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Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 1 2024 : 8:32AM
^Not a big fan of POV porn, but I'm curious for this scene. I want to see how is featured and the casting looks good.
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LittleMissLively
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Posted - Oct 1 2024 : 4:43PM
lol fair - that wasn't fair. and believe me she's the hottest woman on earth when she goes to work, to me. I'm happy that as I age cartoonish feminine gorgeousness plays a diminished role in my aesthetic - before if the girl wasn't a carmen luvana-esque beauty my interest had a ceiling. Now one-well timed moan and it's goodnight Irene.
blackdragontea
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Posted - Oct 3 2024 : 1:34PM
I have not watched either scene, but yeah Kayden seems to be a very versatile woman with a very energetic side. Once again, it's just too bad she did not do more g/g scenes.
 
blackdragontea
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Posted - Oct 3 2024 : 1:45PM
"Intimate POV" -- I'm not really sure what that means. It will be interesting to see.

I went back to the data I collected when I analyzed 10 years of girlsway data, and looked at the original POV channel on Adult Time "Sextape Lesbians," which got cancelled. Most of the videos from that channel were released in 2014-15, and averaged about 22k views. Overall the 2014 videos got about 30k views, and 2015 videos got 33k views. So as a genre POV wasn't very popular, and likely that's why they stopped making them.

Scotty B_1123
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Posted - Oct 3 2024 : 3:00PM
BDT, these are amazing stats and quite interesting to see! I especially appreciate the below stat the most showing so many straight women who are aroused by lesbian sex, very encouraging!

-- Do straight women like lesbian porn? 70.4% have watched lesbian porn, and 58.7% are aroused by it.

blackdragontea
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Posted - Oct 3 2024 : 3:41PM
Glad to see you find them interesting! The survey didn't ask the women what specific kind of lesbian porn they watched, but I think it's safe to assume most are watching "mainstream lesbian porn," as opposed to queer/dyke porn, simply because the former are so much easier to find than the latter. It turns out almost 60% of straight women and more than 90% of surveyed lesbian women find them arousing.

So next time if you hear someone saying something like "Mainstream lesbian porn is unappealing/trash/made for men/etc.," don't be so ready to concede that point.

LittleMissLively
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Posted - Oct 3 2024 : 8:58PM
Famously smart, too. She used to wax very literary on social media, big DeLilo fan, and wrote these quasi expressionist accounts of porn sex that were pretty good. Added to her hotness significantly I always thought.
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Posted - Oct 3 2024 : 11:20PM
Enjoyed the Lesbian X scene with Gabbie Carter and Lena Paul a lot. Lena was gushing over Gabbie the whole time, complimenting and praising her every chance she gets.

Any recommendations for scenes where one actor is very attracted to their costar and shows it verbally and sexually?
Like the The We Like Girls Project videos from adult time.

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Edited by - palakpalak on 10/3/2024 11:23:48 PM

Lezzyist
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Straight women watching lesbian porn is an indictment of the BG stuff. They watch because they want to self-insert as a woman on the screen and GG is not as focused on intentionally making the woman look like she is having a bad time and is sometimes less centered on a dick than the average BG content, so the straight girls get to see more "sensual" behavior in GG, on average.
Miss Munchausen
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Posted - Oct 4 2024 : 5:34AM
Anikka Albrite & Lia Lor from Girl Crush 3 comes to mind

Lily Carter & Lizz Tayler from Lily Carter Is Irresistible. Lizz & Lily used to be a couple & they had sizzling chemistry.
They had another scene in Lesbian Workout where Lizz makes Lily cum over & over again.

^ All 3 scenes are from Elegant Angel

blackdragontea
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Posted - Oct 4 2024 : 11:39AM
I didn't know about her social media posts. It sounds very interesting! I'm not sure what "quasi-expressionist porn" is but that sounds scary 😆 Aside from literature, she certain has proven how smart and capable she is. As I mentioned in another thread, if you add directing awards to her acting awards, she has won more AVN awards than all but two women in history of porn (Angela White is #1, Asa Akira is #2, Kayden is tied with Jenna Jameson at #3).

