Yes that is exactly what everybody but you is saying. That the chances of contracting a cross species pathogen is so low as to be unworthy of discussion. That while they do exist they are few and far between and you've more to fear from sex with another human than you do from sex with an animal. There is a sci-fi threat of contracting something we have no defense at all against. That's what it is though, a sci-fi threat that should be taken just a little more seriously than the idea that the Russians are currently designing Mr. Tripps for Randall Flagg.
I think its a sci-fi threat because the number of people that practice bestiality is statistically insignificant. Do you actually think if humans had sex outside the species as much they did with other people there wouldn't be a problem?
I live in a country where animal porn is legal as long as you don't abuse the animal. I guess a dog wouldn't get hard if he doesn't want to fuck the girl.Do you really think a horse would be bothered getting fucked by a human? It probably don't even fell it.
Or we just don't go to Africa fuck monkey's.Give me break. Comparing a child or mentally challenged person to the family dog is insane. Again we don't slaughter children or mentally challenged people for food.Or skin them to make coatsI think its a sci-fi threat because the number of people that practice bestiality is statistically insignificant. Do you actually think if humans had sex outside the species as much they did with other people there wouldn't be a problem?
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It's hard to believe. With the billions of pets around the world. That people (Mostly women with dogs) in a sexually repressed society. Are not closing windows and locking doors and fucking their dogs. How many? Who knows or cares. It's not surprising that people don't come forward to face the shame,and ridicule that would be heaped on them.
There's a bit of a double standard here. An animal not consenting to sex isn't much different from an animal not consenting to be eaten, or used as a beast of burden. Man has used animals any way they wish for thousands of years. I agree, using an animal for no other purpose than to see it suffer is a problem; not because the animal suffers (which is very common in the animal world) but because the person who causes the suffering is likely to cause humans suffering as well. It's the birth of a sociopath. Stephan
The number of people with PETS isn't statically insignificant. Very few pathogens are ONLY sexually transmitted. Most can also be contracted via contact with blood. Many can also be transmitted via contact with saliva, mucus, urine or fecal matter. Now not intentionally but most pet owners have had contact with most of these things atleast occasionally. So while the number of people fucking animals is low (though probably higher than we believe) there is obviously more to it than that.
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 12:49PM
I recently saw a report on the news saying that many pets and their owners shared the same colonies of germs such as those that cause urinary infections and e.coli etc....
I'm wondering whats PC about talking about bestiality. There is simply no reason for laws banning bestiality. There are a lot of perversion. If bestiality porn was made legal It would be very popular. The same with the age of consent laws. If age of consent laws were lowered to 16, You would be seeing "Barely legal 16 yr olds" If it was lowered to 13. You would be seeing "Barely legal 13 yr olds" When it comes to sexual perversions people are hypocritical, relying on people, not knowing they're sitting in a closet jacking off in a sock.
caroline There was a girl did a lot of dog movies. Black hair and a tattoo of a dog on her arm. I think she did some Andy series and Hector. Do you know her name anything about her?
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 3:19PM
oops, sorry. I think it is highly probable it came from some monkey, i don't know what bush meat is, but i never heard of someone getting hiv from ingesting anything.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 3:24PM
you know you're ugly when your dog humps you with it's eyes closed. and by the way that bird flu sure swept the nation killing millions of people....oh wait that never happened, George Bush wrong again.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 3:33PM
I disagree that it would be very popular, it would be a niche item, like sm/bd, tranny, and even gay to a degree. It would be a novelty for a short while, then it would wear off and your friends would just think you were sick or weird if you continued talking about it. There are all sorts of perversions, kiddie porn is legal in certain places in europe, does it make it right? I think not. If you think fucking animals is ok, try this, bring it up at dinner tonight with your wife or girlfriend. I'd love to hear those reactions tomorrow.
I've had that conversation with my girlfriend. She said she'd think about it. Course she was lying through her teeth (I think) cus whenever that woman says she's sure about something it means she's utterly confused and when she says she's thinking it means she's completely certain but she doesn't want to admit it or let you know yet. After seven years I can't tell which.
