, WTF!! Ron Jeremy, the old pot bellied, out of shape hairy monster like Ron Jeremy?? COME ON!! No matter what any person say or tries to deny, their words and writings exposes their real thoughts. She may not be racist, but she sure has Black performers at the end of a very long barge pole. This is no knock on her. This is the truth. This also exposes the sorry attitude that Black people have to face in all aspects of society, especially in America. At first Black people couldn't get on the bus, when they finally did, they were told to sit at the back, when a Black man finally got a chance to sit in the middle of the bus, he had to have a Bachelors of Art Degree and a Masters just to be amongst everyday White folk who wasn't as qualified as him. Edited by - mrlongstiff on 9/25/2009 2:50:22 AM
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 2:33AM
SMARTEST THING SAID ON THIS FORUM, I BELIEVE CASE CLOSED RIGHT HERE, I DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHO ISIS TAYLOR, ALEXIS TEXAS, AND OTHERS WERE UNTIL SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT DONT DO BLACK GUYS, NOW WHY I DIDNT KNOW THEM, BECAUSE I PAY ATTENTION TO THE ONES THAT DO. SMART STATEMENT!
I told you before that if you don't like my posts don't read or answer them but you keep doing it. I won't force my opinion on girls who don't do IR on you and don't force yours on mine.
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WTF! Are you serious? Maybe if you didn't want anyone to respond to your post you wouldn't ask them a question at the end of it. Think before you speak. You don't seem to do that in a lot of your posts. Also if you don't want me to read or address your posts then STOP QUOTING MY POSTS. Everything was over and done with until you bring it back up again. *****The Dr. of Nasty***** Edited by - Dr. Nasty on 9/25/2009 3:15:41 AM
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 3:20AM
You guys should add this ebony porn star who doesn't do black guys. Her name is Lavish Styles, I can't believe she is the only black female in the adult film business that doesn't do black guys. You check her myspace page, she's got black music playing and some black fans. I wonder do they know that she doesn't fuck her own kind, lol. Can anyone explain to me, why she doesn't fuck black guys on film and is there any interview of her stating? Talking about self hatred!
I have been trying to avoid these topics and I dislike the fact that many white/latina porn stars refuse to work with black guys; but that is there choice. Lavish Styles on the other hand, truly disgust me. Hatred of self is the worst kind of hatred. I have no clue if she is mixed raced or not, but somewhere down the line she is here because of a black man. If she was doing something like Raven Black,Spring Thomas or Susan Reno I could truly understand her choice because they have created a niche for themselves doing strictly IR. That is not the case here in my opinion. She just seems the need to avoid her own kind. I've seen her on Eros and I wonder if she is doing the same thing in that case... smh
Whoa, jumped to a conclusion, did you? Can I explain her to you? No, I've never talked to her, so I can't explain her to you. However, I can think of an explanation that has nothing to do with self-hatred - marketing. She's got you talking about her, so if promotion is her goal then it seems to be working. Is it stupid? Hell, yes, but it wouldn't be the first stupid gimmick that worked.
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:21PM
and ps.... im hella picky when it comes to white performers to. this is ridiculous. im off of this thread. this is the most childish dumb shyt ive ever heard in my life. you guys are grown ass men telling a 19 year old girl that she is racist cuz she is selective.. so you can also call me racist against whites and everyone else. its cool. it has nothing to do with color of skin.... id like to see the guys that have a problem with i might just having to start doing only girl girl. that way i don't hear anything from the peanut gallery.
Isis... Please don't forsake ADT altogether! The thing we all need to understand about these "IR guys" is that, there is nothing that anyone can say or argue back that will change their position in the slightest. When stars, such as yourself, take the time to reply, you become merely a large target for them to continue to spout their "IR" agenda. Trust me, your participation here is far more valued than the many IR trolling threads that are currently all the rage. It really is a mod's nightmare, too. Insulting performers is not something we approve of here on ADT. Yet, we really can't moderate (edit) every single idiotic thread, post or poster who pushes the envelope, so to speak. For the most part, most of us know what the IR troll's games are, and we tune them out -- unless they become truly abusive and in clear violation of ADT forum etiquette (e.g. I had to take down some nut once, who just wouldn't leave Sierra Skye alone). I know it is very difficult to be the one being attacked -- especially when the attacks are false to begin with! In any event, I just thought someone should let you know you are a valued member of the ADT family.