Anyway, I'm continuing with my Kayden Kross retrospective. Here's a review of a scene between she and Valentina Nappi from the 2017 movie "Kayden Loves Girls." Kayden looks gorgeous as usual, but this scene actually belongs mostly to Valentina, which came as a great surprise to me. I have never realized how good she can be.

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I like the dress and lingerie they start out in, though Valentina's dress proves a bit tight to be taken off easily. The furniture they use to have sex on in this scene is just terrible: a very hard-looking chair, and an even harder wooden table. Yikes. Anyway, they kiss deeply and gorgeously, and Valentina sexily sucks on Kayden's stiff nipples during the foreplay.

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Valentina's oral on Kayden is just lovely. She licks Kayden's pussy, buries her tongue deep inside Kayden, and then just sucks on her clit hard. I'm very surprised to see this. She is a veteran of the industry, and somehow I just never realized how good she can be. My mistake. Also: did I mention how beautifully they kiss and keep kissing?

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Kayden nicely eats her ass and rubs her clit from behind. Then they try another position where Valentina eats Kayden's pussy from below. Honestly she does it really well, but wow is that uncomfortable or what, the way the edge of that table digs into her back. Again, the super hot kissing.

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Valentina gets back to (sexy) work: this time she uses her fingers to fuck Kayden hard, and she later combines them with her tongue and mouth.

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They then do a 69. This is unfortunately the only time in the scene where Kayden does oral -- unfortunate because you can see just how beautiful it is. More excellent kissing, and the way Kayden sucks on Valentina's beautiful breasts from below is excellent.

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The final part of the scene is Valentina once again showing how good she is with her fingers and mouth. They end the scene is yet more gorgeous kissing.

blackdragontea
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Posted - Oct 4 2024 : 1:24PM
The idea that straight women can't stand straight porn so they watch lesbian porn is flatly contradicted by the data from study I talked about. It's all there in the very first table I posted.

The same pool of straight female respondents (over 2,000 of them) -- 70.4% of whom have watched lesbian porn and 58.7% of them found it arousing -- like straight porn a lot more. 89% of them have watched straight porn, and 92.6% of them found it arousing.

The idea that straight women want to "self-insert as a woman on the screen" is also contradicted by the data. It's there in the second and third table.

Among the same straight women, when watching straight porn, just 16.4% of them watch the women, and only 12.1% do so because they want "to be like her." They are aroused by the interaction, the sex itself.

Edited by - blackdragontea on 10/4/2024 1:33:08 PM

Lezzyist
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Posted - Oct 4 2024 : 1:58PM
^I'm thinking about otherwise straight women who watch lesbian porn in the present tense, as like a consistent thing. It seems that chart is saying 70% of the people they surveyed had seen it before and 58% liked what they saw. If a straight woman is watching lesbian porn as her regular thing, it is probably because she is not connecting with how the women are presented/acted upon in the straight porn that she is aware of. https://www.womenshealthmag.com/sex-and-love/a19947774/straight-women-lesbian-porn/

Edit: I suppose I shouldn't have said "liked what they saw", necessarily. People can get aroused watching even people they find ugly/unattractive bone. A lot of it is the circumstance of the boning happening.

Edited by - lezzyist on 10/4/2024 2:03:41 PM

 
Breeze310
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Posted - Oct 4 2024 : 10:11PM
Yes let's try to keep this little one topic alive. If anyone knows anymore videos where the girls creams, provide them please. Saw the other couple videos on this thread, but I know there's more out there.
Lezzyist
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Posted - Oct 4 2024 : 11:15PM
^I'm not into Serene Siren (goofy surgeries and terrifyingly cheesy acting), but credit where it's due, sometimes she seems genuinely sapphic/WLW. One such time was a shoot with Eva Long for Girlfriendsfilms. Serene gets Eva to cream quite a bit, then licks the cream up as if she is a freaky gay girl.

https://www.hotmovies.com/adult-clips/1607378/scene-1


If I had my way shoots would focus on physical acting moments like that instead of all the stupid injured-cat sound effects. Bring in more performers who can act freaky and nasty for their fellow women!

