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high_flyin5
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Posted - Dec 9 2017 : 1:38PM
Agreed
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 9 2017 : 4:18PM
I suspected as much. Thanks for taking the time to actually look into it KB. The earlier quote from Gracie May Green in this thread should be taken to heart.
"Is it true?
Is it neccesary?
Is it kind? "
jimbob50
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Posted - Dec 9 2017 : 6:18PM
Keisha is ridiculous-she tore into another actress whose name eludes me because she slept with Keisha's ex boyfriend & somehow he was off-limits. Now she has been tearing into Kendra Sutherland-insulting her facial features & body in horrible terms. There was a veteran porn actress she was also insulting a while back-talking about her cottage cheese ass or something along those lines. She is a bully herself.
Secret Guy
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Posted - Dec 9 2017 : 9:30PM
^ If all that is true, I'm disappointed in her.
 
A_Fan
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 12:47AM
These are my comments in summary after a few more days of thinking...
1 - JD did NOT bully her based on those tweets .Having a passionate opinion, or disagreeing with someone, or saying "you are wrong, your logic is irrational, etc" is not bullying. We gotta be able to disagree with one another. If JD called her a "fat C---" in the tweets, then it can cross into bullying. People need to really understand what bullying is, it is not disagreeing with someone's opinion or saying it is flawed.
2 - Mr Cyanide, that is bullying and a textbook case that could be worthy of charges in some jurisdictions
3 - we don't know if or what she was subject to in emails, texts, etc (which could have been much worse or in larger number that the tweets). Texts en masse saying "you will never work with us again, never work in this industry, etc" are bullying and could have been a factor here, we will never know the extent of the bullying
4 - Admit it or not, the gay side of the industry has had a history of shaky testing, a lot of HIV cases, openly HIV performers filmed with one another, and so forth. It is NOT homophobic for a performer to say she won't work with people who have worked in the gay side of the business. That to me is a business decision, a body decision, not saying "I don't like them gay people".
I am a man who has dated trans women before, does that mean if I say to someone who works bareback Trans Porn in Brazil "I won't have sex with you", does that make me a bigot? I don't think so. her decision was twisted and destroyed by an agenda
That being said, the gay side of the industry need to continue t to clean itself up as far as HIV and Hep C and just are bombarding people if they won't work with them. Do they have to pass tests, yah! Does that mean they should be treated as equals in the straight industry, YES!. But if one speciflc performer makes a decision for herself, whether it is paranoia or flawed or legitimate, she should be able to do that freely. Right? But you have LGBT peformers running along like sheep as if this is some crusade to destroy. In fact "Crossing over" is becoming less and less of a thing. Plenty of men in the business have done both and are cool, more and more prominent females are doing TS Work (our reigning POTY did one recently). So, I think they need to dial it down and keep educating , working together, and cleaning up their own back yard as far as testing .
As for Lockwood... he spent years denying he liked men, trans, cock, etc.... very aggressively... now that he is out that does not make him some figure worthy of listening to when it comes to fighting homophobia.

Edited by - a_fan on 12/10/2017 12:49:47 AM

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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 4:59AM
Is it publicly announced how she committed suicide?
eigild26
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 5:13AM
Yes AVN article
TheWatcher All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 6:01AM
I agree with that.
TheWatcher All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 6:03AM
I agree with that.
It looks for me, that her Suicide leaves an impact in The Porn industry.
Hope thats something changes after that tragedy.
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 6:05AM
true , but when someone is surrounded and heavily criticized by many none of which bothered to talk to her directly , well that is bullying , the same way as if I go on the internet disagreeing with you because you constantly use the N word , you don't , I know you don't those interacting with you know , the moderators here know or would contact you to make sure you don't and yet basically everybody else who don't know you, don't talk to you, don't debate with you, know nothing about you is flooding the internet with comments against you, aggressive comments passing from a word to attaching you to the white suprematicism.
would you still say it's just a disagreement?
Also consider this, those who knew her also knew she had problems and ,according to some rumors, she already had a failed suicide attempt some time before , if you know anything about her you'd be very careful dealing with her , surely you won't surround her with accusations based on assumptions made from people who heard something from someone who think he knew something.
make no mistake this is what actually happened
Jessica Drake avoided performing with black men for over ten years advocating her freedom of choice, but she wouldn't tolerate August to advocate the very same right she used for years. Furthermore she based her comments over the false assumption that Ames attacked the LGBTQ community, which wasn't she didn't even say anything against them, she only said she won't perform with crossover performers.
If she was mistaken then all you had to do was inform her about the truth or reassure her about the health procedures she feared weren't taken enough .
Instead she's been treated a an homophobic cunt (exact words used) and invited to "take Cyanide pills" again exact words
which is a thing you would NEVER SAY to someone who has attempted suicide before , and even if you don't , you shouldn't for any reason align yourself with someone who did because that would strenghten his position and statement and would encourage him to continue just because he has numbers backing him.
and if you didn't know what was said to her, it's all the more worse , that means you didn't actually read her twitter profile , you don't even know what was said and yet you dare judge knowing nothing?

