▲▲▲▲To add to what aya is saying, porn can also turn to 'alternative', non mainstream, emergent or underground companies as a source of money. Imagine hooking up with drug paraphenalia companies or even natural health and holostic based companies. Symbiotic relationships would be good. Think of the partnership between the gay press and poppers companies going back to the 70s for instance. These mutually beneficial relationships are there to be had. Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 4/6/2015 3:17:04 PM
The pay-per-scene seems like a good idea. Max convenience is the best way to combat the tube sites, etc. BTW - Believe Inari Vachs made a similar "career change" - with little fanfare. Edited by - KinkWilliams on 4/5/2015 8:58:14 PM
@KinkWilliams Uhhhh...Wall Street is more shocking than life insurance, and I worked at a blue chip firm. Plus, social media and internet connectivity. I mean, duh.
Carl's Jr would advertise on a kiddie porn set in a heartbeat if they thought it would be profitable and libertarians could get it legalized. Porn is the one industry that corporations won't use product placement for non porn products because it would hurt their family friendly image. Once the bean counters decide they'll get an extra $2 there will be Lego's and Hello kitty backpacks sitting next to the lube on gay porn sets. And social conservatIves will still vote for politicians that get campaign $ from them.
Thanks for the reply but do you actually think your examples are mainstream companies? A blog food site/app is not exactly what I would consider mainstream. If it was attached to a well known company than maybe but it clearly is not. I would also like to add that your example of the underwear company advertising on a website should have been researched a little more prior to posting it because the article is two years old, the porn site it pertains to was some kind of tube site and it is now quite dead. My idea of mainstream is something that most people can recognize. For it to be a true cross-market advertising campaign than it can't be anything that is connected with adult oriented entertainment. if you can give me a name that I can recognize and I will gladly eat crow and sing your praises but otherwise I must conclude that no mainstream company wants their name or product associated with porn.
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Posted - Apr 6 2015 : 3:21PM
▲Why does it have to be mainstream companies? It's really just a matter of any company that will deal. Poppers companies are not mainstream, yet they were benificial in helping finance the gay press.
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6▲Instead of combatting tube sites, just work with them. Set up an account there and connect with fans. I've already talked about creating a free2watch approach and insentivising payment. Also creative commons is the future so I suggest porn embrace it.
You have to stop with your idea that working with tube sites is somehow going to be beneficial for the porn industry. I have an amazing suggestion for you. How about you get a group of strangers to steal some of your stuff so that they can sell it on Ebay or another similar site. You could get in touch with those thieves and offer to promote whichever site they are using to sell your stuff. This way you get the chance to buy new stuff that these guys will steal and sell and you can again help them with their sale by advertising the site where your stolen stuff is being offered. Is that something that you would like to do? if not then please stop offering suggestion that porn producers should deal amicably with content thieves. You don't deal with them. You simply annihilate them anyway you can.
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▲I don't consider it stealing pat:) If I were an artist, free availability would be part of my approach. I am perfectly fine with accepting money in a none copyrighted, voluntary libertarian fashion. There's a great indy heavy metal band called Nylithia that are completely cool with the torrents. I am from that mindset.
I'm sure porn will be able to stop piracy just like the music, film, and television industry has. Of course because of the stigma of porn, piracy is allowed to be legitimized in the form of an actual company. Unless somebody is going to buy mindgeek and dismantle them, the most effective way of combating piracy is alternative convenient methods of content delivery.
^You do know that the music, movie and tv industry never stopped piracy. All they have managed to do in the last decade is hurt some of the bigger players in large part because government agencies went after the thieves. I think you can find plenty of sites where you can watch for free brand new movies and tv shows that are currently playing and stolen music is still easily available on multiple sites. The one saving grace for mainstream media is that they have such a huge amount of paying customers that they are able to absorb the loss from content thieves. The porn industry has none of the things the mainstream media has. No government agency is going to come to their rescue even though it would be in their interest to do so because whether people like it. Porn producers pay taxes and the people who work in porn also pay taxes. The people getting their porn for tube and torrent sites aren't going to turn around and voluntarily pay for stuff they now get for free. At least they won't as long as they can get it for free or they can get away with it.