LezFan
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Posted - Oct 4 2024 : 11:57PM
^ I love Serene. If you want true genuine passion with girls loving girls then Serene should be your girl. Ive heard her in podcasts talk about how she genuine loves girls. When she first started she literally used to fall for every girl she shot with. Like wanting to take them home and stuff. But then she realized thats unrealistic to get caught up in your feelings hard like that especially over someone you might not work with but just once ever. But she genuinely loves girls and you can see that in her scenes.

Every girl isnt going to have that specific package you look for. I remember watching an Abbywinters scene with Cleo. She literally was quiet the entire scene. Even her scene partner was like you have quiet orgasms. And she said yeah. To me its ok but Im not big on someone barely showing emotions or barely making a sound when they are receiving pleasure or having an orgasm. At the same time I get when a girl is too over the top. So both extremes can be meh. I just want to know if the girl is genuinely enjoying herself and Cleo was genuinely enjoying herself so that I liked.

I do understand though that not every performer is going to be for everyone. But again if you want someone who genuinely enjoys women then Serene is your girl.

Lezzyist
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Posted - Oct 5 2024 : 1:40AM
^I agree that Serene Siren sometimes looks really into it. That, and the cream of course, are why I linked to that shoot.

As far as "passion," I get leery when people starting trying to depict that. These people most often do not even slightly know each other, and it looks awkward when they try to act like they are doting on each other. It's hot when they can genuinely find something they like about each other, but all that attempted acting usually distracts them from the actual content. That's how Serene ends up saying some ick-inducing cringe nonsense.

The quality in the content, imo, is when some actual interpersonal interactions occur - not between some apparently brain-damaged characters but between the ladies as themselves - and also when the performers are just going for it physically, like Serene did with Eva Long.

The constant cat-noise metronome and silly theater stuff generally take the rawness out of the interactions. And no matter how much onomatopoeia noise Leammy Kimmings (made-up performer name) is doing, it doesn't obscure them trying their hardest to make pussy-tongue contact as lightly as humanly possible. In fact, the noise acting just makes the lack of action and discomfort with what they are doing stand out even more.

For my money, bring me the raw only. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Of6gWjHivc4

LezFan
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Posted - Oct 5 2024 : 9:34AM
^ I agree in that when someone is faking it things can look very awkward and just not good overall. Thanks for that link with Jane bc I believe it was Jane on twitter one time pointing out how different girls express how they are feeling when being pleasured. I love how Jane goes about expressing herself in the moment of being pleasured. She comes across as real in her scenes so Im not shocked at all that she was saying that in the podcast with Holly.
Polo900
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Posted - Oct 5 2024 : 9:39AM
Serene Siren is one of the best performers right now. I know you don't like the noises, but I haven't seen her make fake sounds in any scene ever. Maybe this one is different, but believe me, she is so into girls and wants to make the scene perfect in every way possible, even if the other girl is not into it and just wants to shoot the scene and go, like the one she did with Summer Hart, who just wasn't into it at all for some reason. But it's your opinion, and not everyone likes the same thing. Just asking what surgeries are you talking about?
Lezzyist
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^You're mixing up two different things I mentioned. I don't remember ever being annoyed by Serene's porn-moans. I was talking about her tendency to say really cheesy corny stuff in the middle of the action for the sake of the skit. Just chewing scenery. As far as porn surgeries, performers sometimes have the stiff, jutting-out chest implants, but really I don't care for any stuff like that in a shoot, whether chest, butt, face, or otherwise. It all looks silly and uncanny valley.

I realize now that I think across the board, the less fake, the less cartoony, the better. Just be natural and that will increase the odds of capturing quality interactions on film.

Edited by - lezzyist on 10/5/2024 9:12:44 PM

Polo900
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 9:51AM
Oh, sorry for that, but I think that's what makes her unique with these improvised lines in the middle of the scenes. As for the chest implant, this may be the only option for a person With a slim body like hers, with no fat or anything. But I respect your opinion about it.
charlieforde
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 11:47AM
Sadly I have not fucked Dharma for a company yet. This is someone else. I would love to! And we've fucked in a shower for our content pages, but this is not me if people are going to see it with me in it :)
charlieforde
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 11:48AM
I won't put it on MV and OF, it is available on professional sites though!
 
charlieforde
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LezFan
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 12:03PM
I agree that kissing video with Charlie and Little Puck was so hot.