Yeah Isis, its pretty much what Big Boxxx said. Your presence is very welcomed here. Unfortunately you have people in this world who just can't move on with their lives. They drag out the most controversial things with no proof, facts or anything to help support their argument. All I can say is ignore them and continue to do what you do. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
^+1 It's especially sad when hate is being thrown at performers who have done IR. First Mariah Milano, then Phoenix Marie and now Isis. (sigh) It just further proves that even if every performer decided to do IR, there would still be a very vocal minority looking for something to bitch about. Edited by - negrine on 9/25/2009 4:24:14 PM Edited by - negrine on 9/26/2009 12:11:01 AM
Trust me, there's no way you can escape this. Then they will complain if your not working with black girls. It makes me feel bad, because Josh said he shot her for me for SBC#3.. and since he mainly shoots IR, he went out and got that Dominican guy. I feel like that just rounded up the dogs then. I do ask questions about IR, and if a girl does it.. then I try not to bring up the issue again. Edited by - xayhoundb on 9/25/2009 4:55:00 PM
I think that folks should be holding the feet of IR dodgers to the fire, not those of folks like Isis. That's a colossal waste. Isis is Jewish and the Hedgehog is one of the few Jewish male performers left in a business that used to be predominantly Jewish male, on-camera. So I can see Isis wanting to "pad her resume" by doing a scene with someone like that, who also has done more porn than anyone else in history. It's not like she claimed that Ron is currently good-looking! It's the IR dodgers who do Ron Jeremy who have some explaining to do. Edited by - Sheldon on 9/25/2009 5:37:28 PM
You guys have it all wrong, what you're doing is assuming things and when people assume it makes an ASS out of U and ME = ) I choose not to do interracial for 2 reasons #1) I don't think the way interracial is portrayed in porno, is sexy and appealing to either the guy or girl.. In my opinion, it always seems like the same ol story..... Guy is all "thugged out" and the girl is this little "innocent" hussie. #2 Sean Michaels hasn't asked me yet = ) Then again, that is only my personal experience. I've done three interracial scenes, all being the same scenario as I stated above.
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 10:08PM
...and this was enough to write off all Interracial? Surely you've done non-IR scenes where the setups weren't necessarily to your liking. But did that translate to -- "no more scenes with white men!" Look, I apprecaite that you (& your sister Mia) were open to IR at first and tried a few scenes. Some porn chicks don't even make the attempt. But you've got to realize that there is more "high brow" Interracial out there. I suppose it was just easier to tell your agent "no IR", then to make him work and ask more questions about an IR assignment before you took it. I mean you don't just take ANY non-IR booking also do you? Jules Jordan, Lex Steele, LT, Alexander Devoe, even Jack Napier. All of 'em make the type of IR that is more about the sex than trying to hype up some thug stereotype. Edited by - tritone on 9/25/2009 10:10:11 PM Edited by - tritone on 9/25/2009 10:10:38 PM Edited by - tritone on 9/25/2009 10:11:23 PM
WOW! In 3+ years this is the one thread to get Ava Rose to respond back on ADT. I guess you guys did bring about 1 positive thing. Welcome back Ava! *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 11:22PM
Right I'm sure that is exactly what she was aiming for "Keeping it Jewish"! Since Jews cut association at the anything less than pure mark I find this idea silly. And by the way Israeli isn't an ethnicity its a nationality, she could equally have Arabic ancestry.
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 11:24PM
While I completely agree with her giving the big "Fuck You!" to this trite thread, I'm a little disappointed that she didn't get around to answering my question first before doing it. Even if it was just to tell me to mind my own business, it's still good to atleast be acknowledged. Anyway, even if I don't know exactly what her race is, Who gives a fuck? She's still hot as hell, and I don't care who she decides to fuck (Can it be me?). Plus, hearing that she's 19 is way more of a turn-on than knowing her race.
On another note I have to respond to this comment made by you Ava. Not to add fuel to the fire or anything. You say the above statement and I have to call it into question. As I said before, I know plenty of people/companies/directors who don't do "IR" scenes the way you describe them in your statement. So I have to say that your statement doesn't really hold much weight. L.T, Mason, William H, Jules Jordan, Jenna Haze ......I could go on forever. None of those directors and companies do the whole "thugged out" thing as you call it. Don't get me wrong. You are right. A lot of companies do. You are right to avoid them. But there are plenty.....Plenty of companies out there that do not put girls in those type of scenes. So I personally think that is a weak excuse. No offense to you Ava. I still enjoy all of your work and you are doing an amazing job out there. These are just my thoughts on your statement. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
Holy shit, an Ava Rose sighting. and i swear i haven't seen as much of a militant bunch than the serious IR fans. Goddamn i like IR as much as the next, but i don't give a fuck if someone does it or not. I see the points people are making, but it all comes down to the girl/woman's choice DAMN. ----Dread----
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 11:30PM
If you saw them, you would understand why they do nothing but jerk off and cry for mommy.....
haha! I have said this like 100 times man. There is no stopping them. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
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Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 12:08AM
To AvaRose It's WHITE run companies like HUSH HUSH with a nasty HIDDEN sinister agenda against IR that make IR unattractive to White female actresses. The White companies like HUSH HUSH and their White directors thrive on offensive unattractive stereotypical scenes of animalistic Black thugged out males ravishing the young White female in the aim of frightening off potential White female porn actresses into doing IR. Are you trying to tell us that you haven't heard of long time HIGH BROW actors like Mr Marcus, Lexington Steele ect. Like other posters have said, your argument DOES NOT HOLD UP. Especially when you ALLOW White male actors to do the very same things that you're accusing Black actors of doing to you.
