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Beerfan99
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Posted - Mar 9 2015 : 5:41PM
^All porn studios are trying to make a buck,their only producing what the customers buy.
fredgee
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Posted - Mar 9 2015 : 6:54PM
Black women are turning away from porn in general. Most of the recognizable Black actresses won't be doing porn next year or they will be making their own product..
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Posted - Mar 9 2015 : 8:49PM
That is a good question.
IWatchUSmash
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Posted - Mar 10 2015 : 8:02PM
The issue is it's not about "more IR"...the issue is it's ALL IR and the black genre is being totally ignored by certain females. Lex has a black series, Pinky shoots black porn too, Bangbros "brown bunnies" line has been mainly black on black of late, industry invaders and JoshStone also shoots black porn and of course WCP always has black scenes up their sleeves so the females have ample opportunities to shoot black porn if they wish IMO.
And if you want "evidence" then just look at the resumes of ladies like Teanna Trump, Chanel Heart, Anna Fox etc and then look at Nadia Jay, Anya Ivy, Cassidy Banks and Jezabel's!!...the contrast is rather striking.

Edited by - iwatchusmash on 3/10/2015 8:51:24 PM

 
Zy28
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Posted - Mar 11 2015 : 2:30PM
Yes many of them are. I know new girls Anya Ivy, Nadia Jay, and Tiffany Tailor refuse to work with Black men. And Tiffany Tailor actually did an extremely degrading (even by their standards) ghetto gagger scene.
And looking at their careers they've done worse than Black girls who work with Black talent like Skin Diamond and Teanna Trump.
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Posted - Mar 11 2015 : 5:04PM
How do you know that? I'm not arguing otherwise, but I am curious.
Edited by - misspornUSA on 3/11/2015 5:07:49 PM
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Posted - Mar 11 2015 : 5:09PM
I think it is , the number of non IR scenes among blacks has dropped down dramatically , companies have closed , unless you have statements or as in the case of Anya Ivy a clear unavailability for black men in her agency profile a mere count of their scenes is not even a clue , furthermore Jezebel Vessir was a G/G only performer at first she begun doing B/G only few months ago.
Bottom line we don't know what is offered to them nor what amount , furthermore it is also important who hires you , given the chance every starlet would choose bigger producers and directors over any little company for both visibility and pay out
I'm not even saying you're wrong , I actually don't know that, but there's a lack of informations here
Would you rather shoot a scene with a black girl for say $ 200 over a white one for $ 400?
Would you rather shoot with a black woman for a lesser company with no catering, no costumes and a crappy set over a scene with a white girl with catering , costumes a big crew and a set in a pool?
I mean are they really REFUSING to shoot with black guys or just choosing a better option?
fredgee
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Posted - Mar 11 2015 : 6:47PM
Maybe it feels good or serve some need to believe a Black porn star will not sleep with Black men lol..truth is these women have sex for money, race has nothing to do with it, except they usually leave porn after a year or two so something is driving them away and it is because they are not attracted to white guys..another truth is porn is dead, some studios have hard core customers and might survive another year or two but the industry we use to know is gone and it coincides with when it went all white. Piracy, tube sites are just excuses for dumb business decisions it is a myth like Black porn stars won't have sex with Black men.
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Posted - Mar 11 2015 : 6:47PM
Anya has "IR Only" on her agency page. Tiffany said she only works with white men on camera. And Nadia when asked said she wants to work with white men.
misspornUSA
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Posted - Mar 11 2015 : 6:58PM
^It's a strange strategy. Did Tiffany and Nadia explain their comments?
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jizzyjay
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Posted - Mar 11 2015 : 11:53PM
Any proof, try checking their modeling profile-W/M Only might give you a clue.
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Posted - Mar 12 2015 : 2:29AM
Not a big audience I guess. So it´s mainly because of profit.