Speaking of Little Puck, what do you all think of her?

I really havent seen much of her and like zoned in on her. She is super new to me and for the most part it takes me awhile to really warm up to someone who is new.

Polo900
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 1:54PM
The "I do" scene with Lily. Where exactly can you find it?
whyalwaysbilly
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whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 3:10PM
This was released today and I gave it a watch. While I liked bits of it I think it was something that works better in theory than in practice, I don't think POV really works in a GG scene. The main problem is that, well, you can't SEE enough, at least with a p***s it protrudes out so you can actually see it but with a pussy it's pretty much hidden in POV (from that perspective at least). The other thing is, it doesn't always stick to POV, there's an intro and parts of the sex have regular shots. Imo that's like when found footage movies don't stick to the format. There are good things, the intro is gorgeously performed and shot (although I suspect this part was directed by Bree), the POV did feed well into the the whole intimate vibe they were going for (hence the title) and there is plenty of hand-holding and I love you's which I *ahem* love.
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 4:02PM
^Yeah, that's exactly the problem with POV girl/girl. In a B/G scene, all the action gravitates to the big "amigo", but with only women, you need to watch all the interactions and of course, pussy licking from that position is kind of complicated to enjoy. But still, I will give it a chance. The cast is interesting and if there are regular shots, maybe is more enjoyable. Who knows!!!
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 4:11PM
I agree with you; it was a nice and new experience. It is always good to get something different every now and then, jessica Ass was so good in the POV Put in 69, Chloe. Don't do much to her, and that's kind of sad for me.
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 4:16PM
^Yep, variety is the spice of life. I'm going to watch it again.
Bistahieversor
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Posted - Oct 7 2024 : 5:46PM
Well, I watched the scene finally and it was pretty good. I agree that you can't view everything, but the scene is enough well made to enjoy the experience. Kudos to both Jessica Ryan and Chloe Amour. Both are fantastic and honestly, Chloe is improving in her roles so much. I want to see her in more scene that doens't involve her being the step daughter. She could deliver more out of the usual family roleplaying. Other thing to mention are some hot hots, including a perfect view of Jessica's ass and the squirting over Chloe. Very exciting.
Dartfish
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Posted - Oct 8 2024 : 3:21PM
I'm confused - you definitely do have a scene with Dharma for AllHerLuv

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whyalwaysbilly
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^Charlie posted in the AHL thread that she just forgot.
blackdragontea
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Posted - Oct 8 2024 : 4:11PM
Quick, everybody spread the rumor that Dharma is very insulted, and they are now officially beefing!

Jokes aide, Charlie said so when replying to my review of the scene. I feel very honored. 😊

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^
Story of modern day porn, scenes are as forgettable to shoot as they are to watch.
blackdragontea
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whyalwaysbilly
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Posted - Oct 8 2024 : 6:08PM
^Ngl, I got more than a chuckle out of that. Well played sir.

Edited by - whyalwaysbilly on 10/8/2024 6:08:53 PM

blackdragontea
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Glad to be of service!
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Guys, did you know that there is a scene for SLAYED with Serene Siren, Spetermer Regin, and Kenzie Anne that was shot in 2022? To this day, it has not been released, and I think it probably never will be.
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Shadow115
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You mean September Reign? Anyways, it happens. Slayed had that Mia Melano and Alex Grey scene in the archive and eventually released it.

You want to talk about a scene lost to the abyss? I'm still waiting for a Karlee Grey and Mary Moody scene that someone filmed years ago. Now there's one that won't ever see the light of day.

IAFD lists 26 women Mary has been in films with. There's 3 women on that list that I'm really into. Of course they made sure to release every scene with women I have little or no interest in and leave the Karlee one on the shelf.