Edited by - LCF on 12/10/2017 6:18:13 AM

Soapy Suds
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 7:29AM
I am still finding it hard for the news to sink in. I only heard about her death yesterday and thought was a horrible 'joke'.
But it's very true. So sad. She replied to my tweets on a few occasions and always seemed in good spirits.
Only 23. RIP. So sad. And very tragic.
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 10:25AM
Random comment to move past a bunch of posts from people who ............
silentmajority
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 4:36PM
Link to article regarding the "gentleman" who suggested cyanide to August.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/actor-accused-cyberbullying-august-ames-responds-article-1.3689669
Surreyboy
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 5:37PM
You should listen to the Holly Randall interview she did with August. It provides an insight into her upbringing and her struggle with depression. She had some unresolved issues with her family and she had been diagnosed as bipolar and also had multiple personality disorder as does her mother. It is hard to listen to August now that she is gone. Hopefully she is now in a better place away from her demons and the bad experiences she had on earth.
 
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 9:08PM
A couple memories of August. I interviewed her twice and met her a few times at AVN. She always had a smile on her face and I loved her laugh. We talked on the phone each time probably double the interview length, just talking about different stuff.
At AVN, she always greeted me with a smile. A couple years ago, she let me give her a foot massage since she was standing in her heels for hours on end. She was a fabulous woman who never had a bad thing to say.
I'm going to miss her next month.
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 9:41PM
The last time i interacted with August, was when she tweeted the famous "do you feel lucky?" monologue from Dirty Harry. Great taste in films as well. I'll miss seeing her tweets. Great personality. RIP.
Secret Guy
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 9:50PM
My mother had bipolar in the last 3 years of her life, so I understand how a person's personality changes from being happy to suicidal in a matter of minutes. Which is probably the same situation happened with August.
If these trolls on Twitter had knowledge of her mental illness but decided to tweet hateful messages to her anyway, it truly is despicable.
SirJerksAlot
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 11:40PM
Has she ever even done a non-condom scene? Not to my knowledge. Therefore she had absolutely nothing to stand on in this whole situation. I'm still angry and depressed about this. August, you will be missed.
SirJerksAlot
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Posted - Dec 10 2017 : 11:42PM
I've also come to the conclusion that "social media" is a net negative to our already ill society. Glad I never got into it.
Edited by - SirJerksAlot on 12/11/2017 12:02:37 AM
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 12:00AM
^ That guy was criticizing the gay community. He wasn't actually a part of the gay community. It was sarcastic/ironic/I'm not sure what the right word is in this context.
He is evil for saying that about gay people, because it's hardly a reflection on the gay community as a whole that some gay people said horrible things to August (as did some straight people), but I have a feeling that's not why you called him evil.
edit: bolding error
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 12/11/2017 12:01:03 AM
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LetTheWookieWin1981
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 7:21AM
Link was broken.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/gay-porn-actor-jaxton-wheeler-responds-to-claims-he-drove-august-ames-to-suicide/news-story/e5011fb2021fc789991571212ab9dbfb
Simple Simon
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 7:29AM
Simple Simon
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 7:49AM
Yes, but aren't we missing the main point. When there is this gang attacking of an individual through social media, where people basically try to one up each other in insults and threats, you don't know what that individuals mental state actually is.
 