Can someone tell me the name of this thread again....ok thanks..Now, I thought that this was a forum for us porn connoisseurs to discuss porn, and everything that comes along with it. Unfortunately, racism is one of those things, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so why is it that when someone vents about this very subject, they also have to defend themselves against someone who feels that they should just leave it alone?....once again, this thread is titled ''She won't do black guys''...what did you all think we'd be discussing here?. I for one think that this is a very interesting thread, and I don't see why we can't discuss these things civilly....has anyone thought about starting a thread titled ''she will do black guys'', or ''she loves black guys''..or ''she loves all guys''. I, as well as anyone else should be able to call a porn star out when she's obviously full of S!@#, that being the case with the females we've been discussing here....Just a few things that were on my mind
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Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 12:13AM
Lets all APPLAUD Sasha Grey for not allowing herself to fall for the BULLSHIT White racist lies and negative propaganda ragarding IR. Sasha Grey is a STAR. Doing IR certainly did not hold her career back. In fact she is going to be a much bigger crossover star than that Jamma Jameson. Well Done to Miss Grey.
It's funny, and I mean ha ha funny, how some of these chicks have more excuses than someone who's about to be arrested...Ok, you don't do IR..that's fine, I just don't want to see you in a supposedly IR film....Ok, you've done IR before, but you don't anymore...cool, keep it moving. I stated that the main issue lies with the directors that cast you in an IR film....they force our hand, because in a lot of situations we want to see the rest of the movie....face it people, this subject will stand the test of time, and this thread is like temptation, you're either open, or closed to it...there's no in between Edited by - CapitalM on 9/26/2009 12:50:58 AM
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Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 12:27AM
Well Said ^^ Edited by - mrlongstiff on 9/26/2009 12:39:32 AM
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Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 12:51AM
Oh my fault, Gotcha!!
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See this is why it continues, when pornstars give a reason, instead of just leaving it alone, if you cant come up with an INTELLIGENT answer. You would of been better off saying... well Im not going to say what you would of been better off saying, you should smart enough to know what you said was dumb. Im starting to think some of these throw fuel on the fire on purpose for publicity or they just that ignorant to race relations. But regardless caring about it is making black men, which I assume black men are complaining about it, seems like it, where is the black pride and proud of being black. Proud black men wouldnt give a damn about especially a pornstar not doing black guys, because a real proud wouldnt see it as a black man's lost, that would be a low for a black man to think of white women. And I like white women, but Im sorry I dont see them as no special gift to the black man. And forget lavish styles too, Did anyone hear me when I said there are girls out there that dont do WHITE MEN, like Vanilla Red Kim Treats Cali Davenport Darlene Amaro Luana Flame (Am I missing anybody?) Now they probably dont have the fame of the whitegirls and girls that do white men, but hey its a white man's world, but still regardless there are women out there that dont do white men. If you want to be fair then complain about them too. Or see it as "Oh well there are girls out there that dont do whiteguys, so who cares." and move it along. But with answers like these from those pornstars, a little part of me is seeing why this continues, because WOW that answer made no sense.
where is the black pride and proud of being black. Proud black men wouldnt give a damn about especially a pornstar not doing black guys, because a real proud wouldnt see it as a black man's lost, that would be a low for a black man to think of white women. And I like white women, but Im sorry I dont see them as no special gift to the black man.
..... Where's the mods on this board? I read that and seriously :: face palm :: People are entitled to their opinions. So, I guess I will leave it at that. The Art of Pleasure
^ OMG! Now Mia Rose. I would have never thought a bunch of guys complaining about "IR" would get so much attention. Welcome back Mia! As you can see this thread is just insane...I would just avoid it if I were you. These guys have been calling girls racists among other things with no proof what-so-ever most of the time. Though I will say a few good points are being made on both sides, it just seems that their tact is very bad. Hopefully threads like this won't dissuade you from coming here as a lot of us enjoy the presense of you and your sister. Just pay it no mind. If you do continue to come in here, please, do not take any of this to heart. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
