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How do you punish people for being rude or nasty online? Punishing people doesn't help anyway. A lot of the people who were outraged about this online made bullying comments themselves. That is a common thing among these anti bullying campaigners ironically. Edited by - Freja on 12/23/2017 3:07:20 PM
^ That was a reaction trying to protect her, but the pint is there was no intervention by the "authorities" who could have shut down and suspend anybody who was bullying her especially over the days , the bullying begun on December 4 , she committed suicide 2 weeks later
so far Jaxton Wheeler has allegedly been blacklisted by several heavy hitting agents + studios. Sinn Sage is "moving on" to shooting exclusively for her own site Lilly Ford was also outspoken against August so I expect her to fall off the map too The big problem is Jessica Drake who has been backtracking everything, claiming she never intended for her comments to be directed at August. Keisha Grey is one of several performers that are calling Drake out on her excuses. Also, XBIZ has an issue now, as Drake is slated to host the XBIZ awards show and performers are considering boycotting the event if Drake remains the host
After 3 weeks of claims and counter claims, nothing has changed from Capt. Jack's original post... a beautiful young adult star has died and her friends and fans are " devastated ". This thread, for the most part, has been dedicated to honoring August ( Mercedes ) and reeling as a result of the unfortunate circumstances surrounding her death. For the past few years I have made it a point to visit August at her booth ( Jules Jordan, MOFOs,... ) and I won't be able to do that this year. She was warm and engaging and had a great sense of humor and I will miss that at the show this year. I can only imagine what her friends and family have lost. What hopefully will also be missed this year is the the spiteful division that has developed as a result of her passing. I also hope that the senseless and vengeful name calling can be replaced by a mutual understanding that a young and promising life was cut short. It's amazing to me that an industry that claims to be a " family " can do more harm to itself than any insidious outside force ( government, fundamentalists, etc... ). The past few weeks have been hard on those who appreciate the Adult Industry. Shyla, Yuri and August were all taken way too soon. Instead of " boycotting ", " bullying " and other forms of divisiveness perhaps, this should be a time of...let's say, love and understanding. I realize that this may be a simplistic and naive notion but it's got to be better than the malevolent sniping that has run rampant since August's death. On that note, R.I.P. August ( Shyla and Yuri as well ).
^^^People have screencapped the harsh words lobbied at August, I'm not going to re-post them. Search twitter for August or any of the offending performers and you'll find them again. Jessica Drake was a bully and enabled people to be repugnant, classless, and cruel. And most didnt even have the full context of August's PSA. Drake has enabled bullies to be proud the same way DT has brought out the closet racists in America Now, you look on social media and Dahlia Sky is talking about suicidal hypotheticals and Lana Rhoades is being viciously attacked for having plastic surgery. Not saying the issues itself are correlated, but letting one set of bullies go unpunished sets a precedent that anybody can bully, project hate, and so on without consequence and it wouldnt shock me if another tragedy occurred in the distant future Cut the head off the snake and the snake dies----dont let Drake get away with her bullying and it might help deter future problems or at least allow others to feel comfortable with free speech and others to be able to stand by them. This is the same performer who resisted shooting with black guys for nearly 20 years and then attacks a girl for choosing not to work with a studio that doesnt frequently test its' talent. And someone correct me, but I'm positive active gay males are more at risk for HIV than any other type of sexual orientation
^I'm not sure of what role Jessica Drake played in this tragic sequence of events. She did, in fact, make a statement that was reactive to August's initial " warning " statement. What I'm not sure of is how it was a statement made by a " bully ". It appears that you may have not afforded the same " context " consideration to Jessica that you ( rightfully so ) afforded August. Is it your intent to bring justice for August by bringing Jessica Drake down? Please enlighten me on how Jessica's statement was that of a bully that lead others to tear at August. Any clarity on your part would be greatly appreciated.
I don't this particular incident led to August's decision. She had her demons and issues. The social media incident certainly didn't help as she was vulnerable to negative feedback. In retrospect the porn biz probably wasn't the best place for August. You have to be pretty hard mentally to survive it. I just wish she'd decided to walk away from a job where people can be critical of you and your decisions 24x7 on social media. She could have returned home or got a regular job which would have given her space to work through her issues and get her demons more under control. I'm still very sad about August and I remember her in my prayers. God bless you August.
Well stated...I wish the more people had your perspective rather than playing the " blame " game. I know it sounds bad but I hope AEE has a forum this year that will address ALL the issues that led to a sad end to 2017.