Iramaj1
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 8:13AM
^^Whoever wrote that article needs to fact check. They are trying to make it seem like Katrina Jade, her husband and Jessy Jones were threatening August.
Edited by - iramaj1 on 12/11/2017 8:15:24 AM
Simple Simon
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 8:41AM
^ I won't copy them here, but if that's what was written, they sound like threats of violence to me.
Note, you can actually comment in that article that they have misquoted/misreprented. You don't need to register.
Edited by - Simple Simon on 12/11/2017 9:21:42 AM
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 8:51AM
Even if he claims his tweet was published after her death ,that doesn't change his orevious very aggressive behaviour and wording, that wasn't his first tweet
Starry Eyes
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 10:13AM
^Who are you talking about? Jessy Jones? I mean, tensions run high when a friend is savagely bullied to death.
Edited by - Starry Eyes on 12/11/2017 10:16:15 AM
A_Fan
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 10:49AM
I love this little gem from Mr Cyanide:
"None of my aggression was directed at August"
****
Yea, you asked her to take a cyanide pill, I would say that qualifies as being directed at her.
silentmajority
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 11:12AM
Yes it was very much directed at August and he should be banned from anyone shooting in the future. He is everything that is wrong with social media and I am glad to see he is being shunned accordingly. Seeing as he is "pansexual" he can always hope the bestiality niche picks up though I would not want any animal to endure this man.
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 11:24AM
I was shocked too.
Heavy whats online going on.
Cyberbulling and online harrasment.
Thats very mean atracking an instable and troubled Person.
Why was Twitter not reacting?
Edited by - TheWatcher on 12/11/2017 11:31:34 AM
MrAnarchism
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 11:58AM
The mamamia article is very inaccurate. The comments by Jessy Jones and Katrina Jade were directed at Jaxton Wheeler, the ass who told August to swallow cyanide. The writer needs to get her facts straight.
eigild26
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 11:58AM
Regarding Mr. Wheeler:
I have no empathy at all for his situation. Your words and actions have consequences, even on the internet if that should surprise him. He had a history of being very vile against fellow performers, so it's not like you can give him the benefit of the doubt.
Regarding the article from mammamia:
One of the best so far on the issue, because it highlights how alone August was in her fight against the cyber bullying but also the depression.
The messed up quotes from Katrina Jade etc. are clearly bad research though. I can't remember who they responded to but many of the vile tweets against August got deleted after the news of her suicide got public, so now they stand isolated (my guess). It shouldn't have happened though, it should be easy to research the relationships August had with the mentioned.
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 12:43PM
No, I don't know what Jones did or said , I was talking about Jaxton Wheeler the one who said she should take cyanide
Edited by - LCF on 12/11/2017 12:51:10 PM
 
Arnold The Geek
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 3:43PM
I for one honored August last night by watching several of her scenes before finally cranking one out to her getting a facial. I think it's how she would have wanted us to remember her.
Arnold The Geek
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 4:09PM
Who was savagely bullied to death? If you're talking about August, a few random tweets over the course of a day would hardly be bullying someone to death.
Starry Eyes
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 5:22PM
^^^Thanks for the clarification.
^It was more than a "few random" tweets and the badgering persisted for longer than a day. Check the timelines.
Arnold The Geek
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 6:41PM
I have way more interesting things to do than use Insta Google Tweet Face. But, if an adult commits suicide based on a few tweets over the course of a day or so, the smart money would say that there are deeper issues at work than a few mean tweets.
Starry Eyes
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 6:47PM
^Cool. Don't post about it then if you're uninformed or have "more interesting things to do".
Arnold The Geek
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 7:44PM
^thanks for the advice, but since 99.9 % of the people here, including yourself, are uninformed on the situation, maybe you should cut back yourself.
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Posted - Dec 11 2017 : 9:25PM
^Futile attempt at spinning it. But I was solely discussing the duration of the incident, nothing else, in which your original statement WAS uninformed/erroneous.
I suggested looking at August's timeline for verification and you declined. Citing you had "more interesting things to do".
August had gotten hammered by idiots for a while. So she didn't commit suicide "based on a few tweets over the course of a day or so", like you said.
Some belittling (albeit different) even dates back to December 1, with August mentioning her low self-esteem from insults.
Just let it go.
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^^
Didn't take long for Jenna Jameson (or what's left of her) to come slithering back from obscurity to attack people which seems to be her full time job nowadays.
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Posted - Dec 12 2017 : 12:38AM
Stunned and saddened.
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She seemed happy here.
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Starry Eyes
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^^Depression is a weird thing.
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^
Some people hide. Some wear a mask.
Arnold The Geek
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Thanks for the analysis. I didn't know what I was thinking. It's great that there are so many porn mental health experts posting here. Keep up the good work.
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Bipolar is a weird thing.
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