But having sex with animals is significantly insignificant. As far as I know, you can't get fragile viruses such as HIV from saliva, mucus, urine or fecal matter. You get it from tainted blood. Other than fucking the family pet, there are very few opportunities for live blood transmission from human to animals. Common known diseases (zoonoses) you can get from sex with animals: Brucellosis Campylobacteriosis Cyptosporidiosis E. Coli Ecthyma Contagiosum Q Fever Leptospirosis Listeriosis Psittacosis Salmonellosis Tetanus Tick-borne Diseases Toxoplasmosis Tuberculosis West Nile Virus
Come on dude you got better chance of getting hit by a bus walking your dog than catching a disease from him. lol You know how billions of people have dogs. And your trying to say you know what they're all doing. lol Give it up you have lost. lol
^^^Of course. Its the blood to blood contact. I'm not just talking about getting animal blood in cuts on your skin. A healthy human can usually fight off such attacks because skin automatically goes defense when it breaks. Its when you introduce animal semen or vaginal fluids into the human urethra, rectum or vaginal cavities. The membranes are much thinner do not offer the same protections. Actually those orifices are designed absorb blood.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 27 2008 : 7:43PM
I found this article, and coincidentlly the guys name is Woody. I know ...I know... but it's not me. Alice, I recently had intercourse with a sheep at a friend's house. He is a sheeprancher and one day he was talking about how good it was. He left town for a few days and asked me to feed his animals. I took the chance and gave it a try. The strange thing is that I enjoyed it more than having sex with my girlfriend. When I was a young lad I was molested by a female babysitter. I was wondering if you may think that the earlier incident in my life has affected my sexuality. I liked it so much that I want to do it again, but I am worried that I may contract a STD from the ewe. I have heard that you can. Could you please help me? Sincerely, Woody
Dear Woody, Generally speaking, the STIs (sexually transmitted infections) we associate with person-to-person sexual contact, including HIV, cannot be transmitted through sexual contact between humans and animals because these infections are species-specific. There are a number of infections that are known to cross the species barrier, but these are not the STIs that concern most humans — for more information, check out the archived response to Bestiality. If you remain worried about potential disease risk with any type of sexual activity, follow safer-sex guidelines — such as wearing a condom — in each and every one of your sexual encounters. Aside from infections, here's something else to consider: it's impossible for animals to consent to sex with humans, and these acts are illegal in most places. If animals become the focus of one's sexual attention and activity, it might be time to call a mental health counselor in your area to explore what's on your mind: concerns, motivations, etc. Have you asked yourself why you might want to have sex with non-human animals? Are there other worries besides STIs that prompted you to send in the question? As with other uncommon, taboo, and/or illegal activities, sexual contact with animals might be stimulating for some people because they are secretive, forbidden, and potentially dangerous acts. On the flip side, an animal doesn't "kiss and tell," nor do her or his expectations "get in the way." Some historical background on human-animal relations, along with other reasons why anyone would even horse around this way, can be found, again, in the response to Bestiality. As for you Woody: confusion, fears, mistrust, anger, or anything else you might feel about the sexual abuse you experienced earlier in your life may be reason enough to consider picking up the phone for some assistance, regardless of what behaviors it may or may not be triggering now. (For more on help in this area, see Resources for male survivors of childhood sexual abuse and incest in the Emotional Health archive.) If you are interesting in exploring these issues further, students at Columbia can call Counseling and Psychological Services at x4-2878. If you not at Columbia, consult your school or community directory for help in finding an appropriate health care professional. Alice Related Q&As
I don't know what everyone is doing. I am "assuming" most people would not engage just because there is no biological attraction. Just like I assume most people would not rape a 6 month old. Not for morale reasons but because there is no biological attraction. I do agree that no law would ever prevent some one who really wants to from screwing animals. Assuming its not animal abuse, its their bodies. What a conviction would do is notify others. I think potential human mates/partners have a right to know. Question for those in the sex industry: Do you think you should be told if your costar has sex with animals or is it none of your business? Do you think you should be notified if your costar indulges is risky behavior (sex with HIV positive people, shares needles, condomless escorting, etc) or is it none of your business?
Part of that Alice response makes no sense. Can't get a disease from screwing an animal? If that were the case, you could not get a disease from any animal period. No you won't get herpes but you may get the equivalent of spongiform encephalopathy from gulping bull semen.
