I remember a case a few years back where a stripper got jail time because during a search for another crime a tape of her perfoming bestiality was found and she was then caught having sex with a dog.
"Sophistry" was not a word I hoped to read tonight. To Bob! To licker! To wargamer! I have nothing to add. It would but detract from the artistry that is the thread as it stands.
I hate to think what the offspring would be like, but given that 97 percent of a chimpanzee genome is identical with the human genome, it's hard to rule out the possibility. I'm inclined to think this one would not be a good idea.
OK, I get that. This is similar to the problem I am having answering your necrophilia question. My gut instinct is to be revolted by the idea of anyone doing it, but, in the context that you gave, I cannot find any logical reasons to support that viewpoint. I therefore have to face up to the possibility that my instinct is just personal prejudice. It will take some serious thought to resolve that one, and I just don't have time right now. BTW - I knew the meaning of the word "decedent", no problem.
Thank you for accepting my apology. I can be a dick sometimes.
I raised the "necrophilia" question (rudely at first) to arrive at this problem in the context of our discussion, not to be gruesome. I was trying to push your two criteria to their logical extremes to see what happened.
For the sake of honesty, that possibility has to be faced. However, the other possibility is that your two criteria are necessary, but not always sufficient, to arrive at an ethical result and, therefore, that a legitimate kind of intuition has to be employed as well. * * * [typo]
In connection with the issues of cultural and moral relativism, an interesting book is [ invalid url ]. Edgerton is a professor of anthropology at UCLA. His basic premise is that all societies are sick, but some more than others. The healthier societies are the ones in which the society's values help it sustain itself. In the sicker ones, the society's values lead to its self-destruction. He illustrates this idea through numerous case studies. * * * [typos]
^ and what is and example of an healthier society? an actual one I mean. Also who is the one who can define a society sick? on what basis? I mean real common basis valid for everyone throughout the whole human history sickness recognized as such in any time by everyone in every society
Edgerton's thesis is that a society is "objectively" sick to the extent that it destroys itself through the exercise of its values. That seems like a pretty good measure to me. Your mileage may vary. One of his examples: There was a particular tribe of hunters that placed more value on dogs (for their usefulness in helping to catch prey, BTW, rather than for fucking) than on their women. So they traded their women to another tribe in exchange for that tribe's dogs. Guess what happened to the hunting tribe? * * * [typo] Edited by - bob on 9/19/2007 5:14:18 PM
I am pretty sure,this time, I can feel safe ROFLOL. Hahahaha.
That is called "thought experiment" usually in physics but has wider occurrences. It sounds like this is new to you. Unless you are a teen, I am inclied to believe that you have not had a good liberal arts education.
We just got this strange movie at work called, "Petting," and there's a picture of a girl petting a sheep on the front cover, then a big red WARNING on the back. I don't know WTF it is. It's one of a couple thousand bargain DVDs we got, which are mostly amateur comps. I'm tempted to pay the $6.00 to find out what's on the disc, but I'm too frightened. I highly doubt there's any actual bestiality taking place in the scenes, but I'm afraid to find out.
right next to my house there's a store that sells odds and ends and in the back there is a collection of DVDs, amond them quite a few with titles like MY FAVORITE PET, MAN'S BEST FRIEND and things like that. I saw bestiality once and it was enough. That said I don't think it constitutes any kind of injustice to the animals if they are the ones doing the fucking. I saw a really disgusting post modern art exhibition and this did basically set up a little room in with all kinds of memorabilia about his dog. There were these ridiculous framed photos of happy moments with him and his dog all over the walls and there was a video monitor showing a kind of sitcom where the only two participants were him and his dog. Basically at the end of each episode his dog would mount him and fuck him. The canine was horny as hell and it was hard not to laugh watching this beast pluging away with its big slobbery tongue wagging out.
Theres no stopping this guy as he heads to his local adult store to pick up that bestiality title he promised himself..Great got it now its time to head home to view it.
I think, maybe, popular isn't quite the word. This thread is "popular" in the same way as auto accidents are popular. I think very few of the participants of the thread actually like bestiality or would want to be involved with it. It's a hypothetical. And something that's so twisted you just have to laugh.
About the Celine girl.. there used to be a website featuring a blonde going by the name of Kinky Celine.. she was into doing animals and any other stuff.. there were small movies all over the net from some site called kristympegs or something featuring the word kristy on yellow background.. Anyway.. this kinky celine girl used to chat online and was always asking for volunteers for gangbang movies etc.. as she was also into bdsm she was chatting about doing an abduction, rape and snuff movie.. and asking for volunteers.. However one person was concerned it was real and rang the cops.. at the same time there was an onging investigation into the site owner/s for tax evasion etc.. having never paid any tax.. With the tip about a snuff movie the cops did a raid on the home.. what they found was a messy house full of illegal video tapes being shipped all over the place.. Kinky Celine turned out to be a big fat guy sitting at a computer in his underwear chatting and pretending to be this girl.. had been doing it for years.. and how he got many orders for video business.. True story..