Rio_Stud
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Posted - Mar 12 2015 : 2:46AM
That is not true. You really think they go away because they are no attracted to white men? I have seen some of them saying their favorite guys and they are usually white. Like Manuel Ferrara, etc. The reason they go away is because they are not aprecciated. look at Skin Diamond. She is a beutiful girl and she does everything but white girls who don´t even do anal have more twitter followers and awards than her. Usually all the interracial awards go to scenes with white women. They probably get paid less too.
 
IWatchUSmash
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Posted - Mar 12 2015 : 2:55AM
Erm how can leaving money on the table be the "better option"? Teanna Trump and Harley Dean are in the new Shane Deisel joint i just seen today...YET ANOTHER opportunity for black females to do black porn. Just ask yourself...how come both of those young ladies are able to shoot BOTH black porn and IR and yet the likes of Anya, Jezebel and Nadia are staying in the IR lane only? i already listed the vast amount of reputable studios that are still very much shooting black porn so in essence the "lack of opportunities" notion really doesn't hold weight.
So like i said it's fine that they do IR and it may give them bigger checks...but some of these girls are neglecting black porn in the process and it's a trend that seems to be growing by the year amongst certain black women.
IWatchUSmash
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Posted - Mar 12 2015 : 3:05AM
Thanks for the links. If these are really her views it begs the question why her whole career thus far has been vanilla and yet other big black female stars like Chanel Heart, Misty Stone, Skin Diamond etc came into the game and done both IR and Black porn from the jump without delay?
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Posted - Mar 12 2015 : 10:24AM
For better option I meant given the choice , but there's not much black on black porn shooting these days
As for Shane , yeah I noticed and was surprised , he almost doesn't shoot with black girls actually I don't remember any other flick with a black girl from him.
I'm glad he changed his mind both girls are extremely attractive even though my favourite black performer remains Ana Foxxx , just gorgeous a true goddess
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Posted - May 6 2015 : 12:02PM
So i found THIS interview from Dogfart today quite interesting as it features two of the black females (Anya Ivy and Jezebal Vessar) who apparently have a "no black men" policy. What made me laugh was when the guy asks them "so why don't black women work as much as white girls?" and the look on their faces was priceless!! :D . How the hell could they complain about anything when they are closing the door on the black porn genre? Meanwhile the lovely Teanna Trump there has had plenty of work because she has not discriminated, and that's why i have mad respect for her.
Anyway on another note there's a new mixed chick in miami named Jaye Austin that sadly might be going down the same path as Ivy and Jezebal!!..so far it's only white and latin guys she's working with but i guess we'll have to wait and see what transpires over the remainder of the year. Bangbros, Joshstone and industryinvadars are all there if any chick in miami is open to shooting with black men so the opportunity is there.
Edited by - iwatchusmash on 5/6/2015 2:31:36 PM
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Posted - May 6 2015 : 1:00PM
If she wants to last Jezabel almost has to work with Black men the only scenes she has done that went over well are with dogfart. Her personality does not blend well with white guys unless it is a fetish type scene. Anya should probably do more gg and anal her work is becoming redundant.
jizzyjay
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Posted - May 6 2015 : 10:03PM
Who cares? if Black females want to go that route,more power to them.They'll soon find out like Lavish Styles did it don't matter if they're working with Black Males or not.they're not going to get any more bookings.
Edited by - jizzyjay on 5/6/2015 10:04:19 PM
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Posted - May 7 2015 : 9:28AM
I'd like to see a deeper analysis than just opinion. There are a lot of factors influencing how this works, not just racism or money.
Some of the factors I can think of:
1. Population. Black folk make up 12% of the population in America. If we extrapolate an already smaller percentage of girls entering the industry, one out of ten are black or African ancestry.
2. Market Demographics: The majority of porn buyers are white men. Same with the escort business. If prostitution were legal with business numbers analyzed, white men would be the largest consumers of prostitutes. Black women working in prostitution would most likely have a larger percentage of white clients due to economic demographics. I don't see why this is a surprise in the porn industry. If a guy watches porn to fulfill his fantasies and the majority of buyers are white men, then white male fantasies and preferences are going to be the dominant economics of porn. That means white men want to watch other white men fucking black women on average.
