It's kind of disturbing that you consider fucking an animal (with or without some sign of consent) to be more egregious of an offense than setting someone on fire. However bad fucking an animal may be, the thing will live.
Don't be so hard on Ron Jeremy. He needs love too.I feel your pain.......................................... ...........NOT. LOL, man. I am sure Jerry Falwell feels the same way about "perverts" who watch porn. Edited by - wargamer on 10/25/2007 6:33:45 AM
I disagree. I don't think that Beastiality and kiddie porn are in the same pool, but I don't agree with beastiality being okay. It's not about being 'gross' or taboo, it's the fact that I am not okay with sex where there is technically no consent. Can animals consent? No. Then what makes it okay?
How do feel about everything else animals don't consent too. Did your dog or cat consent to come live with you? Do cows, sheep, pigs, chickens consent to be killed for food. Why should animals have to consent to sex.
Are you allowed to neglect animals? Can animals be made to fight for sport? Are you allowed to tie animals up by their legs and throw them in rivers? According to "Animal Cops", no. Even slaughter houses have rules for the humane treatment of animals. In most jurisdictions, bestiality criminal charged as animal abuse.
A false clams of abuse doesn't make it the truth. Yes animal being made to fight for sport is legal in some parts of the US and around the world. But making hysterical clams that a women sucking a horse cock is abuse is absurd. In a free society it's her right to suck a horse cock if she wants too. And to film it and distribute if she wants too. In a free society you have the right not to watch and not to purchase it. That is all the rights you have.
Who lives in a free society? I looked it up on Wiki for all you horse fuckers out there... Legal: (slurp away) Belgium Cambodia Denmark Finland Germany (animal porn illegal) Mexico Norway Sweden (animal porn illegal) Switzerland Illegal: (varying degrees but you can be convicted) Australia Canada France Ghana (considered homosexuality) India (life, punished worse than rape) Netherlands New Zealand Singapore (life sentence) UK (up to two years in prison >>> used to be life) US (animal porn legal) Zambia
As soon as we get a solid majority of social libertarians on the supreme court. They will strike down these laws. There is nothing in the Constitution that gives the government a right in peoples choices for sex. In fact the Constitution GIVES the people the rights to a free sex life. The government can't just imagine harm where none exist.
The Constitution does not give the states. The right to deny people of their right under the constitution. The bill of rights cover everyone in every state. That has been held up time and time again. The only way a strict constitutionalist can give your rights a way to the states. Is to lie about being a strict constitutionalist
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Mar 24 2008 : 4:43PM
One thing to consider is the fact that the constitution doesn't give us any rights whatsoever. It recognizes the existence of those rights to begin with.
Come on lets make a rational argument please. The fact is there are no rational arguments against Bestiality. Hysterical nonsensical arguments are all you get.
Harming animals is not ok. You should be punished for harming animals. It shouldn't matter if you harmed it by having sex with it or just kicked it across the room.
All the post against Bestiality, no one has made a reasonable argument against it. Not one valid point. Pro-Bestiality people have posed time and time again. Rational valid arguments in favor of Bestiality. I declare Pro-Bestiality people the undisputed WINNERS of this debate. Edited by - Shagdog on 3/24/2008 5:39:37 PM
It's not yet illegal in the Netherlands right now, but it's true that Dutch parliament has recently approved a motion stating the intention to draft a law that will make bestiality as well as production and/or distribution of bestiality porn illegal.
Illegal: (varying degrees but you can be convicted) Australia Canada France Ghana (considered homosexuality) India (life, punished worse than rape) Netherlands New Zealand Singapore (life sentence) UK (up to two years in prison >>> used to be life) US (animal porn legal) Zambia [/quote] yeah in new zealand you never hear bout animal porn cause censorship here will not except it which is good its a bit of a bummer we dont get a massive range like america and stuff
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 24 2008 : 7:07PM
I'm not sure but I think Arnold Ziffel once did a scene, but it got pulled off the shelves. Then there is the famous scene between Mr. Ed and some unknown Hollywood actress from the sixties, I think it was Doattie Fields. Ed was insulted when she asked him, "hey, why the long face." He trotted off the set. BTW, I heard of loving animals, but I'm pretty sure it is a felony in the United States. Don't let Peta catch you.
Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 24 2008 : 7:12PM
Ok , how about the fact that you can catch or transmit certain viruses that can't be cured. Maybe you heard of AIDS, which originated from so guy fucking a monkey. a cute monkey by the way. And I'm not sure but we were always taught it was kinda sick to fuck your dog.
Wrong. Some states don't have any laws against it others it's misdemeanor and some it's a felony. http://www.totse.com/en/law/justice_for_all/beastlaw.html
Come on hollywood keep your argument sane. This is so ridiculous I refuse to discuss it. You had to be taught not to fuck your dog. lol OK lol Edited by - Shagdog on 3/24/2008 8:36:48 PM
Certainly, some forms of bestiality are harmful in which the animal is visibly injured or even killed. I am certain that most people would find this offensive and would agree that perpetrators should be prosecuted. However, when a dog willingly mounts his mistress who gets on all fours for him, I fail to see how this constitutes abuse. I would also argue that the act is fully consensual, especially when no prompting, calling or coaxing has to be given to get the animal to mount. If there is someone who disagrees with this, please, please, please, clarify your position for me. How exactly is this nonconsensual??? Finally, the comment about sex with animals causing AIDS is inaccurate. AIDS was mostly caused by eating improperly prepared bush meat. Another possible source was a human being bitten by a pet primate. There are three or four different strains of AIDS that can be traced back to simian sources. A combination of bush meat consumption and bites from pets is the most likely explanation for the mutation of SIV to HIV.
^^^In other words blood to blood contact. Other than needle sharing, sexual contact is the most effective means of transmission. What can be transmitted by a bite can most definitely be transmitted via penis.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 1:52AM
Good luck with that. Seriously, didn't we already have this exact same conversation with Shagdog making the exact same agruments? He must have short term memory.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 2:07AM
That's because everyone else remembers this debate from last time, and obviously nothing will change your mind, you love to fuck your doggies, good for you.