Jessica was an instigator, she threw the first stone and the public court agreed with the verdict and they lambasted August. I'm not gonna argue with shill like comments defending a person that played in part of another person's death. She can backtrack all she wants, but she will forever be linked to pushing a person to suicide, and will have to live with it for the rest of her life. I thought performers were supposed to stick together in the public eye? Especially when it comes to working against their will/choice
^Your last sentence was the only one that had any credibility regarding Jessica's role in this unbelievably tragic series of events. She could have taken a moment to see where August was coming from with her warning and not tweet so quickly. Unfortunately, that's one aspect of twitter that is sooooo...wrong. By it's nature, it's reactive. Emotionally charged and equipped with 140 characters, they react without much reflection. For THAT, and only THAT Jessica should have ( and does have ) regrets that she will live with. I have read her initial tweets and I haven't found any " stone like " quality to them nor did I see any call to the masses to rise up and crush August's spirit. However, there were others that did come across in a most malevolent way and THEY should be the focus of your ire. Regarding being a " shill " you might want to take a second look at your 12/27 comments about Jessica and take notice that your problems with her have a history and may have clouded your " context ". As for me, I have no vested interest in this " debate " other than hoping this " blame game " madness stops and August is remembered for her life and not devalued by her tragic death. It truly, is a time for the adult community to " come together " instead of sniping at each other. Outside forces are watching and they can't wait...
Kevin,I already posted in your thread on here and can only hope for you that during difficult days/hours you can find the strength to go on.Having read this below from that blog ,all I can say is what bravery/courage/determination etc you are showing through all this.
To those currently threatening performers for defending Mercedes, let me remind you that you can't threaten me and you can't bully me. I've already lost everything. There is nothing more for you to take. I'm not going anywhere. I will always be here to remind everyone what a colossal soul Mercedes was.
Jist read this. It is very sad. Social media is such a bad idea. It is not good for people to be constantly in touch with the world and for random people to make painful remarks about someone. Hopefully the world is changing and social media will die off in 5 years.
I agree with the second half of this. What's wrong with being constantly in touch with the world?
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Posted - Jan 13 2018 : 7:19AM
Being a public person, regardless of what you do, will obviously trigger a lot of negative comments. The way you cope with it though, that's what makes the difference! And some of these girls and guys can't cope with it at all or who knows what personal struggles they have... every person is different, some are stronger than the others. We can blame social media all we want, but the truth is that it reflects humanity as it is and humanity is far from being perfect to say the least... this business was clearly not for August/Mercedes in my opinion and as we've learnt throughout the years, the porn industry can be a cruel place unfortunately. If you aren't a strong character, it can really get to you... My condolences to you, Kevin... take care. Edited by - DaJoker on 1/13/2018 7:21:48 AM
According to the latest Twitter news, Wheeler and his "Wifey" were forcibly removed from the AVN Expo, by the security team. Under his real name, he has been sending messages on social media to various industry members threatening them and others with physical violence and claiming some weird shit about being some sort of mafioso type who can't be taken down and can have those who oppose him taken out. Ron Jeremy has also been banned from the show due to the ongoing sexual harassment/assault allegations against him and it seems like much of the female side of the industry is lining up with accusations against him. It looks like quite a start to the new year.
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Posted - Jan 23 2018 : 8:47PM
^ Sounds interesting. You have any links to any of this info?
Grace Evangeline posted a bunch of screencaps of PMs from Jaxton Wheeler's - his real name, not his porn name - personal account. I don't know if it was directly to her or to another female performer because she mostly wiped out the names and user pics, but I know she and others in the industry have been having it out with him for weeks now. It was pretty disturbing stuff. Most of it was him ranting about how powerful he is within the Gay/Queer/BDSM side of the industry and that nobody could touch him because he is a big name at Kink and a few other companies. He directly - without any veiled threats - said he would have them hurt or killed because he "knows people" and he's also told other performers that he would gladly hurt them face-to-face. I saw the mess on my phone earlier today, via Twitter, because another performer that I follow retweeted it/liked what was posted when he was being called out as a violent psycho, but I can't seem to find them on her tweets now, when I look at it on my PC. It may be buried in there somewhere. She's currently focused on the Ron Jeremy situation since she's had personal dealings with him.
Tony Rios confirmed via Twitter that RJ has been banned from the expo and awards and is not allowed to be on the premises. It looks like he wasn't invited in the first place, but he's been creeping around the event anyway, so a bunch of female performers reached out to Tony and he laid down the law on Ron. As of 30 mins ago, Wheeler and his wifey are having a social media meltdown and hurling fireballs at AVN, MindGeek, and anyone else that has crossed their eyeballs at them lately.