"With the tip about a snuff movie the cops did a raid on the home.. what they found was a messy house full of illegal video tapes being shipped all over the place.. Kinky Celine turned out to be a big fat guy sitting at a computer in his underwear chatting and pretending to be this girl.. had been doing it for years.. and how he got many orders for video business.. True story.." What kind of underwear?
While its most certainly not my fetish I fail to see whats the ruckus about bestiality. Come on, what happens on intensive animal farms to produce the meat we eat is a 10 hex worse. I recently saw an episode of Dirty Jobs on Discovery where Mike Row had to show his arm up a cows butt to feel her uterus to check if she's pregnant. Or had to shove what looked like a very large dildo up a bull's ass so he could electrically stimulate its prostate to produce seemen. After that a women fucking a horse or a dog seems quit benign.
Someone knows a lot about this subject, i guess you've bought a few... I didnt know u could buy films on this subject... - - Some one is watching over you mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 10/3/2007 4:06:40 PM
Hmm, I don't even recall having written that... Oh I see, you originally quoted a large part of my post. Yes, I have seen a number of those movies. They are still legal in this country, and most porn stores in Amsterdam have them for sale or rental. I like to keep track of performers I find especially attractive, including if they do more extreme acts and genres. I find it somehow fascinating to see how far some girls will go, - especially ones that I would have considered 'too hot for this kind of porn' even if it involves acts or genres that I don't like (like scat; for instance, there is a Slovakian girl Tima I knew from German teen-oriented labels and GGG, who also did a lot of scat movies. Now that's a genre I really hate, but I'm still interested in knowing which movies she appeared in). Back before I had my own place I used to watch porn in those video booths where you insert a certain amount of money and you can browse among like 100 video programs which run at the same time. The 100 or so channels usually comprise a selection of all porn genres sold at the local porn stores, so in addition to the mainstream genres you will automatically see bits of the extreme genres as well as you are browsing, including hard S&M, pee and scat, and bestiality. At some point, about 10 years ago, while zapping through the video channels my attention was caught by a girl I recognized in one of the bestiality programs. She was one of the Russian teen models featured regularly in the Dutch Seventeen magazines and videos, under the name Marina (she later moved to the US, working for CumFiesta and Sineplex and others, as 'Pantera'. Anyway, I was perplexed at first the such a hot young girl could be found in a movie like that, got curious and rented the movie. Then I soon found out that a whole bunch of Seventeen models (like ten or more) had done the same thing. From that time I have kept checking new releases out of curiosity whether there were any other performers that I knew and liked from more mainstream genres. Apart from the Seventeen girls, the most surprising finds have been Silvi Anderson (used to work for Private) and one of the cutest Hungarian girls I've seen, Suzy Spark (Private, Rocco, Evasive Angles, Sineplex, some Euro labels).I also find it interesting how in Japan, performers use their regular porn aliases if they do bestiality movies, unlike Euro performers who usually appear anonymously (except for a few 'specialists' like Adilia and Andy Private, who have done almost no mainstream porn). I have seen a few trailers on Japanese websites but never a whole movie. Anyway, I guess it's the same kind of morbid curiosity that draws me to mainstream actresses that have done porn (something I've also posted on), similar to mainstream audiences being interested in scandals involving celebrities. Edited by - eduardo911 on 10/6/2007 9:38:38 PM
Never thought, that this would be one of the most visited and most active threads. And this in an US porn forum. Yes, quite a few normal models have played in animal porn, but if you look at the percentage, this is below 0.01%. But if the sale and distribution of animal porn would be legal in Germany, I think this would be higher. But there is no chance that this will be changed, at the opposite, the sowjet-like european bureaucracy is talking about banning animal porn in the near future. If you want to watch a real masterpiece of animal porn - if it is legal in your area - I recommend "A Summers Day", with Bodil Joensen.
And in the USA The bottom line other than the religious factor. The only other reason for banning animal porn is the yuck factor. I think a big powerful male dog and a beautiful lady makes a very sexy porn movie. Edited by - Shagdog on 10/13/2007 5:03:40 PM
Let's vote on who is the most beautiful girl to have boinked a dog. Gabi does not qualify since she uses dogs only as a dildo. I thought Ramsey did not like bestiality movies. But then again a Dutch is a Duch!!(He is, isn't he?) Perverts of the world, UNITE!! in sacred brotherhood of perversion and depravity.
Such an innocent soul... Gabi does not let a dog mount her and fuck her in that position. Instead she just abuses the animal by making it lie down and using the dog's dick as a hot organic dildo.
Does she also go by "Charlene Hart" or something? Difficult to say. I don't know whether it happened or not. If it did it was very brief. Many of these girls are definitely pretty enough to succeed in manistream porn. There was a girl who appeared in an amateur movie titled "Ivy". I still dig her.
Who fancies a "stable" relationship with this hunk..
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Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 2:22AM
beastiality is wrong and fucking disgusting. and anyone who condones or does it should be lit on fire. the animal naturally doesnt not mate with a human, and you cannot ask the animals consent so therefore it is rape and it is foul. not for any other reasons than just plain common sense.