Same reason there is still a category of "interracial" porn focusing on a huge-dicked black guy fucking a white woman. There are white men that like to see this and deem it taboo reaching deep down into that dark fantasy place.
If you notice black porn aimed at black males often does not focused on huge dicked black guys because they don't care. They just want to see someone that looks like themselves dicking down chicks to get their fantasy going.
3. Sexual Preferences. It seems easier to find highly attractive white chicks willing to do crazy sexual shit on screen. Probably because there are so many hot white chicks competing for money, they have to do something to stand out.
Whereas a really hot black chick stands out like a neon sign in America. Black people are only 12% of the population. Around half are women, which makes that about 6% of the population. Then reduce that number by the number of hot women out there. You have a rarity known as the hot black woman willing to do porn. This scarcity is even more pronounced in Europe where black populations are even smaller.
If you take into account this scarcity of a hot black woman willing to do porn that is also into really kinky, freaky sex, it's not surprising you don't see as many black women stay in the industry. The things they have to do to earn money, they're not willing to do. They don't have to, they might as well escort or strip to get similar money. They're rare anyhow. Better to target guys with money that specifically like black women for a higher return than hope that a large industry like porn finds a big enough market to make them a ton of money.
Hot kinky black women can make more money targeting specific clients or relationships than in the general porn pool. So why put themselves through the ringer doing tons of gonzo scenes for a lower return?
4. Racism and Ethnocentrism. The preferences of the porn producers plays a roll as well. What they're willing to play. In any entertainment industry be it porn, modeling, or mainstream Hollywood, you only have as much leverage as the money you can pull in moving product. If the majority of porn buyers are white males, then that makes the market for black women white males that want to fuck black women or watch them fuck. That is a smaller market that moves less product, which gives black women less leverage for negotiation.
Some of this situation is comedy gold. A black woman doesn't have a body part she can rely on in negotiations like a black guy with a huge dick. A black guy with a huge dick that can fuck on camera can demand high rates because his competition is so low and his special talent appeals to a larger segment of white men that want see him bang a white chick. No one cares if a black woman fucks a black guy with a huge dick. It's not a fetish. It's assumed that all black women have had a huge dicked black guy and they're used to it. No taboo whatsoever. That's the craziness of racism, not much you can do about it.
There are probably other reasons as well. You can see why hot black women don't last long in the porn industry. I was hoping a girl like Tila Flame or Megan Vaughn would have lasted, but they were in and out quick. Not sure why either left so quickly, but I imagine it was a combination of factors and some of it may have been family related. Black folk can be very conservative. They can receive a lot of pressure from parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts, and friends to stop. Their relations can hammer on them pretty good for doing stuff like fucking on camera or doing sex acts their relations and friends deem demeaning. Same as many porn girls have to deal with, but since there are already fewer black chicks it reduces that number yet again.
I don't see the situation changing any time soon. Porn is a competitive, spirit crushing industry that churns through women like a fat kid eating candy. It takes a certain kind of woman to survive and thrive in it. Even the few women that can handle it on all levels don't last forever. The lack of black women is a reflection of the porn market and the industry is a as whole.
Dat_1_Dude
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 1:19PM
I dont think it's the studios, I think it's the agents that are exploiting misconceptions on the industry to the girls. Anya has hot plenty with BangBros, famous for it's scene ethnic diversity, but it has been all interracial. That even counts the few scenes she shot with that Cuban actor because she did not count that as a black guy. I've noticed new black girls like her, Nadia Jay, Jezebel, etc. who blatantly cut off ALL black males/studios in general. This started with the Latin girls first, the likes of Luna Star, Jasmine Cairo, Diamond Kitty, Isabella De Santos doing all types of creepy looking actors but no black guys, not even darker skin latinos/afro-cubans. Now it is spreading to the black girls. I mean what happened to the days of Jada Fire, Jenna Brooks, Nyomi Banxxx, Carmen Hayes where everyone got along?