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And from what I've seen on twitter, iirc there's a scene featuring Adira Allure, which hasn't been released as well.
Breeze310
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Posted - Oct 9 2024 : 7:41PM
How do yall feel about Capri Cavanni and her GG scenes? She reposted someone's tweet a day or so ago
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Polo900
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She has done five G/G since she came back, and they were good for me. She is very nice, and definitely we want her back to adulttime; she will make a nice step-mommy scenes
blackdragontea
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I had watched and reviewed one of her scenes on Sweetheart Video last year. It's a threesome with Freya Parker and Shay Sights. It's very good.
Polo900
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She also has a scene with Rachael Cavalli that was epic and a crazy threesome with Richelle Ryan and Kylie Rocket.
Grigor3
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^^ for me the one with Melody Marks from SHV is the best yet. and she did it a scene for GF lately.
blackdragontea
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Next stop on my Kayden Kross retrospective: a scene with Bree Daniels from the movie Girl Squared, released in 2013 from Digital Playground. It's a dark (both figuratively and literally), intense, and extremely erotic scene.

Before getting into the details, there are a few things to be said about the movie in general. I had intended to review her scenes in chronological order, but by mistake I had missed this scene earlier -- this came out earlier than the previous three scenes I reviewed. Kayden didn't just star in this one, she also directed and wrote this one. In fact, according to IAFD, this was the very first film she ever directed, and Girl Squared was a lesbian only movie. Is this because Kayden has always had a soft spot for g/g movies? Or because Digital Playground didn't care about g/g that much, so handed this one off to the rookie?

Anyway, the pairing from the movie are as follows, again according to IAFD:

Scene 1 Kiera Winters, Raven Rockette
Scene 2 Brett Rossi, Karlie Montana
Scene 3 Layla Rose, Samantha Ryan
Scene 4 Dani Daniels, Skin Diamond
Scene 5 Bree Daniels, Kayden Kross

I managed to find the last 4 scenes on Digital Playground's website, but the first one is missing for unknown reasons. Glancing through the other three scenes, the title begins to make sense. The movie appears episodic (there doesn't seem to be a unifying plot), and explores female/female sexual or romantic relationship. The Brett/Karlie scene is about sexual relationship between friends, the Layla/Samantha scene is about bittersweet nostalgia about an old relationship, the Dani/Skin scene is about a first date, and the last one between Bree and Kayden is about jealousy. It makes me wonder what the scene between Kiera and Raven is about. All in all, a lot of thought seems to have been put into this movie.

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It seems Bree and Kayden are two strippers, presumably already in a relationship and share a home, who have been hired to entertain a bunch of guys. At one point Kayden sees Bree doing a lapdance for a guy, and she explodes in jealousy. There are very few spoken lines, but I think both women do a really good job to convey the intense emotion. When they get home, a fight breaks out, and at one point Bree throws a framed photo after Kayden!

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Eventually Kayden wrestles Bree to the ground and grates out, "Are you with me?" Finally Bree slowly nods, and they kiss with passion and energy (incidentally, I thought "Are you mine?" would have been better). This may be over-generalizing on the basis of too few samples, but it seems this may be the sort of g/g scene Kayden likes: short, quick setup that is somewhat dark and emotionally intense. Anyway, the foreplay is red hot as appropriate, as both practically swallow each other's gorgeous breasts.

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Kayden dives in and eats Bree's pussy like she's a starving woman. She then inserts two fingers into Bree -- and oh my. This is some of the best finger fucking I've ever seen. Kayden curls and forcefully massages the front wall of Bree's vagina. It's so, so, so hot.

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Bree then pushes Kayden up against the wall to fuck her with her mouth and fingers too. Kayden really is a gorgeous woman, and her "pleasured" expression just makes her even more beautiful. In this part, the intense eye contact between the two is also fantastic.

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Kayden then flips Bree around to rub her pussy hard while the two keep biting and kissing and looking straight into each other eyes.

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Bree pushes Kayden down onto the floor to keep kissing her. Kayden then uses her fingers again on Bree.

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She then eats Bree's pussy from below in some of the best, most intense oral from a face-sitting position I've seen. Bree then finger fucks her from behind.

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She finally finger fucks Kayden while hugging and kissing her from behind. In a wonderful moment at the end, the two finally seem to slow down, as Kayden takes Bree's hand (which has just been fucking her) and holds it almost reverently, and slowly smells and licks it, almost like a silent apology.

For what it's trying to do, I think the scene succeeds wonderfully. Damn. How many amazing g/g scenes we would have had, if only Kayden had pursued this genre with greater effort, either as a director or as a star.




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