▲▲▲▲I have Jack, what I don't do is apply the definition to the virtual/ideational world where disposession does not happen. Stephan Kinsella, who comes from an Austrian economics propertarian perspectives, doea a good job arguing against the assumptions of IP. You will also find several creators who reject the idea that their content was 'stolen'. Physical theft is much more unambiguous and matter of fact. Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 4/7/2015 9:13:20 PM
If you actually read what I wrote, you'll note that I didn't say anything either way about "her story". What I said was that her writing demonstrates she's smart. And it does. If you don't get that, then you're an even bigger idiot than I previously thought.
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I thought the GIF Veronica Vain posted to her Twitter account on April 21 ("Skill") was suitably impressive from a porn viewpoint. And yet, it is her personality (expressed in video interviews, etc.) which attracts me most strongly. "Veronica Vain" is like a reality show with its axis on her Twitter account. Just yesterday she was banned from Twitch for the third (and final?) time, which is too bad because her Twitch game streams allowed fans to be entertained by her casual and sometimes-hilarious personality. I am looking forward to May when her exclusivity contract ends and she will be free to fire the next stage of her career rocket. I sure hope it's a good one, with lots of colorful fireworks and entertainment.
I don't know if any other porn performers are yet streaming on Periscope or Meercat, but for the past week Veronica Vain has been frequently streaming on Periscope and chatting informally with the viewers. Stream locations included behind the scenes on the porn set, poolside, exercising, while going out for food, etc. I think she's very good, giving a nice glimpse of her personality while she chats and answers questions. For those who are not asking chat questions, it's better to "hide chat" on Periscope, so that her body isn't partially blocked by onscreen chat comments.
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Posted - May 23 2015 : 10:22AM
Already? Which tits version am I seeing in the Evil Angel "Wall Street" scenes? Veronica's total look in these videos approaches perfection. PLEASE tell me these already are the "new tits."
^Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but those were the old ones. You can see the new ones in her Tonight's Girlfriend scene. Bearing in mind that I tend to not be a fan of implants than I can at least say that she didn't go overboard with the size and the finish product is not bad for implants but that's as far as I'm willing to go. If I were to say more than it would be all negative and I'm trying not to do that these days and frankly it's too late to complain about it since she has new fake breasts. Edited by - pat362 on 5/24/2015 2:33:55 PM
^ She wasn't natural to begin with. The tits in her scene with Manuel were implants as well. I think her new set is nice. They're certainly big, but not cartoonishly so.
First of all, I do not look like Teri Weigel. That's rude. Second, I've never had great tits (well I think the new ones are great I just want them to drop more). The "old ones" everyone keeps crying about from Screwing Wall Street were implants and they were messed up partly due to a minor chest deformity I have, to having gone too small at too young of an age, and to years of pole dancing and building chest muscle. Here are the horrendous original boobs that looked completely disproportionate on my body: Here are the boobs from Screwing Wall Street being all messed up and differently shaped: And here are the new awesome set that just haven't quite dropped yet: One is still bigger than the other but I'm much happier. We can only strive for perfection but never quite reach it.
I think it's funny you all say I didn't go too big. These puppies are 800ccs which is gigantic (Peta Jensen has 550s by comparison) and they look just right on me and I'm a 34DD. I told you I have a fucked up chest haha.
I thought the last scene she shot with Tonights Girlfriend was great. She seems very enthusiastic and puts a lot of effort into making it look believable. It would be great for a studio to film another dedicated film to her and include scenes like a B/G/G and an IR. Also I would like to see some different money shot finishes maybe a creampie and one on the tits.
For some reason, the "Bang on my chest if you think I'm perfect!" line from "The Wizard Of Oz" springs to mind! Somehow, it has a whole different meaning when I post this here, however! Honestly though, one's body image is a very personal thing, and if a bit of body enhancement helps, so be it. Perhaps Veronica should use the "Bang on my chest" line, followed with "And see that I'm perfect!" in a future scene? "Bang on my chest, and see that I'm perfect!" The more I think of it, that would be so Hot!