And as much as I like the bi-racial girls like Sophia Fiore, Teanna Trump, Cherry Hilson, there are just some times when I need a blackberry cutie shaking that booty but they seem to be falling by the wayside in terms of ebony on ebony mainstream filming.
ghost88
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 12:12AM
You have skin diamond, but most black girls aren't going last long simple as that. They should be getting as much work as possible if anything. Most white girls don't even last long, hot white girls that I can't figure why they don't get much work let alone black girls. I think it has to be the agents who hate black men for some reason. I doubt these black chicks come in thinking they wont do scenes with their race until someone tells them not to.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 11:31AM
Unfortunately it's a trend that doesn't seem to be stopping guys. Anya, Jezebell, Cassidy Banks etc have made their beds but no doubt once their "fanbase" moves on to the next black chick who only does IR they will be found wanting. I hope fans of black porn don't forget these women who practise this type of discrimination.
 
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 12:59PM
Studios will hire Black actors as sales decline. Consumers should not let them get away with it. .
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 2:22PM
I think most porn consumers don't want to see black guys in porn outside of the IR niche. I don't like their style and behavior in movies, Sean Michaels is the only one I can watch scenes from. It's nothing to do with racism either because I'm highly into black girls in the business and ironically I find the same ghetto style attractive in the girls. And many would back me on this judging by the popularity of girls like Skin Diamond and Ana Foxx etc. Maybe black male performers are the ones that have to change instead of the consumers.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 2:59PM
You are saying that black men shouldn't do porn?
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 3:09PM
Actually the "ghetto style" as you call it is produced mostly by white producers , directors and company owners , the black owned companies never pushed on that route , I mostly prefer black produced IR exactly because it isn't themed as such, quite the contrary.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 3:27PM
^^No I'm saying that if they want to be as relevant in all porn markets as the TS wants them to be, they should change their styles. As it stands now, most of them are off putting. It's like watching a rapper have sex with a girl, we don't want to see a thug-wannabe who talks too much in the scene and thinks he's as big a star as the girl he's banging. That's why I mentioned Sean Michaels he should be their role model on what a proper male performer is.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 3:58PM
Have you watched any Blacked.com scenes by any chance? Because you seem to have seen a very selected bunch of IR scenes if that is truly your honest view of black males in the industry.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:16PM
^From what I can see they're full of tattoos and got a look and behavior about them like "Yeah I'm the shit". Not very promising when it comes to getting rid of that stereotype. And I'm not saying every black male performer is like this, just the very vast majority. And that's fine I'm not hating. But don't expect to be accepted by the majority of porn consumers and don't be surprised that things like this happen where even black girls put you on their no-list.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:21PM
^
some have tattoos indeed but some others don't Prince or Jason Brown for example, plus it's a completely different set up , even when they have , Flash Brown doesn't fit your description in any way even with those
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:27PM
This situation is just like the music industry, where did Mary J. Blige go? Anita Baker? Just look at all the singers who sung soul music, where are they? Listen, black porn has NEVER left, just like soul music has never left, it's who's in control, the studio's have stop shooting it, hell i kept it going as long as i could, and still doing it now from my own site, it's just the black females that where in, has left to pursue their own dream or their own site, the ones that are hanging around will get the picture quickly, and do the same, but black on black porn will never die, it's just that black performers will have to produce and shoot it themselves, and depending on who shoots it, actually, it would sell better.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:35PM
I think this could be a case of someone doing something that starts with the letter "T" and ends with "G" to be honest (SMH).
 
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:44PM
^You honestly don't see my point or are you just choosing to be delusional? We can nitpick about performers all we want but it's pretty obvious to anyone who isn't biased that the majority of black males in porn have that sort of hiphop aura about them. And my theory is that outside of the IR genre, people do not want to see these type of performers and this has lead to them being blackballed by some. What's yours? I bet you want to use the racism card but unfortunately for you you can't because of how there are still very popular black GIRLS in the business.
lol calling me a troll when I've been here 4 years longer than you and never been banned.