The key word here blow is that it's highly unlikely that you will get anything from an animal. Not impossible. You've yet to prove that sex with animals is MORE dangerous than sex with humans. You've not even come close to suggesting in any inteligent way that it is damaging to the animal. You're only defense is that you might maybe be capable of possibly contracting something.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 4:28AM
Shagdog and/or Sean, can you respond to the comparison to having sex with a retarded girl or an underage child? Of course, from some of Shagdog's previous posts I realize he considers the latter not too serious, it's really society's fault for making the kid feel guilty, right?
P.S. lol. Edited by - BlackSix on 3/28/2008 4:30:12 AM
Its highly unlikely because the number of participants is extremely low. I don't buy into the "everybody's" doing it mentality. It would be a more culturally accepted practice if it was. I don't think practicing bestiality is that easy to hide on a massive scale. Here is a simple analogy. What is the likely hood of you being assassinated as a US president? My answer is not very likely if you are not the president. If you are, your chances increase exponentially. I have to prove sex is more dangerous than humans? How about you proving sex outside the species is safe? Wouldn't rather error on the side of caution? No I don't know that having sex with an animal is harmful to animal. Then again seal clubbing is considered humane if you live in certain parts of Canada. As a compassionate society, we tend to look out for those who can not speak for themselves. That's why we can't coax the severely mentally challenged into having sex.
Well, I'm not either of the above posters but I'll tell you what I think. I think the real main reason we don't have sex with kids is because it just weirds us out, disgusts us and offends our sensibilities. The "They can't really be mature enough to give informed consent" thing (While probably true in the vast majority of cases) is just the best excuse we can come up with why we shouldn't do it. I'm not sure a retarded person shouldn't be allowed to have sex. I guess it would depend on the extent of their disability. Obviously, we don't have too many problems chopping animals up and eating them so I think comparing doing anything to an animal to doing the same to a kid or a retarded person is apples and oranges. We obviously don't consider them the same thing in other regards. That's not to say I approve of animal fucking (especially if it injures or kills them). And if I caught somebody trying to fuck my dog, I'd kick their ass. But I'm just saying. I don't think we (humans) see animals as humans who can't consent. They're another species. Now there are many people who believe animals have rights. I'm not gonna get into that debate. But if they should have rights, I'd think one of them would be the right not to be killed and eaten. And how can an elephant consent to performing in a circus? Elephants are generally considered to be pretty intelligent (for animals). Edited by - randomprecision on 3/28/2008 6:19:15 AM
I’ve already answered this twice. We do not treat children or the mentally disabled as animals. It’s ridiculous to compare them to animals. Yes I do blame society for adding shame and humiliation to human’s sex lives, and it should be stopped. Sexuality is in stilled in humans at birth. Society has to add shame and humiliation. BlackSix you don’t have to fuck kids. To allow them to grow and mature to their own sexuality without shame and humiliation. P.S. rotfl
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Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 11:15AM
How could the logic possibly be flawed? Horses aren't!
Isnt it strange, just put "Animal porn" into the question and the thread will explode....?! Banning or prohibiting normal animal sex isnt ok. Cruelty against animals should be punished, of course, and some of the stuff Ive seen is questionable. But if I look at "human" adult porn, I find some questionable things too. I think the strategy of banning the production/sale of animal porn ( in the NL ) will backfire.
@Shagdog: Ha, ha, your name is fitting perfectly here. No, there isnt a higher court. ( In theory: The European Court, but the EU supports this policy and even stricter laws ) I really dont know, if I have seen "your" girl. Ive seen around 50 animal porn movies, but these series dont sound so familiar to me. Edited by - Caroline-NL on 3/28/2008 5:21:35 PM
loL Back in seventies. There was movie called the shaggy dog and the shag hair cut was in style. I had long hair with shag hair cut, so some older guys at work started calling me shaggy dog, then just shagdog. lol So years later when I needed a screen name. I really couldn't think of anything. So I used that. Edited by - Shagdog on 3/28/2008 5:45:15 PM
Well maybe a more liberal court will be in power someday. And it does seem they follow the US Courts. Maybe when a liberal US court over turns some of these laws. They will follow.
Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 11:45PM