I hope Kevin Moore is getting any help he may need to cope and has family and friends to watch over him/help him out.I sent Kevin an email via his EA email link ,he might never get it but really wanted him to know that he is in my thoughts.
. New DVD due on March 28. No trailer yet, but if it's similar to Ass Jobs 1, then the only male performer will be KM. Do you think these scenes were shot before or after AA's passing? http://www.evilangelvideo.com/video/5928/ass-jobs-2/
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Posted - Jan 26 2018 : 9:42PM
I wonder if it was just these girls wearing these t-shirts in memory of August or if there are even more people at AEE wearing these: [Tweet is no longer available]
They were given out. A LOT of people with them on and some even had their own custom August shirts and hats. I was able to grab both of them.
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Posted - Jan 27 2018 : 11:13AM
The booth tribute to her was cool. Making the girls signing at your booth pretend to be sad for a photo op feels really cheap. This is brutal. Sorry, but there's not a single sincere expression on any face in this picture.
^ To me, Tori Black seems like the only one with the genuine expression.
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Posted - Jan 27 2018 : 11:48PM
Don't want to cause any major debate here... but does anyone else find it hard/avoid watching her videos now? She was so pretty and fun...she was my go to girl and all I can imagine is "pain" she must have felt.
To me, if a porn performer dies, it depends on the circumstances. If I knew a woman had taken her own life, I could never watch a scene.
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Posted - Jan 28 2018 : 9:03AM
This was way too harsh on my part - the photo pissed me off, but Greg Lansky and Kevin Moore did it right at the award show last night. All class, kudos to them, and all apologies.
I too was able to get a shirt at the Evil booth one day and actually got to speak briefly with Kevin a couple of times last night. Greg Lansky calling him up on stage was total class on his part and I see on twitter the speech Kevin delivered was posted.
I edited the original post so I edited this one as well since it was quoted here. Totally agree not the place for such a post. Edited by - bono-ONE on 2/12/2018 12:03:39 PM
I haven't posted in a long while so I had no idea that she had passed, it was only when I was reading an article about the ongoing Donald Trump/Stormy Daniels saga that I noticed a link to a story about changes in the adult industry regarding women and that five adult stars had recently passed away. Although the article was mainly about August but I think the families of Yurizan, Shyla, Olivia and Olivia deserve our deepest condolences as well and I think that everyone on here will echo that sentiment. This was such tragic and desperately sad news to read. I'm not sure about the circumstances regarding the deaths of Shyla, Yurizan and the two Olivia's as the article was mainly about August and what I read made my fucking blood boil. What is so screwed up in someone's life that they think they have the right to abuse, troll and de-humanise someone else to such an extent that they feel the only way out is to take their own life? It's despicable. These faceless cowards who hide behind a PC screen have no fucking clue about the devastation they cause, the families they ruin and make me sick to my stomach. Do they think that just because she was a porn star, she didn't have the same range of feeling and emotion that every other human being has? She did because she was a human being and not only that she was someone's wife, someone's daughter and someone's mother. I know some people say 'just ignore them' and that may be easy if it's just one but when it's coming from every angle, it's not so easy. I really do hope that whoever these trolls are, and they know they are, are now sat in their basements, in front of their PC screens feeling fucking ashamed of themselves, but somehow I very much doubt that they are. RIP beautiful ladies, gone way too soon.
^ It's those fucking murder meds that tend to be the key factor in these types of things(see Kelly Brogan). Unfortunately I presume that MANY female porn starts are on those anti-depressants. It's such a fucked story. Ironically I'm one of those pro-integration people who would like to see men from the boy/boy industry be the standard male porn stars one day. Obviously testing would play a default part. It won't be tomorrow though and boundaries are boundaries. The only issue one might have is the hey ladies tweet in regards to performing with gay performers(some women don't have a problem with that at all). Other then that her wishes are her wishes.
Exactly. It sounds very sensational to me. Doesn't put Kevin Moore in a good light at all?! (could you call it libel?) And now we supposed to be waiting over 2 months for the podcast?? Update: here's a bit more about the upcoming podcast link to Rolling Stones article Edited by - eigild26 on 10/30/2018 1:48:30 PM Edited by - eigild26 on 10/30/2018 1:49:17 PM
It's coming up for the 1 yr anniversary of the very sad loss of August. Are there any events or fundraising lined up to mark the event? August was such a beautiful and caring woman. RIP August
I will listen with interest. I trust Ronson to handle the subject properly (The Butterfly Effect was excellent), so the sensational elements of the marketing are just that, I think--marketing.