Edited by - 2bollocks on 5/19/2015 4:46:10 PM
IWatchUSmash
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:58PM
Thanks for your input LT. The thing what is disappointing me is the little black porn that gets made stars like Teanna Trump, Skin Diamond, Anna Foxx, Chanel Heart etc are all happy to work with black men but there's an ever growing list of black women in the game that are turning their backs on black porn and it's only getting worse my friend. Pinky is another who has her own site and is shooting quality black porn. Lex has his series too.
Edited by - iwatchusmash on 5/19/2015 5:05:14 PM
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 5:07PM
Name the guys with the "hip hop" aura then? And then explain to me what exactly is wrong with that anyway?
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 5:09PM
^Re-read my posts above I already explained those questions.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 5:24PM
^^^
There have been black male performers in parody, and in other non IR movies which they do some single IR scenes but it sound like you don't want to see black men in porn which is racist. You just one of those white knight who want to kept the black man down, not everything they do is IR scenes

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Posted - May 19 2015 : 5:31PM
^Now that's what you would call a troll. Knowing full well that I'm very much into black girls in porn no sane person would still use the racism-card. You failed.
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RE: Skin Diamond .. that Sexually Broken scene she did recently was her last ever B/G one..looks like she'll be doing G/G from now on
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 3:05AM
Actually, it's not uncommon for a white man to harbor racist views towards black men while also being sexually attracted to black women. Just sayin'.
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 10:42AM
The numbers don't lie. If porn sales are down yet the industry keeps putting out the same products then it doesn't matter if Black women are turning away from porn. The industry is not listening to the market anyway. They are trying to force a wm agenda and it is not working.
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Posted - May 25 2015 : 2:32PM
How would not shooting black porn benefit them?
SkyHigh
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Posted - May 25 2015 : 9:49PM
Slave owners routinely fucked their woman slaves. You're a racist, man, you hate black men. Own up to it.
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^That's why I mentioned from the beginning that I do watch scenes with Sean Michaels for various reasons. You fail using the race-card because you have no other arguments you PC crybabies. But keep comparing me to slave owners because you can't handle somebody telling you that this issue is the fault of the performers and THEY are the ones who have to change to see change, not the consumers and producers who make their money off of them.
Michaels dresses nicely, is well spoken, doesn't mean mug or generally act like a thug like most black male performers that's why I can watch him in any type of scene and others agree with this. Outside of the IR market, they're simply never going to be as mainstream because of this and they only have themselves to thank for it. I'm tired of explaining it, I think you guys are just playing dumb on purpose because your whole MO is to claim "Waahh racists!". Porn has always had these handful of so called fans who make mountains out of molehills so they can play the racecard.
Edited by - 2bollocks on 5/25/2015 10:16:50 PM
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I'm interested to know what sort of research led you to that conclusion. Where's your data?
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Lol, you're so transparent it's almost funny. You keep telling yourself you aren't a racist because you found a black man that suits your expectations of how they should look, and act, which from your little description, sounds like some old man garbage coming straight from the mouth of a twat like Bill O'Reilly. You keep talking about your race cards, and "thugs" though, but I see you.
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http://www.dogfartbehindthescenes.com/tour/video.php?id=4340
Both Prince and Rico will never worked with black woman that will only do white guys.
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Posted - May 26 2015 : 8:47PM
Fellas. HERE is a prime example of what i mean about the current influx of black/mixed females in the game adopting a "no black man" policy. This one is named "Adrian Maya" and having just done a gangbang with a bunch of white guys at around 6:50 she says without provocation.. "i don't like black guys!!..I'm not attracted to them". Now of course everyone has their personal tastes and that's fine...but her prejudice clearly runs very deep as it's also dictating who she works with in her "work" environment too.
Hopefully after these crass comments this individual won't go crawling to black porn productions when the vanilla scenes eventually dry up as she'd be the biggest fraud in the game if she does.
Edited by - iwatchusmash on 5/26/2015 8:48:18 PM
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